Iranian mullahs: We’ll assume protests will be violent from now on

posted at 9:28 am on June 30, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

After completing its recount and declaring Mahmoud Ahmadinejad its winner, again, the ruling mullahs had a piece of advice for Iranians protesting in the street.  Any further disturbances would prove the violent nature of the protesters, and the regime will act accordingly:

A senior hardline Iranian cleric Tuesday demanded an end to protests over the re-election of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as president after Iran’s top legislative body slammed shut the last door for a legal challenge. …

“The Guardian Council is the only legal reference in the election and therefore it seems the issue of protests against the presidential election is over,” said Ahmad Khatami, a cleric who called Friday for leading “rioters” to be executed.

“All who believe in the Islamic system and are committed to its laws and regulations must accept the Guardian Council’s opinion,” he said, the semi-official Fars news agency reported.

“If some people still oppose the Guardian Council’s decision it means opposing the law and it shows that these people do not want to move forward within legal channels and they would like to achieve their aims by force,” Khatami said.

If the protesters are the ones who are violent, then why are the protesters taking all the casualties?  The show of force on the streets came from the regime’s brownshirts, the Basij, a million-strong group of irregulars who act at the behest of the Guardian Council.  They went into the streets, beating people for just gathering in groups as a means of terrorizing Iranians into silence.

Mirhossein Mousavi has to decide whether he wants to keep leading this movement.  After the Guardian Council shocked the world by reaffirming the previously designated “divine” result of Ahmadinehad’s win, Mousavi repeated his demand that the election be nullified and a new election conducted.  However, he’s out of options in working with the ruling class in Iran.  There are no more legal appeals within the regime to force reconsideration of the results.  On the other hand, Mousavi has probably burned all his bridges with the mullahs now.  He’s a man with few options and a dim future as long as the current Guardian Council runs Iran.

Mousavi claims that he has evolved from Che Guevara to Mohandas Gandhi, but we will see shortly whether he has Gandhi’s perserverance.  Organizers of the protests threatened to call general strikes to pressure the regime to change.  That may be their best option in order to avoid the brutality of the Basij and the Revolutionary Guard, but still demonstrate that the mullahs have lost any legitimacy with the people they rule.

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If the protesters are the ones who are violent, then why are the protesters taking all the casualties?

+1000

unclesmrgol on June 30, 2009 at 9:32 AM

Would now be a good time to cue the gun-running ops?

bluelightbrigade on June 30, 2009 at 9:32 AM

On the other hand, Mousavi has probably burned all his bridges with the mullahs now. He’s a man with few options and a dim future as long as the current Guardian Council runs Iran.

I’m sure his days are numbered.

Disturb the Universe on June 30, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Tyranny 101.

the_nile on June 30, 2009 at 9:37 AM

Now that the election is declared legit, Barack can practice his bow to Khameni

DamnYankee on June 30, 2009 at 9:39 AM

The defining difference between Mousavi and Gandhi is – Gandhi wasn’t hanged.

OldEnglish on June 30, 2009 at 9:40 AM

Mousavi claims that he has evolved from Che Guevara to Mohandas Gandhi, but we will see shortly whether he has Gandhi’s perserverance.

Like Che he has become inconvenient to his masters. He won’t last long.

Disturb the Universe on June 30, 2009 at 9:40 AM

“If some people still oppose the Guardian Council’s decision it means opposing the law and it shows that these people do not want to move forward within legal channels and they would like to achieve their aims by force,” Khatami said.

Without a hint of irony, no doubt.

Tonus on June 30, 2009 at 9:41 AM

man oh man, oboobi’s gotta be green with envy,this is international thugery at it’s best. you just know he’s takeing notes for 2112…

SHARPTOOTH on June 30, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Now that the election is declared legit, Barack can practice his bow to Khameni

DamnYankee on June 30, 2009 at 9:39 AM

I thought he did that already by denouncing the coup in Honduras?

bluelightbrigade on June 30, 2009 at 9:41 AM

If the protesters are the ones who are violent, then why are the protesters taking all the casualties?

Because it is rocks and Molotov cocktails vs AK-47s and hand grenades. If a revolution should happen here, 0bama’s brown shirts will find an significantly more well armed response. This is why the 2nd Amendment exists.

Wolftech on June 30, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Meddling in Iran — Bad.
Meddling in Honduras — Good.
Power to Chavismo.

petefrt on June 30, 2009 at 9:45 AM

petefrt on June 30, 2009 at 9:45 AM

+1

cmsinaz on June 30, 2009 at 9:50 AM

Phew, now that that is settled, Dear Leader can enter into a dialogue with the peace-loving but misunderstood mullahs who are just itching to give up their nuclear weapons program.

PS, I’ve got a nice bridge that I need to sell. Anyone interested? It’s in Brooklyn, NY.

rbj on June 30, 2009 at 9:51 AM

We need to get them some arms pretty quickly.

myrenovations on June 30, 2009 at 9:54 AM

man oh man, oboobi’s gotta be green with envy,this is international thugery at it’s best. you just know he’s takeing notes for 2112…
SHARPTOOTH on June 30, 2009 at 9:41 AM

If Ogabe is still alive and running for office in 2112, I’d say things will REALLY be bad.

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 9:56 AM

I can’t help but think that if “W” was here then he and Israel would quietly make sure the protestors were not the only one’s taking casualties.

HoustonRight on June 30, 2009 at 9:56 AM

I don’t know what they are protesting…they had an “official” recount of the votes and Ineedadinnerjacket won by an even larger margin…

right2bright on June 30, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Official statement from Robert Gibbs:

“The US condemns the violence in Iran and hopes that a peaceful resolution can be found quickly. Violence against the Basij must stop as it is not the answer to this situation.”

Thunderstorm129 on June 30, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Violence against the Basij

Surely he didn’t say that!

HoustonRight on June 30, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Would now be a good time to cue the gun-running ops?

bluelightbrigade on June 30, 2009 at 9:32 AM

+1000

While we’re not meddling, is Honduras still “an illegal coup”?

alliebobbitt on June 30, 2009 at 10:02 AM

While we’re not meddling, is Honduras still “an illegal coup”?

alliebobbitt on June 30, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Absolutely, because both the Honduran legislature & supreme court supported the removal of the president for his illegal actions. Ergo, “illegal”. Just another example of Lefty Logic.

rbj on June 30, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Violence against the Basij

Surely he didn’t say that!

HoustonRight on June 30, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Yes, he did. And don’t call me Shirley. :)

(Ok, no he didn’t but that’s what he’s thinking.)

If Obama-boy ignores Iran but demands a leftist power grab/coup be allowed in Honduras, then you can pretty much assume he’s gonna be on the wrong side of everything. He’s like that annoying kid who says the opposite of whatever you say.

Thunderstorm129 on June 30, 2009 at 10:10 AM

If the protesters are the ones who are violent, then why are the protesters taking all the casualties?

No need to worry about details. Mr. Obama will sit down and have a chat with the government of Iran. They can commiserate how dangerous peaceful protesters violent terrorists can be in both the USA and Iran and swap ideas on how best to take care of the problem.

Miss Molly on June 30, 2009 at 10:11 AM

man oh man, oboobi’s gotta be green with envy,this is international thugery at it’s best. you just know he’s takeing notes for 2112…

SHARPTOOTH on June 30, 2009 at 9:41 AM
I think Obama has the same instinctive traits as the mullahs
we saw how he reacted to the tea parties. Any challenge to his agenda is met with scorn and ridicule. I don’t think he would hesitate for a minute to go postal on Americans.

fourdeucer on June 30, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Would now be a good time to cue the gun-running ops?

bluelightbrigade on June 30, 2009 at 9:32 AM

Absolutely. Hopefully it’s well under way, already. A pistol for every palm.

petefrt on June 30, 2009 at 10:21 AM

A nice synopsis from the Belmont Club. It also contains a link to Spengler at Asia Times on Obama’s grand failure in Iran.
http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/06/30/in-thrall-to-the-bargain/#more-4812

a capella on June 30, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Absolutely. Hopefully it’s well under way, already. A pistol for every palm.

petefrt on June 30, 2009 at 10:21 AM

We just approved your motto for Texas except we added “and a rifle on every shoulder”. Where do we send the check? :)

HoustonRight on June 30, 2009 at 10:25 AM

This is horrifying. In the three years following the Iranian Revolution in 1979, there were 4,400 “officially announced” executions. The Islamic government uses the death penalty as the ultimate terror weapon within Iran’s borders, but executing political prisoners is not the only barbarity used to enforce tyranny. The news we are about to witness coming from Iran is going to be heart-wrenching.

DrMagnolias on June 30, 2009 at 10:32 AM

HoustonRight on June 30, 2009 at 10:25 AM

Texas is a great state. The spirit of Texas is our hope.

petefrt on June 30, 2009 at 10:39 AM

What makes people think that OUR government wouldn’t ignore Posse Commitatus and use troops against U.S. citizens if we demonstrated against Obama.

Jeff from WI on June 30, 2009 at 10:44 AM

Jeff from WI on June 30, 2009 at 10:44 AM

I beleive that people do think they would try!

HoustonRight on June 30, 2009 at 10:49 AM

A single statement of encouragement for the protesters and a single statement of condemnation against the mullahtocracy by a US President with a backbone would turn the tide in Iran in 48 hours. Reagan would have done so on the first day. So would that “Evil Boooosh.”

The silence from the White House is killing people.

coldwarrior on June 30, 2009 at 10:50 AM

What makes people think that OUR government wouldn’t ignore Posse Commitatus and use troops against U.S. citizens if we demonstrated against Obama.

Jeff from WI on June 30, 2009 at 10:44 AM

That’s an all or nothing throw down. If the military doesn’t support him when he tries that, he’s cooked. He’s aware he isn’t liked or trusted by the military. A better bet would be the use of his civilian brownshirt corps, but he doesn’t have enough time to get that thing up and running efficiently, plus our protesting civilians would mop the floor with them.

a capella on June 30, 2009 at 10:52 AM

That’s an all or nothing throw down. If the military doesn’t support him when he tries that, he’s cooked. He’s aware he isn’t liked or trusted by the military. A better bet would be the use of his civilian brownshirt corps, but he doesn’t have enough time to get that thing up and running efficiently, plus our protesting civilians would mop the floor with them.

a capella on June 30, 2009 at 10:52 AM

THe one thing saving us is the fact that those clinging to their guns and bibles, as well stocked with ammo.

Jeff from WI on June 30, 2009 at 10:55 AM

If Ogabe is still alive and running for office in 2112, I’d say things will REALLY be bad.
Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Like you never heard of cloning?

Friendly21 on June 30, 2009 at 11:00 AM

Three Words for the Mullahs: We shall overcome.

KillerKane on June 30, 2009 at 11:03 AM

As horrible as you might think this is, just imagine what Obama and everybody in the liberal media are thinking right now:

Finally, this distraction is over and we can get back to work!

logis on June 30, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Do you think Chavez is right when he said that Honduran thingie was orchestrated by the US?

Iran slips off the radar because of Jacko, then Honduras comes along, conveniently, and Iran cannot be found anywhere in the major media all of sudden.

Coincidence? /s

coldwarrior on June 30, 2009 at 11:13 AM

coldwarrior on June 30, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Good grief! You’re more devious than I am! :)

OldEnglish on June 30, 2009 at 11:36 AM

OldEnglish on June 30, 2009 at 11:36 AM

To borrow a phrase from Montgomery Burns, “I like the cut of your jib.” :-)

coldwarrior on June 30, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Obama creates a deadly power vacuum
By Spengler

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF30Ak02.html

elduende on June 30, 2009 at 12:05 PM

There’s a joke about a man who tells a psychiatrist, “Everybody hates me,” to which the psychiatrist responds, “That’s ridiculous – everyone doesn’t know you, yet.” Which brings me to Barack Obama: one of the best-informed people in the American security establishment told me the other day that the president is a “Manchurian Candidate”.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF30Ak02.html

elduende on June 30, 2009 at 12:06 PM

I can’t help but think that if “W” was here then he and Israel would quietly make sure the protestors were not the only one’s taking casualties.

HoustonRight on June 30, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Yep, because that is exactly what we need right now, ANOTHER war.

Why don’t you just call for World War Three already? We’ll let the nukes fly, kill 98% of everyone on the planet and call the remaining 2% the “Mission Accomplished” part of the population.

And you guys think you have everything cooking up for 2010 and 2012.

But keep it up guys. You’re doing great! More cries about socialism, war, and anti-empathy.

More of everything! Keep going!

ckoeber on June 30, 2009 at 12:15 PM

We’ll let the nukes fly, kill 98% of everyone on the planet and call the remaining 2% the “Mission Accomplished” part of the population.
ckoeber on June 30, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Psycho Moonbats: the voice of reason in an uncaring world!

logis on June 30, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Psycho Moonbats: the voice of reason in an uncaring world!

logis on June 30, 2009 at 12:18 PM

Sure, while you call for intervention in Iran.

Yep, you’re the reasonable and sane ones.

ckoeber on June 30, 2009 at 12:22 PM

There’s a joke about a man who tells a psychiatrist, “Everybody hates me,” to which the psychiatrist responds, “That’s ridiculous – everyone doesn’t know you, yet.” Which brings me to Barack Obama: one of the best-informed people in the American security establishment told me the other day that the president is a “Manchurian Candidate”.

I called him that 6 months before the election and was attacked for it….LOL..but it was true!

Jeff from WI on June 30, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Which brings me to Barack Obama: one of the best-informed people in the American security establishment told me the other day that the president is a “Manchurian Candidate”.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF30Ak02.html

elduende on June 30, 2009 at 12:06 PM

That article brings up an important point: What does Obama plan to do about the military? There’re never going to buy off on the second round of his “restructuring” plan.

I don’t see Obama as having anything like Stalin’s organizational skill; so a massive officer purge is probably out of the question.

I think that after the economic collapse, he’ll completely disband the military as “an expense we can no longer afford.” Then replace it with that shadow military he talked about during the campaign. He’ll kinda sorta claim it has something to do with border security, but it’ll be set up as his own personal Praetorian Guard.

logis on June 30, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Yep, because that is exactly what we need right now, ANOTHER war.

ckoeber on June 30, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Central America would be a good place to start. We can overthrow the Supreme Court and National Legislature of a country, violate their constitution, and install a wise Latino who, like Fidel and Hugo, would make better decisions than any Rethuglican. Yes we can!

Loxodonta on June 30, 2009 at 12:36 PM

ckoeber on June 30, 2009 at 12:22 PM

ps: BOOOSH!

Loxodonta on June 30, 2009 at 12:38 PM

What’s happening in Iran is generational. The yoots are doing exactly what the Boomer yoots did in the 60′s and 70′s and the Iranian elders are doing just what the American elders did in the 60′s and 70′s. Iran, along with Iraq, are both going through Awakenings. Expect a lot more of this in the future.

Weebork on June 30, 2009 at 12:42 PM

logis on June 30, 2009 at 12:33 PM

That won’t happen. The military is restive already. He’ll fail or be failed.

elduende on June 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Jeff from WI on June 30, 2009 at 12:24 PM

I did too! Folks are waking up.

elduende on June 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM

That won’t happen. The military is restive already. He’ll fail or be failed.
elduende on June 30, 2009 at 12:54 PM

I said “disband”, but what I really meant was that after the collapse, Obama will “de-fund” the military – and the Democrats in Congress will gleefully help him do it. And when he turns around and asks for a trillion dollars to fund his “Citizen Corps”, I suspect that more than a few RINOS will join in in the name of patriotism.

It’s boiling the frog. Would the American military revolt at the “innocent” act of cutting their purse strings? I doubt it. Technically, that’s one of the very few parts of the Revolution that won’t be overtly un-Constitutional.

logis on June 30, 2009 at 1:18 PM

ps: BOOOSH!

Loxodonta on June 30, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Took you all of twenty minutes to come up with that.

Good Job. I’ll mail you some formula for your good work today.

But keep going!

Aren’t you going to talk about socialism and how great our healthcare system is now and how we need to invade a few more countries?

ckoeber on June 30, 2009 at 1:19 PM

I’ll mail you some formula for your good work today.

ckoeber on June 30, 2009 at 1:19 PM

No need. Just post the link for your White House employer.

Loxodonta on June 30, 2009 at 1:22 PM

ckoeber,

If someone, say, for example, President Asif Ali Zardari out in Pakistan, decided to ignore the Pakistani Constitution, and the Pakistani Congress, and the Pakistani Supreme Court, and declared himself President for Life…should the United States as a matter of national policy give him support?

coldwarrior on June 30, 2009 at 1:33 PM

Any country that has national health care has an eviscerated military as they choose to fund health care through abdication of their national security obligations. Even in the US in states with massive health care costs, the first things that are threatened to pay for the spending are first responders, police, firefighters and emts.
I didn’t believe that in three weeks Obama could go any lower than he had on Iran, but with his attempt to prevent the lawful execution of an Honduran Supreme Court order and his attempt to reinstall a leftwing despot in office, he is truly reaching the bottom of the barrel. Somewhere Dhjimmi Carter is smiling. I would expect in the next round of polling that democraps will make up sixty percent of the respondents, independents thirty percent and repubs ten percent. It will be the only way to keep Obama’s numbers above fifty percent.

eaglewingz08 on June 30, 2009 at 2:39 PM

Meanwhile, across the border, in Iraq…they are sooo screwed.

Joe Biden has been designated to oversee “political reconciliation within Iraq” by the White House.

Yep. The same numb nuts who wanted to partition Iraq into three or more separate countries is now going to oversee Iraqi “reconciliation.”

This should be, umm, interesting?

coldwarrior on June 30, 2009 at 3:25 PM

Loose the Mujahadeen Khalq

KW64 on June 30, 2009 at 3:29 PM

Mullahs and streetlamps.

Ayatollahs and construction cranes.

Hang the weasels out to dry

and Liberty will reify.

profitsbeard on June 30, 2009 at 7:59 PM