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Audio: Did Palin hint at quitting last month? Plus, a poll!

posted at 9:10 pm on July 3, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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John Ziegler, perhaps Sarah Palin’s most staunch defender, pointed out this excerpt from an interview he did with Palin last month in which he asked her point-blank whether the heat had gotten to be too much. Did she tip her hand? You decide:

“There are some rough days, John, but it’s worth it.”

John says that this shows that the resignation has been planned for weeks. I got the opposite impression from this. Palin sounded defiant, saying that “they can keep taking shots,” but that she would be “in there fighting for Alaska,” as well as “energy independence.” Palin makes the point by comparing her situation to her son’s service in Iraq, and noting that he has it a lot tougher than she does. In fact, John calls her critics “terrorists,” which is over the top, but no one doubts that people tried to intimidate Palin into retreat. In this interview, she all but promises they won’t succeed.

William Amos suggested that we should put up a poll, so here goes. I’ve included some leaner positions to capture more of the nuances of opinion. Have at it!


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Yes, the attacks will continue, but if she is not Governor they won’t be in the form of constant ethics complaints which Sarah and her husband can ill afford to defend her against. And if she backs off for a little while until her children are older they won’t be so damaged by the constant nastiness.

Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 11:09 PM

Agreed, but I’m not sure she’s planning to back off. We’ll see. I was puzzled by her speech.

jazz_piano on July 3, 2009 at 11:13 PM

right4life:

I remember the 80s and there was not even any internet then or cable news like there is now. They made fun of Reagan because he had been a movie star, but they never called his kids retards or whores or whatever.

Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 11:14 PM

Knucklehead on July 3, 2009 at 11:11 PM

The only comparison would be the “dumb” label. That oddly enough, disappeared when he died and they acknowledged the extensive writings of Pres. Reagan, which were for the most part available to them had they been interested.

Cindy Munford on July 3, 2009 at 11:14 PM

jazz_piano:

I was puzzled too.

Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 11:15 PM

walk away from responsibilities and then claim that this was some kind of enormously brave action.
She quit – gave up – failed to meet the oath of office.
And yet….. it is a brilliant ploy to her faithful Paliniacs….

Bradky on July 3, 2009 at 9:59 PM

I dunno…there are some pundits who are hardly Paliniacs who are saying it could be a pretty shrewd move. But then you’re prone to damn Palin no matter what she does, so what do you care? If she stayed in office, “why doesn’t this lump know to leave resign early so she wouldn’t have to put Alaskan taxpayers through the hassle?” That’s how it works.

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:16 PM

Ronald Reagan was never trashed like what we’ve seen done to Sarah Palin and he had a couple of goofball kids that were adults.

You. Are. Wrong.

Knucklehead on July 3, 2009 at 11:11 PM

oh please, he was constantly under investigation by congress…give me a break, and it went back to his days as governor…

East Coast Republicans like Nelson Rockefeller labeled Goldwater an “extremist” for his conservative positions and declared him unfit to hold office. Fellow Republican candidate for Governor George Christopher and California’s liberal Republicans were leveling similar personal attacks on Reagan

get a clue…

link

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:16 PM

who cares what her next move is?? I hope she lives a nice quiet life…coming back into politics would be shameful for her. you can’t trust a quitter….and quitters NEVER win…

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter……Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:17 PM

clnerberg:

You mentioned Palin raising money…I thought about that. They might need to do that to pay her legal bills and speaking fees will help do that.

Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 11:18 PM

lansing quaker:

I did not call the resignation insanity. I said it was the thing that would give her problems. Saying she would not run again, would not have. And it was a resignation, to go into effect in a few weeks.

Do I think that perhaps she thinks time is of the essence and she can not waste any more of it as Governor and has to move onto the next step? Maybe..that might be true. But most people will wander, why now?

Maybe she herself will answer that question in the days and weeks to come. We shall see.

Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 11:13 PM

You had just said “she didn’t have to quit.”

For America, she did.

Was Palin naive? Yes. She was naive in her belief that parties stood for principles.

Now Palin has argued, via her speech today, that principles stand before parties.

She’s late to the game, but she’s the quintessential PUMAs. And anyone sick of Democrats, Republicans, RINOs, and DINOs, should be on her bandwagon and supporting her.

Not saying “How stupid! You could’a been a contendah!

I stand for America. You seem to stand for “viable Republican candidates.”

Principles over parties.

lansing quaker on July 3, 2009 at 11:18 PM

Bradky,

She has taken care of her people. Parnell will take those reigns now. He is ready.

Sarah has a bigger future now.

Sapwolf on July 3, 2009 at 11:18 PM

Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter……Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.Quitter.

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:17 PM

You have got it wrong.

Stand your ground and don’t panic.

Sarah knows what she is doing.

Sapwolf on July 3, 2009 at 11:20 PM

Gawd, can we ever go into histrionics here on HA! Many posters have made good points, even the ones with whom I don’t agree, but doesn’t it make sense to step back a little and wait until we know a little more? IOW, maybe stop the teeth-gnashing and handwringing and pronouncements of doom, doom I tell you (!11!!1), and just go out and enjoy ourselves on this holiday weekend celebrating our nation’s independence?

I note in the above poll that by a huge margin many here still think Sarah still has a political future. Encouraging, that.

TeeDee on July 3, 2009 at 11:22 PM

I remember someone who had to endure far worse…his name was Ronald Reagan, and he never quit…

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Absolutely ridiculous.

You must be young and don’t remember those days.

Also, Sarah has NOT quit. She’s taking the fight up the chain.

Sapwolf on July 3, 2009 at 11:23 PM

1. Only Alaska has an insane ethics law that lets anyone sue any govt official
2. Palin spent 80% of her time in court with ethics laws
3. That’s no way to run a state, and nothing got done for Alaska
4. Palin realized Alaska was hurting by the lawsuits, and she could also do more for the GOP as unelected

battleoflepanto1571 on July 3, 2009 at 11:23 PM

lansing quaker:

Saying she did not have to quit does not mean I thought it was insane. I never said anything of the kind.

And so far as I know Palin has not left the Republican party either. In fact we know who she is because she was on the GOP ticket just a few months ago.

So what does that have to do with anything?

No, my point was that Sarah Palin will have a hard time convincing some people that she could not have accomplished the goal of rallying the base while finishing out her term.

I respect the woman enough to think she has every right to make a decision like this without anyone else’s permission or justification.

Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 11:23 PM

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:17 PM

moron…moron…moron…

you ‘conservatives’ are not.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:23 PM

Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 11:23 PM

I appreciate your concern.

No, really.

lansing quaker on July 3, 2009 at 11:25 PM

Absolutely ridiculous.

You must be young and don’t remember those days.

Also, Sarah has NOT quit. She’s taking the fight up the chain.

Sapwolf on July 3, 2009 at 11:23 PM

you’re an idiot…

here’s reagan himself…

The personal attacks against me during the primary finally became so heavy that the state Republican chairman, Gaylord Parkinson, postulated what he called the Eleventh Commandment: Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican. It’s a rule I followed during that campaign and have ever since

link

and that was from REPUBLICANS…the democrats were far worse…

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:25 PM

And what is this stuff about me only supporting viable candidates lansing quaker? It seems to me that you are putting words in my mouth. I support Palin, always have.

Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 11:26 PM

all this has done is hand the left a huge victory…and you so-called ‘conservatives’ haven’t got a clue…laughable.

how has her quitting advanced conservatism??? tell me.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:27 PM

Absolutely ridiculous.

You must be young and don’t remember those days.

Also, Sarah has NOT quit. She’s taking the fight up the chain.

Sapwolf on July 3, 2009 at 11:23 PM

you’re an idiot…

here’s reagan himself…

The personal attacks against me during the primary finally became so heavy that the state Republican chairman, Gaylord Parkinson, postulated what he called the Eleventh Commandment: Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican. It’s a rule I followed during that campaign and have ever since

link

and that was from REPUBLICANS…the democrats were far worse…

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:25 PM

And? Reagan would have been appalled with what Sarah has had to endure.

BTW, I have to wonder what your definition of “conservative” is

golfballs03 on July 3, 2009 at 11:28 PM

lansing quaker:

I am not a troll, so that concern link was obnoxious. I have been commenting here for a long time. I am not a Democrat. I am not Obama supporter. I voted for McCain/Palin.

and what is more I agree with a lot of what you said. The fact that I do not knee jerk agree with everything you said does not make me a troll.

Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 11:28 PM

right4life:

Speaking of the 11 Commandment, why don’t you follow it yourself?

Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 11:30 PM

As for the “concern troll” definition, I can think of entire blogs and pundits who would fit the bill nicely.

clnurnberg on July 3, 2009 at 11:30 PM

interesting read:

WASILLA, Alaska – Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin abruptly announced Friday she is resigning from office at the end of the month, a shocking move that rattled the Republican party but left open the possibility she would seek a run for the White House in 2012.

Palin, 45, and her staff kept her future plans shrouded in mystery, and it was unclear if the controversial hockey mom would quietly return to private life or begin laying the foundation for a presidential bid.

Palin’s spokesman, David Murrow, said the governor didn’t say anything to him about this being her “political finale.” He said he interpreted Palin’s comment about working outside government as reflecting her current job only.

“She’s looking forward to serving the public outside the governor’s chair,” he said.

And Pam Pryor, a spokeswoman for Palin’s political action committee SarahPAC, said the group continues to accept donations on its Web site, with an uptick in funds after Palin’s announcement.

The announcement caught even current and former Palin advisers by surprise. Former members of the John McCain campaign team, now dispersed across the country, traded perplexed e-mails and phone calls.

But personal pressures have been mounting — scrutiny on her family, legal bills, ethics investigations and a running, public fued with McCain’s camp that has flared up again.

In a hastily arranged news conference at her home in suburban Wasilla, Palin said she will formally step down July 26, and Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell will be inaugurated at the governor’s picnic in Fairbanks. She said she had decided against running for re-election as Alaska’s governor, and believed it was best to leave office even though she had two years left to her term.

“Many just accept that lame duck status, and they hit that road. They draw a paycheck. They kind of milk it. And I’m not going to put Alaskans through that,” she said.

The 2008 vice presidential nominee was seen as a likely presidential contender in 2012 and had proved formidable among the party’s base. But the last week brought a highly critical piece in Vanity Fair magazine, with unnamed campaign aides questioning if Palin was ever really prepared for the presidency. The backbiting continued with follow-up articles recounting the nasty infighting that plagued her failed bid. Her advisers sniped with other Republicans, underscoring the deeply divided GOP looking for its next standard bearer.

Meghan Stapleton, Palin’s personal spokeswoman, shot down speculation that ranged wildly from Palin dropping out of politics altogether to eyeing runs against fellow Alaska Republicans U.S. Rep. Don Young and U.S. Sen. Lisa Murkowski. Palin’s comment about serving outside government refers to the present, she said.

Stapleton, however, said it’s too early to say whether Palin would seek the presidency. In the meantime, the governor will continue to work “toward affecting positive change as a citizen without a title right now,” she said.

“Her vision is what’s best for Alaska, which translates into what’s best for America,” Stapleton said.

Palin’s resignation, timed on the eve of the July 4 holiday when many Americans had already begun a three-day weekend, seemed designed to avoid publicity. She alluded to how she could help change the country and help military members — code that she didn’t think her time on the national stage was over.

One senior Palin adviser, who spoke to the family in recent days, described the governor and her husband as tired of the constant media scrutiny. Nevertheless, the adviser was shocked to hear Palin’s announcement Friday.

A longtime confidant who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations, the adviser counseled the Palins that leaving government was politically unwise, but the governor was resolute.

Though the announcement touched off a flurry of speculation among Democrats and Alaska political bloggers that Palin had been drawn into one of the many criminal investigations that have upended Alaska politics in recent years, the adviser reported seeing no evidence of such an investigation and said if one is under way, then Palin has kept it to herself and it would be yet another surprise to supporters.

Jerry McBeath, a veteran political science professor at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, called the pending resignation a “smart move,” both for Palin and the state.

But political analyst Larry Sabato, in Charlottesville, Va., said Palin’s announcement left many confused. “I think it eliminates her from serious consideration for the presidency in 2012.”

Palin said her family weighed heavily in her decision.

“I polled the most important people in my life, my kids, where the count was unanimous,” she said. “Well, in response to asking, ‘Hey, you want me to make a positive difference and fight for all our children’s future from outside the governor’s office?’ It was four yeses and one ‘Hell, yeah!” And the ‘Hell, yeah’ sealed it.”

Palin’s decision not to seek re-election was a familiar one for a potential presidential candidate. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney chose not to seek another term as he geared up for an unsuccessful 2008 presidential bid. Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty has announced he won’t seek another term, giving him plenty of free time ahead of a potential 2012 bid.

Palin emerged from relative obscurity nearly a year ago when she was tapped as then Republican presidential candidate John McCain’s running mate.

She was a controversial figure from the start, with comedian Tina Fey famously imitating her elaborate updo and folksy “You betcha!” on “Saturday Night Live.”

In the presidential race, Palin became the butt of talk-show jokes and Democratic criticism after news broke that the Republican Party had spent $150,000 or more on a designer wardrobe, accessories and hair and makeup services for her. The high-end spending spree contrasted with the down-to-earth image she sought to craft for herself and became an unwelcome issue for the McCain campaign.

She didn’t leave the limelight once McCain lost the presidency. She recently led a public spat with “Late Show” host David Letterman over a joke he made about one of her daughters being “knocked up” by New York Yankees baseball player Alex Rodriguez during the governor’s recent visit to New York. Palin’s 18-year-old daughter, Bristol, is an unwed, teenage mother. Letterman later apologized for the joke.

Palin also complained that her 14-month-old son, Trig, who was diagnosed with Down’s syndrome, had been “mocked and ridiculed by some mean-spirited adults recently.” She didn’t elaborate.

Fred Malek, a Republican strategist who has advised Palin over the past year, said Palin was “really unhappy with the way her life was going.”

“She felt that the pressures of the job combined with her family obligations and the demands and desires to help other Republican candidates led her to decide not to run again. Once that decision was made, she realized, why not do it now and let the lieutenant governor take over and get a head start on his election,” Malek said.

Palin’s move also prompted speculation among bloggers and critics that the governor was facing a looming political crisis or embarrassment.

“There’s got to be something below the surface that’s about ready to come to the surface that quite potentially she just didn’t want to deal with as governor,” said Andrew Halcro, a Palin critic who lost the 2006 gubernatorial race to her.

There is, for example, a pending public records request from Linda Kellen Biegel, an Anchorage blogger who is seeking e-mails showing an effort by the Palin administration to smear her critics including those filing ethics complaints against the governor. Biegel, whose own ethics complaint was dismissed, also is seeking an investigation into the financial profits to the Palin family from racing sponsors of Palin’s husband, Todd, in the 2,000-mile Iron Dog snowmobile race.

“There may be embarrassing things in there. I don’t know,” Biegel said. “I’m just as baffled as a lot of people.”

Stapleton, Palin’s spokeswoman, dismissed the rumors of damaging news on the horizon.

“No truth whatsoever. Period,” she wrote in an e-mail to The Associated Press. “Just more nonsense from the same people who choose to waste state resources.”

Palin was first elected in 2006 on a populist platform. But her popularity has waned as she became embroiled in partisan politics following her return from the presidential campaign. Her term would have ended in 2010.

Palin expressed frustration with her current role as governor.

“I cannot stand here as your governor and allow the millions of dollars and all that time go to waste just so I can hold the title of governor,” Palin said, referring to the alleged impact of multiple ethics complaints against her, most of which have been dismissed.

Palin remaining as governor is not good for Alaska, given the “political bloodsport” by her critics, Stapleton said. Stepping down is a “fighter’s move,” Stapleton said, essentially Palin stepping around political barriers in her way and pursuing her vision.

Palin’s announcement comes after several recent blows to the Republican party. Ensign, a member of the Christian ministry Promise Keepers, stepped down from the Senate Republican leadership last month after admitting he had an affair for much of last year with a woman on his campaign staff who was married to one of his Senate aides. Ensign later disclosed he had helped the woman’s husband get two jobs during the affair.

A government watchdog group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, wants the Senate ethics committee and the Federal Election Commission to investigate.

Just days after news of Ensign’s affair broke, Sanford admitted an affair with a woman in Argentina. Some lawmakers are now calling for his resignation. Before the admission, Sanford had been missing from the state for five days visiting his lover. He had slipped his security detail, lied to his staff about where he was and failed to transfer power to the lieutenant governor in case of a state emergency.

The party’s troubles seem to have left two prominent 2012 prospects, former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and 2008 presidential hopeful Mitt Romney, unscathed, however.

Palin has the potential to make far more money in the private sector than the $125,000 or so she has been making as governor.

Palin already had a deal with publisher HarperCollins to produce her memoirs, with publication planned for next spring. Terms of the deal have not been disclosed. Six-figure book deals are common for high-profile political figures.

___

ousoonerfan15 on July 3, 2009 at 11:31 PM

Speaking of the 11 Commandment, why don’t you follow it yourself?

Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 11:30 PM

this from someone who supported mccain…right..

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:32 PM

again, how has her quitting advanced conservatism???

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:32 PM

Terrye has been here a long time and is no obamunist.

I do find the link fascinating though. I would call Frum and Brooks “concern trolls” for the GOP.

clnurnberg on July 3, 2009 at 11:32 PM

this is a victory for the left, this is what they want…people like letterman are dancing a jig…

their attacks worked. she’s done.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM

So lansing, is Ed Morrisey a concern troll? He was a lot tougher on Palin than I was.

All I said was that the timing of the resignation would make some people nervous, make them wonder about how serious she is. Of course the more time that passes the less that matters, but nonetheless it was just an observation, not an accusation.

I certainly did not say it was insane. I did not say I preferred viability over principles or anything of the kind.

Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 11:34 PM

clnurnberg:

Thank you. And I am sorry I misspelled your handle earlier. Interesting name.

Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 11:35 PM

right4life:

I supported McCain because he was running against Obama and because I respected him. I still wish he had won. We would be a lot better off.

BTW, how does calling me names advance conservatism?

Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 11:37 PM

I don’t know if it’s interesting but it’s mine.

clnurnberg on July 3, 2009 at 11:38 PM

BTW, how does calling me names advance conservatism?

Terrye on July 3, 2009 at 11:37 PM

you need to re-read that last thread…you went bonkers and called me names, and threatened me, because I said your support of mccain didn’t advance the cause of freedom.

so you lied about me in this thread.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

again, how has her quitting advanced conservatism???

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:32 PM

Her existence advances conservatism. Why do you think she was a target, even within her own party?

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

I voted for McCain over Obama, I wouuld have been happier with Fred or Mitt, but I’d have voted for Biden over Obama, Hillary over Obama, Jesse Jackson over Obama.

clnurnberg on July 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

and we would not have been that much better off with mr. reach-across-the-aisle…cap n trade, vote against tax cuts, mccain-feingold, amnesty…president.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:40 PM

I voted for McCain over Obama, I wouuld have been happier with Fred or Mitt, but I’d have voted for Biden over Obama, Hillary over Obama, Jesse Jackson over Obama.

clnurnberg on July 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

Same here. Can I add Mr. Potatohead to your list?

sherry on July 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM

Her existence advances conservatism. Why do you think she was a target, even within her own party?

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

not any more. now if she is the face of conservatism, then conservatism is a quitter.

and none of you can explain how this action advances conservatism, freedom, or anything else.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM

The personal attacks against me during the primary finally became so heavy that the state Republican chairman, Gaylord Parkinson, postulated what he called the Eleventh Commandment: Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican. It’s a rule I followed during that campaign and have ever since
link

and that was from REPUBLICANS…the democrats were far worse…

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:25 PM

NOTHING like the Palins have been through the past 10 months. Nothing. No comparison.

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM

NOTHING like the Palins have been through the past 10 months. Nothing. No comparison.

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM

oh please give me a break…reagan was charged with wanting to kill gay people because he wasn’t for funding aids research…he was a racist for supporting south africa…please…

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

and none of you can explain how this action advances conservatism, freedom, or anything else.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM

*sigh* OK, she’s left the field so one of your heroes can come in and save the day. Happy now?

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

Same here. Can I add Mr. Potatohead to your list?

sherry on July 3, 2009 at 11:41 PM

Dan Quayle? Why certainly, but you left out the ‘E’.
(Another media slur on that man, but nothing like suggesting that someone’s daughter be a victim of statutory rape in Yankee Stadium.)

clnurnberg on July 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

you went bonkers and called me names,

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:39 PM

Somebody apologize to Sally Pee-pants before she threatens to hold her breath…or something.

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

oh please give me a break…reagan was charged with wanting to kill gay people because he wasn’t for funding aids research…he was a racist for supporting south africa…please…

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

Get real. Reagan never had to deal with the Internet and the 24 hour news cycle. If Reagan ran today, he’d be toast.

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM

even after he’s long dead, they still attack him…

“Yesterday it was reported that Democratic Senate candidate Al Franken called former President Ronald Reagan and anyone who served in his Administration ‘a racist and a sexist.’

“Those of us who served Ronald Reagan and the nation find these outrageous comments to be highly offensive and hateful.

“Al Franken must immediately apologize to the Reagan family and all those who served in the Reagan administration.

“As reported by Tom Curry of MSNBC, Al Franken, in criticizing Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, said: ‘Being a racist and a sexist was a good calling card for the Reagan administration.’

link

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:45 PM

Somebody apologize to Sally Pee-pants before she threatens to hold her breath…or something.

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

No! It’s our best chance.

clnurnberg on July 3, 2009 at 11:45 PM

Get real. Reagan never had to deal with the Internet and the 24 hour news cycle. If Reagan ran today, he’d be toast.

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM

unbelieveable…there was ZERO conservative media to support reagan…this is pathetically stupid.

Reagan would never have been ‘toast’ amazing.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:46 PM

Dan Quayle? Why certainly, but you left out the ‘E’.
(Another media slur on that man, but nothing like suggesting that someone’s daughter be a victim of statutory rape in Yankee Stadium.)

clnurnberg on July 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

Actually, I meant the toy. But I like your version better. Forgot about the “e” incident. And to think that was so controversial back then. How things have changed.

sherry on July 3, 2009 at 11:46 PM

Somebody apologize to Sally Pee-pants before she threatens to hold her breath…or something.

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

go F yourself.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:47 PM

oh please give me a break…reagan was charged with wanting to kill gay people because he wasn’t for funding aids research…he was a racist for supporting south africa…please…

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

People claimed Palin’s baby was NOT her child. They were demanding her medical records. They wanted Gynocological evidence of birth. Not just some quack like Sullivan, MSM people started repeating the meme of Trig actually being her daughters baby.

The same? NOT EVEN CLOSE. What’s sad is, you know it and keep chanting “quitter…quitter..” ever other word. You bring nothing to the discussion, you just chant memes.

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:47 PM

*sigh* OK, she’s left the field so one of your heroes can come in and save the day. Happy now?

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:43 PM

she’s a quitter, a loser. the left wins, again. truth hurts.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:47 PM

Yeah, quoting Linda Biegel, aka Celtic Diva, the one who filed quite a number of those dismissed ethics complaints, is a good thing…

She is the one whose website hosted a webathon for her to raise money in order to file more complaints, and used the picture of Gov Palin and Trig (photoshopped with an image of a radio personality on lil’ Trig’s face) as a prop.

Linda Biegel, who lives on disability payments and her never ending hatred for Sarah Palin, has shown herself as a mooch.

Check out C4P about Celtic Diva/Linda Biegel. There’s quite a few stories there.

Intrepid on July 3, 2009 at 11:48 PM

go F yourself.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:47 PM

Ohhhh. Sally Pee-pants have an accident???

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:48 PM

People claimed Palin’s baby was NOT her child. They were demanding her medical records. They wanted Gynocological evidence of birth. Not just some quack like Sullivan, MSM people started repeating the meme of Trig actually being her daughters baby.

cry me a river…was she called a racist, a sexist, wanting to kill gay people??

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:48 PM

sherry on July 3, 2009 at 11:46 PM

Today’s media would have torn the Quayle children to shreds.
The McCain kids were spared as their father was not as big a crowd magnet.

clnurnberg on July 3, 2009 at 11:48 PM

she’s a quitter, a loser. the left wins, again. truth hurts.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:47 PM

Apparently Palin’s news is too much for you to handle. You may want to consider putting yourself out of your misery.

sherry on July 3, 2009 at 11:48 PM

Ohhhh. Sally Pee-pants have an accident???

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:48 PM

let me guess, you’re as fat as you are stupid…bottom boy.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:49 PM

Apparently Palin’s news is too much for you to handle. You may want to consider putting yourself out of your misery.

sherry on July 3, 2009 at 11:48 PM

I’m having too much fun laughing at you losers who support a quitter…

no wonder conservatism is done…with people like you claiming to be one…

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:50 PM

was she called a racist, a sexist, wanting to kill gay people??

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:48 PM

Yes. Yes. I don’t know.

Go change.

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:51 PM

Right4Life, when has anyone ‘threatened’ you here?

jazz_piano on July 3, 2009 at 11:51 PM

Yes. Yes. I don’t know.

Go change.

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:51 PM

isn’t this your usual time to hang out in the park restrooms?

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:52 PM

…bottom boy.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:49 PM

Ohhhh. Homosexual slurs. I’d expect no less from you Sally Pee-pants. Your mommy lets you stay up this late?

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:53 PM

Right4Life, when has anyone ‘threatened’ you here?

jazz_piano on July 3, 2009 at 11:51 PM

no on this thread…but its happened several times before. mostly when I opposed gay marriage…the ‘tolerant’ ones were not so tolerant..

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:53 PM

Get real. Reagan never had to deal with the Internet and the 24 hour news cycle. If Reagan ran today, he’d be toast.

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:44 PM
unbelieveable…there was ZERO conservative media to support reagan…this is pathetically stupid.

Reagan would never have been ‘toast’ amazing.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:46 PM

Really? What conservative media supported Palin? Rush? Levin? Hannity?

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:53 PM

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:52 PM

I’d guess you’re very close to being banned.

jazz_piano on July 3, 2009 at 11:54 PM

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:53 PM

I’m beginning to feel bad, you are obviously developmentally challenged…

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:54 PM

Really? What conservative media supported Palin? Rush? Levin? Hannity?

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:53 PM

yeah all of them have. thanks for making my point.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM

isn’t this your usual time to hang out in the park restrooms?

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:52 PM

Look. It’s devolved into gay bashing. Tell us, how many gay people do you assault a week?

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM

I’d guess you’re very close to being banned.

jazz_piano on July 3, 2009 at 11:54 PM

why? don’t like any opinion that you disagree with??

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM

you must be in a great deal of pain, such stupidity has to hurt.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:56 PM

I see I’m casting pearls before swine in this thread.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:56 PM

I see I’m casting pearls before swine in this thread.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:56 PM

Actually, I think you may be having a stroke.

sherry on July 3, 2009 at 11:57 PM

no on this thread…but its happened several times before. mostly when I opposed gay marriage…the ‘tolerant’ ones were not so tolerant..

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:53 PM

Imagine that. People weren’t tolerant of your gay bashing.

Gays are people too you know. Tell us, do you stone Gays in Iran?

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:57 PM

portlandon on July 3, 2009 at 11:57 PM

I was right about you. do you have any shirts that are NOT brown??

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:59 PM

why? don’t like any opinion that you disagree with??
right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM

No, it sounds like you and I would agree on most political issues.

I’m just letting you know that I don’t think AP will tolerate the insults in which you reference the mentally disabled, soliciting gay sex, etc.

jazz_piano on July 3, 2009 at 11:59 PM

Really? What conservative media supported Palin? Rush? Levin? Hannity?

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:53 PM
yeah all of them have. thanks for making my point.

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:55 PM

Give me a break. Talk radio doesn’t even out the onslaught elsewhere. The guys I mentioned are the only ones who’ve had the balls to defend her consistently; certainly no one in the GOP establishment was going to do that, and certainly no one else in the media besides talk-show hosts.

Sorry, but Reagan never had to deal with the sorts of attacks the Palins have had directed at them. No way.

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:59 PM

I’m just letting you know that I don’t think AP will tolerate the insults in which you reference the mentally disabled, soliciting gay sex, etc.

jazz_piano on July 3, 2009 at 11:59 PM

so its OK to insult me, but its not OK for me to respond?

right4life on July 4, 2009 at 12:00 AM

I was right about you. do you have any shirts that are NOT brown??

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 11:59 PM

Do you have any underwear that aren’t?

portlandon on July 4, 2009 at 12:01 AM

Sorry, but Reagan never had to deal with the sorts of attacks the Palins have had directed at them. No way.

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:59 PM

there was NO talk radio, or anyone else to defend reagan…only the national review, human events, etc which were fringe media…please.

right4life on July 4, 2009 at 12:01 AM

portlandon on July 4, 2009 at 12:01 AM

I know you wouldn’t have that problem, since you wear depends…

right4life on July 4, 2009 at 12:02 AM

so its OK to insult me, but its not OK for me to respond?

right4life on July 4, 2009 at 12:00 AM

No, I’m just referring to the type of insults you’re using. It’s not my call–I’m just giving you a heads up.

jazz_piano on July 4, 2009 at 12:02 AM

I know you wouldn’t have that problem, since you wear depends…

right4life on July 4, 2009 at 12:02 AM

Do you see where you’ve taken things? Now you making adult diaper jokes. You are not a troll, or a Moby. You have mental problems. I can’t expect to have a discussion with you. It would be wrong to take advantage of you.

I’m sorry right4life. I…didn’t….know….you …were…slow.

portlandon on July 4, 2009 at 12:08 AM

there was NO talk radio, or anyone else to defend reagan…only the national review, human events, etc which were fringe media…please.

right4life on July 4, 2009 at 12:01 AM

But no cable news, at least not in a big way, until later. And no viral Internet garbage.

ddrintn on July 4, 2009 at 12:09 AM

This is Mark Steyn, over that Corner:

With respect to many of the Palinologists below, I think they’re getting way too hepatomantic over the entrails.

As a political move for anything other than the 2010 Senate race, today’s announcement is a disaster. And I’m not sure it’s a plus for the Senate – and, even if it were, the manner and timing suggest it was not a professionally planned event and therefore is unlikely to have any grand strategy behind it.

So Occam’s Razor leaves us with: Who needs this?

In states far from the national spotlight, politics still attracts normal people. You’re a mayor or a state senator or even the governor, but you lead a normal life. The local media are tough on you, but they know you, they live where you live, they’re tough on the real you, not on some caricature cooked up by a malign alliance of late-night comics who’d never heard of you a week earlier and media grandees supposedly on your own side who pronounce you a “cancer”.

Then suddenly you get the call from Washington. You know it’ll mean Secret Service, and speechwriters, and minders vetting your wardrobe. But nobody said it would mean a mainstream network comedy host doing statutory rape gags about your 14-year old daughter. You’ve got a special-needs kid and a son in Iraq and a daughter who’s given you your first grandchild in less than ideal circumstances. That would be enough for most of us. But the special-needs kid and the daughter and most everyone else you love are a national joke, and the PC enforcers are entirely cool with it.

Most of those who sneer at Sarah Palin have no desire to live her life. But why not try to – what’s the word? – “empathize”? If you like Wasilla and hunting and snowmachining and moose stew and politics, is the last worth giving up everything else in the hopes that one day David Letterman and Maureen Dowd might decide Trig and Bristol and the rest are sufficiently non-risible to enable you to prosper in their world? And, putting aside the odds, would you really like to be the person you’d have to turn into under that scenario?

National office will dwindle down to the unhealthily singleminded (Clinton, Obama), the timeserving emirs of Incumbistan (Biden, McCain) and dynastic heirs (Bush). Our loss.

Terrye on July 4, 2009 at 12:30 AM

Politics was never really all that dignified, but it did not reach true freak show levels until recent years. I can not imagine Reagan even living in this political word. The tackiness and the intrusiveness and the circus quality to it were just not part of his world view.

Terrye on July 4, 2009 at 12:34 AM

Terrye on July 4, 2009 at 12:30 AM

I think Steyn is right. I think she just said “screw it”. Can’t blame her. This country’s going to hell anyway.

ddrintn on July 4, 2009 at 12:38 AM

ddrintn:

Who knows? Palin may have a whole other thing planned here.

But the truth is I can’t blame anyone for wanting to get out of that world. Not really.

Terrye on July 4, 2009 at 12:45 AM

quitters NEVER win…

right4life on July 3, 2009 at 10:57 PM

LOL. Mover-oners do, though!

littleguy on July 4, 2009 at 12:46 AM

read an interview on the new republic with the lady who ran Palin’s campaigns for mayor. She was asked if she thought Palin was getting out because of a possible looming scandal coming down. She said heck no! and that Palin was too stuborn to run away from anything like that.

ousoonerfan15 on July 4, 2009 at 1:09 AM

Give me a break. Talk radio doesn’t even out the onslaught elsewhere. The guys I mentioned are the only ones who’ve had the balls to defend her consistently; certainly no one in the GOP establishment was going to do that, and certainly no one else in the media besides talk-show hosts.

Sorry, but Reagan never had to deal with the sorts of attacks the Palins have had directed at them. No way.

ddrintn on July 3, 2009 at 11:59 PM

You are either too young to remember, or weren’t paying attention, or have a bad memory.

I heard him called “Ronnie Raygun” so much that I started to think it was his real name.

I remember the day Hinckley shot him-there were a lot of people walking around my college campus openly cheering, clapping.

He was made fun of in disgusting and hurtful ways by stand-up comics on late-night TV (though NOT Letterman himself to my recollection, but that was a different Letterman back then). I don’t want to repeat some of the things I remember, because it was awful stuff, every bit as bad, and sometimes worse than the stuff said about Palin. And Nancy Reagan was a constant target.

He was invariably portrayed as an stupid, mean, dangerous, out-of touch character in the popular media-check out the music videos or Saturday Night Live telecasts of the time. The kinder ones simply showed him as an amiable idiot.

The news media was no kinder, either. And as others have stated there was no Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, et. al. to present a different view. Some, like Carson may have laid off him because there was still some old-school decency left back then-but there wasn’t really anyone to defend him either, other than a few right-leaning pundits on CNN and PBS (Novak, McLaughlin, etc.).

His younger kids (Ronnie and Patti) and were generally left alone (though Ronnie was often depicted as being gay), mainly because it was widely believed that they basically agreed with the media’s view of their father and his policies.

Sorry, but you need a different tack to defend Palin’s quitting-because anybody who remembers those days clearly ain’t gonna buy what you are selling.

Dreadnought on July 4, 2009 at 1:10 AM

With millions of unemployed and no end in site, the Libs get all ecstatic when prominent Republicans falter or in Palin’s case political enemies cast unsupported aspersions out there for the cackling hens of the MSM to chatter on endlessly about.

The ad hominem aspects are their substitutes for lack of positive results with their 19th Century Marxist ideologies.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 4, 2009 at 1:16 AM

I am really excited about this move. When I first heard she was going to do this, my heart sank. Then when I realized the dirty political players were hanging bogus ethics complaints around her neck that kept her boxed in, I am rejoicing she just found a way to flip them the bird and outmaneuver them. She is doing this on her terms, her rules.

What makes me ever more excited is how she will have an entire army at her command taking this country back. She has a year to organize it, and the 2010 elections are going to be nothing like we have ever seen before in this country. It is going to make 1994 look like a cake walk.

Sarah is going to also inspire people to pay attention at the state level. It has never been more important than now to have HONEST secretary of state office holders. We have to find ways to derail the cheating we know we are going to get from acorn.

Sarah will be able to get people motivated all the way down to the grass roots level. This is the perfect storm.

I am very excited.

karenhasfreedom on July 4, 2009 at 1:20 AM

Dreadnought:

I do remember and it was not the same. I remember the Ronnie Raygun stuff, and I also remember some pretty vicious late night stuff directed at Clinton and his women as far as that is concerned.

But back in those days there were limits, the media and a lot of other people have just ignored those limits and in some really obscene and tacky kind of ways where Palin and her family are concerned.

Terrye on July 4, 2009 at 1:24 AM

I heard him called “Ronnie Raygun” so much that I started to think it was his real name.

…..

Sorry, but you need a different tack to defend Palin’s quitting-because anybody who remembers those days clearly ain’t gonna buy what you are selling.

Dreadnought on July 4, 2009 at 1:10 AM

I was a little kid when Reagan was elected the first time. But, you can’t tell me the environment then was the same as it is now. We have absolutely shitty lefty blogs pumping out their bilge day in and day out now. AND we have state-run media types who use those same lefty blogs as their sources. Sorry, different times now.

I’ll put it like this. An Andrew Sullivan in 1980 would only have been able to get his Trooferism out in a once-weekly column or article. Now, it’s 24/7.

ddrintn on July 4, 2009 at 1:26 AM

ddrintn:

And Andrew Sullivan in 1980 would probably have been sued or something.

Terrye on July 4, 2009 at 1:31 AM

I voted for Reagan twice. It was different back then. There were opinion pieces and news stories that were negative towards him but not anywhere near what it is like today. Back then you wouldn’t have had people like they have on MSNBC. These people are vile and uncivilized compared to the news people of twenty five years ago. The attacks were harsh but not evil. Now they are downright inhuman.

Rose on July 4, 2009 at 1:32 AM

Rose:

This is true. Imagine any journalist in 1984 wanting to talk with Sullivan about Christianists and Palin’s reproductive organs. Nope, it would have been considered ridiculous.

Terrye on July 4, 2009 at 1:38 AM

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