Video: The coup in Honduras was illegal, says Obama

posted at 5:44 pm on June 29, 2009 by Allahpundit

The country’s supreme court disagrees, but oh well. The One hath spoken. Regarding the lip service he pays here to “democratic traditions,” does the fact that Honduras’s congress blessed Zelaya’s ouster and installed Micheletti as president factor at all into the calculus about how democratic this was? What about the fact that Zelaya was organizing his referendum towards anti-democratic ends, as a first step towards installing himself as a Chavez-esque strongman? And since Obama’s so worried about setting “terrible precedents,” how about the precedent of piping up in support of a Chavez stooge instead of simply staying out of this? He goes so far here as to say that Zelaya’s still the president of Honduras, which risks forcing an impossible situation where he’s returned to power despite all other arms of the government — military, legislature, and judiciary — being openly hostile to him. What could go wrong?

After thinking about this for 24 hours, I can’t see any reason for a strong reaction from the United States here except as a way for The One to prove he’s different from all the other yanqui presidents in the past. And if that means he has to side with Hugo Chavez, so be it. Exit quotation from Micheletti: “‘We can’t allow that this government take us to communism or socialism.”



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Obama is looking ahead to the 2012 elections………

…….. when he looses, he will come out and say,

“No, No, No……… We can’t have any of that!”

Seven Percent Solution on June 29, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Obama wants to see an unconstitutional democratic process defeated by an unpopular despot…so he can repeat it here.

landlines on June 29, 2009 at 7:21 PM

unconstitutional constitutional

(my fingers must have been temporarily co-opted by leftists)

landlines on June 29, 2009 at 7:22 PM

Lets see… Impeachment… in Honduras

The Legislature puts forward the charge, only a simple majority needed.

The Supreme Court then tries him.

Well, it see, Legislature DID vote, and say the Pres was wrong… and then the Supremes ordered the Military to arrest him.

Sounds to me like they were TRYING to impeach him… but made him the offer to resign instead… which he took, and then recanted on.

Simple solution, try him in absentia.

Romeo13 on June 29, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Obama wants to see an unconstitutional democratic process defeated by an unpopular despot…so he can repeat it here.

landlines on June 29, 2009 at 7:21 PM

Yup. He plans on trying to do the same thing. He at least wants to have the option.

TheBigOldDog on June 29, 2009 at 7:24 PM

katy on June 29, 2009 at 7:17 PM

Thanks OK you wouldn’t get to play much of the year in your neck of the woods anyway. Besides you’re much more useful being good with your gun! lol.

HoustonRight on June 29, 2009 at 7:25 PM

“We are withholding any formal legal determination,” Clinton told reporters at a State Department briefing. She acknowledged, however, that it certainly looked like a coup when soldiers snatched a pajama-clad Zelaya and whisked him off to Costa Rica.

In other words, she jumped the gun and condemned something she knew nothing about—or so she claims. It’s the “incompetence” defense.

FloatingRock on June 29, 2009 at 7:28 PM

I seriously think Bozo is going to have a mental breakdown before his ONE TERM is up.

Ever heard of the insane person having a nervous break down? He is insane and delusional so all he can have is more insanity and delusions.

Franklyn on June 29, 2009 at 7:28 PM

THIS IS JUST ABOUT THE MOST ABHORRENT SENSE OF AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY THAT I CAN EVEN THINK OF !! Arrgggh !!

I have GOT to stop pulling my hair out !!
(which happens every time I open or refresh HotAir)

Sigh.

pambi on June 29, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Are you bald yet just asking because I know I’m.

Clyde5445 on June 29, 2009 at 7:28 PM

I heard on Fox that Hugo Chavez is threatening to invade Honduras. And Moira Liason said that Obama likes the outcome in Honduras but not the method. He just can not say that.

That is nonsense. A guy like Hugo will just use Obama’s remarks to justify what he wants to do. It would have been better if Obama had said nothing at all rather than what he did say.

Terrye on June 29, 2009 at 7:29 PM

Simple solution, try him in absentia.

Romeo13 on June 29, 2009 at 7:23 PM

Good idea. And since the evidence is clear and incontrovertible, the trial won’t have to be long.

FloatingRock on June 29, 2009 at 7:30 PM

HoustonRight on June 29, 2009 at 7:25 PM

Probably not as much as in your neck of the woods but our greens are open more than you’d think.

I just hate using so much ammo as it’s hard to find but…. the better I am the less I waste when I need it!

katy on June 29, 2009 at 7:31 PM

We are all Hondurans now.

bill30097 on June 29, 2009 at 7:34 PM

whatever.

Wow, the world now consists of Venezuela, Ecuador, France and Spain? The “world” responds.

because we don’t support coups, especially in our backyard.
sesquipedalian on June 29, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Must be why for 30 years successive American Presidential administrations have encouraged and worked behind the scenes to get the Iranian people to throw-off their tyrannical theocratic government. Ditto for Cuba.

You really need to try harder; you’re getting schooled by just about everyone here and I’m actually embarrassed for you.

Bishop on June 29, 2009 at 7:35 PM

Good time for this little reminder: ….

TheBigOldDog on June 29, 2009 at 7:04 PM

That is an excellent and, unfortunately, accurate list.

Django on June 29, 2009 at 7:36 PM

I thought we didn’t meddle in other countries’ affairs anymore…

At least, that was the excuse he used to explain why he wouldn’t condemn Iran’s government for slaughtering people in the street …

jana on June 29, 2009 at 7:37 PM

Quit yer meddlin Oboomer

mindhacker on June 29, 2009 at 7:41 PM

Send in a RESET button.

Cicero43 on June 29, 2009 at 6:44 PM

Berry and Hill are pressing the button as fast as they can. Hill’s people assure her that it says “reset” in Hondurian.

Franklyn on June 29, 2009 at 7:45 PM

seriously think Bozo is going to have a mental breakdown before his ONE TERM is up.

For that to happen he would have to take his job seriously. He thinks this is all a game. An ends to a means. I’ll bet he feels no stress at all. No burden of command. Nothing but the enjoyment of the perks of the job.

HoustonRight on June 29, 2009 at 7:45 PM

In other news, Obama had a busy day.

You’d think condemning democracy, standing shoulder to shoulder with leftists/markists/communists, and green lighting Chavez to conduct his own “counter-coup”, would make for a full day.

You would be wrong.

He met with the President of Columbia. Yuk. Another stupid democracy, enemy of Chavez. Nothing to talk about. No news here.

Met with the Gay-Lesbian-Transgender-Transsexual-Beastiality-pedophile/deviant sub-sets Militant Action Committee to plot their next step in public appeasement.

But, the crowning jewel of Obama’s day…

TOTUS RETURNS!!

TOTUS GAVE AN INSPIRING SPEECH ABOUT LIGHTBULBS!!

When does this joker leave town again?

Browndog on June 29, 2009 at 8:03 PM

Si

mple solution, try him in absentia.

Their constution was clear on the matter and how it would be resolved. He was given the opprotunity to stop and chose not to do so. He took action that declared his guilt. Their congress found he had violated the law, (empeachment) and their Supreme court found him guilty (no long qualified to hold an elected office). The consitutional process was carried out and the military was ordered to arrest and detain him. He was by their constitution now to be procecuted as an ordinary citizen along with those who conspired with him. Perhaps it was a mistake to allow him to resign, which was a prerquesit for exile, and go into exile in a country of his choice. He can be procecuted if he returns to Honduras, at least as long as their constitution remains or hugo invades and take over, with berry standing aside so as to not meddle in his friend taking care of a situation he does not agree with.

Franklyn on June 29, 2009 at 8:11 PM

QUESTIONS OF THE DAY:

Who made more people buy things that don’t work, Obama or Billy Mays?

Billy never made me buy Mighty Putty but Obama made me buy GM!

Who’s the bigger crook, Madoff or Obama?

TheBigOldDog on June 29, 2009 at 6:30 PM

Easy one

Madoff stole money

Obama is stealing freedom

You don’t have to die in the streets to get your money back.

Browndog on June 29, 2009 at 8:17 PM

We are all Hondurans now.

bill30097 on June 29, 2009 at 7:34 PM

Somewhere today Col. North is smiling. Along with his boss-the Gipper….

Browndog on June 29, 2009 at 8:21 PM

Wow. Just…wow.

Never, ever thought I’d see the day. And to think today is Iraq’s new July 4th. Didnt see squaddich from the White House about that today, did anyone else? Bueller, Bueller? Bueller?

Mike D. on June 29, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Wow. Just…wow.

Never, ever thought I’d see the day. And to think today is Iraq’s new July 4th. Didnt see squaddich from the White House about that today, did anyone else? Bueller, Bueller? Bueller?

Mike D. on June 29, 2009 at 8:52 PM

LIGHTBULBS

Browndog on June 29, 2009 at 9:02 PM

“Whadaya mean the Supreme Court and Legislature and Military can throw out a President for blatantly violating the constitution and attempting to install Oneself as Beloved Leader for Life? Heresy! Better nip this crap in the bud before Roberts and Scalia get any ideas….”

Changucopia on June 29, 2009 at 9:16 PM

I think Obama’s straddling the world like some kind of GOD!

Or something.

mr.blacksheep on June 29, 2009 at 9:29 PM

Must be why for 30 years successive American Presidential administrations have encouraged and worked behind the scenes to get the Iranian people to throw-off their tyrannical theocratic government. Ditto for Cuba.

You really need to try harder; you’re getting schooled by just about everyone here and I’m actually embarrassed for you.

Bishop on June 29, 2009 at 7:35 PM

no government supports coups publicly, as coups are the gravest dangers to democracy. the major actors in international affairs, including the US and the EU, are committed to defend democracy, among other things by punishing attempted or actual coups against elected incumbents. takeover by the military, no matter if its temporary, is unacceptable in a democracy. that is the reason why the international community is united in condemning the honduran putsch.

sesquipedalian on June 29, 2009 at 9:36 PM

sesquipedalian

scumball libtard troll

bill30097 on June 29, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Yanqui Obama, GO HOME!

Christien on June 29, 2009 at 10:24 PM

The scariest words in Honduras: Hi my name is Obama and I’m here to help..uhhh, Zelaya.

Speakup on June 29, 2009 at 10:52 PM

How is The One so certain that this is “illegal” but we all must wait and see about Iran? Why can’t I just finish my waffle?

HumblyRight on June 29, 2009 at 11:49 PM

QUESTIONS OF THE DAY:
Who made more people buy things that don’t work, Obama or Billy Mays?

Billy never made me buy Mighty Putty but Obama made me buy GM!

Who’s the bigger crook, Madoff or Obama?

TheBigOldDog on June 29, 2009 at 6:30 PM

Madoff is a piker: he took over a decade to steal Billions…Obama has made off with tens of Trillions of our money in only 6 months!!!!

landlines on June 29, 2009 at 11:58 PM

The Honduran military did not stage a coup, they thwarted one.

Maquis on June 30, 2009 at 12:22 AM

This was a legal removal of a president that was in violation of the Honduran Constitution.

Zelaya’s actions of the past 5 months have been in blantant disregard for the Honduran Constitution, which he sought to rewrite, the Honduran Supreme Court, which he has undermined, the Honduran Congress, which he has tried to delegitimize, his own party that has resisted Hugo Chavez, and 72% of the Honduran public, that feel disenfranchised by Zelaya.

This was not a coup. Zelaya was legally removed by the military at the request of the Honduran Congress and the Honduran Supreme Court that have the following two articles of the Honduran Constitution as the legal authority to do so

ARTICULO 239.- El ciudadano que haya desempeñado la titularidad del Poder Ejecutivo no podrá ser Presidente o Designado.

El que quebrante esta disposición o proponga su reforma, así como aquellos que lo apoyen directa o indirectamente, cesarán de inmediato en el desempeño de sus respectivos cargos, y quedarán inhabilitados por diez años para el ejercicio de toda función pública.

TRANSLATION Article 239 The citizen that has been the head of the Execute Branch cannot be President or Vice-President (again).
Whoever violates this law or proposes its reform, as well as those that support such violation directly or indirectly, will immediately cease in their functions and will be unable to hold any public office for a period of 10 years.

ARTICULO 205.- Corresponden al Congreso Nacional las atribuciones siguientes:
15. Declarar si ha lugar o no a formación de causa contra el Presidente
20. Aprobar o improbar la conducta administrativa del Poder Ejecutivo, Poder Judicial y

TRANSLATION – Article 205 – Congress has the following authority:
15 To indict the President
20 To approve or disapprove of the administrative conduct of the Execurive Branch, …

Why is Obama now meddling in the internal affairs of a soveriegn nation and why is he siding with Hugo Chavez against the nation of Honduras?

elduende on June 30, 2009 at 1:01 AM

“The coup in Honduras was illegal, says Obama”

Well duh. The socialists lost, so of course Obama is against it.

Kevin M on June 30, 2009 at 3:12 AM

This is a sad, sad time for foreign relations in the United States. When a country follows its own constitution and deposes it’s rogue president for violating the constitution, the American president goes out and condemns it as undemocratic.

Simply unnerving and completely backwards. Would they have preferred that Zelaya were arrested by the police?

If anyone could just ask Obama one question: should the Supreme Court and Congress of Honduras let the president carry out an unconstitutional referendum?

Seixon on June 30, 2009 at 4:19 AM

I know exactly why Obama is siding with Chavez (complete whack job dictator) and Zelaya (complete whack job dictator wannabe who is breaking the law and defying the Honduras constitution): if Obama doesn’t get re-elected, this is his plan to stay in office–he can’t disagree with it!

varnson on June 30, 2009 at 9:02 AM

Obama is a fine one to talk about illegalities. Did he, or did he not, violate his own law, by firing Inspector Generals?

Perhaps he’s sending the message, that when the same is done to him, for violating the constitution, and trying to declare himself dictator, we’ll all know….”it’s illegal”.

Which is why he wanted a civilian national security force better funded than the U.S. military. To support his “legal” coup.

L’Etat, c’est moi.

Louis XIV of France
Hussein the First of Barackia.

Steve Z on June 30, 2009 at 10:01 AM

“we believe this coup was not legal”

Douchebag says what?

Michelle Dubois on June 30, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Would all you commentors please stop using facts, common sense, and reason…

Your going to ruin sesquipedalian’s illusion. (Hallucination)

PappaMac on June 30, 2009 at 12:06 PM

I’m writing all of my representatives (all Republicans, thank God) and urging them to stand up to our jackass of a president and the she-jackass in the State Dept., on this one.

NoDonkey on June 30, 2009 at 12:37 PM

Finally puts to rest any questions as to whether Zero is a Leftist.

Mr. Grump on June 30, 2009 at 1:07 PM

Another…uh…2 minute clip…a…uh..where Hopenchange…uh..a…says “uh” 21 times.

I just hope OUR military saw this incident and thought “Coup! What a great idea!”

Rockygold on June 30, 2009 at 1:49 PM

The coup in Honduras was illegal, says Obama

Ok boys and girls, lets do this by the numbers.

For something to be “illegal” it must have been in violation of a specific law, in the jurisdiction in which the alleged illegal action actually occured. As most of us know, an acticity that is illegal in on nation, state or even a county or town, may well be completly legal in a jurisdiction next door.

Obama is supposed to be a constitutional scholar, so if he says the action taken by the legislative body, court and military of Honduras is illegal, he should be able to cite a specific law that was violated. Let’s see that, or see him admit he is just pandering to the leftists; again.

MikeA on June 30, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Obama may be afraid this may be something that may catch on in the North American region and he may be arrested and sent back to Africa or Chicago.

workingforpigs on June 30, 2009 at 2:34 PM

he should be able to cite a specific law that was violated.

And that would assume that we have an actual press that would ask an actual question of relevance.

Which we don’t.

More likely – “How’s that adorable puppy doing?” or “When will you take the girls out for ice cream next?”

NoDonkey on June 30, 2009 at 2:54 PM

Video: The coup in Honduras was illegal, says Obama

Barry Soetoro has shown his commie pink by agreeing with leftists Castro, Chavez, and Ortega! No past president would have joined up with this group of dictators! Wrong Hussein, the coup in Honduras was court approved, and Constitutionally legal.

byteshredder on June 30, 2009 at 2:55 PM

Wrong Hussein, the coup in Honduras was court approved, ordered and Constitutionally legal required under the laws of Honduras.

FIFY

MikeA on June 30, 2009 at 3:04 PM

I thinkg Obummer peed his pants when he realized that what is happening in Iran, and what just happened in Honduras, could happen to him.

Look for another “crisis” so he can try to marginalize our military and crush the citizenry.

riverrat10k on June 30, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Obama very quick to defend his leftist friends… Bad mojo.

James on June 30, 2009 at 6:30 PM

President Alvaro Uribe of Colombia stands with democracy and against Zelaya and Chavez!!!!

Says the principal of non-intervention is the one that needs to guide the actions of all nations with regards to the Honduran situation. Basically says that this is a Honduran internal matter and all outside actors need to butt out

El presidente de Colombia, Álvaro Uribe, defendió este martes el principio de la “no intervención” externa ante la crisis política en Honduras.

“El respeto a la no intervención debe ser a todas las horas, frente a todos los casos, no puede ser sesgado, no puede ser en este caso no intervención, en este caso sí intervención”, dijo Uribe a la prensa tras un discurso en el Centro Woodrow Wilson, un instituto de estudios.

http://www.laprensahn.com/index.php/Ediciones/2009/07/01/Noticias/Uribe-defiende-principio-de-la-no-intervencion

Uribe has more guts in his pinky than Obama, the supposed, leader of the free world.

elduende on July 1, 2009 at 4:04 AM

Obama now stands against President Uribe, the most popular anti Communist president in Colombian history (and our staunchest ally in Latin America), and makes common cause with the most hated Communist dictators in Latin American history; Chavez, Ortega, and the Castros.

http://www.laprensahn.com/index.php/Ediciones/2009/07/01/Noticias/Uribe-defiende-principio-de-la-no-intervencion

elduende on July 1, 2009 at 4:08 AM

So; What does it take for people to see that Obuma (sic) is nothing but a reactionary? He has no passion for anything, nor any master plan.

Cybergeezer on July 1, 2009 at 8:22 AM

So, Obama will meddle when things don’t go his way (Honduras) but won’t meddle when things go his way (Iran killing liberal youths who want out of the Thugocracy)

The world is upside down.

James on July 1, 2009 at 9:16 AM

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