Terrific: Chavez accuses U.S. of having “a lot to do” with Honduras coup

posted at 8:18 pm on June 29, 2009 by Allahpundit

From yesterday afternoon, a transparent attempt by the Evil Clown to bait The One into taking his side. And darn if it didn’t work.

Just days after reestablishing diplomatic ties with Venezuela, President Hugo Chavez is accusing the U.S. of staging a coup in Honduras as President Obama expressed concern over President Manuel Zelaya’s arrest…

Chavez, who succeeded on his second try to push a similar referendum that allows his indefinite re-election, lashed out at the U.S. and Obama in Caracas, alleging “the Yankee empire had a lot to do” with the “coup d’etat” against his fellow leftist leader.

“I call on the president of the United States to issue a statement as we have, rejecting this affront, which not only goes against Honduras but against all the peoples of Latin America,” Chavez said.

At the risk of exploding what little right-wing blog cred I have left, I can’t believe The One would align himself with Chavez without some compelling reason. Even if you believe the worst conservative suspicions about him, i.e. that he’s some lefty dictator fanboy, the political price he’ll pay for doing this is too steep to justify it unless there’s a greater good he’s aiming at. Witness Drudge’s headline right now (“Obama lashes out at Honduras; sides with Chavez, Castro”) or Krauthammer in the clip below offering a useful rule of thumb for Latin America. Barry’s going to eat a ton of shinola for this — but why? What’s the strategic benefit? Is he so focused on isolating Iran that he’s willing to take Chavez’s side on Honduras in order to peel him away from Ahmadinejad? If so, how does that affect Iran’s nuclear agenda? I don’t get it. The most likely explanation is that Obama’s simply obsessed with “repairing America’s image in the world,” and if that means occasionally taking the side of a Chavista stooge to prove he’s the anti-Bush, then that’s what he’ll do.

Exit question: If the whole government is against Zelaya, why didn’t they just impeach him?


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I would like to thank Harvard Law School for graduating such an expert on Constitutional Law, who thinks that upholding the Constitution of a Republic is, somehow, a coup. I can see why they voted him to be Precedent of the Law Review.

Harvard … you guys are the best. Really. You are the best. I’m not making fun of you or calling that your law school be stripped of its accreditation.

progressoverpeace on June 29, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Why did Obama support Zelaya?

Why did Hitler support Mussolini when he ran into trouble?

MB4 on June 29, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Do I have this right: the court & congress ordered the military to preempt the president’s pushing through a law allowing him to be president indefinitely?

How is that NOT democratic?

goddessoftheclassroom on June 29, 2009 at 9:09 PM

It’s still 1984!

Only three and half more nightmarish years to go!

canopfor on June 29, 2009 at 9:10 PM

War comming ????

Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez threatens to invade as Honduran army stages coup

William Amos on June 29, 2009 at 8:30 PM

Well, he already provided the ballots that the democratically elected Honduran Congress and their Supreme Court had a problem with. So he is now trying to finish the job and condemn another population to oppresion.

El Coqui on June 29, 2009 at 9:11 PM

That was the craziest performance of political spin I’ve ever seen. She had a horrified expression on her face the whole time she was doing it. Those eyes…I won’t sleep well tonight.

She apparently works at PBS and PBS is representing the story the same way Obama did so is PBS secretly happy too?

Buddahpundit on June 29, 2009 at 9:11 PM

Democracy is the American way not coup.

equality on June 29, 2009 at 9:11 PM

I would like to thank Harvard Law School for graduating such an expert on Constitutional Law, who thinks that upholding the Constitution of a Republic is, somehow, a coup. I can see why they voted him to be Precedent of the Law Review.

progressoverpeace on June 29, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Don’t know much about history
Don’t know much about producing energy
Don’t know much about an economics book
Don’t know much about the constitutional law I took

But I do know that I would love imposing Marxism on you
And I know that if you would just love Lenin too
What a wonderful socialist country this would be

La ta ta ta ta ta ta
(History)
Ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh
(Producing energy)
La ta ta ta ta ta ta
(Economics book)
Ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh
(Constitutional law I took)

But I do know that I would love imposing Marxism on you
And I know that if you would just love Lenin too
What a wonderful socialist country this would be
- Mao Obmama

MB4 on June 29, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Do I have this right: the court & congress ordered the military to preempt the president’s pushing through a law allowing him to be president indefinitely?

How is that NOT democratic?

goddessoftheclassroom on June 29, 2009 at 9:09 PM

Constitutional is the word here. The Zalaya supporters are going to be throwing ‘democratic’ around a lot because the guys crime was to offer up a bit of direct democracy, and we use ‘democratic’ a lot as a stand in for ‘government that is guided by the intent of the people, but restrained by respect for individual rights’.

Count to 10 on June 29, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Well, if we want to take a Machiavellian tack on this:

First, BHO does a lot of tongue-kissing with fellow Marxist Hugo.

Second, BHO steps in doo-doo with his reflexive condemnation of the Honduran “coup”

Third: BHO calls his amigo Hugo and says, hey help me out on this one. Remember when I was catching all that heat about my pastor? Amost cost me the election. But he agreed to come out in public, raving like a lunatic, so I could then throw him under the bus.

Four: “BHO: This isn’t the Hugo Chavez I thought I knew.”

guntotinglibertarian on June 29, 2009 at 9:14 PM

“I can’t believe The One would align himself with Chavez without some compelling reason”

What’s the mystery.

He’s got a compelling reason.

He loves dictators, particulaly the Marxist ones.

notagool on June 29, 2009 at 9:14 PM

It’s still 1984!

canopfor on June 29, 2009 at 9:10 PM

War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.

MB4 on June 29, 2009 at 9:15 PM

MB4 on June 29, 2009 at 9:12 PM

ROFLMAO! That was great.

I’m still laughing.

progressoverpeace on June 29, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Four: “BHO: This isn’t the Hugo Chavez I thought I knew.”

guntotinglibertarian on June 29, 2009 at 9:14 PM

I don’t think he’ll get to step 4…Hugo wears the pants in this relationship.

AUINSC on June 29, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Wait a tic!

Call me crazy,but isn’t this how World War Two
kinda got started!

canopfor on June 29, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Democracy is the American way not coup.

equality on June 29, 2009 at 9:11 PM

Witness: troll bomb throwing from high altitude.

Count to 10 on June 29, 2009 at 9:16 PM

I really think that the Obama “team” did not know what was going on.

I believe his enuch-in-chief, Gibbs, ran into his bedroom in the morning while Obama was doing that hand jive and told him that the President of the Honduras was arrested and deposited on some island somewhere. Then El Presidente-for-life, Obama, being in a somewhat flustered state thought that there was a real coup going on.

Now he can’t admit what a lame brain he is.

Vince on June 29, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Exit question: If the whole government is against Zelaya, why didn’t they just impeach him?

My understanding is the Honduras constitution does not support impeachment.

Enoxo on June 29, 2009 at 9:17 PM

War is peace!

MB4 on June 29,2009 at 9:15PM.

MB4: And,failure to remember history,your doomed to repeat
it!!:)

canopfor on June 29, 2009 at 9:18 PM

AP its pretty simple…the man is a dunderhead!

crazywater on June 29, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Hugo wears the pants in this relationship

Yeah, you’re probably right. You might have seen my post the other day about a highly-placed Admin source who told me, off the record, that BHO sent a pair of his used panties to Hugo.

guntotinglibertarian on June 29, 2009 at 9:19 PM

It’s all orchestrated … and our schmucks in the media believe it.

ashiya on June 29, 2009 at 9:20 PM

At the risk of exploding what little right-wing blog cred I have left, I can’t believe The One would align himself with Chavez without some compelling reason.

I haven’t read all of the comments so forgive me if this has been said. AP, I don’t doubt your earnest wondering about what Obama is really up to here. What commenters should understand is that, if conservative AP can not determine the reasons for Obama’s actions, then imagine how difficult it will be to change the minds of an already adoring electorate.

For those who believe that everything will change in 2010 and 2012, let me ask you this? Are you going to take down the media? Are you going to take down ACORN and the other Soros machines? Are you going to end corruption in government? All of those who think they know what Obama’s end-game is, what’s yours if the up-coming elections don’t work out for you?

Full disclosure….I’m one who thinks he knows what Obama’s plans are and I don’t have a game plan either, other than one that takes care of my family.

genso on June 29, 2009 at 9:20 PM

OK, Soros, how do you like your Manchurian candidate now?

Knott Buyinit on June 29, 2009 at 9:21 PM

The US stands for the rule of law, not “democracy” if, by democracy you mean mob rule of the sort that Zelaya was trying to engineer. The rule of law in Honduras saw fit to remove a law-breaker from office according to their constitutional provisions. It was not a backroom plot; they were open about it and gave Zelaya a chance to step back from the precipice. Zelaya refused. Honduras took actions to preserve their constitutional government by removing the lawbreaker determined to subvert that constitution.

I have no problem supporting that.

bamaconservative on June 29, 2009 at 9:22 PM

I can’t believe The One would align himself with Chavez without some compelling reason

Yes, Mr. Pundit, sir, we extremist right wing fanatics are just crazy insane; Birchers, one and all. Sons of Sen. Joe McCarthy.

Skandia Recluse on June 29, 2009 at 9:22 PM

canopfor on June 29, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Yes sir.

HoustonRight on June 29, 2009 at 9:24 PM

!!!!!!!!!!!WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It has come to the attention,that some crew member,is pushing the very idea,that America is a coup!

Take note,that this montra,has been repeated by the same
crew member!

And this crew member knows who they are!!

Thats is all,back to commenting!(Snark).

canopfor on June 29, 2009 at 9:24 PM

HOLY CRAP! She was spinning sooooo hard her eyes were wanting to pop out! Her face said everything.

This panics the left because it dove-tails with exactly what this administration is trying to do…take over and rewrite the constitution or make it a museum piece.

javamartini on June 29, 2009 at 9:25 PM

I can’t believe The One would align himself with Chavez without some compelling reason
Yes, Mr. Pundit, sir, we extremist right wing fanatics are just crazy insane; Birchers, one and all. Sons of Sen. Joe McCarthy.

Is AP going Ariana Huffington on us? Gee, AP, keep distancing yourself from the raving right nutroots and you, too, might be invited to cruise on David Geffen’s superyacht.

guntotinglibertarian on June 29, 2009 at 9:26 PM

Exit question: If the whole government is against Zelaya, why didn’t they just impeach him?

My understanding is the Honduras constitution does not support impeachment.

Enoxo on June 29, 2009 at 9:17 PM

That’s what I figured. But even if they did have an impeachment process, what happens if they can’t muster a supermajority to impeach him? Are they supposed to just accept the death of their democracy at that point?

Buddahpundit on June 29, 2009 at 9:27 PM

Sons of Sen. Joe McCarthy.

Skandia Recluse on June 29, 2009 at 9:22 PM

McCarthy was right!!!! (as in correct)

thomasaur on June 29, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Thats is all,back to commenting!(Snark).

canopfor on June 29, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Hmmm, my Corvette is a coup, it’s an American made Coup… I sure hope America is a Corvette…. ;p

doriangrey on June 29, 2009 at 9:28 PM

That’s what I figured. But even if they did have an impeachment process, what happens if they can’t muster a supermajority to impeach him? Are they supposed to just accept the death of their democracy at that point?

Buddahpundit on June 29, 2009 at 9:27 PM

Nope, of course not. And Obama is an ass for siding with dictators, once again.

The interesting thing here as people flagrantly call this a military coup… the military held power for a brief moment, and the second person–according to their constitution, was sworn in immediately. There was no coup. It was simply a military transfer of democratic power. Would they have liked a democratic, peaceful transfer? I’m sure, but the guy wasn’t giving them an option.

Enoxo on June 29, 2009 at 9:31 PM

McCarthy was right!!!! (as in correct)

And the Rosenbergs were guilty. And Alger Hiss was a spy. And Bill Clinton did allow transfer of missile technology to China.

On the other hand..and more importantly…conservatives want to snatch food from the mouths of black children.

guntotinglibertarian on June 29, 2009 at 9:31 PM

Exit question: If the whole government is against Zelaya, why didn’t they just impeach him?

My best guess is that they wanted it over and done with ASAP. Let it play out too long, let Zelaya stick around at home and play his game instead of playing the legal game, things might unravel.

A ‘coup’ might be illegal, but its nice and neat since everyone in the government supports it. Let Zelaya’s supports do what they want.

Scopper on June 29, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Perhaps it might have been better if the Honduran Congress and Supreme Court announced that Zelaya had “committed suicide,” grief-struck, of course, over the untimely and unfortunate death of Michael Jackson? /s

coldwarrior on June 29, 2009 at 9:35 PM

MB4 on June 29, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Should be on the back of a t-shirt with “Don’t Tread On Me” on the front! And mass produced!

For those of us who researched President Tricycle as much as we were allowed, (some things are shall we say- missing), this level of sophistry is not a shock. However, the speed with which this idiot is plunging us into danger is a big shock. I feel like we are on a ski lift in the Alps, plunging to the bottom of a mountain, and the ski lift operator is out on a beer break.

freeus on June 29, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Chavez Printed the Ballots- Pre Marked them too?

Chavez is right, Obama is meddling again. Furthermore Obama and Americans need to be punished for Him having the nerve to open his mouth on Iran, even if meekly and too late. I’m sure Amejihad will slap us in Iraq. Who does Obama think he is to insist that millions of perfectly good and pre-marked ballots be wasted. Who doesn’t stand with Amenjihad, Ortega, Castro, Obama? After a respecable period of indignation we will resume business as usual. Enough Michael Jackson, lets get to what’s really important-Jewish birth rates on a speck of land the size of Staten Island. We must create a jihadist juden-frei state in the heart of Israel, with G-d’s blessing of course. Then we will have peace and prosperity.

Reality Check on June 29, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Barry’s going to eat a ton of shinola for this — but why?

Because Ogabe is a bottomless barrel in which to deposit said shinola; he has to be because he needs a ready supply to shovel out on a daily basis in the form of policy decisions.

Bishop on June 29, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Full disclosure….I’m one who thinks he knows what Obama’s plans are and I don’t have a game plan either, other than one that takes care of my family.

genso on June 29, 2009 at 9:20 PM

I hear ya. I have mentioned this group before in the past, but in case you and others missed it, it should be of interest to you:

The American Constitution and Capitalism Defense Front

If someone knows of any other groups, please list them.

javamartini on June 29, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Perhaps it might have been better if the Honduran Congress and Supreme Court announced that Zelaya had “committed suicide,” grief-struck, of course, over the untimely and unfortunate death of Michael Jackson? /s

coldwarrior on June 29, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Nobody in our media would question a story like that, judging on their coverage of the MJ story.

FloatingRock on June 29, 2009 at 9:41 PM

Obama said he would work with the Organization of American States and other international institutions to restore Zelaya to power and “see if we can resolve this in a peaceful way.”

Go for it, you pencil-neck, and see what “Yankee Meddling” is really all about.

Fool.

Bishop on June 29, 2009 at 9:41 PM

equality on June 29, 2009 at 9:11 PM

Go back to smoking your banana peels, they’ll treat you better than this site when you speak such ignorant banalities.

chemman on June 29, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Yuri Bezmenov

Seven Percent Solution on June 29, 2009 at 9:47 PM

Democracy is the American way not coup.

equality on June 29, 2009 at 9:11 PM

I thought Constitutional Republicanism was the American way.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on June 29, 2009 at 9:47 PM

Perhaps it might have been better if the Honduran Congress and Supreme Court announced that Zelaya had “committed suicide,” grief-struck, of course, over the untimely and unfortunate death of Michael Jackson? /s

coldwarrior on June 29, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Nah. They spent too much time doing things the official way, secure in the knowledge that the free world would back them against the overreach of a would-be dictator.
Oops.

Count to 10 on June 29, 2009 at 9:48 PM

Is he so focused on isolating Iran that he’s willing to take Chavez’s side on Honduras in order to peel him away from Ahmadinejad? If so, how does that affect Iran’s nuclear agenda? I don’t get it.

Allah, I know I just said I wouldn’t pick on you, but I can’t help myself in this case. If you think that The Precedent wants to isolate Iran, or stop them from getting nukes, in any way, then you are just plain nuts. The only countries he wants to see punished in the middle east are Israel … and he wants Iraq to descend into chaos.

The Precedent wants to be Iran’s bestest buddy and part of the Axis of Evil. He hates America and he hates the West and wants to see it brought to its knees. How many times does he have to take positions supporting this before you take him at his word?

The Precedent, through his policies, tells you that he’s a traitor and you call him a liar.

progressoverpeace on June 29, 2009 at 9:49 PM

I thought Constitutional Republicanism was the American way.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on June 29, 2009 at 9:47 PM

Never mind “high altitude troll bomber equality”.
He aim sucks, and his ordinance is all duds.

Count to 10 on June 29, 2009 at 9:50 PM

From the Constitution:

If you can read Spanish go for it: http://www.honduras.net/honduras_constitution.html

Part 1, Chapter 1, Article 4
1. The government is a republic, democratic, and representative

2. Presidents must alternate

Violation of this rule is TREASON

Part 7, Chapter 1, Article 373
3. Only the Congress can call for a consitutional convention

Part 5, Chapter 10, Article 279
4. Only the Congress can fire the Chief of the Military

Part 5, Chapter 6, Article 237
5. The President serves for four years

*I did not see where it states only one term, I guess it is implied*

Part 2, Chapter 4, Article 48
6. Prohibits parties from attacking the republic, democratic, representative form of government

This man violated this and maybe more parts of the constitution.

sjramos on June 29, 2009 at 9:52 PM

progressoverpeace on June 29, 2009 at 9:49 PM

I’m not sure its a conscious thing with P.BO.
He’s just following the path laid out by the soviet operatives that indoctrinated his mentors.

Count to 10 on June 29, 2009 at 9:52 PM

She apparently works at PBS and PBS is representing the story the same way Obama did so is PBS secretly happy too?

Buddahpundit on June 29, 2009 at 9:11 PM

If Obama’s happy, PBS is happy.

ddrintn on June 29, 2009 at 9:54 PM

doriangrey on June 29, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Dorian have you been captured by the dark side. How could you suggest that the US was like a Government Motors car. :)

chemman on June 29, 2009 at 9:55 PM

This man violated this and maybe more parts of the constitution.

sjramos on June 29, 2009 at 9:52 PM

There is supposed to be a part in there that states that if the President or Vice President advocate for a removal of the term limit, they are removed from office and bared from running for ten years.
But, I don’t really speak espanol, so I can’t look for myself.

Count to 10 on June 29, 2009 at 9:55 PM

But…in far more important matters of state…

Obama announces new federal guidelines for light bulbs.

One dim bulb telling us how to dim our bulbs?

1300 days to go until the New President is sworn in.

coldwarrior on June 29, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Democracy is the American way not coup.

equality on June 29, 2009 at 9:11 PM

But if democracy is threatened by a dictator, it is incumbent upon democrats (small “d” ones) to revolt.

ddrintn on June 29, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Everyone is always trying to come up with some clever strategic reason for why Obama does what he does. I guess to avoid facing the real reason why: He is on the wrong side.

Alana on June 29, 2009 at 9:58 PM

I don’t get it. The most likely explanation is that Obama’s simply obsessed with “repairing America’s image in the world,” and if that means occasionally taking the side of a Chavista stooge to prove he’s the anti-Bush, then that’s what he’ll do.

AP, you must be in deep denial. Obama is creating a massive crisis (open your eyes, he’s succeeding) and plans to come to the rescue by installing himself as president-until-further-notice to “solve” it.

Honduras is a BAD precedent. If THAT president fails because he violated THEIR constitution, it undermines Obama’s agenda.

Daggett on June 29, 2009 at 9:59 PM

my corvette coup….

doriangrey on June 29,2009 at (;28PM.

doriangrey: Excellent taste!:) I’m a Chevelle man,myself!:)

canopfor on June 29, 2009 at 10:00 PM

sjramos on June 29, 2009 at 9:52 PM

Have been trying to follow this since last week.

What the military did was totally legal and constitutional under Honduran law. Zelaya dared them to stop him. They did..under law and the Honduran Constitution.

And now, we are told by Obama and Hillary that Honduras needs to return to the rule of law?

coldwarrior on June 29, 2009 at 10:00 PM

crap,thats at, 9:28PM.Ugh.

canopfor on June 29, 2009 at 10:00 PM

I really dont think this has anything to do with Obama being ignorant or stupid or dumb. I think it has to do with the fact he is a hardcore socialist, that doesnt want to see one of his own forced out. He said it sets a ‘terrible precedent’. For who? Obama? Yes.

jspsax1 on June 29, 2009 at 10:01 PM

MB4 on June 29, 2009 at 9:12 PM

Seriously how do you do that. You really do have a gift.

milwife88 on June 29, 2009 at 10:01 PM

Count to 10 on June 29, 2009 at 9:52 PM

I have to part with you on this, Count. The Precedent is very conscious about his seething anger. He’s spoken about it so much, in so many different ways, that I am just surprised that anyone doubts it.

And then, to watch his policies upon gaining power even leaves someone like Allah with nothing but, “I don’t get it.” Of course, I tried to explain to allah, a while ago, that he would “get it” once he realizes that this is all driven by a desire to exact revenge on whites, the successful and the Western world, in general.

Personally, I think The Precedent’s desire for revenge is as much a result of having grown up in Indonesia and taking in their culture as having commie parents and mentors. The Precedent has a total third-world mentality and view – even aside from all of the rote marxist ideas – and that tends to come from being one more than learning how to be one.

progressoverpeace on June 29, 2009 at 10:03 PM

my corvette coup….

doriangrey on June 29,2009 at (;28PM.

doriangrey: Excellent taste!:) I’m a Chevelle man,myself!:)

canopfor on June 29, 2009 at 10:00 PM

I wish that I had kept my ’70 SS 454.

ICBM on June 29, 2009 at 10:06 PM

progressoverpeace on June 29, 2009 at 10:03 PM

+1000

chemman on June 29, 2009 at 10:09 PM

Reuters: “U.S. President Barack Obama said on Monday the coup that ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya was illegal and would set a “terrible precedent” of transition by military force unless it was reversed.”

Heh. Words of our very own “terrible precedent”. I somehow get a faint “whiff of fear” in that statement. Well, a guy can hope anyway.

Fishoutofwater on June 29, 2009 at 10:10 PM

progressoverpeace on June 29, 2009 at 10:03 PM

I don’t disagree, I just don’t think its conscious. He’s internalized all of the soviet propaganda (plus), and thinks he is actually leading the world to a new utopia. He thinks he is improving America, even as he pushes for things that will destroy it.

Count to 10 on June 29, 2009 at 10:12 PM

Reuters: “U.S. President Barack Obama said on Monday the coup that ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya was illegal and would set a “terrible precedent” of transition by military force unless it was reversed.”

Fishoutofwater on June 29, 2009 at 10:10 PM

When Obama makes a loud public statement directed to Iran, that Ammadinnerjacket’s election was a total fraud and should be cast aside and the will of the Iranian people and not the mullahs be listened to and the rule of law in Iran be respected….

Hell, it ain’t gonna happen.

Oh, well, 1300 more days of Obama. Jimmy Carter is starting to look good…and I lived through the Carter years while in the military.

coldwarrior on June 29, 2009 at 10:20 PM

Count to 10 on June 29, 2009 at 10:12 PM

I hear you. I am much more cynical. I don’t think he wants to leave anything but a smoldering husk. I look at him as Hannibal, without the talent, but as to the motivation.

He’s even more dangerous if your view is the correct one – as marxist ideologue.

progressoverpeace on June 29, 2009 at 10:21 PM

Even if you believe the worst conservative suspicions about him, i.e. that he’s some lefty dictator fanboy, the political price he’ll pay for doing this is too steep to justify it unless there’s a greater good he’s aiming at.

The messiah pays no political price for anything. Have you been living in a cave for the last 6 months?

Wine_N_Dine on June 29, 2009 at 10:23 PM

why does anyone think that the average American will pay any attention to this at all?

smart, well-read & witty people i know have no idea what is going on internationally or even in Congress. they don’t care.

kelley in virginia on June 29, 2009 at 10:23 PM

Mr. Krauthammer “it’s easy to dismantle a democracy”. BHO takes note. SCARY

farright on June 29, 2009 at 10:30 PM

Obama is an Alinsky inspired leftist. His inclinations have been honed by his education and associations, and his ambition. Why is this so hard for Allah to understand? Do you really think he’s a statist only at home and not abroad? Also you seem to grant him some knowledge and insight that he just doesn’t have. And he doesn’t realize that he doesn’t either. That’s why he’s dangerous. Naivete. And what is amazing to me is how many Americans are just sleepwalking through this coming storm. He’s shutting down the great engine of american enterprise while incurring enormous debt. He’s trying and failing to make foreign enemies into friends; and he’s making enemies of friends. Evidently the liberal media has a lot more power than I thought. It seems as long as they stay silent, so will the great majority.
I think this is going to go very badly for America and it won’t be long from now.

Randy

williars on June 29, 2009 at 10:30 PM

He’s even more dangerous if your view is the correct one – as marxist ideologue.

progressoverpeace on June 29, 2009 at 10:21 PM

Have been having this recurring nightmare of late that the Maoist Obama is sorta like Pol Pot back in the 70′s. Pol Pot, too, came in on a wave of popular support and hope and change.

Then he declared, “This is Year Zero,” and that society was about to be “purified.”

The Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot then killed off all who opposed him and the Khmer Rouge, or Pol Pot thought opposed him or might someday possibly oppose him…and anyone more educated than Pol Pot…they too were sent to the killing fields.

Are we watching a reprise of “The Year Zero” being played in slow motion?

Marxist, Fabian, Socialist, Maoist, New Age Urban Leftist …all permutations of the same lame Left ideology that has killed millions while using all sorts of high-sounding declarations of legality, popular will, the rule of law, democratic action, community organizations,with the same old same results.

coldwarrior on June 29, 2009 at 10:31 PM

Yo Allah,

Hello!!!! Stop being such a liberal, please!!

Here’s the real deal for you, OBAMA is also a Marxist/socialist, he wants leftism to advance, he’s one of them how obvious does this have to be?

BobUSMC on June 29, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Obama sees his future happening in Honduras. He is getting a little testy before the fact.

winfield on June 29, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Are we watching a reprise of “The Year Zero” being played in slow motion?

coldwarrior on June 29, 2009 at 10:31 PM

Well, all of American history and tradition has been either totally ignored, viciously lied about, or horribly denigrated.

Yep …

But, at least we know that we are one of the largest muslim nations on Earth, now. That’s got to be worth something.

progressoverpeace on June 29, 2009 at 10:44 PM

I think it’s clearly evident by now that Obama is just awful at political triangulation, especially regarding foreign policy. Credit where credit’s due, Clinton could triangulate ckillfully. In fact, I’m wondering whether Hillary’s backpedal is straight out of the Billy Jeff playbook.

Barry style is garden-variety, Chicago Machine, “I won,” “Don’t think we’re not keeping score” thug.

Christien on June 29, 2009 at 10:47 PM

I wish I kept my ’70 454 SS.

ICBM on June 29,2009 at 10:08PM.

ICBM: Yup,I hear ya! I wish,I kept my ’69 396(L-78)SS,
as well:)

canopfor on June 29, 2009 at 10:50 PM

Thank you so much for this … I needed a good laugh today.

BrideOfRove on June 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM

And may I add that this whole fiasco reminds me of high school? He’s trying so hard to get in with the “cool kids” and they keep kicking him in the teeth. This kind of thing never ends well. Unless some radio active spider bites this bozo and transforms him, we’re going to end up with a bad case of national purple nurples.

BrideOfRove on June 29, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Clinton could triangulate ckillfully. In fact, I’m wondering whether Hillary’s backpedal is straight out of the Billy Jeff playbook.

Barry style is garden-variety, Chicago Machine, “I won,” “Don’t think we’re not keeping score” thug.

Christien on June 29, 2009 at 10:47 PM

Not so much…here’s how Cletus dealt with terrorist attacks…not much successful triangulating here:

After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000; President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.

Maybe if Clinton had kept his promise, an estimated 5,000 people in New York, Pennsylvania, and Washington, D.C. who are now dead would be alive today.

AUINSC on June 29, 2009 at 11:08 PM

AP asked:

Barry’s going to eat a ton of shinola for this — but why? What’s the strategic benefit?

Late last night I posted to a similar thread, and it’s worth repeating in part here:

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It’s quite simple why Obama reacted differently in this particular situation: He shares Zelaya’s aspirations to become “President for Life”, and was apparently hoping that Zelaya would succeed in Honduras, setting a precedent, just as Chavez did in Venezuela.

The One’s Grand Plan for the runup to 2016?

1. Call for a Referendum of Americans to determine if he had their support for running for a third term as President.

2. If the “referendum” resulted in significant support, use that as justification for calling for a Constitutional Convention to amend the US Constitution.

3. Make sure the amendment is rushed, as Obama is rushing all legislation which might possibly run into major opposition among American constituency, and make sure it is onerous and verbose, making careful reading a monumental task. And make sure that the verbage includes unlimited terms for the Office of the President of the USA.

Voila! The One would, essentially, secure the title of Supreme Leader and President for Life.
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Obama is experiencing dismay at what would happen if his future plans go awry the way Zelaya’s have, with the people and the military and others stepping in to prevent him from completely undoing America’s Constitution and history in order to secure his own dictatorship and “President for Life” opportunity.

Of course he had to step up at Chavez’s challenge and denounce what happened with Zelaya! Chavez is an important player from another country who would step up to the plate once Obama takes his turn at grabbing the brass ring!

KendraWilder on June 29, 2009 at 11:43 PM

A rule of thumb here is, whenever you find yourself on the side of Hugo Chavez, Daniel Ortgega and the Castro twins, you oughta reexamine your assumptions.

God love the K-Hammer.

anticucho on June 29, 2009 at 11:45 PM

Here is a simplistic view. Maybe he didn’t want the coup to happen because he is sick and tired of having to deal with problems problems and more problems. Golly gee, why can’t things just stay the same and all he has to do are photo shoots, have parties, eat ice cream, golf with heads of state, dinners with celebrities, get the whole world to “luv” us, and enjoy being worshiped and adored.

Perhaps he just wants to swat flies too, you know, focus on the important things.

Miss Molly on June 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM

oh, and I forgot to add, bring down the Republic to the level of the rest of the world and use the Constitution as a coaster while he is at it.

Miss Molly on June 29, 2009 at 11:50 PM

Results 1 – 10 of about 600,000 for Obama “deeply concerned”. (0.39 seconds

capitalist piglet on June 29, 2009 at 11:54 PM

Exit question: If the whole government is against Zelaya, why didn’t they just impeach him?

Because a military impeachment is so much cooler.

kagai on June 29, 2009 at 11:56 PM

VIVA Honduras!!!

BobUSMC on June 30, 2009 at 12:06 AM

Because a military impeachment is so much cooler.

kagai on June 29, 2009 at 11:56 PM

It’s not even clear that such a mechanism exists in Honduras…especially since they do have a specific constitutional article that clearly states that what Zelaya was blatantly unconstitutional….2/3rds of the democratically elected government agreed. What is so hard about that..nevermind, you don’t care anyway…whatever Messiah says is good enough for you.

AUINSC on June 30, 2009 at 12:07 AM

Democracy is the American way not coup.

equality on June 29, 2009 at 9:11 PM

I’m sure the British who opposed the Continentals felt exactly that way.

unclesmrgol on June 30, 2009 at 12:15 AM

The most likely explanation is that Obama’s simply obsessed with “repairing America’s image in the world,” and if that means occasionally taking the side of a Chavista stooge to prove he’s the anti-Bush, then that’s what he’ll do.

Yes, that is it. It’s not that complicated. It’s the same reason he didn’t defend the Iranians protesting for fair and representative elections.

I mean good grief, he’s been all around the globe in the last 6 months apologizing for American arrogance to make friends and influence people.

Good lesson for Obama but I doubt he’ll learn it.

Iran accused him of meddling anyway… Chavez accused him of being involved in the coup anyway…

Instead of taking a stand he has now allowed America’s foreign policy position in these two instances to be defined by the enemy and he plays from a defensive position. What do you think Putin has planned for him?

Texas Gal on June 30, 2009 at 12:17 AM

Texas Gal on June 30, 2009 at 12:17 AM

Well then, he’s either an idiot or a marxist…hard to tell…except an idiot’s behavior would more than likely be random…his decisions always seem to go the same way…against US interests…by US, of course, I mean the pre-Obama US.

AUINSC on June 30, 2009 at 12:24 AM

Because a military impeachment is so much cooler.

kagai on June 29, 2009 at 11:56 PM

It’s not even clear that such a mechanism exists in Honduras…especially since they do have a specific constitutional article that clearly states that what Zelaya was blatantly unconstitutional….2/3rds of the democratically elected government agreed. What is so hard about that..nevermind, you don’t care anyway…whatever Messiah says is good enough for you.

What is your problem? It was a joke. And I totally agree with what the Honduran government did Maybe, you should step away from your computer and go breathe some fresh air!

kagai on June 30, 2009 at 12:27 AM

kagai on June 30, 2009 at 12:27 AM

Sorry, but your ‘joke’ definitely needed a /sarc tag dude. Other than that, we’re cool.

AUINSC on June 30, 2009 at 12:41 AM

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