Is Palin’s national political career over?

posted at 5:45 pm on July 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

The news of Sarah Palin’s resignation as governor came during my show this afternoon, where we spent most of an hour discussing it with the chatizens and my co-host Duane Patterson.  I’ve had a chance to watch the video of her announcement and read through dozens of Twitter messages back and forth attempting to rationalize this, and still, it simply can’t be rationalized on the basis of what Palin said today.  It’s easily the most bizarre resignation I’ve seen, and just about senseless.

The lame-duck explanation was the most incoherent part of the entire statement:

“Once I decided not to run for re-election, I also felt that to embrace the conventional ‘Lame Duck’ status in this particular climate would just be another dose of ‘politics as usual,’ something I campaigned against and will always oppose. It is my duty to always protect our great state. With that in mind, my family and I determined that it is best to make a difference this summer, and I am willing to change things, so that this administration, with its positive agenda, its accomplishments and its successful road to an incredible future, can continue without interruption and with great administrative and legislative success.”

Bear in mind that the election isn’t next month but about 16 months from now, in November 2010.  Using this logic, Palin should never have run for the first term unless she was willing to run for the second, and not run for either if she wasn’t willing (or legally able) to run for a third.  Politicians don’t enter lame-duck status until their successor has already been elected and they’re running out the rest of the term. And all politicians become lame ducks at some point — and none of them quit just to avoid it.

Also, how can Palin quit because she didn’t want to deal with being a lame duck and claim in the same breath that her administration would “continue without interruption”?  She just interrupted it!  If she thinks that being a “lame duck” would hamper her ability to push her agenda in the state’s capital, how does she think that an unelected Sean Parnell is going to get it done?

If it’s her duty to always “protect” Alaska, then that strongly implies not walking away from the responsibility of governing it — a responsibility she sought, and with which her constituents trusted her to execute.  No one leads by quitting.  No one leads by quitting.  Palin’s abandoning  her post, and at least from her own description, doing it because she doesn’t want to deal with the issues of being a “lame duck,” a status all politicians have to handle at some point.

I’ve seen a myriad of excuses on Twitter and e-mail for this bizarre resignation: her legal bills are too high, she’s putting her family first, she doesn’t want to distract Alaskans because of cheap-shot ethics complaints that are distracting everyone.  None of those make any sense.  If the spotlight was too much, then she shouldn’t have run for office in the first place.  If she’s quitting because people are taking potshots at her, then she’s not the kind of political fighter we thought she was.  The legal bills might be a rational reason, but thoroughly insufficient for betraying the people who put her in charge of Alaska — and her memoirs would have paid for her legal bills many times over, had she completed her term.

There’s really no excuse, and what Rich Lowry also calls her “terrible,” “rambling,” and “not at all persuasive” statement showed that.  Unless there was a serious illness or a serious scandal, the resignation on the grounds Palin gave is simply incomprehensible.  She has destroyed her own credibiity in a single day.

I liked Sarah Palin and supported her inclusion on the GOP ticket last fall.  I thought she had more toughness than this.  It’s a big disappointment, and it’s the end of any hope of Palin getting taken seriously as a politician on the national level in the future.

Update (AP): I was going to tuck this into one of my own posts but it fits better here. Quin Hillyer, senior editor at the Spectator, calls the resignation an “appalling dereliction of duty.”

What Sarah Palin did today was get out before the real challenges of the job (whatever challenges there are for such an easy job) really rear their heads. The going got tough in terms of spurious ethics charges against her, and she took off. That’s cowardly. That’s not sign of staying power. It’s a sign of wanting to get out while the getting is good, in order to become a full-time candidate for a presidential race that won’t culminate for 3 1/2 more years. It’s a little too calculating, by half — or more.

I just listened to her speech announcing her decision, and found it singularly unimpressive. “This was a rambling, bombastic, self-centered, ‘poor me’ kind of speech.” That’s how Mike Carey of the Anchorage Daily News just described her speech on Fox News. I agree. He then said it was, darn, I already can’t remember if he said it was “pitiful” or “pathetic,” but it was some word like that. Again, I agree. It was a speech in which she clearly made a bit for a national audience — not a very effective bid, but a transparent one — but didn’t adequately explain to the people of Alaska why she was relinquishing her duty…

Statesmen hang tough. Sarah Palin is cutting and running. ‘Nuff said.


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Sometimes I even miss Alan Colmes.
But then I sober up.

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:22 AM

Never will miss his lack of an answer (answer with a question ALWAYS)

But, I’m not a huge Hannity fan (in case that didn’t show…)

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:23 AM

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:23 AM

Really? You haven’t confirmed…

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:24 AM

Can’t see AP kicking her off… The other day he managed to scold Simon-McTroll for Trig Trooferism (Simon has 1 more chance).

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:22 AM

Simon.
That one I DO know.
Very irritating.

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:24 AM

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:23 AM

I’m really gonna have my eye on you now.

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:26 AM

Sorry…just did…

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:26 AM

Hey, really, all FB friends are welcome!

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:23 AM

FB?
Fred Barnes?

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:26 AM

Simon.
That one I DO know.
Very irritating.

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:24 AM

I can handle trolls, but that sewage should be flushed.

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:26 AM

I’m really gonna have my eye on you now.

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:26 AM

Just watch…bet you can’t handle it!

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:27 AM

I think Ed went through after OR and weeded out a lot of his less than favorites.

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:21 AM

that would explain why there’s no evidence. Wish they’d make announcements, though. They are busy doing blog work. I assume some grunt (sorry, dear or sir) is up all the time attempting to monitor posts. However, it is largely posters who ahve to deal with trolls. Most are relatively harmless IF IGNORED unless inserting dangerous lies or the special vile words. But a few can drive many of us crazy. Or, at least me crazy.

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 4:27 AM

I can handle trolls, but that sewage should be flushed.

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:26 AM

monkei too.

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:28 AM

But, I’m not a huge Hannity fan (in case that didn’t show…)

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:23 AM

Yeah, me either…I listen to Rush at work, then Hannity comes on…more often than not i *click* turn him off…

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:28 AM

Yeah, me either…I listen to Rush at work, then Hannity comes on…more often than not i *click* turn him off…

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:28 AM

Yeah, even though I’m not a religious Rush fan, I like the guy. I don’t get how people can even put Hannity in the same league. Rush is sharp with the humor. I like that.

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:29 AM

Good deal.
But I think I thrive on a little infuriating hogwash.

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:19 AM

.
Go for the “I darn my own socks” ploy and tell her that you like “fluffy things in your hair” ploy. I wish I had thought of those ploys before. Oh well, just don’t go for the nylon stocking ploy. That one surely will tip her off that you are a Lancelot instead of a Lancelou. Just sayin!

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 4:29 AM

^^^Another reason I like reading Ann Coulter (even if I disagree)

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:30 AM

Yeah, me either…I listen to Rush at work, then Hannity comes on…more often than not i *click* turn him off…

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:28 AM

Same here.
I wish WDBO would switch Hannity for Levin. Hannity lets idiots talk for too long until I’M yelling at the radio.
People think I’m nuts.

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:30 AM

i think stranglet got the boot…

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:13 AM

Somebody told me they “heard” that as well. It hasn’t been seen for a long time. But I cannot find the thread where it happened or any witnesses.

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 4:20 AM

Was she the one who banned herself for a couple of days, then started posting again? Then Ed told her since she couldn’t seem to keep her self-ban, he would help her.

I may be thinking of getalife. Whichever it was, it was pretty bizarre,

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on July 5, 2009 at 4:30 AM

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 4:27 AM

Janet Napoleon is watching us as we type.

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:30 AM

I may be thinking of getalife. Whichever it was, it was pretty bizarre,

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on July 5, 2009 at 4:30 AM

getalife

RIP

Getalife actually said a lot milder things than some of the trolls that are still tolerated here.

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:31 AM

Yeah, even though I’m not a religious Rush fan, I like the guy. I don’t get how people can even put Hannity in the same league. Rush is sharp with the humor. I like that.

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:29 AM

yes he is…I’m a 24/7 fan…and when Mark Steyn subs for him…I will kill anyone who comes into my office and interrupts…

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:31 AM

Oh, nobody mentioned this.
Freddy Travelina died yesterday.
Strong conservative.

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:32 AM

FB?
Fred Barnes?

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:26 AM

.
Facebook

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 4:33 AM

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on July 5, 2009 at 4:30 AM

That was when getalife gotabanned. I was there. As I recall, after it happened, I posted something like:

thanks ed

an adult was in charge

all is well

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 4:33 AM

yes he is…I’m a 24/7 fan…and when Mark Steyn subs for him…I will kill anyone who comes into my office and interrupts…

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:31 AM

Mark Steyn is great. He has a lot of fun, too. Sometimes, he gets our of breath from laughing.

I don’t get to listen near as much as I’d like.

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on July 5, 2009 at 4:34 AM

Um yeah…sorry…

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:34 AM

yes he is…I’m a 24/7 fan…and when Mark Steyn subs for him…I will kill anyone who comes into my office and interrupts…

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:31 AM

Everyone loves Steyn.
He sounds like a cross of Tim Curry and Mr. Bentley from the Jeffersons.

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:34 AM

yes he is…I’m a 24/7 fan…and when Mark Steyn subs for him…I will kill anyone who comes into my office and interrupts…

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:31 AM

Now, lest I disappoint Jenfidel for not being a true Washington insider, I have to confess, I anticipate the weekly (bi-weekly???) NRO postings by Goldberg. I know, stone me. I just like his writing style. Educated, funny, social references, a little bit of history. Call me a loser.

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:34 AM

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:34 AM

He sounds f*cking smart…

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:35 AM

.
Facebook

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 4:33 AM

Got it.
I don’t do facebook.
Or twitter.
Too much life, I guess.

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:36 AM

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:34 AM

Yer not a loser…

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:36 AM

He sounds f*cking smart…

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:35 AM

Besides that punk Russell Brand, what Englishman doesn’t?

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:37 AM

Got it.
I don’t do facebook.
Or twitter.
Too much life, I guess.

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:36 AM

I got facebook to talk to my son…i have twitter but don’t know how to use it…BB, upstater HELP ME!!!!

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:37 AM

Janet Napoleon is watching us as we type.

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:30 AM

I know. What do you think I am? An idiot? I send her little love notes every day, like:

Dear Ayatolla Napolitano: Your hub caps are ready.

I sign them: Love, Upstater85.

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 4:37 AM

Janet Napoleon is watching us as we type.

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:30 AM

.
Paranoia for paranoids. The next Book Title release from the DHS. They fear that it is bound to be a best seller on the NYT best yellers list.

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 4:38 AM

Besides that punk Russell Brand, what Englishman doesn’t?

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:37 AM

Gordon Brow, but then again he runs laps around “Deeply Concerned”

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:38 AM

I got facebook to talk to my son…i have twitter but don’t know how to use it…BB, upstater HELP ME!!!!

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:37 AM

I’m not gonna get twitter till after I pass my quals this autumn…

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:39 AM

Frick

Gordon Brownnnnn

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:39 AM

I know. What do you think I am? An idiot? I send her little love notes every day, like:

Dear Ayatolla Napolitano: Your hub caps are ready.

I sign them: Love, Upstater85.

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 4:37 AM

K dudes…you’ve done me in…going to bed.

night to all of you!

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:39 AM

Call me a loser.

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:34 AM

Allahpundit! Upstater85 is looking for you!

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 4:40 AM

I know. What do you think I am? An idiot? I send her little love notes every day, like:

Dear Ayatolla Napolitano: Your hub caps are ready.

I sign them: Love, Upstater85.

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 4:37 AM

Janet couldn’t handle this Panther!

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:40 AM

Got it.
I don’t do facebook.
Or twitter.
Too much life, I guess.

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:36 AM

.
I don’t either. I don’t even have your excuse.

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 4:40 AM

K dudes…you’ve done me in…going to bed.

night to all of you!

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:39 AM

Goodnight. Sleep well.

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:40 AM

Gordon Brow, but then again he runs laps around “Deeply Concerned”

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:38 AM

Sounds more like Tom Daschle to me.
“We’re deeply concerned, Tim.”

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:41 AM

Allahpundit! Upstater85 is looking for you!

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 4:40 AM

Big difference. I only say it once a month…

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:41 AM

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 4:39 AM

Good night. Have a good day tomorrow.

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 4:42 AM

Good night ladyingray. Do you know any Meninblack other that Upstater85?

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 4:42 AM

*than

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 4:43 AM

OK, I think I have to follow the others off to bed. This is fricken late.

Nighty all!

*blows kiss to Janet*

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:43 AM

I only say it once a month…

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:41 AM

Are you on a lunar cycle?

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 4:44 AM

Jeez. It is late. (or early)
Well, as the disciple (Mickey) Thomas wrote in the good book:
Sarah…..Saaaarah…
Storms are brew in in your eyes…..
Sarah…..Saaaaaaaarahhhh
No time is a good time for goodbye

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:45 AM

Upstater85 on July 5, 2009 at 4:43 AM

Good night, young sir. Please take good care of yourself.

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 4:45 AM

good night Upstater85!

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 4:47 AM

Sarah…..Saaaaaaaarahhhh

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 4:45 AM

Thanks! Quick! Everybody! Back on topic so the morning crew never finds out that we’ve been loafing.

The Governor made the stupidest decision made in American politics and has ruined her career.

It was brilliant, the most clever and bold stroke of genius ever seen in politics. Go Sarah!

There. I think that prety much wraps it up.

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 4:52 AM

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 4:52 AM

.
I did not abandon you yet. I just opened RCP to see what they have posted. It is loading very slowly.

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 5:00 AM

I did not abandon you yet. I just opened RCP to see what they have posted. It is loading very slowly.

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 5:00 AM

Clear your cache?

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 5:04 AM

Quite a few Palin articles. Slams & short quips. Only Steyn is truly positive.

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 5:05 AM

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 5:04 AM

.
Okay.

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 5:08 AM

Slams & short quips. Only Steyn is truly positive.

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 5:05 AM

It’s a very unusual move. Most of the MSM don’t like her because they are liberal. Some Republicans don’t like her because they support another candidate. Others simply find her actions so strange they cannot accept them.

It’s sounds stupid, but really only time will tell. If everything works to the best, her favorables will increase dramatically. Then there’s the middle where it will be much like now. The worst case, in which her career really is done. And everything in between. There are simply too many possibilities and actors involved.

For herself and her family, I really do hope she takes at least a little vacation time before she rolls out the next model. Then, she’ll have to test drive it and we will all see how that works out. If she wants, I think she can make a contribution to 2010. We desperately need to put a check on Obama soon.

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 5:14 AM

Well Lox, I am going to call it a night. So, talk to you tomorrow I hope.

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 5:15 AM

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 5:15 AM

Thanks for putting up with me. Do take care of yourself.

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 5:15 AM

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 5:14 AM

.
Roger that. Good night.

Americannodash on July 5, 2009 at 5:18 AM

Anyone above notice how Nan Pelosi has been destroyed? Andres Mitchell was reading her off right away. /sarc

IlikedAUH2O on July 5, 2009 at 7:05 AM

Oh no…I’ve been reading all your late-night wittering with much amusement! (am wide awake — different timezone here).

Fortunata on July 5, 2009 at 7:07 AM

Loxodonta on July 5, 2009 at 4:52 AM

That was really funny.

By the way, like Fortunata, I have also just read your late-night (or early morning?) posts. Amusing, to say the least, and I say that with genuine warmth for the HA people (excluding the trolls, of course) who have become ‘close’ to my heart.

mz.josephine on July 5, 2009 at 7:25 AM

Through unfair and corrupt primary voting the Democrats successfully got McCain the nomination because they all knew they could beat him handily. Now through corrupt media and judicial terrorism they’ve successfully destroyed Palin because they knew there was absolutely no chance to beat her.

And the ignorant republicans [including this author] stand around with their thumbs up their azz spouting old tired traditional political concepts whilst their country is burning down from marxism. The rest of the world has been half right for 50 years… half the American’s are dumber than a box of rocks. Who knew it was the republicans?

Griz on July 4, 2009 at 10:25 AM

That is the truth of the matter all nicely presented. Kudo’s to you.

kanda on July 5, 2009 at 8:06 AM

Palin will be like Andrew Jackson, Margaret Thatcher… and RONALD REAGAN all rolled into one!

Jenfidel on July 4, 2009 at 9:47 PM

Palin will be like Andrew Jackson, Margaret Thatcher, Ronald Reagan… and Calvin Coolidge all rolled into one!

promachus on July 5, 2009 at 8:14 AM

Looks like AP and Ed are going for a record on this thread. I have no actual comment but decided that I’d help out.

jeanie on July 5, 2009 at 8:21 AM

It’s a very unusual move. Most of the MSM don’t like her because they are liberal. Some Republicans don’t like her because they support another candidate. Others simply find her actions so strange they cannot accept them.

Sigh. No, people don’t like Caribou Barbie because she’s an IDIOT. Those who support her are no better. Sorry “Real America” – you lose.

simplesimon on July 5, 2009 at 8:34 AM

This thread has been seriously hijacked

Amadeus on July 5, 2009 at 8:38 AM

“Through unfair and corrupt primary voting the Democrats successfully got McCain the nomination…”

kanda on July 5, 2009 at 8:06 AM

where? when?

let me help you out while you stutter and puff:
this mccain derangement syndrome/palin deification syndrome myth is sourced from a dkos posting in which kos encouraged the netroots to vote for romney in michigan.

mccain won the primary because the “real” conservatives invested themselves in fred thompson for 2/3s of the race and spent the waning third running around like chickens with their heads cut off. mccain and romney were the only credible candidates left, but the “real” conservatives couldn’t decide whether romney was the realest “real conservative”, so the eisenhauer reps got to pick the gop nominee.

mccain won without these imaginary democrat spoilers and without “real” conservatives, yet he was spineless enough to listen to the party and pick a culture war cartoon character like palin to appease your deranged ranks.

you, the deranged palinstinian, destroyed the party and ensured obama’s victory. not democrat conspiracies. not “rinos”. you.

eh on July 5, 2009 at 8:54 AM

3240 comments. Yeah she’s finished. She attracts crowds like Obama attracts flies. The conservative (?) MSM (Morrissey Shaw Moran) is wrong again.

Basilsbest on July 5, 2009 at 9:04 AM

you, the deranged palinstinian, destroyed the party and ensured obama’s victory. not democrat conspiracies. not “rinos”. you.eh on July 5, 2009 at 8:54 AM

Crap. The MSM was totally in the tank for Obama and McCain has no clue how to respond to the banking crisis.

Basilsbest on July 5, 2009 at 9:14 AM

Sigh. No, people don’t like Caribou Barbie simplesimon because she’s he’s an IDIOT.

simplesimon on July 5, 2009 at 8:34 AM

FIFY

Drunken Angry Clown on July 5, 2009 at 9:15 AM

I well remember your labeling of anyone critical of Mormonism as a “gibot.” This also included anyone who did not consider Mormonism to be a Christian faith.

Anyone who sets themselves up to be the arbiter of who is a real christian is a bigot. Being LDS has nothing to do with it.

As for how many Mormons support Romney, the Nevada primary saw Romney get 90% of the Republican primary. Nevada was home to a huge Mormon population. This high number suggests very strongly that Mormons in Nevada voted nearly 100% for Romney. Granted, it’s not proof that Mormons tended to vote for Romney, but it’s a much stronger correlation than was ever found for evangelicals voting against Romney.

Romney got huge support from the LDS community. I see nothing wrong with that because it was a vote FOR Romney and not a vote AGAINST another candidate. Huckabee’s mention of Satan and Christ being brothers was a deliberate attempt to foment distrust among ignorant bigoted evangelicals like himself. He also made the “Christian leader” ad which was another act of fueling bigotry. So much of the support Huckabee sought to generate was through bigotry.

As for myself, I guess I would be classed as evangelical, and not a Romney supporter, but it had to do more with not trusting him as a conservative than his Mormon faith.

That was I was at. I probably felt Romney was the better candidate sooner though.

But pretending being Mormon is so irrelevant to any discussion that no one should being it up is not really plausible.

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on July 5, 2009 at 1:49 AM

I don’t think it is irrelevant to ANY discussion, but here on HA, I have yet to be involved in one where it mattered when discussing Romney’s faith.

Can you give me a scenario where Romney’s faith matters?

csdeven on July 5, 2009 at 9:18 AM

As for the Bible being rife with it, false.
ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on July 5, 2009 at 2:07 AM

The issue of polygamy is not settled in the evangelical community. There are many instances in the old testament that do not forbid it. This is my point. From certain POV’s, there is justification in the bible for polygamy.

csdeven on July 5, 2009 at 9:23 AM

3240 comments. Yeah she’s finished. She attracts crowds like Obama attracts flies. The conservative (?) MSM (Morrissey Shaw Moran) is wrong again.

Basilsbest on July 5, 2009 at 9:04 AM

I’m feeling sorry for Sanford , he goes all out to destroy his family , then JACKSON dies, he tries again, then Palin resigns.

the_nile on July 5, 2009 at 9:24 AM

Oh no…I’ve been reading all your late-night wittering with much amusement! (am wide awake — different timezone here).

Fortunata on July 5, 2009 at 7:07 AM

You shoulda been here at the time…whoa…

This thread has been seriously hijacked

Amadeus on July 5, 2009 at 8:38 AM

Happens all the time…first time I ever made it that late tho…

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 9:31 AM

Now through corrupt media and judicial terrorism they’ve successfully destroyed Palin because they knew there was absolutely no chance to beat her.
kanda on July 5, 2009 at 8:06 AM

If the country was so behind her as you claim, then the media blitz wasn’t working and Sarah had all the support she needed.

So if Sarah is destroyed, she did it to herself. I don’t happen to think she has any short term political life, but she certainly has the credibility to help like minded folks running for office immediately.

I agree with Kruathammer….2016 is the earliest barring some unforeseen event that renders her resignation moot.

csdeven on July 5, 2009 at 9:31 AM

I agree with Kruathammer….2016 is the earliest barring some unforeseen event that renders her resignation moot. csdeven on July 5, 2009 at 9:31 AM

CK is usually right but in this instance he’s wrong. The Obama economy is going to get worse, not better. Even without another terrorist attack people will be fed up with Obama and his media morons by 2012.

Palin is the anti-Obama. She will win in a landslide in 2012.

Basilsbest on July 5, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Aside from the merits or demerits of Palin’s resignation, I must reject on principle the underlying thought process that she should not have run for public office if she could not handle the scrutiny. What this woman has endured (and I am no real staunch supporter of her, by the by) is FAR beyond normal scrutiny of a public official. If her motives were to simply walk away from this nonsense, I say more power to her and her family.

Huckabye-Romney on July 5, 2009 at 9:42 AM

I go celebrate the 4th with family and friends, and the thread goes crazy! This is great. The Liberals, the Beltway Elite from both parties, the Pundits, the MSM, and even our Trolls are all losing their minds. They can’t figure out what Gov. Palin is doing. Conservatives are concerned she has ruined her political career and everybody else is worried that she is just beginning her political career. Classic.

kingsjester on July 5, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 2:55 AM

You thought better of it when Texas Jew was present; but then thought better of that in his absence.

The first thought better was sufficient.

Doesn’t everything boil down to OUSTING Obama’s administration and the DNC Congress?

Regardless of virtues/vices Ron Paul has accumulated in life, I would agree with those who would ask him to focus his Libertarian efforts and supporters to stop SOCIALIST domestic programs. Deny higher taxes; CUT TAXES.

Regardless of perceived strengths/weaknesses Sarah Palin has accumulated in her career, I would agree with those who would support her efforts to stop SOCIALIST domestic programs both as individual citizens AND as a coalition of Constitutional adherents.

There are too many Americans who seek the most comfortable (least uncomfortable) life garnering alliance with others of the same temperament, who brown nose their way through a selfishly righteous life, willing to knife decency at the drop of a hat to curry favor with those they prefer, for the love of power.

It is via domestic programs that Obama’s lot are feeding the Socialist Beast our sweat, blood, flesh and bones.

Stop Socialism.
Support the Constitution in ALLIANCE!

maverick muse on July 5, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Palin is the anti-Obama.

Basilsbest on July 5, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Exactly!

maverick muse on July 5, 2009 at 10:20 AM

csdeven on July 5, 2009 at 9:23 AM

Therein you deny Jesus’ NEW word of life.

Let the dead bury the dead, along with polygamy.

maverick muse on July 5, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Therein you deny Jesus’ NEW word of life.

Let the dead bury the dead, along with polygamy.

maverick muse on July 5, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Yet the OT is looked to for example all the time.

Go figure.

csdeven on July 5, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Therein you deny Jesus’ NEW word of life.

Let the dead bury the dead, along with polygamy.

maverick muse on July 5, 2009 at 10:27 AM

Yet the OT is looked to for example all the time.

Go figure.

csdeven on July 5, 2009 at 10:29 AM

oh no you di’nt!

eh on July 5, 2009 at 10:42 AM

After digesting the multitude of opinions on the resignation over the past two days, I’ll just say this. As discouraging as it was to read the posts saying she killed her national political career, and as much as I didn’t want to hear it, there certainly is validity in that opinion. It warmed my heart and gave me hope to listen to Mark Levin on Friday night hearing his certainty that she is running for POTUS and freeing up her schedule to campaign and fund-raise. It’s another opinion with validity.

With these two equally valid opinions, why are we hearing so much “I’m right, you’re wrong” rhetoric on the blogs? No one knows for sure what she is up to, so all we’re running on is speculation. So let’s cheerfully speculate while respecting differing opinions. To see bombastic and inflammatory attacks on conservative pundits coming in from….conservatives, is sad. Tone it down, breath deep and remember we are all speculating at this point.

I appreciate the true-believers in Sarah. Honestly I’d much rather have belief in a hopeful future for Sarah than pessimism and political suicide talk. But please don’t denigrate and attack those that don’t share your belief: especially fellow conservatives. No one knows exactly what her motives are, or what is going to happen in the future regardless of her motives.

That being said, it would be nice to have a little more optimism from our blog proprietors or maybe stronger disclaimers that their opinions are in fact just opinions and the future for Sarah is yet to be written. Otherwise if you start leveling the statements of, “it’s over,” you’re playing into the MSM’s public opinion shaping strategy against Palin. The meme could build steam and then people may write her off as finished, and hence we have a self-fulfilling prophecy, just as the MSM wants.

alteredbeat on July 5, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Morrissey is no doubt regretting his initial blinkered reaction. Perhaps he will learn to think for himself rather than give us the kind of knee jerk liberal-lite response we get from the likes of AP, Jazz Shaw and Rick Moran.

Basilsbest on July 5, 2009 at 11:00 AM

alteredbeat on July 5, 2009 at 10:48 AM

Here is why Sarah supporters are upbeat:

1)Sarah’s Twitter account has gained well over 10,000 new members since her announcement

2)Team Sarah has announces a stark increase in its membership

3)Pam Pryor of SarahPAC reports an uptick in contributions

4)Conservatives4Palin, a Sarah Palin web site has many more new members

5)HA itself and on this thread alone has many more new members posting

6)the MSM sending Andrea Mitchell and Kate Snow among others to Alaska today; if Sarah’s political career was finished ask yourself what are they doing up there? (and it’s not because of a pending scandal-that has already been disproven by Palin’s lawyer and the FBI)

7)Bill Bennett on State of the Union on CNN appears to be doing a flip-flop on Palin. For the last few months he has been a staunch opponent of hers. Something is up and it’s not the Sarah is disappearing.

technopeasant on July 5, 2009 at 11:53 AM

5)HA itself and on this thread alone has many more new members posting

I don’t know if one can to ‘decide’ to just post.
I’m sure you have to wait ’til OR.

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 11:58 AM

I don’t know if one can to ‘decide’ to just post.
I’m sure you have to wait ’til OR.

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 11:58 AM

He’s probably talking about lurkers or something…ppl who don’t normally post but will read here a lot…

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM

I think I posted earlier but the comment stream is too long to find it

In response to the Headline question:

No

comment 3263?

entagor on July 5, 2009 at 12:30 PM

ladyingray on July 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Well, I was a lurker for months.
Once I tried to post, and it wouldn’t work.
Too lazy to try and figure out why.
Went back to Large Hollywood.
THEN I was reading a thread and you guys were talking about ‘open registration’.
I got in just under the wire.
Less than a half hour later, OR was closed.

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Someone mentioned Romney got votes in Michigan because kos encourgaged dems to vote romney

Romney was extremely popular in Michigan because of how he presented against McCain

McCain was asked about jobs being shipped out of the US. McCain replied those jobs are never coming back.

Romney asked about this replied of course they can come back

This exchange was played on newsradio and it won me over to Romney. I wish I had a tape it was so hearwarming. It made McCain look like an anti American fool. I also heard construction workers, union dems, talking about how great Romney was. Romney got a lot of true crossover votes.

Romney got real votes because he really supported American jobs and he sounded real not fake, friendly, not hostile, and as if he would work towards that goal

Palin comes across the same to those who have a need to listen

entagor on July 5, 2009 at 12:39 PM

On the flip side of Sullivan and MoDo’s schadenfreud, Ace laments the backlash on conservatives who think Palin made a bad move:

And I do think I am taking off the week. You guys only seem to want to talk about sarah palin and furthermore you only want to hear the same thing — she’s running, this is a great move, she’s now perfectly poised for the race, etc.

It’s nonsense. And I hardly need to blog about it, because you all seem to know the words to the song. So you don’t need me as part of the chorus. You can sing the same words well enough without me.

I am really tired of this relentless nonsense and occasional nastiness whenever someone is believed to have departed from the conservativey correct line.

Mr. Joe on July 5, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Crazy girl’s back.
On the Matalin thread.

Lanceman on July 5, 2009 at 1:18 PM

Anyone who sets themselves up to be the arbiter of who is a real christian is a bigot. Being LDS has nothing to do with it.

csdeven on July 5, 2009 at 9:18 AM

I have a problem with labeling people as bigots over differences of opinion. While LDS today claims to be a Christian religion, that’s a big change from its beginning. Mormons put a great deal of store in the first appearance of God the Father and God the Son to Joseph Smith, and in that appearance God tells Joseph Smith not to join any church, because they are all abominations. Obviously, a decision has been made to now claim, “We’re Christians just like you. We just have some different doctrines.” That’s a far cry from calling everyone else abominations.

If Mormons are now just another Christian sect, then God must have changed His opinion of other churches drastically over the past 150 years.

Jude says to “earnestly contend for the faith.” Since Christianity has no concept of jihad, this can only mean to defend the faith against attempts to redefine it. Is that also bigotry?

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on July 5, 2009 at 3:02 PM

Romney got huge support from the LDS community. I see nothing wrong with that because it was a vote FOR Romney and not a vote AGAINST another candidate. Huckabee’s mention of Satan and Christ being brothers was a deliberate attempt to foment distrust among ignorant bigoted evangelicals like himself. He also made the “Christian leader” ad which was another act of fueling bigotry. So much of the support Huckabee sought to generate was through bigotry.

It does seem a little strange that it’s perfectly OK to vote for Romney because he’s Mormon, but not OK to vote against him because he’s Mormon. I would hope that wasn’t the whole reason for either vote.

But pretending being Mormon is so irrelevant to any discussion that no one should being it up is not really plausible.

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on July 5, 2009 at 1:49 AM

I don’t think it is irrelevant to ANY discussion, but here on HA, I have yet to be involved in one where it mattered when discussing Romney’s faith.

Can you give me a scenario where Romney’s faith matters?

csdeven on July 5, 2009 at 9:18 AM

Only if you’re questioning whether someone is arguing for Romney just because he’s Mormon. I’ve noticed a number of his staunchest defenders happen to be Mormon.

Of course, in some cases they’re defending their faith more than they are Romney.

As for Huckabee, he’s always been a populist, and a bit of a demagogue. You’ve mentioned a couple of examples. I remember very clearly when he started attacking Big Business, Big Oil, and others. Huge red flag. We don’t need another Huey Long. “Vote for me. I’ll protect you!”

I’d vote for Romney before Huckabee in a heartbeat.

ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on July 5, 2009 at 3:20 PM

I will say, a non-Mormon myself, that I have trouble understanding how someone could rationally accept Mormonism

The same way people can accept a religion that believes 3 beings exist as one. A virgin can give birth to a baby. A man can part a sea. A man can have a burning bush deliver him tablets with commandments on how to live. The leader of a church that purports to be the vessel of the Lord has to wear a silly pointed hat.

Fed45 on July 5, 2009 at 3:21 PM

Of course, in some cases they’re defending their faith more than they are Romney.

That’s absolutely true, and IMHO, an irrational way to base ones vote. I’m not a big fan of Romney’s. I think he’s squishy on govt funded health care, and weak on any issues other than economic.

Fed45 on July 5, 2009 at 3:23 PM

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