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Honduras to OAS: Pound sand

posted at 9:28 am on July 1, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Honduras turned defiant today, reacting to an ultimatum from the Organization of American States to reinstate deposed president Manuel Zelaya.  Roberto Micheletti, appointed acting president by the Honduran legislature, responded by telling the OAS that Zelaya would be arrested immediately upon entering Honduras.  The only way in which Zelaya would return to the presidency, Micheletti promised, would be at the head of a foreign army:

Honduras’ interim leader warned that the only way his predecessor will return to office is through a foreign invasion, setting up a dramatic showdown with the ousted president who is preparing to come home accompanied by world leaders.

A defiant Roberto Micheletti said in an interview with The Associated Press late Tuesday that “no one can make me resign,” defying the United Nations, the Organization of American States, the Obama administration and other leaders that have condemned the military coup that ousted President Manuel Zelaya.

Micheletti vowed Zelaya would be arrested if he followed through with plans to return to Honduras on Thursday, even though the presidents of Argentina and Ecuador have signed on to accompany him along with the heads of the Organization of American States and the U.N. General Assembly.

Zelaya himself, though, gave some indication that he recognized his own lawbreaking, undermining the effort by the OAS:

Zelaya, who is an ally of leftist Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, backed down from the referendum Tuesday, saying at the United Nations that he would no longer push for the constitutional changes he wanted.

One of several clauses that cannot be legally altered in the Honduran constitution limits presidents to a single, 4-year term, and Congress claims Zelaya, whose term ends in January, modified the ballot question at the last minute to help him eventually try to seek re-election. Chavez has used referendums in Venezuela to win the right to run repeatedly.

“I’m not going to hold a constitutional assembly,” Zelaya said. “And if I’m offered the chance to stay in power, I won’t. I’m going to serve my four years.”

Maybe the OAS, and especially the Obama administration, should take a look at that statement and consider it awhile.  Honduras had legitimate reason to remove Zelaya from office, even if arguably they used illegitimate means to do so.  Zelaya repeatedly violated the constitution of Honduras, first by attempting to hold the referendum, and second by illegally firing the chief of the Army, who reports to both the president and the legislature in Honduras.

The idea of marching Zelaya back into Honduras flanked by the heads of state of two other nations is practically begging for war.  The Honduran military will have no choice but to arrest Zelaya, which will give Argentina and Ecuador an excuse to send its military if the trio have guns drawn on them at the airport.  And for what?  In the service of an executive who abused power and flouted the law in an attempt to make himself Presidente-for-Life?

Barack Obama has enabled this nuttiness with his meddling on behalf of a Chavez wannabe.  His State Department had better make it known that any attempt to fly Zelaya back into Honduras would be met with our displeasure, and that the issue rightly belongs with the Honduran legislature and courts.  Otherwise, we’ll have a war breaking out in Latin America that we can ill afford at the moment.


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FloatingRock on July 1, 2009 at 2:34 PM

It’s Honduras against the insane world. Now, they can join the select group of Israel and Taiwan and Colombia, and none of them can count on the US, anymore. The US, under the insane junta in Washington, is busy taking over the role of the old USSR. The big difference is that we have a suicidal junta, here, looking to kill us in the process.

progressoverpeace on July 1, 2009 at 2:46 PM

Is Fox giving accurate information on the air?

justincase on July 1, 2009 at 2:45 PM

Not that I’ve heard. If they were, they would say that Honduras fought off a coup.

progressoverpeace on July 1, 2009 at 2:48 PM

Put another way, do we actually believe in the processes in the Constitution, and in democracy republic?

Ragspierre on July 1, 2009 at 11:44 AM

FIFY.

To all the others here: we are not a democracy and nothing in our laws or constitution implies that we are. It is way past time to stop using that term, especially if we claim to love our country.

platypus on July 1, 2009 at 3:03 PM

I just looked on the Fox site and they had a fairly decent summary of the information, except that it didn’t say that the military acted on the orders of their Supreme Court and legislature, that their Constitution forbids a president who has tried to be in office more than 4 years from holding office, that impeachment was not an option, and that the military did nothing to establish who would rule in the interim.

Aside from that, it was fairly decent. lol.

How it took the information it had and still managed to call Zelaya’s Constitutional removal from office a “coup” escapes me.

Unfortunately, most people probably wouldn’t read to the end of the article either.

I wonder how we can hold Fox accountable.

justincase on July 1, 2009 at 3:05 PM

To all the others here: we are not a democracy and nothing in our laws or constitution implies that we are. It is way past time to stop using that term, especially if we claim to love our country.

platypus on July 1, 2009 at 3:03 PM

Because democratic republicanism is harder to say, apparently, and doesn’t make as catchy a slogan.

Count to 10 on July 1, 2009 at 3:07 PM

One word from Obama to Ecuador and Argentina quietly telling them that if their people show up, my airborne troops will arrest them will nix this bs in a heartbeat.

But it won’t happen because:

1) Obama is a coward, and
2) He sympathizes with the Chavez wanna-be Zelaya.

Sapwolf on July 1, 2009 at 3:18 PM

Aside from that, it was fairly decent. lol.

justincase on July 1, 2009 at 3:05 PM

Yep, Fox News has had slanted AP articles on the subject from the beginning. Very disappointing. But then, Rush didn’t even mention the subject today that I noticed, (though he did yesterday). I guess people just don’t care enough to protest that one of our few allies in the region is being railroaded, even by our own president, and may soon fall as a result. That’s surprising to me because If conservatives fight this and make people aware of the facts, American’s will overwhelmingly side with Honduras and it has the potential to do more harm to Obama than his domestic agenda has so far.

Sometimes people can’t see the forest through the trees because they are caught up in it themselves. They’re accustomed to it. When they look at Obama’s support for a wannabe dictator in another country where the forest can be seen in it’s entirety, suddenly the forest, and the fact that Obama is helping to burn it down, becomes apparent.

FloatingRock on July 1, 2009 at 3:20 PM

This was a legal upholding of the Honduran Constitution against an illegal coup attempt.

We in the USA should be watching this due to the possible events taking place here, especially Obama’s attempts to hold a fraudulent 2012 election or the longshot attempt at changing the Constitution to allow more than 2 terms.

Sapwolf on July 1, 2009 at 3:21 PM

I sent this e-mail to “America’s Newsroom”:

Would everyone please stop using the word “coup” to describe what happened in Honduras?

The Constitution of Honduras says not only that 4 yrs is the max for a president, but that any president who tries to change the 4-year limit must be removed from office. Both the legislature and Supreme Court had communicated to Zelaya the fact that what he was doing was unconstitutional. By law Zelaya cannot be president any more (or ever) and cannot hold any elected office for another 10 years. That’s their Constitution.

The process for impeachment was taken away a few years ago. The only way to enforce the law was by force. Zelaya could get rid of any law enforcement that would actually forcibly remove him, but the Constitution allows only the legislature to get rid of the military leadership. Zelaya tried to get rid of the military head so that there would be nobody who could actually enforce the Constitution.

In other words, ZELAYA ATTEMPTED A COUP AND HONDURAN LEGISLATURE AND SUPREME COURT STOPPED HIM BY THE ONLY LEGAL MEANS AT THEIR DISPOSAL.

So I would appreciate it if you would make those facts known and alter your word choice to reflect reality. If you call it a “coup” make sure that it is ZELAYA’s coup attempt that was thwarted.

I would appreciate an e-mail response showing that you received this information and a note saying what you did in response to it.

Thanks!

justincase on July 1, 2009 at 3:21 PM

http://veritasbelt.blogspot.com
justincase on July 1, 2009 at 11:48 AM

I checked your site and was happy to find these until I reached this:

14. Fired and replaced the CEO of a private company (GE).

The CEO was Rick Wagoner of GM and the White House demanded his resignation rahter than firing him (small difference, I know).

The other president who micromanaged the economy to the degree Obama is doing was JimmahCahtahPeenutFahmah. That didn’t turn out so well, what with astronomical mortgage rates on the order of 18% and higher, among other problems.

ExpressoBold on July 1, 2009 at 3:22 PM

From Fausta:

the OAS resolution, they invoke

the importance of the importance of strict adherence and respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms

and

the principles established in the Charter of the Organization of American States and the Inter-American Democratic Charter on the strengthening and preservation of the democratic institutional system in member states

The OAS, which recently voted to let Cuba back in, is talking about principles, and “the importance of strict adherence and respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms”? Where the hell is the OAS when it comes to the Ladies in White, their husbands and relatives, and the Cuban political prisoners that Marc Masferrer blogs about, week after week? When has there ever been democracy in Cuba in the past decades?

Where was the OAS before the “coup”?

http://faustasblog.com/?p=13769

elduende on July 1, 2009 at 3:26 PM

I’ll see if I can get that changed, ExpressoBold. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. If you think of anything else that should be on there let me know.

The Cap and Trade bill that had a “space-filler” where stuff could be added in later, after the bill had passed, wasn’t added because that was Congress, but it’s indicative of how badly the American people and our process is screwed.

justincase on July 1, 2009 at 3:28 PM

I’ll see if I can get that changed, ExpressoBold. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
justincase on July 1, 2009 at 3:28 PM

No problem, Justincase. The list is very useful and deserves to be kept alive and updated. It’s a great source of talking points and useful to badger the Congress Critters (although I like my Congressman, J. Randy Forbes). I plan to check it frequently for ammo and anger management.

ExpressoBold on July 1, 2009 at 3:40 PM

Elduende, you always have the best information. Thanks for the information! This was in one of the references at Fausta’s blog:

“For weeks, Zelaya — an erratic leftist who styles himself after his good pal Hugo Chávez of Venezuela — has been engaged in a naked and illegal power grab, trying to rewrite the Honduran constitution to allow him to run for reelection in November.

First Zelaya scheduled a national vote on a constitutional convention. After the Honduran supreme court ruled that only the country’s congress could call such an election, Zelaya ordered the army to help him stage it anyway. (It would be ”non-binding,” he said.) When the head of the armed forces, acting on orders from the supreme court, refused, Zelaya fired him, then led a mob to break into a military base where the ballots were stored.

His actions have been repudiated by the country’s supreme court, its congress, its attorney-general, its chief human-rights advocate, all its major churches, its main business association, his own political party (which recently began debating an inquiry into Zelaya’s sanity) and most Hondurans: Recent polls have shown his approval rating down below 30 percent.

In fact, about the only people who didn’t condemn Zelaya’s political gangsterism were the foreign leaders and diplomats who now primly lecture Hondurans about the importance of constitutional law. They’re also strangely silent about the vicious stream of threats against Honduras spewing from Chávez since Zelaya was deposed.”

justincase on July 1, 2009 at 3:41 PM

I wonder if Smartmatic/Sequoia got the contract for Honduras’ voting system. I know they put in a bid for it.

I haven’t done any research on this, but came across this site http://vcrisis.com/index.php?content=letters/200604100835 which brings up the Chavez connection. Not sure how to get to the bottom of all the claims.

I know Obama likes Chavez because he’s commie, but Obama really went out on a limb here. There has to be more in it for him than just world popularity. He stands to lose a lot of Hispanic votes, I would think. But maybe he’s not worried about losing votes, if the votes can easily be manufactured by Chavez…

justincase on July 1, 2009 at 4:16 PM

Any computer programmer people out there? Is there any way for independent analysts to verify whether the software running a ballot system is able to be manipulated and/or WAS manipulated? Is it just a matter of blind trust?

justincase on July 1, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Send a personal note of support for the rule of law and the people of Honduras to the Honduran Embassy in DC. Seems they might deserve a bit of encouragement after being Obamacized.

embassy@hondurasemb.org

Keep it polite.

coldwarrior on July 1, 2009 at 4:32 PM

justincase on July 1, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Last time I checked, Honduras uses paper ballots. Even the capital, Tegucigalpa, isn’t fully wired in to that internet thingie or fully functional in this here computer stuff, yet.

coldwarrior on July 1, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Barack Obama has enabled this nuttiness with his meddling on behalf of a Chavez wannabe. His State Department had better make it known that any attempt to fly Zelaya back into Honduras would be met with our displeasure, and that the issue rightly belongs with the Honduran legislature and courts. Otherwise, we’ll have a war breaking out in Latin America that we can ill afford at the moment.

Ed, this is Barack Obama we’re talking about. He’s a narcissistic idiot, and unlike Bush, I don’t think he’s employing obfuscating stupidity but rather its reverse, feigned intelligence.

If it doesn’t in some way benefit the Big O to be expedient, he will ignore it, just like he ignored the death of Private William Long at the hands of a terrorist for three days. What the hell does Obama care about anyone but himself. He already bashes our country, why would Honduras matter to him?

BKennedy on July 1, 2009 at 4:35 PM

This whole episode is just another example of the lack of attention to detail that the media, the White House, and many members of Congress routinely exhibit.

It’s a shame that anyone can take 20 minutes online and be more educated on a foreign policy issue than the President of the United States.

hawksruleva on July 1, 2009 at 4:47 PM

Justincase at Veritas

20b). A little over two weeks later a Black Muslim convert killed William Long, a young Black military recruiter in Arkansas

I do believe the soldier killed was not black.

I appreciate your listing but it needs to be accurate.

Pat in NC on July 1, 2009 at 5:03 PM

For a president who purports to be so anti-war, Obama sure stepped right in to support the position of Chavez and Castro, even with Chavez’s threat of foreign invasion. I guess war is okey dokey if your pal is using troops to put his puppet in place.

inmypajamas on July 1, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Here’s the number for the main switchboard at State: 202-647-4000. They just dump you into a mailbox but the operator’s annoyed little prepared spiel about “voicing your concerns about Honduras” made it sound like they must be hearing from more than a few citizens upset with the Honduras situation. Your message may never get heard but it’ll make you feel a little better to get it off your chest, at least.

inmypajamas on July 1, 2009 at 5:08 PM

Will Herr Obama and the OAS reprise Hitler’s restoring Mussolini by restoring Zelaya?

MB4 on July 1, 2009 at 5:16 PM

justincase on July 1, 2009 at 3:41 PM

yeah Fausta rocks she is the “go to” resource on just about everything Latin America related.

elduende on July 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM

His actions have been repudiated by the country’s supreme court, its congress, its attorney-general, its chief human-rights advocate, all its major churches, its main business association, his own political party (which recently began debating an inquiry into Zelaya’s sanity) and most Hondurans: Recent polls have shown his approval rating down below 30 percent.

In fact, about the only people who didn’t condemn Zelaya’s political gangsterism were the foreign leaders and diplomats who now primly lecture Hondurans about the importance of constitutional law. They’re also strangely silent about the vicious stream of threats against Honduras spewing from Chávez since Zelaya was deposed.”

justincase on July 1, 2009 at 3:41 PM

yep, none of this came out of the blue. This crisis was a long time coming and Obama knew about it which ws why they were trying to defend Zelaya all last week. Until Obama’s meddling emboldened Zelaya and at the urging of Chavez called his followers into the streets of Honduras to intimidate the nation. It failed.

elduende on July 1, 2009 at 5:20 PM

This is the monkey in the wrench, the fly in the ointment, for Chavez and Obama. Will Chavez instigate an armed conflict when US troops are already “in country”?

U.S Southern Command has suspended military operations with
Honduras today until things “are clarified”. There are about 600 U.S. troops stationed in Palmerola / Enrique Soto Cano Air base, about 80 km north of Tegucigalpa.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmerola

U.S. troops in country. How inconvenient for Obama, Chavez, and Zelaya.

elduende on July 1, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Isn’t it interesting the “world leaders” that are going to accompany Zelaya back into Honduras, are so trusting, when, according to their claims, Honduras is now a lawless military state.

Isn’t that sorta kinda like they are committing a conscious act of suicide?

In any case, something is wrong with this picture.

Maybe, just maybe, they DO know the truth, and want Zelaya back in power for reasons less than savory.

Danzo on July 1, 2009 at 5:36 PM

This would be high comedy if it wasn’t so damned dangerous…

karl9000 on July 1, 2009 at 5:43 PM

Huge Pro Honduras Anti Zelaya Rallies across Honduras today.

http://www.elheraldo.hn/

elduende on July 1, 2009 at 5:46 PM

Chavez and the rest of the leftist South/Central American (Peru,Ecuador,Nicaragua,Cuba) nuthuggers that worship him are scared. Argentina’s leftist party lost their majority this past weekend and Chavez’s Iranian buddy facing a potential civil war. Hugo is seeing the writing on the wall. Hopefully our weak President doesn’t stick his nose in this one and not follow Chavez’s rally call to have this crook Zelaya re-instated. Regardless Zelaya won’t last long if he does return.

It’s a shame we don’t have a strong president in charge to support these countries that are fighting Castro/Chaves inspired regimes…

DRod on July 1, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Honduras to OAS: Pound sand

To Barry Soetoro:
WHERE’S THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

byteshredder on July 1, 2009 at 6:42 PM

elduende on July 1, 2009 at 5:46 PM

And not surprisingly, none of it covered in the American media. Not a twit about Iran, either.

coldwarrior on July 1, 2009 at 7:03 PM

The media is not reporting the news correctly. Everyone refers to this as a military coup, but the military only acted as “police” with approval and order from the Supreme Court and Congress. The military is not holding power in the government. And they did it to stop one more dictator from taking over a Central/South American country, specially considering that most of these are puppets of Chavez.

I find it funny that Ed suggests that if Zelaya is arrested upon arrival Argentina and Ecuador will start a war with Honduras. I am from Argentina and I can tell you that we only have the remnants of an army thanks to current and recent administrations. I am ashamed to have Cristina Kitchner lose times from important problems in the country just to follow some orders from Chavez (yes, she’s going because of orders from him just as Ecuador is).

Honduras was gutsy to make a move before their democracy (flawed or not) was turned into an autocracy. Since the majority of the country agrees in removing Zelaya, I hope they stay strong in the face the UN, Barry, and everyone else not paying attention to what was really going on.

ptcamn on July 1, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Micheletti doesn’t seem to understand.

The One, Dear Leader, the messiah of the free world himself has spoken.

Submit. Resistance is futile.

swede7 on July 1, 2009 at 7:18 PM

Good for Honduras, telling the One and the OAS to get stuffed. I wrote their Consulate and offered my support.

http://www.hondurasemb.org/consulados.html

greenLibertarian on July 1, 2009 at 8:03 PM

Say what you will, I’ll bet the Hondurans could see Zelaya’s birth certificate if they wanted to.

darwin-t on July 1, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Pat in NC at 5:03

I was confused on that. Someone here had mentioned that the victim was black, but they must have meant the one who was injured rather than killed. I will see if I can get that changed. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

justincase on July 1, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Any computer programmer people out there? Is there any way for independent analysts to verify whether the software running a ballot system is able to be manipulated and/or WAS manipulated? Is it just a matter of blind trust?

justincase on July 1, 2009 at 4:24 PM

Only if the independent analysts are actually allowed to monitor the systems… even then it may be hard to tell.

So yeah… it is just a matter of blind trust.

This is probably the biggest case (in my mind) for paper ballots.

Chaz706 on July 1, 2009 at 11:05 PM

Chaz706, right now I’m not in a mood to have blind faith in anybody in the government. From the site I looked at earlier, it seems to me that the folks in Chicago had some strong suspicions and were frustrated by the lack of answers. I wonder what independent observers/analysts are used to protect the integrity of the voting system.

Even paper ballots have problems. I think we need to have surveillance cameras at the polling places every minute – broadcast live on internet so we the people can watch what’s happening even when (for instance) democrat precincts won’t allow independent observers in, or when somebody calls after the polls are closed to find out the count and the poll worker asks, “How many votes do you need?”

I’ve wondered about requiring people to scan in a fingerprint so that the final tally can only have the same number of people as there are unique fingerprints. That way if the poll workers are going to fill in 500 ballots after the polls close they need to come up with 500 different fingerprints. We may not know if Mickey Mouse voted, but we can know how many people actually voted.

justincase on July 1, 2009 at 11:33 PM

Obama’s behavior is just outrageous. I may have been disappointed in his soft response to Iran, but one could make a case for the being the right strategy.

But this. This! What the f#<@ ! We have a US president actively working towards reinstating a fascist thug when the democratic forces in a country kick him out .

And those who thought it was better to see McCain lose…happy now?

BryanS on July 1, 2009 at 11:41 PM

Screw Zelaya, Chavez, Obama and Castro. Let Obama take note of what happens when a national Constitution is violated with impunity.

BottomLine5 on July 2, 2009 at 12:24 AM

What was in that book that Chaves gave Obama?

Blueprints?

Kini on July 2, 2009 at 1:17 AM

I been to Honduras once, and it was hot and humid as hell. If I was the Pres I wouldn’t bother returning.

V-rod on July 2, 2009 at 4:23 AM

Dear gopers,Honduras today banned all civil liberties, like protests and illegal searches. But right, it wasn’t a coup. As long as the thugs in Honduras are on the opposite side of Obama you support the thugs. Because your pure hatred of Obama is greater than thugs in Honduras. Hows that make you feel? But keep listening to Rush, he will lead you out of the wilderness.

athensboy on July 2, 2009 at 7:19 AM

Dear gopers,Honduras today banned all civil liberties, like protests and illegal searches. But right, it wasn’t a coup. As long as the thugs in Honduras are on the opposite side of Obama you support the thugs. Because your pure hatred of Obama is greater than thugs in Honduras. Hows that make you feel? But keep listening to Rush, he will lead you out of the wilderness.

athensboy on July 2, 2009 at 7:19 AM

Wow, how back-water are you?!? It clear that you need to go live in Cuba. American liberties and Freedoms have you completely spoiled to the effect that you have no real understanding of what’s happening outside the US outside of what CNN and MSNBC tell you.

Ignorance: the Democrats standard protocol to international affairs.

DRod on July 2, 2009 at 8:34 AM

Dear gopers,Honduras today banned all civil liberties, like protests and illegal searches. But right, it wasn’t a coup. As long as the thugs in Honduras are on the opposite side of Obama you support the thugs. Because your pure hatred of Obama is greater than thugs in Honduras. Hows that make you feel? But keep listening to Rush, he will lead you out of the wilderness.

athensboy on July 2, 2009 at 7:19 AM

Iran.

That’s al lyou need to be hearing right now. Until you fucktards on the left start talking cogently about Iran, you have nothing…NOTHING…to say about coups and civil liberties and other shit you obviously don’t know or care about.

fuckoff.

bluelightbrigade on July 2, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Hey leftist troll:

This is what it looks like when fascists crush free speech in Honduras.

In Tegucigalpa last night.
http://www.laprensahn.com/Ediciones/2009/07/02/Noticias/Vigilia-contra-regreso-de-Manuel-Zelaya

In Puerto Cortes all day yesterday and last night.
http://www.laprensahn.com/Ediciones/2009/07/02/Noticias/En-marcha-portenos-apoyan-la-democracia

In Choluteca yesterday.
http://www.elheraldo.hn/Secciones-Principales/Inicio

In La Ceiba all day yesterday and last night.
http://www.laprensahn.com/Ediciones/2009/07/02/Noticias/La-Ceiba-clama-paz-para-Honduras

In Tegucigalpa again last night.

http://www.elheraldo.hn/Especiales/Honduras%20en%20contra%20de%20la%20ilegalidad%20del%2024%20de%20junio%20de%202009/Ediciones/2009/07/02/Noticias/De-noche-y-de-dia-oran-por-el-nuevo-gobierno

Oh wait those are all anti-Zelaya, anti Communist, anti Chavez protests. Good thing civil liberties have been suspended…oh wait…

here’s one of those non existant “prohibited” ones. Notice all the Zelaya thugs covering their faces with the red flags of the Communist Party. Here they are threatening civil war…

Zelaya thugs in Tegucigalpa yesterday.
http://www.elheraldo.hn/Especiales/Honduras%20en%20contra%20de%20la%20ilegalidad%20del%2024%20de%20junio%20de%202009/Ediciones/2009/07/02/Noticias/Simpatizantes-de-Mel-muestran-su-civismo

Go do some research before you come in here defending your filth of a president, troll.

elduende on July 2, 2009 at 9:42 AM

athensboy on July 2, 2009 at 7:19 AM

Must suck to have your filth of a president aligned with Chavez, Ortega, Correa, The Castros, and the Communist Party.

elduende on July 2, 2009 at 9:48 AM

“The Honduran military will have no choice but to arrest Zelaya, which will give Argentina and Ecuador an excuse to send its military if the trio have guns drawn on them at the airport.” What? Do these guys have entry visas? I suspect not. So one alternative, is to order the plane to park in an isolated spot, have immigration agents board the plane, ask the non-Hondurans for visas, and, if they don’t have them, order them to stay on the plane while it refuels and then send them packing? Of course, it might be fun to watch Ecuador and Argentina “invade” Honduras!?! How would their troops get there, on scheduled flights of Aerolineas Argentinas? Oh wait, there aren’t any flights to Tegucigalpa. Ed, please, get real. But, after we stop laughing, the posturing of the assorted Latin American Chavez mini-mes and his puppet Obama would be funny if the chance for unintended consequences weren’t, unfortunately, real.

boqueronman on July 2, 2009 at 2:59 PM

Be prepared to back up your words with hot lead, Hondurans.

Dark-Star on July 2, 2009 at 8:59 PM

Be prepared to back up your words with hot lead, Hondurans.

Dark-Star on July 2, 2009 at 8:59 PM

I can assure you they are. Served as a Military Advisor with the Honduran Army in ‘88-89. Rarely Have I seen so patriotic men.

Little known fact. The Honduran army is full of young Sergeant Majors and Master Sergeants that got those stripes by killing insurgents. (When I say young, I mean most aren’t even 30.)

opusrex on July 3, 2009 at 11:20 AM

Article 313 of the Honduran constitution allows its Supreme Court to deputize the Honduran military to carry out its orders, including removing politicians from office who seek to extend a president’s term.</blockquote>

elduende on July 3, 2009 at 11:58 AM

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