Limbaugh: Obama’s going to try for a third term or something

posted at 6:04 pm on June 30, 2009 by Allahpundit

Yeah, I know Jose Serrano introduced a House resolution to repeal the 22nd Amendment a few months ago. He did the same thing in 2003. It went nowhere then and it’ll go nowhere now. Help me figure this out: Conservatives are absolutely convinced that Obamanomics was, is, and can only be an unmitigated disaster for the country, so much so that the chief strategy among the base for a Republican revival at the moment is to sit back, watch liberalism implode, and then welcome back voters to the right with open arms. If all of that’s true and a backlash to Hopenchange is inevitable, how is Barry O planning to get a constitutional amendment passed before 2016? He’d need 2/3 of both the House and Senate and 3/4 of the states to ratify it. Even if every Democrat in Congress voted to lift presidential term limits (which they wouldn’t, if only for reasons of simple self-interest), they’d still need to pick up a bunch more seats in both chambers to push it through. How bad, exactly, does Rush see things getting for the GOP — especially at the state level, where only 14 red states could block the amendment — that he’d imagine something like that might be possible? I don’t follow him here at all. Click the image to watch.


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People are finding it hard to believe that an American president would actually want this country to go the way of these other third world countries.Nothing this man does surprises any of us who did not vote for him.
He wants people totally dependent on the government.America needs to wake up and start looking beyond what he is doing and ask yourself WHY he’s doing it.

ohiobabe on June 30, 2009 at 7:12 PM

Upstater:

No, I have pointed out that people think that is a very big deal. The idea that most Americans would just ignore the fact that a president refused to leave office, is silly. It really is. Can you imagine the Evening News?

I mean really, it sounds just as goofy and paranoid as it did when the lefties said the same thing about Bush.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:12 PM

… or referendums will be held in Kenya, Chicago, the UN, and Tijuanna…

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 7:04 PM

Heh, we could use transnational law to interpret the 22nd Amendment. After all, it is a living document, is it not?

petefrt on June 30, 2009 at 7:12 PM

Who says 0bama will rely on a vote to stay in power?

Lou Budvis on June 30, 2009 at 6:07 PM

This.

Remember the quote during the campaign? Something along the lines of needing to create a civilian defense force that is just as well equipped and trained as the military? Remember that one?

Oh really? And why would you need that?

BardMan on June 30, 2009 at 6:16 PM

+ 1,000 and Mega Dittos!

For those of you who do not get this, just remember this line “at first they came for ___________, and now they come for me.”

He can do it, and would do it in a heartbeat! He has CAIR, ISNA, La Raza, ACORN, NAACP, Ameri-Corp, illegals, every welfare recipient, and American hater in America would line up behind him and the DNC.

You can say we are brainwashed by Rush, are members of the black helicopter crowd, or card carrying loons, but the fact remains that Obama is all we have been trying to alert you non-believers to, and you refuse still to acknowledge it. We are going past socialism. We are now in the realm of Fascism.

This was the day Rush clued us in to what is coming down the pike. Mark it down, and put a star on you calendar. Today was the day Rush finally let us know, he knows what we have been alarmed over since the day Obama declared his candidacy. Fascism is on the march. Anything you think cannot happen, think again.

freeus on June 30, 2009 at 7:13 PM

Or, again, are you asking for DNA-test-type ironclad proof here?

ConScribe on June 30, 2009 at 7:07 PM

Just a simple Birth Certificate would suffice.

MB4 on June 30, 2009 at 7:15 PM

I know Jose Serrano introduced a House resolution to repeal the 22nd Amendment a few months ago…

Is this the same Serrano that played for the ’89 Cleveland Indians and had a statue of Jobu to help him hit a curveball?

Oh wait, that was “Pedro” not Jose. I’m pretty sure that guy did hold some kind of public office, though. Or maybe he was a secret agent or something…

ScottMcC on June 30, 2009 at 7:15 PM

but somehow or other Obama {or any other president} could just overlook the whole transition of power thing for the first time in our history and people would not notice?

This junta can ram through 1000+ page bills that they are proud to say none of them have read and have little, if any, idea what is in them. I don’t put anything beyond such people. Think about it.

I don’t think that is true. And I don’t think there is any real evidence of it either. Look at our history.

You seem to forget that all of American history has now been either ignored, denigrated, or twisted into an unrecognizable tale. Did you know that we are one of the largest muslim nations on Earth? Did you know how nasty the old US was? Did you know that we need to “break free from the essential constraints the Founders placed int he Constitution”? Did you know that empathy is more important for a judge to have?

I could go on for page after page of this stuff.

When did that ever happen? With Andrew Jackson?

I don’t know. When did the US ever vote for a marxist? When did the US ever vote a dual citizen in as President? Lots of things are happening that never happened before, and the neo-pravda media is pushing it all the way. Don’t underestimate the power of the press. They are sh!ts, but they do have power. You’ve been experiencing it.

A lot of people thought it would. But it did not. We even managed elections after the Civil War. We had elections during 2 world wars.

We would not have had elections had it been The Precedent in office when the credit crisis hit. We would have had martial law, right then. If you don’t think that, then you really don’t understand what’s going on.

I am sorry, I just think it is nuts.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:06 PM

That’s okay. You’re allowed to think that, but it isn’t.

progressoverpeace on June 30, 2009 at 7:16 PM

Okay, are we supposed to believe that our military, the same military that takes an oath to protect and defend would just turn on us? Isn’t that kind of a crappy way to look at those soldiers? What about the Governors and state legislatures? The Supreme Court?

No, I don’t see this happening. The United States has managed to get through two world wars, a civil war, a great depression without turning into a banana republic. I don’t see that happening now.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:17 PM

Upstater:

No, I have pointed out that people think that is a very big deal. The idea that most Americans would just ignore the fact that a president refused to leave office, is silly. It really is. Can you imagine the Evening News?

First, I don’t think the majority of Americans would accept this… that said, I can see a sizable amount of Americans coming out for rallies supporting the term extension referendum… Think NYC, Chicago, LA, Detroit, Tijuanna, &c… ACORN was meant for such referendums… I can also see perhaps a majority of Americans doing nothing if he did have a referendum (and won…)… Finally, I could see Chris Matthews and his “colleagues” fainting on air as the results of the referendum victory came in…

I mean really, it sounds just as goofy and paranoid as it did when the lefties said the same thing about Bush.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:12 PM

Of course it did (right?)… but then again, Bush didn’t have quite the power grab Obama had… Oh, and I’m not completely sure I’d trust Bush or Cheney…

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 7:18 PM

The one difference is,,,, we are not Argentina, we are not Venezuela, we are not Europe,,,, we are the United States of America.
We are a different people. We have a different heritage, a different history and we do come from a different stock.
For all that Obama has done,,,, it is still only been 5-6 months. Would you really expect Americans to turn against any President so quickly??? Really??? Americans may be impatient with their food orders,,, may be in a hurry on the highway,,, but historically,,, are we not patient with new Presidents???
Yes,,, our population is changing,, our education system has been dumbed down,, the Democrats have a complete majority and our media is just a propaganda machine.
But,, with all of that,, 55-57 million people still voted against Obama. They haven’t gone away. They are still here.
Every President has his honeymoon,, especially one as “historic” the first black President.

Yes,, we may not be what we once were as a nation,,, but have we really fallen yet so far as to allow our nation to become a dictatorship??? Will Obama try?? I do think he will. But will he succeed?? We shall have to see.
America is not what the media projects every night on TV. America is not Chris Matthews. America is not Catie Couric or any of these other talking heads. America is not Obama.
Our future as a nation has not yet been written. The question is,,, what will a significant number of Americans do once the realization has come that if and when, Obama and the Democrats are truly trying to attempt one party rule and establish Obama as the Marxist dictator he wants to be.
Too many Americans are still not paying attention,, too many still may not want to believe,,, too many are still thinking Obama just got elected. But what will things be like in another few months? A year from now?
I know,,, maybe it’ll be too late by then. Maybe not.
Americans can be slow to wake up,,,but once awaken,, well,,, that may be a different story.
Obama is historical.
The response, protests and activism he and the Democrats inspire in a significant number of people at some point in the future may also be very historical,, and distinctly American.
The future is always yet to be written.

JellyToast on June 30, 2009 at 7:18 PM

After all, it is a living document, is it not?

petefrt on June 30, 2009 at 7:12 PM

and everything that lives must die eventually….

Ann NY on June 30, 2009 at 7:18 PM

Heh, we could use transnational law to interpret the 22nd Amendment. After all, it is a living document, is it not?

petefrt on June 30, 2009 at 7:12 PM

Did they not use international agreements to condemn Teh Coo?

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 7:18 PM

Argue public policy, forget the man. Attacking the man didn’t help against Reagan or Clinton or Bush II. All got re-elected.

Public policy, public policy, public policy….

SteveMG on June 30, 2009 at 6:16 PM

Wouldn’t you say that Obama’s sympathies with the ousted Zelaya; Obama’s sharing a political point of view with Chavez, Ortega, and the Castro boys; and Obama’s threats to cut financial aid/trading agreements are all evidence of Obama’s political philosophy and public policy?

Obama is criticizing the implementation of the Honduran constitution by the Hondurans. Isn’t that a reflection of poor diplomacy and equally poor public policy?

onlineanalyst on June 30, 2009 at 7:20 PM

I’ve been saying here for days now, Obama’s support for this ‘ex-president’ is his way of setting a precedent… ;)

Midas on June 30, 2009 at 7:20 PM

How is it that you allege that BHO is not a natural-born citizen? I’m serious and curious here because I have read your mention of this on a number of your posts.

ConScribe on June 30, 2009 at 7:07 PM

It would take the SCOTUS to make the actual determination, but it is clear to me that holding another citizenship at any point in ones life immediately obviates ‘natural-born citizen’ status, never to be regained. It’s not much different than if a natural-born citizen relinquished his citizenship. He would then, clearly, not be a natural-born citizen, since he was no longer a citizen (even though he was born as a natural-born citizen) and he would not regain his natural-born status by getting American citizenship back (through naturalization).

If one disagrees with my interpretation, then they would have to allow for current dual citizens (who were natural-born Americans at birth) to be President. That is clearly insane. So, I come to thte conclusion that the moment another citizenship is taken, that’s it for ‘natural-born’ status. Nothing else would make sense.

progressoverpeace on June 30, 2009 at 7:21 PM

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:02 PM

If it happened, it wouldn’t happen by repealing the 22nd Amendment. It all depends on how much Kool Aid he doles out to the American people and what sort of crisis or crises we face. In the event of, say, a horrific act of terrorism it is not entirely beyond reason to imagine him claiming a need to stay in power to handle the crisis. These are crazy times with an unprecedented power grab going on by Barack and the Dems in Congress.

It’s also possible he’ll be kicked out of office by voters in 2012.

Meanwhile, Robert Gibbs says not to worry out the rumors circulating today.

Buy Danish on June 30, 2009 at 7:21 PM

freeus on June 30, 2009 at 7:13 PM

To my knowledge Rush is the first major right-wing talk show host to come out with this proposition. I know some callers tried to bring it up on his program before and he shot them down quick.

I just think that Rush and his cohorts didn’t want to identify themselves with the ‘tinfoil crowd or Trutherism, so they intentionally avoided wild conspiracy theories to retain their credibility.

But something must have clicked for Rush over the weekend. Notice the attacks on him have become much more vicious on this thread. Could it be that Obama didn’t want the American people to know of his real end game?

Just like with the hit piece of Sarah Palin today in Vanity Fair, does anybody with just a sniff on political knowledge really believe that Sarah is not a threat to the Republican establishment?

And Rush’s revelation to his 22m listeners makes him even more of a threat to Obama and the survival of the revolution.

technopeasant on June 30, 2009 at 7:22 PM

progressoverpeace:

I just read Amity Shlae’s book on the Great Depression, the Forgotten Man. And nothing Obama has done can begin to compare to the kind of changes that FDR brought to this country. And he had people in his administration that were every bit as radical in their time as Obama is in his.

As for the 1000 page bill no one read, I think the same thing could be said about a lot of bills. In fact if I remember correctly the same thing was said about the farm bill Bush vetoed and the Congress passed on over ride.

I also think that most Americans love this country and are proud of it. They do not want to secede and become {as Lincoln said} petty principalities…nor would they just over look the complete abandonment of our system of government. You over estimate Obama and you underestimate this country.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:22 PM

Okay, are we supposed to believe that our military, the same military that takes an oath to protect and defend would just turn on us? Isn’t that kind of a crappy way to look at those soldiers? What about the Governors and state legislatures? The Supreme Court?

Argentina and the Kirchners (well, and wife) have done a swell job of neutering the military… (good or bad?). FDR and Jackson to name of few either threatened the court or just ignored it.

No, I don’t see this happening. The United States has managed to get through two world wars, a civil war, a great depression without turning into a banana republic. I don’t see that happening now.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:17 PM

As the law is now, I don’t see it happening. That said, we should be ever watchful and protect/restore the Constitution. If Rush hinting that Obama is taking notes about how to hold referendums is what it takes, then so be it. I have faith in our system, but I definitely do not have faith in Obama’s dream system.

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Good god, the moonbats are definitely alive and well in the hotair comments.

DaveS on June 30, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Obama respects power. That’s it. Just look at his response to world events.

When people fight to free themselves of an abuse of power and are cut down in the streets: Ice cream.

When people successfully stop an abuse of power: “I scream!”

Jim Treacher on June 30, 2009 at 7:24 PM

technopeasant:

I think Rush was joking.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Have we ever had a president who openly stated they were constrained by the constitution?

fourdeucer on June 30, 2009 at 7:24 PM

No, I don’t see this happening. The United States has managed to get through two world wars, a civil war, a great depression without turning into a banana republic. I don’t see that happening now.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:17 PM

Don’t be so sure of that.

The difference this time is that we have a politically and economically illiterate electorate who want their entitlements, real or imagined, and they want them NOW! Too many of them will sell their souls right now for free house, free car, free gas, and free everything else, courtesy of the U.S. government.

newton on June 30, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Have we ever had a president who openly stated they were constrained by the constitution?

fourdeucer on June 30, 2009 at 7:24 PM

FDR praised other models… I think Wilson did too…

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 7:26 PM

fourdeucer on June 30, 2009

Rush’s point was that all those things you mentioned were mere fiction not that long ago. Now they have happened and we are standing around gobsmacked at the realization that what could never be…is.
How much more fictional and impossible is it that Ogabe could devise some means to circumvent or override the 22nd Amendment by some extraconstitutional action? Just because we don’t see how it could be done doesn’t mean it’s not in the realm of the possible. The filthy, lying POS-in-chief is a cancer on this country and needs to be excised.

SKYFOX on June 30, 2009 at 7:26 PM

PUBLIC NOTICE

Ann NY ≠ AnninCA

Loxodonta on June 30, 2009 at 7:27 PM

SouthernGent:

I don’t think so. I can remember hearing the lefties say the same thing about Bush, that he would create some national disaster. I think it sounds paranoid myself.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:03 PM

Yes, which is why I typed it with a hint of sarcasm. However, Bush was not power hungry like Duh One, and Bush wasn’t appointing czars left and right every day.

SouthernGent on June 30, 2009 at 7:29 PM

If Rush is right, he won’t be allowed to publish “See I Told You So: The Sequel.”

aero on June 30, 2009 at 7:29 PM

Loxodonta on June 30, 2009 at 7:27 PM

In a lefty leaning blog, I’ve seen an AnnfromCA… Hmmm…

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 7:29 PM

and Bush wasn’t appointing czars left and right every day.

SouthernGent on June 30, 2009 at 7:29 PM

Although he did appoint too many…

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 7:29 PM

Terrye:

Study the history of Nazi Germany. When Hitler gained power the army was neutral. Then Hitler gradually appointed men who fell in line with him and disposed of those who would not. It all happened in a matter of a few years. Of course he required the military to take a oath to serve him. Obama simply has to psss a law saying the miltiary is at his beck and call and owe him their loyality. Then of course is his proposed civilian army, ACORN, LaRaza, illegal immigrants etc millions of soldiers ready and willing to serve their Messiah as Obama passes laws stripping away all Americans of their guns. Remember Obama doesn’t respect the Constitution.

Terrye, you think this is far-fetched. I suggest you read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer who was an eyewitness to the rise of the Nazi regime and the totalitarian aftermath and destruction it brought along with it.

technopeasant on June 30, 2009 at 7:29 PM

newton:

Oh please. So the position of the right is that the American people are stupid? No wonder we got beat. Come on people, you are acting as if the military will just go along, the courts will just go along and all the people want is free gas because they are lazy and stupid.

Except of course for the people who have seen the light and realize America sucks.

That sounds just as crazy as anything the Truthers said for the last 8 years.

Obama has not been president for 6 months and there are already demonstrations all over the country against his policies. If this keeps up he will not only not be President for life, he won’t win a second term.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:29 PM

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Rush never jokes about the future of our country. Nor his love for it. Rush was not joking.

BetseyRoss on June 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM

I don’t see Obama’s suspension of the Constitution as farfetched at all. His administration has arbitrarily fired three IGs, not following the law that he himself had crafted. Obama is surrounded by a phalanx of unelected czars with executive powers, yet they are not answerable to Congress nor the American voter. He was quick to sign a number of Executive Orders shortly after his inauguration.

Obama has an incurious media and either a enabling or a cowed Congress that does not question or contradict him.

A president who wants an equipped and trained civilian corps equal to our military is a dangerous type of leader to dismiss as harmless.

Keeping our liberties demands vigilance. Obama bears watching…not on his orchestrated television extravaganzas but on his behind-the-scenes maneuverings.

onlineanalyst on June 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM

“Prairie Fire” think President Me has read it?

Alinksy rules involve chaos. Looks to me he has a good start on creating a massive load of chaos to be dumped on America.

There is a reason gun, ammo and survival stuff is flying off the shelves. 48 million of us were smart enough to KNOW who it was that got elected.

Stalin seized control, Hitler was elected, and then there is Mussolini.

And here is one thing to ponder, Chavez could want to invade Honduras. This is whack the democratic rules until you have a small cabal that controls the world. Obama is already a member of the cabal. Helping out a bud.

Rush also said today that he did not see evidence people were paying attention, or were becoming politically savvy on the issues. If this was for attention to pay attention. Bravo Rush!

freeus on June 30, 2009 at 7:30 PM

technopeasant:

For Chrisake we are not Nazi Germany. We were not not Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union back before WW2 when people were starving in this country. I know the history of Nazi Germany and I think any comparison of the American people to Nazis is just bizarre.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:31 PM

Question: Has any reporter rung up Colin Powell to ask him what he thinks of Barack’s ‘smart power’ foreign policy? I’m particularly interested in his reaction to Barack siding with the Honduran President just like Comrades Hugo and Fidel.

Also, if this is any consolation, there’s one person standing in the way between any fantasies Barack may have to hold on to power beyond his elected term(s): Hillary.

Buy Danish on June 30, 2009 at 7:32 PM

It is total hubris to imagine that our present form of governance is carved in stone, and that we will never go the way of a Venezuela or Argentina or France or any other nation that has ever graced this earth.

IF, repeat, IF, we had an educated attentive population who voted on issues and candidates based on in-depth research of the issues and the candidates, then, perhaps, we might be sanguine about our being truly unique forever. But, we don’t, we don’t have that educated attentive population, and the demographics are skewing leftward and along other lines as well annually. And, given the past five general elections, those who vote with in-depth understanding of the issues and candidates has waned significantly. Thus, the cool sound bite and the evocative slogan is what wins elections.

Hope and Change? Yes, We Can?

What, precisely, did any of this really mean?

Rush may have been on one of his sardonic raves today…but the underlying message should make all who value our way of governance to stop and listen and then think carefully what Rush was saying.

Will Obama try to pull a Zelaya? Probably not. But, if the circumstances can be brought to bear…would Obama eschew another term beyond 2016? 2020?

If the adoring masses who were swayed by his historic candidacy and his coolness have any say in the matter…such is not an impossibility.

coldwarrior on June 30, 2009 at 7:32 PM

BetsyRoss;

I did not say Rush did not love this country, I said I thought he was joking, he was trying to make a point with a joke.

But if you want to discredit the right and help make people believe that maybe that DHS report was onto something this is the way to do it.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:33 PM

Where do I go to get that ‘Mark of the Beast’ thingy?

cntrlfrk on June 30, 2009 at 7:34 PM

In a lefty leaning blog, I’ve seen an AnnfromCA… Hmmm…

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 7:29 PM

Compare writing styles. As to trolls here, we had a slow period for a while, but it seems the Wicked Witch has released the Flying Monkeis.

Loxodonta on June 30, 2009 at 7:35 PM

coldwarrior:

I agree. That is why the Tea Parties are important. That is why it is important to make our voices heard. But I think that assuming Obama will just ignore an election based on his response to Honduras is over the top. I doubt if Obama even knows what he is talking about in regards to Honduras. He is in way over his head.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:36 PM

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:29 PM

First Rush was NOT joking. He wouid joke about something so consequential.

And listen closely to what Rush is saying. He is not ruling out repealing the 22nd Amendment but also suggesting that Obama might find another way to stay in power beyond 2016.

And you really banking your future on your suggestion that Rush was joking?

What if he wasn’t Terrye? Remember Rush is right 99.1% of the time. Are you willing to bet he is wrong here?

technopeasant on June 30, 2009 at 7:36 PM

I just read Amity Shlae’s book on the Great Depression, the Forgotten Man. And nothing Obama has done can begin to compare to the kind of changes that FDR brought to this country.

He’s already surpassed FDR on many fronts. Of course, FDR stayed in the office for a lifetime …

And he had people in his administration that were every bit as radical in their time as Obama is in his.

Not true America-haters, like those around The Precedent. There is a real difference. Don’t kid yourself. The US has never seen people like the lunatics in this junta of the White House and Congress. Many of these people actually HATE the US. You have to understand this.

As for the 1000 page bill no one read, I think the same thing could be said about a lot of bills.

No. And I am not one who thinks that legislators must actually read every bill. They can’t. But every bill must be around long enough for others to read through it and inform the legislators on what is really going on with it. Putting a 300 page amendment in at 3am and having the vote that day is just totally beyond reason, and I can’t even imagine how that is legal. It boggles my mind. But these fools are PROUD to yell about how they rammed this through. You are not paying close attention to what that really indicates.

In fact if I remember correctly the same thing was said about the farm bill Bush vetoed and the Congress passed on over ride.

What I said above.

I also think that most Americans love this country and are proud of it.

Not the 53% who voted to kill it. That’s a lot of people.

They do not want to secede and become {as Lincoln said} petty principalities…nor would they just over look the complete abandonment of our system of government.

I am talking about preserving the American system of government, which is currently being destroyed. You don’t seem to get this, or just refuse to allow yourself to acknowledge it.

You over estimate Obama and you underestimate this country.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:22 PM

I have been shocked by the idiocy that this country is capable of. There is no question about that.

I don’t overestimate The Precedent. He is a borderline retard. But fomenting chaos and destruction is an easy job. It is order and growth that is difficult. The bills flying through Congress are chaos and destruction. Plain and simple. The rest of The Precedent’s policies are even worse.

progressoverpeace on June 30, 2009 at 7:36 PM

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:33 PM

Wrong again, Terrye. You are starting to be the joke here. Rush does not joke about things that are this serious.

BetseyRoss on June 30, 2009 at 7:36 PM

So, is the military just going to pretend they don’t notice?

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:37 PM

nor would they [the American people] just over look the complete abandonment of our system of government

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:22 PM

They already have overlooked an absolutely unprecedented level of government overreach, law-breaking, and unconstitutional actions by this administration. They have already overlooked a quadrupling of the already record-setting 2008 deficit — to a mindboggling, ruinous, absolutely unsustainable level. They have already overlooked a frightening weakening of American influence (economic and military) in the world. And that’s just the first six months. And they still love the guy!

I’d love to agree with you that this sounds insane. It did sound insane coming from the Bush-haters on the left, and from the Clinton-haters on the right. But I’m really not so sure it’s insane anymore when it applies to this administration and the mind-numbed voters of today. I think Obama’s hesitation to support Iranian freedom-fighters and his eagerness to condemn Honduran constitutionalists speaks volumes about where his head is on this issue.

aero on June 30, 2009 at 7:38 PM

BetsyRoss:

So, Rush never uses sardonic humor to make a point? I don’t know..I think he has.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:39 PM

My last comment on this is that Obama has seen the failures of FDR, the war on poverty, the great society and still,still will not take heed.
Now back to my regularly scheduled reading of the the best blog on the net.Hot Air

fourdeucer on June 30, 2009 at 7:39 PM

Rush is using fear to gin up the base.

He doesn’t need to people are plenty fried by the spend and tax democrats.

Dr Evil on June 30, 2009 at 7:39 PM

Terrye:

Germany was not Nazi Germany before it became Nazi Germany either. Read your history. It was the democratic Weimar republic. Germany was a country of culture and revered scholars and the home of Beethoven, Wagner and Bismarck. Terrye, things change. Nothing is a given.

technopeasant on June 30, 2009 at 7:41 PM

More hysteria from the far-right. Next.

dcwvu on June 30, 2009 at 6:14 PM

Thanks for sharing that, kid.

You obviously were out of town when all your fellow Leftists accused Chimpy of trying to do the exact same thing…I did a Google search and got over 10 thousand hits.

You know, when I heard about this, the first thing that popped into my mind was the April Fools joke that was circulating around last month, about Cheney challenging the 22nd Amendment (presidential term limits).

I actually checked out snopes.com to see if this Presidential Directive was fake before I went to the White House’s web site to read the text of it.

Now my question is — why isn’t Congress raising holy heck over this?

A Republican acquaintance of mine tried to dismiss my concern as an overreaction, saying it’s only for “extreme circumstances, like if terrorists attacked the Capitol while Congress was in session.” But the way this plan is worded it could include a situation like Katrina (and we’re entering hurricane season) or other natural disasters.

In other words, in case of just about any emergency, Bush could finally get his December 2000 wish — remember when he said, “If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.”

The complete text of the plan (it’s seven pages long and is written in excruciating legal-ese) is on the White House website. If you think I’m over-reacting, I dare you to read it.

It’s not just “grounds for impeachment” (there are already acres and acres of grounds for impeachment). This is grounds to arrest and prosecute the President.

Del Dolemonte on June 30, 2009 at 7:41 PM

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:39 PM

He absolutely does. I agree. But this was not a point that needed humor. He was as serious as a heart attack.

BetseyRoss on June 30, 2009 at 7:41 PM

Rush is using fear to gin up the base.

Dr Evil on June 30, 2009

All you have to do to be fearful is look around.

JellyToast on June 30, 2009 at 7:42 PM

aero:

It is not unprecedented. This is not as much an over reach as the New Deal was.

And you know are not talking about over spending or anything of that kind. The American people can change a lot of that with an election.

You are talking about all parts of the government from the Governors to the military leaders who took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution just looking the other way because Obama said so.

And people base this belief on Obama’s expansion of the federal government thus far.

I am sorry, I think this is a reach.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:42 PM

Obama will do two things…he will push well beyond the boundaries when he knows he can, and he will offer up trial balloons, ready to place blame for failure on anyone else but his Administration should the trial balloon fail to launch.

The rest is mere details.

coldwarrior on June 30, 2009 at 6:30 PM

Yes! Remember that his mesmerizing campaign slogan was “Yes, we can!” and his zombies readily agreed.

onlineanalyst on June 30, 2009 at 7:44 PM

If all of that’s true and a backlash to Hopenchange is inevitable, how is Barry O planning to get a constitutional amendment passed before 2016?

Okay, AP, work with me on this… it’s really easy, and it is spelled out quite clearly in the Cloward-Piven strategy.

Obama goes crazy with spending and taxes.

Economy collapses, dollar collapses and is virtually worthless, record unemployment.

This is a crisis heretofore unknown to the USA.

For our benefit, Obama calls off elections so that the country won’t be in turmoil during a transition. This is how he establishes himself as president for life.

(He hopes) people allow him to get away with it because they’ll accept just about anything to make the pain stop.

Okay? It has nothing to do with legitimate elections. If there IS a next election, the next election will be the last one if Obama wins, and he MAY win simply by skewing the results with his Census, ACORN, and other cheating methods.

Daggett on June 30, 2009 at 7:44 PM

BetsyRoss;

I think Rush is jumping the gun here.

I think it will only be used to make headlines for him and make Republicans look paranoid.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:44 PM

More hysteria from the far-right. Next.

dcwvu on June 30, 2009 at 6:14 PM

Wow, if we are far right, I wonder what Satan is…

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 7:45 PM

I have to say I really admire Rush and these other talk radio guys so much. Rush is really laying it all on the line. If I were him,, I would be so tempted to just go buy an island somewhere and be done with it.
God bless him and Hannty too.

JellyToast on June 30, 2009 at 7:46 PM

Daggett:

Oh come on. When was an election ever called off in this country? We had an election in the middle of a civil war.

This is all supposition and what ifs.

Gee, what if an asteroid hits Siberia and triggers an extinction level event?

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:47 PM

There are too many patriots to allow that to happen.

SteveMG on June 30, 2009 at 6:29 PM

You have forgotten that Janet Napolitano has a list of “enemies of the State.”

onlineanalyst on June 30, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Monkei….have you always been this simple and immature?

CWforFreedom on June 30, 2009 at 6:41 PM

No, Bubbles was funnier when she was on Captain’s Quarters.

Del Dolemonte on June 30, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Okay, are we supposed to believe that our military, the same military that takes an oath to protect and defend would just turn on us? Isn’t that kind of a crappy way to look at those soldiers? What about the Governors and state legislatures? The Supreme Court?

No, I don’t see this happening. The United States has managed to get through two world wars, a civil war, a great depression without turning into a banana republic. I don’t see that happening now.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:17 PM

We became a “banana republic” at Waco.

Jeff from WI on June 30, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:44 PM

All I can say is don’t doubt him. I think we are beyond the time when Republicans look paranoid. My fear is that they will sit on their asses waiting for something really bad when “really bad” is already here and there won’t be anything to do except to accept it or violence.

BetseyRoss on June 30, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Wow, if we are far right, I wonder what Satan is…

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 7:45 PM

Satan, Obama to his American followers, is far left.

Jeff from WI on June 30, 2009 at 7:50 PM

progressoverpeace on June 30, 2009 at 7:21 PM

I see.

While it may be prudent to explicitly disqualify dual-citizens from the Presidency, the phrase ‘natural-born’ is what it is. I think you’re reading more into the phrase ‘natural-born’ because whereas you view it as status, I view it as fact.

As you say though, the precise interpretation may be up to SCOTUS or, I would add, Congress.

ConScribe on June 30, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Satan, Obama to his American followers, is far left.

Jeff from WI on June 30, 2009 at 7:50 PM

B-b-but that can’t be… Cuz kiddy p0rn guys, that hate neo-con Juice and Fox News are Far Right…

In fairness, does this mean that Rush Limbaugh is a pastel Conservative?

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 7:52 PM

I think Rush is jumping the gun here.

I think it will only be used to make headlines for him and make Republicans look paranoid.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:44 PM

Perhaps, but what do you make of Rep. José Serrano (D-NY) and his bill to repeal the 22nd Amendment? H. J. RES. 5

Loxodonta on June 30, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Satan, Obama to his American followers, is far left.
Jeff from WI on June 30, 2009 at 7:50 PM

Heh. Saul Alinsky did dedicate Rules for Radicals to Lucifer.

Buy Danish on June 30, 2009 at 7:56 PM

For Chrisake we are not Nazi Germany.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:31 PM

Would you believe… Weimar Republic?

petefrt on June 30, 2009 at 7:56 PM

B-b-but that can’t be… Cuz kiddy p0rn guys, that hate neo-con Juice and Fox News are Far Right…

In fairness, does this mean that Rush Limbaugh is a pastel Conservative?

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Huh..Welcome to our country. Your English is starting to improve. I almost understand you.

Jeff from WI on June 30, 2009 at 7:57 PM

Terrye:

You’re confident that the American people and the military would not “look the other way,” and you’re right to some degree. Right now, this moment, there is a huge portion of the population (including us) that is not “looking the other way” regarding the Obama administration’s overreach and cataclysmic spending — but it’s not stopping the juggernaut. We’re mostly just bitching about it on the internet; we’re not actually stopping it. We’ll go vote in 2010, but it’s still a long shot that we’ll be able to stop it that way, either. You have great faith, which I unfortunately don’t share due to the demonstrated passivity and gullibility of our population, that the American people would demand that our military pull Obama out of the White House in his pajamas if he simply refused to leave office. Because if the numbers don’t change in Congress, and if just one of our conservative SC justices dies in the next few years (Heaven forbid) and the balance of the Court changes, we won’t have the advantage that Honduras had of the other two branches of government uniting to stop the executive from making a power grab by ordering the military to arrest the President. We, the people, would have to ask the military directly to defy the Commander in Chief. Many (most?) of them would take action in the case of the President overtly defying the Constitution, but a significant number of them would likely be torn and would not be comfortable taking such action without Congressional or Court authority. If Obama actually implements his idea of a domestic civilian force, it makes it even harder for the real military to take action, as they’d have to shoot American civilians in order to oust the executive — in other words, civil war.

aero on June 30, 2009 at 7:57 PM

Heh. Saul Alinsky did dedicate Rules for Radicals to Lucifer.

Buy Danish on June 30, 2009 at 7:56 PM

Was there any doubt?

Jeff from WI on June 30, 2009 at 7:57 PM

While it may be prudent to explicitly disqualify dual-citizens from the Presidency, the phrase ‘natural-born’ is what it is.

ConScribe on June 30, 2009 at 7:52 PM

There was no such thing as an American dual-citizen back when the clause was written, but the Founders were very explicit about divided allegiances. Original intent would lead to my interpretation, for the reasons I stated.

I’m open to other interpretations, but all that I have seen allow for such strange scenarios with Presidents that I could not accept them (as I started with the simple idea of a dual/multiple-citizen President being clearly insane).

progressoverpeace on June 30, 2009 at 7:57 PM

Loxodonta:

If I remember correctly this is not the first time such an attempt has been made to repel the 22nd amendment.

Do not misunderstand me. I think that if Obama and his minions thought they had a shot at actually repealing the amendment they would do it. I do think the bar is too high even for Obama. It is very difficult to repeal an amendment.

I just do not think that Obama is going to ignore an election and refuse to leave office. And I do not think that the American people will ignore it, or that our military will ignore it either. I think that is going too far. I could be wrong, but I just don’t see that.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:58 PM

everything he’s done has been out of Castro/Chavez playbook so far. Is this really that hard to think of.

What happens if he loses the first term, will he leave office.

There is one thing that the U.S. has never had that other countries have…a dictator.
We’re about due.

Pcoop on June 30, 2009 at 7:59 PM

petefrt:

No, we are not the Weimer Republic either. We are the United States of America. And I still have faith in that.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:59 PM

No, we are not the Weimer Republic either. We are the United States of America. And I still have faith in that.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:59 PM

Perhaps if you cut off the crust of America…

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 8:00 PM

As to trolls here, we had a slow period for a while, but it seems the Wicked Witch has released the Flying Monkeis.

Loxodonta on June 30, 2009 at 7:35 PM

Interesting, isn’t it, how you can gauge the sensitivity/vulnerability of the leftists on an issue by the quantity of trolls it generates.

petefrt on June 30, 2009 at 8:00 PM

Pcoop:

What do you mean will he leave office? What will he do? Lock himself in the Oval Office and refuse to leave?

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 8:01 PM

Connect the dots.

Keep an eye on that 2nd amendment.
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SCOTUS nominations should also be a concern.
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Who knew or who could have predicted a year ago that the progressive movement of nationalization of the private sector.
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The steps toward a soft tyranny can lead to outright tyranny. It is an incremental process. Some governments are conquered form external forces but America can only be overthrown from within.
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All the ingredients are there.
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The possibilty of a catastrophic event followed by disarray and chaos. Marshall law………etc
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Think about the possibility of the repeal of the 22nd amendment.
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Something like that needs a plan designed first.
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Implementation by smoke and mirrors, distracting the population……..etc
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It could work.

Americannodash on June 30, 2009 at 8:01 PM

What will he do? Lock himself in the Oval Office and refuse to leave?

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 8:01 PM

Ha… sounds like South Park.

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 8:02 PM

I should have said...What do you mean? He will refuse to leave office.

Sometimes my fingers are faster than my brain. Must be the wine.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 8:02 PM

Upstater:

Yes, it does sound like South Park.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 8:03 PM

OK, OT (kinda), but did you see how Palin smacked down Pantywaste in Chief?

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 8:03 PM

It is not unprecedented. This is not as much an over reach as the New Deal was.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:42 PM

Okay, I’ll concede the point. Obama has not YET overreached to the same degree as FDR in terms of transforming the American economy. If both cap & trade and health care “reform” succeed, though, Obama will easily surpass FDR in that department as well. He has already spent far more than FDR, though, and in less than 6 months! Compared to, what, 4 terms in office for FDR?

aero on June 30, 2009 at 8:05 PM

Oh come on. When was an election ever called off in this country?

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:47 PM

When has the government ever taken over car companies?

Your point is what? That because it wasn’t done before in a time of civil war, it can’t be done now? We didn’t have a narcissistic, socialist, fascist, megalomaniac for a president then, either.

Obama is a president TRAINED to seize power however possible. That’s the Saul Alinsky way and the Cloward-Piven way. Obama has so many ties to Alinksy, Piven, and all the branches from there (ACORN, George Soros, etc.) that anyone who ignores these connections and the logical conclusions deserves what he/she gets.

Daggett on June 30, 2009 at 8:06 PM

Upstater:

I refuse to believe that Americans will just forget who they are. I also refuse to believe that the men and women of our armed forces will ignore that oath that took. I don’t think that men like my Governor here in Indiana will pretend that all is well if Obama or any other president just chose to ignore the transition of power.

I am not saying that Obama is not a demagogue, he is. In fact I think he is downright strange. But we have survived strange presidents before with the Constitution intact.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 8:06 PM

What will he do? Lock himself in the Oval Office and refuse to leave?

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 8:01 PM

That sort of stuff happens, Terrye. It might sound silly to you, but it is how things go, ocassionally. And he would lock himself in White House, not the Oval Office.

I don’t know why you try and act as if something like this happening is impossible. Read some history. Sh!t, just go read the other Hotair post, TODAY, about the New York Senate and what the Dems did there!

progressoverpeace on June 30, 2009 at 8:07 PM

I think Obama’s hesitation to support Iranian freedom-fighters and his eagerness to condemn Honduran constitutionalists speaks volumes about where his head is on this issue.

aero on June 30, 2009 at 7:38 PM

i am inclined to agree.

homesickamerican on June 30, 2009 at 8:08 PM

I refuse to believe that Americans will just forget who they are. I also refuse to believe that the men and women of our armed forces will ignore that oath that took. I don’t think that men like my Governor here in Indiana will pretend that all is well if Obama or any other president just chose to ignore the transition of power.

I am not saying that Obama is not a demagogue, he is. In fact I think he is downright strange. But we have survived strange presidents before with the Constitution intact.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 8:06 PM

I’d agree with you if you said a large portion of Americans. I’ve met plenty of Americans that have forgotten who/what they are. I suspect you have too.

Upstater85 on June 30, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Dagget:

There is a big difference between taking over a car company and calling off an election.

BTW, FDR very nearly nationalized utility companies in this country.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 8:08 PM

BTW, FDR very nearly nationalized utility companies in this country.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 8:08 PM

FDR was no Obama.

I hope I’m wrong, but I’ll gladly accept your apology when it shakes out the way I predict.

Daggett on June 30, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Upstater:

They remembered when they saw those planes fly into those buildings and they will remember again if someone tries to call off an election or refuses to leave office when the election is over.

I know a lot of people who voted for Obama not because they hated this country, but because he was the Democrat and they vote for Democrats. That might be stupid, but it is not treason and it does not mean they do not love this country.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 8:10 PM

I just do not think that Obama is going to ignore an election and refuse to leave office… I could be wrong, but I just don’t see that.

Terrye on June 30, 2009 at 7:58 PM

At the moment, I don’t see that either. However, since taking office, Obama’s words and deeds have been very distressing and I don’t know that I can be surprised anymore by what he does. And perhaps Rush wants to remind people how far Obama could go.

That said, I believe it is most effective for us to focus on what Obama and the leftists in Congress have said and done, their measurable impact here and abroad, and how to elect enough anti-leftist candidates to Congress in 2010 to reduce further damage. That will require a lot of strategizing and team-building.

Loxodonta on June 30, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Rush was making a not-so-subtle point about BHO’s reaction to Honduras…

mjbrooks3 on June 30, 2009 at 8:10 PM

ALLAHPUNDIT you right of center types generally don’t get Rush. But I have to tell you, he is usually spot on in his observations and instincts. The Republicans would do well to listen to him.

paraff on June 30, 2009 at 8:11 PM

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