Breaking: Say hello to Senator Al Franken; Update: Coleman concedes

posted at 2:35 pm on June 30, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

To no one’s great shock, the Minnesota Supreme Court has rejected Norm Coleman’s appeal of the election contest and awarded the Senate election to Al Franken.  The decision, expected last week, stated that Coleman failed to prove that recounting thousands of rejected ballots would have impacted the final results:

It is U.S. Sen. Al Franken.

The Minnesota Supreme Court today decided that Franken, a Democrat, won the highest number of votes in last year’s U.S. Senate race and deserves a signed election certificate.

The court said that Republican Norm Coleman didn’t prove that a lower court made mistakes requiring a rehearing of the case. Coleman had asked the court to order thousands of rejected absentee ballots counted. He had hoped the counting would allow him to overcome Franken’s 312-vote lead.

As I wrote before, the equal-protection argument Coleman used for this appeal had more chance of success in federal court rather than state court.  The state court kept itself to the issues of state law, rather than the more expansive federal issue of equal treatment of votes.  No one who followed the arguments at the court can be surprised by this decision, which was unanimous.

Coleman could push this into the federal courts, but he has yet to commit to doing so.  Tim Pawlenty indicated that he would follow the state Supreme Court’s direction in handling the election certificate, which means Franken will probably take his seat this week in the Senate.  If Coleman appeals to the federal court, he will have to also deal with Franken’s status as a seated Senator.

My guess — and this is just a guess — is that Coleman will call it a day.  We’ll soon see.

Update: Eric Black reports that the certificate was not specifically ordered.  Hmmm.  That gives Pawlenty an out, if he chooses to wait for a Coleman federal appeal.

Update II: Ignore my original update II.  ABC News sent out an old report, and I didn’t catch it at first.

Update III: Catching this via Twitter from Howard Kurtz — Norm Coleman has conceded.  He wants to focus on fishing more than the governor’s race for now, but I think he decided to stop now to preserve his viability within the state of Minnesota.  Probably not a bad decision for him personally.

Update IV: Coleman’s statement, as provided by his campaign:

“Ours is a government of laws, not men and women.  The Supreme Court of Minnesota has spoken and I respect its decision and will abide by the result.  It’s time for Minnesota to come together under the leaders it has chosen and move forward. I join all Minnesotans in congratulating our newest United States Senator – Al Franken.

“Just a few last words about my legal challenge.  Sure, I wanted to win.  Not just for myself but for my wonderful supporters and the important values I have always fought for.  I also thought it was important to stand up for enfranchising thousands of Minnesotans whose votes weren’t counted like the others were.  After all, issues and politicians come and go, but voting is fundamental.

“It is the essence of democracy so I knew we needed to do everything we could to get it right.

“I am forever grateful and humbled by the people of Minnesota who have given me the honor to represent them – and even more grateful for their wisdom, courage, patience and understanding over these past several months.

“The path that I take in the future is not nearly as important today as the path that we must now — all travel on together — to strengthen our state and our nation.

“I have never believed that my service is irreplaceable.  We have reached the point where further litigation damages the unity of our state, which is also fundamental.  In these tough times, we all need to focus on the future.  And the future today is we have a new United States Senator.

“I congratulate Al Franken and his victory in this election.  He now enjoys the advantage that our Congressional Delegation has over the other 525 people on Capitol Hill: he represents Minnesota.

“I know the great ideas, the amazing work ethic and the historic ability to come together to get things done in this state will help him greatly, as it has me.

“Speaking of which, I think we all should take a moment to thank Amy Klobuchar and her staff.  They have done a great job of carrying the burden of two Senators these last six months.  She is an extraordinary public servant.

“I don’t reach this point with any big regrets.  I ran the campaign I wanted.  I conducted the legal challenge I wanted.  And I have always believed you do the best you can and leave the results up to a higher authority.  I’m at peace with that.  As to my future plans, that’s a subject for another day.

“We live in a great country and a great state.  We can all have confidence that by some path we don’t yet know – one which we can all come together to lay out – we will arrive at the better future we all seek.

“Thank you and may God bless Minnesota and America.”


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*If* universal health care (aka ObamaCare) is passed into law, along with cap and trade, and general amnesty for illegal aliens, I don’t see how we can turn ANY of that around with the current state of the GOP.

In other words, we are humped, perhaps for a few generations. Only this time, the US as we know it will cease to exist. One mere generation away from oblivion, and no, I don’t think I am hyping this out of context.

itzWicks on June 30, 2009 at 4:23 PM

mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:19 PM

Nice try. but your statement was about intent! My gun. Misdirection will not work here.

HoustonRight on June 30, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Obambi can’t rely on the old adage ‘(R)s being the party of No’ anymore

this is all his along with the (D)s….

cmsinaz on June 30, 2009 at 4:25 PM

*If* universal health care (aka ObamaCare) is passed into law, along with cap and trade, and general amnesty for illegal aliens, I don’t see how we can turn ANY of that around with the current state of the GOP.

In other words, we are humped, perhaps for a few generations. Only this time, the US as we know it will cease to exist. One mere generation away from oblivion, and no, I don’t think I am hyping this out of context.

itzWicks on June 30, 2009 at 4:23 PM

I think the nation as we have known it has ceased to exist. Something more sinister is taking its place. When it finally is revealed to the public, it will be something unrecognizable to us.

newton on June 30, 2009 at 4:26 PM

On it’s face, the document doesn’t exclude felons from being in militias. At least I don’t see it.

Are you slow? “A well regulated Militia” – that’s the Constitutional principal at play here. That’s the abstraction of importance. It conceptually covers not only desirable members, but also the method of carriage. The interesting tension in the 2nd Amendment stems from the competition between what constitutes “well regulated” without infringing on the right of the people to keep and bear arms. The vast majority of our ‘gun laws’ fail this tension, and are therefore unconstitutional.

To help clue you up – the Constitution was explicitly not designed to be an exhaustive list of “allow this, forbid that” rules. The 10th Amendment should have alerted you to that.

As for finding the original intent, it’s impossible because it doesn’t exist.

mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Don’t be such a child. Read the [Anti] Federalist papers to supplement your evident lack of education.

LimeyGeek on June 30, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Finally, a Centaur worth 1,000 soundbytes in 2012.

Limerick on June 30, 2009 at 4:27 PM

And yeah, the GOP might as well be dead and buried right now. There is NO WAY in Hell that it can recover from this.

newton on June 30, 2009 at 4:28 PM

Original intent doesn’t exist? So, if I put a gun to your head, pull the trigger, it misfires, I can claim I was just joking around right?

Geez

HoustonRight on June 30, 2009 at 4:17 PM

You could claim you could be joking. You might be considered mentally ill if you were serious about that. Or not. I’m not sure I get your point.

If anything, it’s impossible to be 100% sure what you intent was in something that looks so blatant, so imagine a 200 year old document that is the combined vision of many people.

mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Just curious. Does Minnesota have an unusually high number of special school districts?

Star20 on June 30, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Okay, then shouldn’t that right be independent of physical strength?
Chainsaw56 on June 30, 2009 at 4:21 PM

Not sure what you mean.
mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Firearms are the great equalizer – irregardless of physical strength or skill, not to mention the question whether an attacked is armed with a firearm.

Chainsaw56 on June 30, 2009 at 4:30 PM

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 4:30 PM

To those who are thrilled that Minnesota now has both a fool and a clown for Senator, I have two words, Jesse Ventura.

Broadsword on June 30, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Wait!! Barry and ACORN created another job! Franken’s! 1.6 million lost…1 created!

WhatsRight on June 30, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Okay, then shouldn’t that right be independent of physical strength?
Chainsaw56 on June 30, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Not sure what you mean.

Let’s put that another way – should women have Less of a right to self defense because they are physically disadvantaged in comparison to men?

Chainsaw56 on June 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Al Franken is the titular head of the LibDems.

No, we don’t have a Limbaugh problem. The Libtards have a Franken problem.

Geochelone on June 30, 2009 at 4:33 PM

Firearms are the great equalizer – irregardless of physical strength or skill, not to mention the question whether an attacked is armed with a firearm.

Chainsaw56 on June 30, 2009 at 4:30 PM

Equalizer? Not so sure. But they definitely raise the bar that’s for sure.

I think RPGs would do an even better job at equalizing.

mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM

I don’t think Coleman would have ever prevailed if he kept fighting but the reason a non-rino Republican would keep fighting is so that you don’t make it too damn easy for the Democrats to steal elections every time they feel like it.

Buddahpundit on June 30, 2009 at 4:35 PM

Other nations, lesser nations, have come back from worse, we will too.

It will be an ugly, violent road but literally anything can and probably will act as the spark and then it begins. America is made of stronger stuff than any set of policies enacted by the primates currently infesting our federal government.

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 4:36 PM

mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:29 PM

Well, I guess we’ll just have to disagree on what the definition of “is” is. One of these days I hope you realize that there is a difference between being able to argue a case and choosing a side based on principle. Few attorneys ever do. That’s why as a businessman I will always seek their advise but never let the decsion be up to them.

HoustonRight on June 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Can’t tell you how proud I am to have this tool as a Senator.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r223/PCoop11704/al-franken-sucks-300×237.jpg

I’m as proud as a father who finds out his daughter is a pornstar.

Pcoop on June 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM

I think RPGs would do an even better job at equalizing.

mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM

The very last thing you’re evidently guilty of, is ‘thinking’.

LimeyGeek on June 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Had to pass this on: “Here in D.C., reportedly Mitch McConnell and Jeff Sessions were inconsolable over the news hugging uncontrollably until one thing led to another and, well….you know.”

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM

I think RPGs would do an even better job at equalizing.
mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Then you don’t know your weapons. Any idea why modern armies equip their soldiers with rifles as primary weapons rather than grenade launchers? Any idea at all?

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM

This country is over we will never be able to recover from this or what the dems and Obama and the Rinos are doing.This is war for the soul of this country the Rep are to afraid to say a word.The state run media and sorry to say Fox can,t stop talking about Micheal Jackson.In D.C. you have got 8 Rep traitor selling there soul for a few campain $ and Dems openly calling people who speak out against them terrorist and calling for the removal of the 22 Amed.Some also want all illegals to become legal and able to vote by 2012. GOD SAVE US

thmcbb on June 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM

Any guesses on the first piece of legislation with Frankens name on it?

fourdeucer on June 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM

The grabbers of words and guns can argue and pass laws until they are blue in the face. None of them will stop me from speaking my mind or being capable of fighting back. Chickenhawk? All the grabbers have to do is test it. Am I alone? About as alone as a commuter on an L.A. freeway.

Limerick on June 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM

Look, there should have been a revote. Franken did not get a plurality. In fact, the people of Minnesota voted overwhelmingly conservative/moderate and NOT for liberal Franken. But because of the 3rd candidate, a conservative, who took 15% of the vote, Franken wins by 200 votes?!
.
LET IS BE A LESSON TO OTHER STATES WHO WANT A 3RD PARTY: be sure that your state has a run-off provision, similar to Georgia. If not, start setting one up now.

JeffVader on June 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM

Other nations, lesser nations, have come back from worse, we will too.

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Great gam-gam in Beerfest : “I’ve had all kinds of crap shoved up my ass – I got over it….you will too”

LimeyGeek on June 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Other nations, lesser nations, have come back from worse, we will too.

It will be an ugly, violent road but literally anything can and probably will act as the spark and then it begins. America is made of stronger stuff than any set of policies enacted by the primates currently infesting our federal government.

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 4:36 PM

Remember that it took many of those nations DECADES to recover from their brushes with tyranny.

newton on June 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM

…And now we have another fool on the Hill.

onlineanalyst on June 30, 2009 at 4:42 PM

newton on June 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM

I’d rather take decades righting the ship then manning an oar.

Limerick on June 30, 2009 at 4:43 PM

LimeyGeek on June 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM

I like that shirt that your handle links to.

My girlfriend really got a kick out of it, she is thinking about ordering it.

Joe Caps on June 30, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Equalizer? Not so sure.

mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM

Most people can master the use of a firearm as opposed to bladed weapons, etc.

The don’t require physical strength in use, and the don’t’ require years of training in order to be competent with them.

If one believes that everyone should be equal, then everyone should be equal in the right to defend themselves.

Chainsaw56 on June 30, 2009 at 4:44 PM

Remember that it took many of those nations DECADES to recover from their brushes with tyranny.

newton on June 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM

So long as the tyrants are dead, and the sun shining in my face, I don’t care how long it takes. I’m doing it for my kids and grandkids.

LimeyGeek on June 30, 2009 at 4:45 PM

What an embarrassment for MN. Seriously, Minnesota’s statehood should be revoked, replaced by Guam or the Am. Virgin Islands. The voters of that state are too F’n stoopid to pass as Americans.

Nothing personal, Ed!

james23 on June 30, 2009 at 4:45 PM

You get the government you deserve.

Enjoy it, Minnesota.

Hawkins1701 on June 30, 2009 at 4:47 PM

I’ve never seen such a group of drama queens in my life. Boo hoo hoo the Democrats are in power. Also its kind of disturbing that the first inclination of so many is to pick up a gun.

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 4:47 PM

My girlfriend really got a kick out of it, she is thinking about ordering it.

Joe Caps on June 30, 2009 at 4:44 PM

A woman of taste. Let me know how many people understand it around town ;)

I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve had to explain it.

LimeyGeek on June 30, 2009 at 4:47 PM

Then you don’t know your weapons. Any idea why modern armies equip their soldiers with rifles as primary weapons rather than grenade launchers? Any idea at all?

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM

Depends what I am trying to equalize. With an RPG, you might be able to get the other person while they are in their own house or vehicle, something a gun might not be able to do as easily.

I just think the concept of “equalizing” is a bit weak. But you’re right, it might make sense to sometimes allow weaker people to carry around firearms.

mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:48 PM

don’t worry, Minnesota….you still have Michelle Bachman.It
must be something in the water.I wonder if she can see Canada from her house?

greataunty on June 30, 2009 at 4:48 PM

I’ve never seen such a group of drama queens in my life.
Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 4:47 PM

But I look good in pumps, just ask my wife.

Limerick on June 30, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Minnesota, the most irresponsible state in the nation.

scotash on June 30, 2009 at 4:49 PM

I’ve never seen such a group of drama queens in my life

Were you in a coma for 8 years?

Also its kind of disturbing that the first inclination of so many is to pick up a gun.

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 4:47 PM

I find it encouraging, but I understand that there are many that should be concerned.

LimeyGeek on June 30, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Oh, well. Another example for every political race in the country of a Democrat that we can all laugh at. For all of the astonishment at Mark Sanford, the Democrats have 10 complete clowns for every Sanford, and this dork is the latest.

Own it, DNC.

Jaibones on June 30, 2009 at 4:49 PM

I’ve never seen such a group of drama queens in my life. Boo hoo hoo the Democrats are in power. Also its kind of disturbing that the first inclination of so many is to pick up a gun.

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 4:47 PM

It’s so true. The first inclination is to destroy democracy through violent means. The Iranian mullahs would be pleased.

mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:50 PM

With an RPG, you might be able to get the other person while they are in their own house or vehicle…
mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Yes. RPGs really are useful for eliminating enemy agent transports.

LimeyGeek on June 30, 2009 at 4:50 PM

The first inclination is to destroy democracy through violent means.
mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Nothing wrong in destroying democracy…especially when the cynical abuse/manipulation of it becomes an existential threat to our Constitutional Republic.

LimeyGeek on June 30, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Just another bite off the government crap samich that we conservatives are being force-fed!

Since I can’t decide whom to loath more Franken or Obama I’ll just make it easy on myself and loath my entire government!

Franken…a true unfunny POS!

Liberty or Death on June 30, 2009 at 4:53 PM

hey, minnesota just got AL FRANKEN to represent them in the senate.

minnesotans must be SO PROUD!!!

thedude on June 30, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Remember that it took many of those nations DECADES to recover from their brushes with tyranny.
newton on June 30, 2009 at 4:40 PM

And? In this case it’s not the road taken but the result achieved. If I can’t explain to my kids why I never took a stand then I could never look them in the eye again.

If it takes decades then it takes decades. There are 49 million people who didn’t vote for Mr. Perfect even when the GOP put in an ineffective RINO as their nominee, and you can bet pretty much every last one of those voters is getting the crap scared out of them by Ogabe. How many of the starry-eyed dorks who voted for him are regretting that vote now?

Live on your knees if the time comes, I won’t go so easily.

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Own it, DNC.

Jaibones on June 30, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Exactly. That is what I’ve been saying about this cluster since day one….speak, Frankin, write legislation, get up there on the Hill and tell the Shining City to turn off the damn lights. Not even SNL will book you when the peeps finally run you into Chapter 13, or the swamp.

Limerick on June 30, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Congrats to the fine idiots…er people of Minnesota. You are now officially greater morons that the fine idiots… er people of my home state of California. Nice job!

yobobbyb on June 30, 2009 at 4:55 PM

mycowardice:

Shouldn’t the right of self defense be independent of physical size or skill?

Shouldn’t you be able to use a means to defend yourself that doesn’t require you to be of a certain physical size or skill level with a bladed or some other such weapon.

A weapon that requires years of practice in order to be confident in defending yourself?

Specifically, shouldn’t women and other persons of smaller stature be allowed the right of self defense?

Chainsaw56 on June 30, 2009 at 4:55 PM

I’ve never seen such a group of drama queens in my life. Boo hoo hoo the Democrats are in power. Also its kind of disturbing that the first inclination of so many is to pick up a gun.
Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 4:47 PM

I hear ya. I too was flabbergasted to hear about people threatening to renounce their U.S. citizenship *boo hoo hoo* if Bush won in 2004, or hoping that Dubya would get assassinated by someone, anyone. *boo hoo hoo boo hoo*

Very disturbing.

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 4:56 PM

You are now officially greater morons that the fine idiots… er people of my home state of California. Nice job!
yobobbyb on June 30, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Really? Cali has had Boxer and Feinstein for how many years now?

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Specifically, shouldn’t women and other persons of smaller stature be allowed the right of self defense?

Chainsaw56 on June 30, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Maybe. I’m open to the discussion, I just don’t what the boundaries of that right would be.

mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Mycowardice:

If you agree that you have the right of self defense, then shouldn’t you have the right to the same type of weapons that a criminal may use against you?

Chainsaw56 on June 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Screw Coleman and his concession.

This election was stolen by the completely corrupt Democrat Party.

Al Franken is not a Senator.

We don’t need to work with Democrats, we need to defeat Democrats.

On the battlefield if need be.

NoDonkey on June 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM

I just don’t what the boundaries of that right would be.

mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM

How about ‘I live so I have the right to self defense’?

Limerick on June 30, 2009 at 4:59 PM

I just think the concept of “equalizing” is a bit weak. But you’re right, it might make sense to sometimes allow weaker people to carry around firearms.
mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Now all you need to do is define “weak”…good luck.

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 5:00 PM

its kind of disturbing that the first inclination of so many is to pick up a gun

No, that is not disturbing; what is disturbing is fraudulent election of a clown into the US Senate and a so called president that has absolutely no paper trail

runner on June 30, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Minnesota: #1 average ACT score, top ten per capita income, highest rate of insured people, longest life expectancy. Oh yeah they are really dumb. I wonder how your state ranks!

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:03 PM

I just don’t what the boundaries of that right would be.

mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM

I appreciate this is a ‘school of thought’ comment but…

‘Rights’ don’t have boundaries. They are absolute. They are manifestations of our individual sovereign liberties.

The manner in which we exercise our rights have consequential boundaries. Freedom of speech does not imply freedom from consequence (frex) – lies and threats affect others lives, and are actionable….yet at all times my right to speak freely is not suppressed.

LimeyGeek on June 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Minnesota: #1 average ACT score, top ten per capita income, highest rate of insured people, longest life expectancy. Oh yeah they are really dumb. I wonder how your state ranks!

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Yeah. It speaks oh so highlky about them when they elect CLOWNS to the U.S. Senate…

Idiots. All of them.

newton on June 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM

“highly.” Dang! I just have to type a little slower…

newton on June 30, 2009 at 5:07 PM

Minnesota: #1 average ACT score, top ten per capita income, highest rate of insured people, longest life expectancy. Oh yeah they are really dumb. I wonder how your state ranks!

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Texas: Values rolled up sleeves, #1 in letting a man reinvent himself, highest rate of giving Uncle Sugar the finger, doesn’t care how long you live as long as you live right. Not willing to yield to ‘smart folks’. Doesn’t care how you rank them.

Limerick on June 30, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Minnesota: #1 average ACT score, top ten per capita income, highest rate of insured people, longest life expectancy. Oh yeah they are really dumb. I wonder how your state ranks!
Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:03 PM

Eh, that doesn’t mean jack, other citizens of my state still managed to elect someone even dumber than Ogabe.

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 5:09 PM

If you agree that you have the right of self defense, then shouldn’t you have the right to the same type of weapons that a criminal may use against you?

Chainsaw56 on June 30, 2009 at 4:58 PM

No. Just because the criminal has access to X doesn’t mean that anyone should have access to X. That’s the whole point. They are criminals. They have use weapons which we don’t want them to use. It doesn’t make those weapons legit all of a sudden.

mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Yeah. It speaks oh so highlky about them when they elect CLOWNS to the U.S. Senate…

Idiots. All of them.

newton on June 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Yeah so everyone in one of the most educated and affluent states in the nation are idiots. I mean they must be doing something wrong right? What backwater are you from you effing moron?

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Texas: Values rolled up sleeves, #1 in letting a man reinvent himself, highest rate of giving Uncle Sugar the finger, doesn’t care how long you live as long as you live right. Not willing to yield to ’smart folks’. Doesn’t care how you rank them.

Limerick on June 30, 2009 at 5:09 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHA. ‘smart folks”, heh. I like you Texas. At least you don’t care that your an idiot.

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Yeah. It speaks oh so highlky about them when they elect CLOWNS to the U.S. Senate…

Idiots. All of them.

newton on June 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Not true. I’m from MN and didn’t vote for thie tool. The majority voted for Coleman. Somehow, he ended up losing which doesn’t surprise anyone given the fact that it was stolen from him.

deidre on June 30, 2009 at 5:12 PM

What backwater are you from you effing moron?

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Don’t take me to a road to which I don’t want to go. Because YOU will regret it.

Do you call Puerto Rico a “backwater”? Because if so, I have every right in the world to call YOU a RACIST. Don’t go there.

newton on June 30, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Come on down. Plenty of room. Plenty of freedoms. Plenty of just about everything, except assholes.

Limerick on June 30, 2009 at 5:13 PM

OH, BTW. IQ is 131.

Moron? I don’t think so.

newton on June 30, 2009 at 5:13 PM

The manner in which we exercise our rights have consequential boundaries. Freedom of speech does not imply freedom from consequence (frex) – lies and threats affect others lives, and are actionable….yet at all times my right to speak freely is not suppressed.

LimeyGeek on June 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM

That’s terrible! For the right to free speech to be meaningful it has to include a big right to be protected from consequences. (depending how you see consequences of course).

If not the only type of infringement to your right would be if someone physically prevents you from opening your mouth. If the government arrests you from speaking out your mind, that’s a violation of your right to free speech.

mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 5:14 PM

Not true. I’m from MN and didn’t vote for thie tool. The majority voted for Coleman. Somehow, he ended up losing which doesn’t surprise anyone given the fact that it was stolen from him.

deidre on June 30, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Then he would be Senator now wouldn’t he precious? Do you get how that works now? When a candidate wins the recount and the Supreme Court agrees they become a Senator.

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:14 PM

‘Rights’ don’t have boundaries. They are absolute. They are manifestations of our individual sovereign liberties.
The manner in which we exercise our rights have consequential boundaries. Freedom of speech does not imply freedom from consequence (frex) – lies and threats affect others lives, and are actionable….yet at all times my right to speak freely is not suppressed.
LimeyGeek on June 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Exactly, well said.

The preexisting right enumerated by the Constitution meant that ‘The people’ had the right to defend themselves from Criminals and the Government or a Criminal Government, whatever the case may be.

Chainsaw56 on June 30, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Idiots. All of them.
newton on June 30, 2009 at 5:06 PM

All? Ed is a Minnesotan, so am I, so are/were 46 MOH awardees and the entire 1st Minnesota Regiment who held a crumbling line at Gettysburgh to stave off defeat.

Come on, ALL of us?

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Minnesota: #1 average ACT score, top ten per capita income, highest rate of insured people, longest life expectancy

Pawlenty – you are doing an excellent job

runner on June 30, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Rep.you deserve to loose.You will not fight you will not say a bad thing about Obama or the Dems.You hide when they call you a racist.You bash Rush and Consev. ever time your on one of the sundays shows.You praise Gen Powell even after he voted for Obama.You show up on a news show with a Lib he calls you and ever consev.a racist a person who want to destory the earth throw old people in the street and take lunch money from poor kids.You just sit there smiling saying my good friend the Sen or Congressmsn.You people this is a DAMM WAR if you do not fight back you will loose.Get a set a backbone something anything.

thmcbb on June 30, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 5:15 PM

And a big damn regiment at that. Even this Butternut will tip his hat to 1st Minn.

Limerick on June 30, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Not true. I’m from MN and didn’t vote for thie tool. The majority voted for Coleman. Somehow, he ended up losing which doesn’t surprise anyone given the fact that it was stolen from him.

deidre on June 30, 2009 at 5:12 PM

Not you, dear. I know there are many in MN who have not taken the Democrat poison.

newton on June 30, 2009 at 5:17 PM

At least you don’t care that your an idiot.

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:11 PM

Unintentional humor is always the most amusing.

Hawkins1701 on June 30, 2009 at 5:17 PM

newton on June 30, 2009 at 5:13 PM

Oh I’m sorry you are just a backwater. Is that better? I’m not even from Minnesota and I’m offended by your ripping of it. If you like we could compare the economies of Puerto Rico and Minnesota or where I’m from Wisconsin for that matter. Or education levels or life expectancy or…

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Come on, ALL of us?

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Neither are you, my dear.

OK, I better take that back! I apologize!

newton on June 30, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Then he would be Senator now wouldn’t he precious? Do you get how that works now? When a candidate wins the recount and the Supreme Court agrees they become a Senator.
Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:14 PM

You must have yelled yourself hoarse in defense of Dubya after the 2000 election, you remember, when he won every recount and the SCOTUS agreed?

I’ll bet you weren’t terribly popular at liberal parties or websites as you defended Bush and the concept of “that’s how it works.”

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 5:19 PM

Why are Senators not funny, but yet complete jokes?

LevStrauss on June 30, 2009 at 5:19 PM

Australia is getting better and better looking

ChunkyLover on June 30, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 5:19 PM

No me and my circle of friends aren’t the ranting and raving type like you people seem to be. I always recognized Bush as the rightful winner.

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:21 PM

mycowardice on June 30, 2009 at 5:14 PM

No. Words can have very real meaning and power in the real world. Sometimes, the influence such power can have is unjust and unlawful, and there should be consequences.

The examples I gave are not arbitrary.

LimeyGeek on June 30, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Do you get how that works now? When a candidate wins the recount and the Supreme Court agrees they become

a President of the United sates, but somehow lefties just could not accepted that. Yes I remember it well

runner on June 30, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Oh I’m sorry you are just a backwater. Is that better? I’m not even from Minnesota and I’m offended by your ripping of it. If you like we could compare the economies of Puerto Rico and Minnesota or where I’m from Wisconsin for that matter. Or education levels or life expectancy or…

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:18 PM

I don’t think that someone who is bi-lingual, with two college degrees and an IQ of 131 is worth to be called a “backwater”. But if it is a stay-at-home mom of 2 who votes Conservative, that’s perfectly OK with you. I see it now.

Don’t go there. You don’t know who you’re messing with…

newton on June 30, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Al Franken just gave his acceptance speech. Is it just me, or does he sound drunk?

conservativegrandma on June 30, 2009 at 5:22 PM

And a big damn regiment at that. Even this Butternut will tip his hat to 1st Minn.
Limerick on June 30, 2009 at 5:17 PM

Appreciated. The 1st MN still holds the unenviable record for worst casualty rate every suffered by a surviving unit in U.S. military history.

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Come on, ALL of us?

Bishop on June 30, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Naw. Lived in White Bear Lake a couple of years. Fine people. Smart people. Rich people. My dirty little secret is I always admired Hubert Humphey. Hated his politics but admired the man. I feel so much better having gotten that off my chest. Probably the Mark Sanford effect.

a capella on June 30, 2009 at 5:24 PM

newton on June 30, 2009 at 5:21 PM

I’m shaking in my boots. lol. You are such a joke.

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:24 PM

conservativegrandma on June 30, 2009 at 5:22 PM

Power has a strange way to make people look and feel very drunk…

newton on June 30, 2009 at 5:24 PM

Terry Silver on June 30, 2009 at 5:24 PM

And you’re a jerk.

newton on June 30, 2009 at 5:25 PM

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