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posted at 10:30 pm on July 2, 2009 by Allahpundit
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“So what’s left to say about the Sanford saga? Call me crazy, but amid all this finger-wagging, am I detecting just a little bit of — gasp — empathy? Is there something about Sanford’s puppyish comportment, not to mention the fact that, unlike many adulterous politicos, he seems to be truly in love with his mistress (or at least truly convinced that he is) that’s making him less a pariah and more a symbol of the male midlife crisis? For all his duplicity and entitlement, are some Americans — particularly men — feeling as much pity as outrage? Consider this small sample:
‘This is a story of loneliness,’ New York Times columnist David Brooks said on ‘Meet The Press’ Sunday. ‘[These guys] get to middle age, and they realize there’s some emotional vacuum in their lives.’
It ‘was about something much deeper than politics,’ wrote Gary Kamiya in Salon. ‘It was awful, but it was real. And painful as it is, in the repressed American sexual landscape, reality is better than artifice.’
And then there was my dad, who told me the day of the Sanford news conference something to the effect that ‘you have no idea how easy it is for men to completely lose their minds because of infatuation with women.’”
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Layingray, why hasn’t the thought crossed your mind that perhaps the beloved Jenny was a bit too prudish, which may have caused Sanford to stray?
Honestly, to you think that if Jenny was a total sex kitten in the bedroom, that Sanford would have been motivated to go all the way to Argentina to find a sexual partner?
Look at her. She seems EXACTLY! like the stereotypical busy American woman driving the SUV all around Charleston, taking the boys to soccer practice, and attending all the local social functions. Perfect wife, right?
Except she may not have been so perfect where it counted most: IN THE BEDROOM!
ericdondero on July 3, 2009 at 8:14 AM
I know, and girls “sluts”
blatantblue on July 3, 2009 at 8:16 AM
Maleness provides the instinct. Power is the aphrodisiac. Morality is the regulator. Gov. Sandford’s regulator, like that of many men who have power, became corrupted, and instinct won. Old story.
Should he be discarded for this, alone? I think not, but his way of handling his crisis is very revealing of just what a self-centered weakling he has become. I wouldn’t trust the guy to run a candy store.
His affair isn’t about “love”, guys. Love is a decision, not a feeling.
Randy
williars on July 3, 2009 at 8:18 AM
He could have divorced her and then moved on…right?
ladyingray on July 3, 2009 at 8:18 AM
Yeah…now lets talk about a double standard…
ladyingray on July 3, 2009 at 8:20 AM
We don’t know anything about Mrs. Sanford; however, we do know that according to what you have written, a woman’s highest function and greatest obligation is in the bedroom. Not in raising boys into good men, not in being a contributing member to the society in which we live, but in meeting some sort of sexual ideal you have. The phrase “sex kitten” is almost unspeakably vulgar, but is also quite revealing.
DrMagnolias on July 3, 2009 at 8:23 AM
Layingray, why hasn’t the thought crossed your mind that perhaps the beloved Jenny was a bit too prudish, which may have caused Sanford to stray?
Honestly, to you think that if Jenny was a total sex kitten in the bedroom, that Sanford would have been motivated to go all the way to Argentina to find a sexual partner?
Ah..er..eric..perhaps some of those “social functions” she’s attending are because HE’S THE GOV.
Secondly, I’d think like most couples that have 4 kids, in those age brackets, it’s kind of hard to pretend you’re at the Playboy Mansion every night, and as for driving the kids to practice (I prefer thinking football, NOT soccer) isn’t that what she’s supposed to do. They’re HIS KIDS TOO.
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 8:25 AM
Maleness provides the instinct. Power is the aphrodisiac. Morality is the regulator. Gov. Sandford’s regulator, like that of many men who have power, became corrupted, and instinct won. Old story.
Should he be discarded for this, alone? I think not, but his way of handling his crisis is very revealing of just what a self-centered weakling he has become. I wouldn’t trust the guy to run a candy store.
His affair isn’t about “love”, guys. Love is a decision, not a feeling.
Randy
williars on July 3, 2009 at 8:18 AM
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the_nile on July 3, 2009 at 8:26 AM
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the_nile on July 3, 2009 at 8:26 AM
I’ve read your posts on a variety of topics on HotAir, and so far, I agree with everything you’ve ever written. :)
DrMagnolias on July 3, 2009 at 8:27 AM
New wedding vows: I promise to love you and be faithful to you, as long as you’re a sex kitten.
LOL..I like it but don’t think it’ll play at weddings.
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 8:28 AM
WOW, thanks DR
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 8:28 AM
yea
I mean, I agree with some stuff eric says, but I mean
They are his kids too. Men who help out with that stuff are more likely to get laid than men who leave their wives to all of that work
blatantblue on July 3, 2009 at 8:29 AM
So David Brooks is flat out blaming Jenny Sanford with the old “If she were keeping him happy at home…” canard.
I’ve never cared for Brooks. If I were his wife, I’d be feeling pretty insecure.
brobin on July 3, 2009 at 8:32 AM
Look, it’ll be 36 years in October for my wife and I. We’ve spent 35 of those years taking care of relatives. Guess what, when you’re newly married you think you’re owed a few nights, by your partner, that rival a porn movie. Guess what, that doesn’t happen in real life. Even IF you find someone more interesting, what makes you think, that person will be any better than what you currently have, once you’re divorced and remarried. If finding the “right one” after the first wife was true, then why do second marriages end in a higher percentage that the first do?
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 8:34 AM
The Alice in Wonderland media
Conservative Republican cheats on wife and suffers public meltdown = Hypocrisy
Liberal Democrat commits serial adultery, is credibly accused of rape and sexual harassment, stonewalls for years –or allows a young girlfriend to drown because of his unspeakable cowardice = Ordinary Course of Business.
The clarions of popular culture have sounded yet again.
horatio on July 3, 2009 at 8:36 AM
I’m, just saying Mark Sanford isn’t as bad as Hitler, and Jenny Sanford isn’t an Ultra-feminist icon or a saint.
Leave them sort out their own troubles.
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 8:36 AM
Exactly
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 8:37 AM
Guys, there are a lot of things a man can do that affect a woman’s desire in the bedroom…do I need to give you all a list?
I never said she was totally blameless…we just don’t know what is the problem.
ladyingray on July 3, 2009 at 8:37 AM
I totally agree.
ladyingray on July 3, 2009 at 8:38 AM
Except Mark Sanford is NOT! a “Conservative Republican.”
Mark Sanford is A LIBERTARIAN REPUBLICAN!
And this is something that hasn’t been talked of yet. Are Conservatives so giddy about Sanford being in trouble, cause they see an opportunity to push a side a troublesome libertarian?
I wonder if Conservatives would be this anxious to throw Sanford to the side of the road, if he was one of their own?
Look at DeMint’s absolutely shameful calling for Sanford to sstep down the other day. I’ve lost all respect for Jim DeMint.
ericdondero on July 3, 2009 at 8:39 AM
Exactly!
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 8:39 AM
helping with housework and kids is probably number one
lol i remember seeing a book at the school bookstore last year
“housewife porn”
it was a bunch of hunks doing dishes, vaccuuming, driving the kids around :p
blatantblue on July 3, 2009 at 8:40 AM
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 8:25 AM
I actually do agree with both y’all on this.
Yes, Sanford despite the fact that he’s a Gov. should share in the household choors. Mow the lawn and such. Even clean up around the house.
That’s the social contract: Male helps his wife, she in-turn is a total sex kitten in the bedroom.
ericdondero on July 3, 2009 at 8:42 AM
I don’t want to argue the finer points of each type of Republican, but I think the problem ANY Republican will have is that as a party, we’re supposed to be the one with ethics and morals. So that leaves us more wide open to criticism when one of us are caught doing something we shouldn’t. The media being the lefty’s that the are will cry out for Republicans to “cut off their head” or be judged hypocrites.
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 8:43 AM
If you see that book again, get me a copy. :p I’m good for it.
ladyingray on July 3, 2009 at 8:44 AM
LOLOL…I’m SAVING this one to show my wife..LOLLOL,….Now if it only worked that way..LOLOL
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 8:44 AM
Er..ah…at school…er ah..porn??
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 8:46 AM
Helping around the house and with the kids is a must, but the number one thing a man has to do is respect his wife…and I mean 100% R-E-S-P-E-C-T…if a woman doesn’t feel respected and valued as a person then she isn’t going to want to be a sex kitten.
ladyingray on July 3, 2009 at 8:47 AM
So many of you here are making the mistake of judging Sanford by Conservative standards.
I’m gonna move close to my computer screen and scream this at the top of my lungs.
MARK SANFORD IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE! HE’S A LIBERTARIAN REPUBLICAN!!!!!
Do you all need me to repeat that?
SANFORD IS A LIBERTARIAN REPUBLICAN, NOT A CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN.
And as such he should be judged on LIBERTARIAN MORAL STANDARDS!!! Not those of Conservative Republicans.
And as you all well know, we libertarians are much, much more socially tolerant, particularly on sexual matters than our conservative friends.
Our ranks in the libertarian movement, include Swingers, plenty of Gays/Lesbians, Legalization of Prostitution advocates, Nudists, even Porn Stars.
Sure, if you’re going to be comparing Mark Sanford to conservatives like Pat Robertson, Gary Bauer, or even Jim DeMint, he looks like a failure in the morals department.
But there’s your mistake. Sanford should NOT! be compared to conservatives, but rather to other libertarians, becuase…
MARK SANFORD IS A LIBERTARIAN REPUBLICAN!!!
ericdondero on July 3, 2009 at 8:49 AM
lastnightsparty: where were you last night
google that on amazon or whatevah
pretty much pr0n
blatantblue on July 3, 2009 at 8:50 AM
bill cosby voice:
yaaa dooo thaa googlin on the amazons
blatantblue on July 3, 2009 at 8:54 AM
Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, I respectfully, and quite stridently disagree with you on this.
THE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS ARE THE ONES WIL MORALS AND SHOULD BE JUDGED AS SUCH!!!
You Conservatives SHOULD NOT!!! be applying the same moral values to us Libertarians.
Look, Conservatives, we Libertarians are the best friends you all have in politics. We stand by y’all’s side on 90% of the issues. Do you really want to throw us aside because of disagreements on the other 10% (legalized drugs, prostitution, gambling, ect…)?
MARK SANFORD IS A LIBERTARIAN REPUBLICAN.
Let the libertarian wing of the GOP judge Sanford. Put him in front of a special board from the Republican Liberty Caucus. Let Cato give him a look. Allow the editors at Reason Magazine to judge his record, and his latest folly in Argentina.
Would you all want us Libertarians to judge your Conservative leaders?
This is an internal problem for the Libertarian Republican movement. This does not concern Conservative Republicans. Let us deal with it.
Thank you,
Eric Dondero, Publisher
Libertarian Republican
Fmr. Senior Aide, US Cong. Ron Paul 1997-2003
Fmr. Libertarian National Comm. Member
Founder, Republican Liberty Caucus
ericdondero on July 3, 2009 at 8:56 AM
OK, but do you think Democrats and the media (but I repeat myself) know the difference or would care if they did?
horatio on July 3, 2009 at 8:58 AM
Bingo!
Jeff, you hit the nail right on the hand. And therein lies the problem.
Doesn’t matter that she’s Supermom, driving the kids to football practice, and she’s a lovely partner at posh Charleston social gatherings.
WHAT REAL MEN WANT MOST IS A WIFE WHO IS A TOTAL SEX KITTEN IN THE BEDROOM!
She can be a perfect 100%-er, A+ on everyting else in life: taking care of the kids, being the perfect hostess, keeping a clean house, taking the dog for daily walks, ect…
If she doesn’t take care of the bedroom part, it cancels out everything else.
We super-Heterosexual males, want our wives to give us the Playboy Mansion in our bedrooms every night. And if we don’t get that, who the hell can blame us for seeking that somewhere’s else?
ericdondero on July 3, 2009 at 9:03 AM
Er..ah…eric…this is getting kind of creepy. A special wing of the GOP?
First we have the social conservative Republicans,
then the fiscal conservative Republicans, then the combined conservative Republicans, then the moderate Republicans, then the independent Republicans, then the pro-choice Republicans, then the log cabin gay Republicans, and now the Libertarian Republicans.
Who says we’re not a “BIG TENT party.
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 9:05 AM
Hoatio, who the ‘F’ cares what they think?
HotAir.com is a libertarian/conservative website. This is a matter for us to decide here at the one very website that brings libertarians and conservatives together. (Actually Pajamas Media, American Spectator and a few others do the same, but not as well as HA).
I am asking you all Conservatives, as a Libertarian Republican, and as one who has severely put my reputation on the line, a MILLION TIMES OVER, with my fellow Libertarians for defending you all so much, to PLEASE BACK OFF!!!
Again, MARK SANFORD IS A LIBERTARIAN REPUBLICAN! He should be judged by LIBERTARIAN STANDARDS NOT CONSERVATIVE STANDARDS.
Let us in the libertarian wing of the GOP deal with this. If you all conservatives want to be involved, than give us your moral support, and wish us the best. Outside of that, just stop bashing our Libertarian guy Mark Sanford!
ericdondero on July 3, 2009 at 9:07 AM
Ah..well…(as Reagan said to Mondale)…there you go again…
LOL..Look..I’m not “Hef”, neither are you I’m betting,let’s just enjoy our own wives for the people they are.
I’m betting, even if she isn’t a “sex kitten” you can find some other reason to remain faithful to your wife.
Am I right>?
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 9:11 AM
A closed mouth gathers no foot.
Uniblogger on July 3, 2009 at 9:25 AM
And wearing of pants keeps one from typing in his underwear
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 9:43 AM
The “Money Shot”…
bluelightbrigade on July 3, 2009 at 10:10 AM
But I thought Ron Paul was a Libertarian, not a Libertine.
DrMagnolias on July 3, 2009 at 10:12 AM
I just thought he was,…obscure
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Exactly.
Penfold on July 3, 2009 at 10:30 AM
Don’t you think Ron Paul would have done better in the primaries if he’d looked and sounded like Mitt Romney? (Sorry, not intending to hijack the thread).
DrMagnolias on July 3, 2009 at 10:30 AM
LOL – you said a mouthful!
Is it Shakespearian tragedy? Perhaps. I know that most people respond very strongly to this story; it seems that everyone feels they have to pin it down. And of course, it’s speculation, isn’t it? It’s not as though Jenny’s going to say, “in all fairmess I’m more like Debra in Everybody Loves Raymond – subtly undermining my husband’s already dubious manhood, and holding myself apart like some high-value commodity with the built-in virtue of being a Mother and presenting my value to Society as every decent woman is expected to. Sexual fulfillment is not my objective.” But there are hundreds of variants of this mindset out there. I think it’s sad that sex so often falls prey to all of the other things that we automatically make time for. And as we ALL know, most middle-aged men are not getting enough of it. If they were, offices would be much happier places.
disa on July 3, 2009 at 10:34 AM
And you’re betting wrong. The answer is No.
A wife’s primary responsibility for her husband is to be a total sex kitten in the bedroom for her husband. There’s now equivocation in that. There’s no “well, maybe…”
If not, than why should a guy be married in the first place. Why not fly to the Phillipines or Thailand, or go to Mexico or Vegas on the weekends with your buddies?
Competition in the market-place.
ericdondero on July 3, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Let me expound on that latter point.
What incentive does an American heterosexual male who doesn’t want children, have for being married today?
I have some buddies, who have never been married, and who never even bother with American chics. They have great jobs, high-demanding and high-paying jobs.
Sex? They save it up each month for trips to the Phillipines, Thailand, Amsterdam, or even just across the border in Mexico.
They have Sex bang-ups for three glorious days, sometimes 4, and then head back home for 3 to 4 weeks of hard work at their jobs.
How can an American female compete with that? They can’t. They demand from their husbands, work their asses off, take care of the household, help them with chores, all the while promising them nothing but boring mundane sex once a week if they’re lucky.
More and more successful American heterosexual males are going on strike. Or “Going Galt” if you will.
They’re telling the ladies in their life, thanks but not thanks. I can get everything I need from mini-vacations in far away exotic lands for the price of a plane ticket.
Euro Males have been doing this for decades. And now healthy, successful American hetero males are following their lead.
ericdondero on July 3, 2009 at 10:43 AM
Yes, but don’t you think there is a crack in the armor, an imp of the perverse, to use Poe’s phrase, which rises to the unspoken challenge “you’re too old, you’re on the downside of male vitality now” and yet there is a clear attraction, and it’s mutual. Your ego swells, you rationalize that it’s harmless fun to make eye contact and get a thrill (”OMG, I think she actually finds me atttactive, it’s been decades since this has happened”) and the reptilian brain responds. Before you know it you’re sucked in, because you want to feel that way again, ALL the way. And there you are on the event horizon.
disa on July 3, 2009 at 10:44 AM
And that’s another thing, when you fall in love – all those love songs resonate. I mean, REALLY resonate. It’s like you’ve tapped into a well or vein of gold or something that everyone talks about but now you’ve actually found it.
Love is the greatest thing in the world. Look at Obama sucking in huge quantities of it, like a rapacious vampire. The man has an endless need for the entire world’s love, and here we are, being mean-spirited to Sanford.
Just food for thought.
disa on July 3, 2009 at 10:52 AM
What is a man’s primary responsibility to his wife? If he fails to live up to that, does she have the right to fool around on him? Why should women get married? They can support themselves…they have choices these days.
ladyingray on July 3, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Well then, why marry at all? If one simply moves from one woman to the next,leaving her the minute she doesn’t “put out” as a sex kitten, why all the financial and emotional entanglement of marriage?
Remember the old addage: “Marriage is the most expensive piece…….
(Sorry out there)
Jeff from WI on July 3, 2009 at 11:07 AM
No one says it like Oingo Boingo:
I know what you’re thinking about…
I know what you’re thinking about…
I know what you’re thinking about at work…
I know what you’re thinking about at school…
I know what you’re thinking about…all the time..
I work so hard trying to make a few bucks
I pass the hours in a dream
The sweat keeps rolling off the tip of my nose
There’s only one thing keeps me on my feet
And I may be greasing the wheels of a noisy factory
And I may be hunched over metal machines
Watching the gears as they move
Just reminds me of bodies in motion
The sweat and the sound
Makes me think of…
Wild sex in the working class
After five it’s a gas
Wild sex in the working class
Counting minutes gonna get home fast
Thinking of your warm skin
While I touch cold steel
The days go by to the pounding beat
My back is aching so bad
But I’m grinning inside
Thinking of you keeps me on my feet
And I may be greasing the wheels of a noisy factory
And I may be hunched over metal machines
Watching the gears as they move
Just reminds me of bodies in motion
The sweat and the sound
Makes me think of…
Wild sex in the working class
After five it’s a gas
Wild sex in the working class
Counting minutes gonna get home fast
(saxophone interlude)
I work so hard thinking of you
I work so hard thinking of you
Work so hard
Wild sex in the working class
After five it’s a gas
Wild sex in the working class
Counting minutes gonna get home fast
Wild sex in the working class
Wild sex!
Wild sex!
disa on July 3, 2009 at 11:12 AM
How old are you, Journey? I could imagine my dad saying something like this. He was an absolute conservative but he understood human nature very well. In fact, I don’t think I’m being cynical when I say that it’s important to understand all aspects of human nature when you’re a leader. Liberals don’t, which is why their policies are so messed up. They succeed because of the vacuum created by a lack of honest watchdog reporting and the ignorance of the voters (which puts them at the mercy of smooth-talking spinners like Obama).
disa on July 3, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Are men who disclose that they act out of calculations of “getting laid” more or less likely to get laid?
Kralizec on July 3, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Jeez, Jeff, she’s the VICTIM here. May I remind you that we’re talking about the liberal media?
disa on July 3, 2009 at 11:30 AM
Uh-oh, I’m a 54-year-old female, and I’m expecting to get slaughtered in here by shriekers of both sexes…
disa on July 3, 2009 at 11:32 AM
I find this fascinating, the issue of where some libertarians break with liberals, and where some break with conservatives.
You’re on the same wavelength as Rush Limbaugh, regarding the emasculation of the American Male by the Feminazis.
Conservatism, as you can see, is already a very large tent.
disa on July 3, 2009 at 11:36 AM
AP didn’t say this…he’s quoting someone…a female…following the link…
ladyingray on July 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM
I’m really glad I checked in here today! I rarely have time to interact on comments thread nowadays, and I’ve missed it.
disa on July 3, 2009 at 11:38 AM
We don’t know what has been going on in their marriage. She may be the “VICTIM here” but more than likely, she is not 100% innocent with regards to their marital problems…not that that would excuse him…I’m just sayin’…
ladyingray on July 3, 2009 at 11:39 AM
It would work for me, as long as both partners keep their pledges!
disa on July 3, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Agreed. No one is.
disa on July 3, 2009 at 11:44 AM
LOL! You might have to. Daily affection is a good place to start. If the pot’s already simmering, it’s a hell of a lot easier to bring it to a boil.
Jeez, do I sound like Carrie Bradshaw??
disa on July 3, 2009 at 11:49 AM
I understand what you’re saying. Every fiscal conservative is a precious commodity.
disa on July 3, 2009 at 11:51 AM
But at what point does one say, “Let not perfection become the enemy of good”? That’s where the “ideals” come in. Human beings aren’t perfect. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be reprimanded for bad behavior, but a tar-and-feathering/being run out of the party is NOT appropriate, and is in fact wasteful of precious human resources. Besides, where does the Christian forgiveness disappear to when practicing all of this moral judgment?
disa on July 3, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Ah, Eric, Eric, Eric. It really is quite true that (assuming the man lusts, which not all men do) this is the crux of the problem. You are allowed to hire people to clean your house and take care of errands and children, but the sex within a marriage is supposed to happen with the wife. If she isn’t putting out (and thus fulfilling her part of the marriage contract), then you are SOL, buddy.
disa on July 3, 2009 at 12:03 PM
I wonder if I’m actually a Republican Libertarian. I sure seem to fit in with Eric, at least on this thread.
disa on July 3, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Ah, OK – here we differ. The building of a team through sex as an expression of love, Eric. If these guys think they don’t need or want that, ever, then I do feel sorry for them. Sounds very much like what the gay movement in the 70’s and 80’s was all about, which is why I don’t understand why they’re all clamoring for the right to be married now. They wanted none of that bourgeois codswallop back then.
But I don’t wish to hijack this thread. It’s bad enough that I’m currently playing catch-up alone from last night!
I’ll look for you in the future, EricD, to better assess if I’m a Libertarian or a Liberservative. Or maybe just a Contrarian ;-)
disa on July 3, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Just wondering: is it really impossible for so many people to accept that sometimes you fall in / out of love and you can’t control it. I don’t understand why the Sanfords didn’t get divorced but we have no idea what is going on within that relationship. His wife may have opted to stay together even with the knowledge of the other woman; she may have thought it would run its course (which it hasn’t).
I think this story is radically different than the other sex scandals we’ve seen.
Just wondering.
Stephanie on July 3, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Hey Sanford please please please take Michael Jackson with you and just go far far far away !!!!!
Baaboo on July 3, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Man’s primary responsibility to his wife: Be the main breadwinner for the household; secondary, protect the household from predators (criminals and wild animals).
The sex contract is as old as our species.
Excellent book if you all are interested on Evolutionary Theory published in 1982:
“The Sex Contract: The Evolution of Human Behavior” by Dr. Helen E. Fisher (William Morrow Publishers)
Also good on this subject, anything by Dr. Stephen Pinker, or Robert Wright’s “Evolutionary Psychology.”
ericdondero on July 3, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Disa, yes we do seem to agree on an awful lot.
Shameless plug for my site (if my friend Ed Morrisey shall permit):
http://www.libertarianrepublican.blogspot.com
ericdondero on July 3, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Disa, you’re 100% correct: The new Masculinity movement is very similar to the Gay Rights movement on the 1970s. It is all about Heterosexual Male liberation.
American males, mostly white males, are just “Going Galt,” dropping out of politically correct relationships with snotty, increasingly overweight, money hungry, child support demanding, American females, and doing one of two things:
1. Finding themselves a nice Asian or Mexican women to marry.
2. Going off on a monthly sex-otic mini vacation with their buddies to the Phillipines, Thailand, Mexico, Brazil, or even Argentina.
Actually, I’ve been increasingly seeing a similar version of #2, whereby American men simply have a couple Asian chics as “on-the-web” girlfriends, who they visit with every day via webcam, and then a few times a year in person. I’ve got a lot of California buddies who seem to do this, with mostly Thai chics. Works out great for both parties, cause the Thai chics can’t stand Thai men, and just adore American guys. Plus, they’re faithful, and extremely sexy. When the American guys come for a visit they shower them with gifts.
Wake up American women: American men are “Going Galt,” in increasing numbers.
ericdondero on July 3, 2009 at 1:04 PM
What if the man is not the primary bread winner for the family, and refuses to be.
What recourse does the wife have then?
ladyingray on July 3, 2009 at 1:05 PM
How do you know the Thai women are faithful? Because they say so?
ladyingray on July 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM
Ladyingray:
Leave his lazy ass.
But I will say this. I just returned from a stint in New England. I was working on a political drive up there. I was absolutely astonished at the amount of lower class men, living off their girlfriends. They don’t do jackshit for work, sometimes going to Labor Ready for beer and cigarette money. But mostly they just get drunk and live off their girlfriend’s government subsidy check.
I think this is a result of Obama’s new economy. Just promote male irresonsiblity, laziness and drunkeness, by giving more tax dollars to working class females.
ericdondero on July 3, 2009 at 1:09 PM
That has been around a whole lot longer than Obama…
ladyingray on July 3, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Ladyingray, Thai women are just like that. They’re know as very faithful to their men.
But not Filipinas, Vietnamese chics, and most certainly NOT! Korean women.
In general, Chinese, Japanese and Thai babes are the best.
(I’ve got Chinese btw.)
ericdondero on July 3, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Must not be the same with Japanese men…my sis is divorcing hers.
ladyingray on July 3, 2009 at 1:30 PM
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Ah, the right to find out how very wrong you are? Understood.
And I think it’s a terrible thing that the courts are instinctively prepared to strip a man of almost everything while giving way too much to the wife in a divorce. They’re still so medieval in that respect, most of the time. A man can be stripped of his children and most of his wealth for no reason other than his wife has lost interest in him, or doesn’t like his job (but still wants to benefit financially from his labor). I mean, either you’re strong and capable, or you’re a needy dependent. You can’t have it both ways.
disa on July 3, 2009 at 1:59 PM
Huh, you really ought to watch Judge Judy. Unfreakinbelievable.
disa on July 3, 2009 at 2:00 PM
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