WSJ: White House tried to prevent Honduran president’s ouster

posted at 7:32 pm on June 28, 2009 by Allahpundit

Via Gateway Pundit. I understood The One’s logic for not wanting to meddle in Iran. I don’t understand his logic for wanting to meddle in Honduras.

Reaction to the apparent coup was swift. U.S. President Barack Obama said he was “deeply concerned” and called on all political actors in Honduras to “respect democratic norms, the rule of law and the tenets of the Inter-American Democratic Charter. Any existing tensions and disputes must be resolved peacefully through dialogue free from any outside interference,” he said.

The Obama administration worked in recent days to prevent President Zelaya’s ouster, a senior U.S. official said. The State Department, in particular, communicated to Honduran officials on the ground that President Obama wouldn’t support any non-democratic transfer of power in the Central American country.

“We had some indication” that a move against Mr. Zelaya was a foot, said a U.S. official briefed on the diplomacy. “We made it clear it was something we didn’t support.”

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton joined Mr. Obama Sunday in criticizing the Honduran coup and calling for the restoration of the democratic process.

“We call on all parties in Honduras to respect the constitutional order and the rule of law, to reaffirm their democratic vocation, and to commit themselves to resolve political disputes peacefully and through dialogue,” Mrs. Clinton said in a statement.

Read Fausta’s amazing round-up of what happened here. In a nutshell, Zelaya wanted another term as president so he decided to hold a popular referendum on whether he should be eligible. Minor problem: The Honduran constitution can’t be amended by popular referendum so the country’s supreme court ordered the vote canceled. Zelaya tried to go ahead with it anyway. Literally every other arm of the Honduran government — judiciary, legislature, military — was against him, to the point where the troops who arrested him this morning were evidently acting on a court order. Why such strong, unified opposition? According to one retired Honduran general cited by Fausta, it’s because Zelaya’s a Chavez stooge and him staying on would mean “Chavez would eventually be running Honduras by proxy.” Two questions, then. One: In their rush to drool all over themselves about “the rule of law,” do Obama and Hillary realize that it’s Zelaya who was flouting the rule of law here? I know The One’s a big believer in executive power but even he’d acknowledge that defying an order from the Supreme Court crosses the line (I think). And two: Why is Team Barry siding with Zelaya instead of simply staying out of it? The White House proved with Iran that they’re capable of maintaining very tactful silences for excruciatingly long periods of time. Yet today we’ve got not only the secretary of state but the president himself rushing out statements. Is this some kind of half-assed attempt to make nice with Chavez now that relations have been restored by supporting one of his cronies? What am I missing here?

Update: Yep, the military acted on a court order. It’s not clear to me, though, why they felt compelled to have Zelaya arrested and ousted considering that the rest of the government, including the army, was against him. Presumably his enemies feared that he’d win the illegal referendum if it went ahead and that would galvanize public support for changing the constitution. Although a coup’s going to have a galvanizing effect of its own, no?

Here’s a possible explanation for why The One was so quick to denounce this:

The Honduran armed forces have however had historic links with the US, dating back to the Contras, the armed groups that were backed by the Central Intelligence Agency to topple the Left-wing Sandinista regime of Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua. Mr Ortega is once again president of Honduras’s neighbour. The army has a long history of involvement in politics and governed Honduras from 1956 to 1982…

Mr Chavez, with more than a decade in power, began his reforms in Venezuela by holding a Constituent Assembly and changing the constitution. Mr Zelaya had stated that he wished to do the same and that the referendum was supposed to be the first step.

I guess Team Barry figured that if they didn’t come out loudly against this, suspicions inside the country about the military being in cahoots with the U.S. would fester. Eh. They’ll fester anyway.

Update: Commenter “elduende” sums up The One’s dilemma nicely: “Someone is going to be left holding the short end of the stick on this one. Will Obama stand by while Venezuela uses force to install their lackey in Honduras? Thus siding with Chavez and crushing democracy in Honduras. Or will he stand with the democratic institutions in Honduras as they seek to reassert their democratic rights and risk being labelled just another in a long line of ‘typical yankee presidents.’”


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Iranian pro democracy? No…Honduras pro Chavez? yes.

Simple as that.

Terrye on June 29, 2009 at 7:02 AM

Ousted Pres. Zelaya meets today with Chavez to coordinate return to power.

(Even Costa Rican leftist, Oscar Arena, supports Zelaya. Arena is usually considered a sane leftist.)

JiangxiDad on June 29, 2009 at 7:18 AM

Right or wrong in the details, I don’t see the Army storming the palace gates as a good thing. I hear state tv has been shut down and a curfew imposed. When the Mullah’s thugs did some of those things last week everyone on this site RIGHTLY condemned these tactics. But when the president of Honduras is a friend of Chavez any tactics are A-OK. The modern day rightwing conservative mindset on full display….again.

athensboy on June 29, 2009 at 7:22 AM

SouthernGent on June 28, 2009 at 11:34 PM

Nah, the one she married toughened her up. Besides, if she were so smart, how did Bozo beat her? You can’t believe their hype. They may have attended prestigious schools, but that doesn’t mean jack.

One can graduate with a lot of C’s and D’s

dogsoldier on June 29, 2009 at 7:38 AM

athensboy on June 29, 2009 at 7:22 AM

What are you complaining about? Your boy Obama calls this kind of thing a robust debate! And, like Iran, the filthy liar in the White House is on the side of the tyrants- which is understandable considering the bastard is nothing more than a Chicago street thug.

highhopes on June 29, 2009 at 7:40 AM

gee Obama supporting another dictator what a surprise!!! right…

right4life on June 29, 2009 at 7:41 AM

Anyone else think athensboy might be AP in drag?

MikeA on June 29, 2009 at 7:47 AM

athensboy on June 29, 2009 at 7:22 AM

Civilian control was never lost, the Honduran Supreme Court, the Honduran Congress and the new president are and have been in control. State TV is not off the air, don’t you mean TeleSur? (the Hugo Chavez propaganda channel has been censored). The curfew was called by the president because of the risk of violence by Chavez supporters. And the Honduran military is now on full alert nationwide because Obama’s buddies Chavez and Ortega “declared war” yesterday afternoon and there have been reports overnight that Nicaraguan troops crossed the Honduran border.

Aunque los países del Alba respaldan a Zelaya, Chávez negó que tropas venezolanas y nicaragüenses hallan ingresado a territorio hondureño como se denunció anoche en un medio televisivo. “Nunca lo haríamos por el sacrosanto respeto a la soberanía de Honduras. No se trata de invasión ni de guerra”. Llamó al pueblo de Honduras a “no aceptar esa dictadura” y a los militares a que “neutralicen el golpe”.

http://www.laprensahn.com/Ediciones/2009/06/29/Noticias/No-vamos-a-irrespetar-la-soberania-de-Honduras

Chavez has denied this but he’s calling for “resistance” to the civilian govenrment of Honduras…

Does Obama agree with Chavez who now wants a violent overthrow of the Honduran Congress, Supreme Court, and military?

Tell me troll, do you think Obama should push Honduras into civil war over a Chavez flunkie that was removed legally under the legal authority granted by the Honduran Constitution?

elduende on June 29, 2009 at 7:50 AM

I’ll bet Barry got 65-75% of the Honduran-American vote. So there you go. The the 80% of Jews who voted for him only to watching him throw Israel under the bus, Hondurans may learn a lesson from this.

angryed on June 29, 2009 at 8:18 AM

athensboy on June 29, 2009 at 7:22 AM

I fully agree with you. Obama’s duplicity in his int’l dealings has caught up with him. He’s not only proving to be a huge failure domestically, with more and more people against his actual policies, but rapidly proving to be a disaster internationally. Hope n change has morphed into despair. But luckily, 2010 is just around the corner. Hold on.

JiangxiDad on June 29, 2009 at 8:24 AM

It’s a matter of taking notes:

Iran: little to no comment while Barry takes notes on how his cronies go about crushing protest (shutting of cell phones and internet, phone taps, kidnappings, random murders, etc.)

Honduras: stop the coup so WE can’t take notes on how to get Barry out of office when he and ACORN try to put his illegal referendum in place.

scituate_tgr on June 29, 2009 at 8:24 AM

Shame on President Obama.

Shame on the United States of America.

These are dark days indeed.

Saltysam on June 29, 2009 at 8:27 AM

Iran: little to no comment while Barry takes notes on how his cronies go about crushing protest (shutting of cell phones and internet, phone taps, kidnappings, random murders, etc.)

scituate_tgr on June 29, 2009 at 8:24 AM

Hey what with the ice cream trip and the PR campaign to paint him as father of the year, the filthy liar in the White House was simply too busy to deal with that boring international affairs stuff. The bastard simply isn’t interested if he isn’t the center of attention.

highhopes on June 29, 2009 at 8:32 AM

Makes sense to me that he tried to intervene. Zelaya wanted to do away with term limits and stay president. Don’t you think Obama would like that too? He could say things like “look how well it worked in Honduras” and his followers would say “it’s time we made some changes…”

Miss Molly on June 29, 2009 at 8:36 AM

The logic is very simple.
In both cases, Obama is supporting the politicians that hate America the most.

MarkTheGreat on June 29, 2009 at 8:43 AM

highhopes on June 29, 2009 at 8:32 AM: Hey what with the ice cream trip and the PR campaign to paint him as father of the year, the filthy liar in the White House was simply too busy to deal with that boring international affairs stuff. The bastard simply isn’t interested if he isn’t the center of attention.

Right. Libtards … Sorry, I forgot to get distracted.

scituate_tgr on June 29, 2009 at 8:49 AM

So is Obama working with Chavez on this? Why else would he care that Zelaya stays in power?

http://www.therightscoop.com/obama-the-voice-of-democracy/

therightscoop on June 29, 2009 at 8:59 AM

What would Putin do?

faraway on June 29, 2009 at 9:02 AM

C squared O squared = C2O2
Chevaz Castro Ortega Obama

It all fits

MikeA on June 29, 2009 at 9:04 AM

Chavez Castro Ortega Obama all agree on the matter of remiving term limits on presidents. “Yes We Can”

MikeA on June 29, 2009 at 9:06 AM

danged keyboard

MikeA on June 29, 2009 at 9:06 AM

So is Obama working with Chavez on this? Why else would he care that Zelaya stays in power?

Yes. Obama has to prove his bona fides to the dictators, leftists, and fascists of the world, that he’s one of them. He tried to let Andy in Iran know, by holding back any criticism. This Honduras thing is to get Chavez and Castro Bruhs to like him.

btw, the leftist Kirschners in Argentina just lost both houses of Congress in their elections. Good news for freedom loving peoples, bad news for Obama.

JiangxiDad on June 29, 2009 at 9:09 AM

athensboy on June 29, 2009 at 7:22 AM

The army acted under the framework of the Honduran constitution.

Zelaya was in the palace illegally, and was claiming power over the entire country, when he had NO power whatsoever under the constitution.

The army was obligated to protect the Constitution from a coup d’tat, and did so under the orders of the Supreme Court, following the direct order to arrest anyone attempting to carry out the coup “referendum”(a referendum not allowed to be made by the executive branch, thus unconsitutional) by the Attorney General.

The people appear to be in a state of fear that they will lose their democracy and are proud of the way their institutions have worked in this case. Their fear has not ebbed, though, given the apparent disregard the OAS and the White House have for Honduran law.

You, obviously, are desperate to rely on the talking points that the international Left is going to march with…call it a military coup, and leave out the entire story.

Then again, you love Chavez style coups though, donchya? Suddenly…this week, US “meddling” is not an issue. Instead, the White House and the State Department come to the aid of Castro and Chavez.

Hmmmmmm.

The modern day leftwing Statist mindset on full display….again.

Saltysam on June 29, 2009 at 9:12 AM

athensboy on June 29, 2009 at 7:22 AM

Courage.

a capella on June 29, 2009 at 9:17 AM

What would Putin do?

faraway on June 29, 2009 at 9:02 AM

Candidate for most effective political ad 2010.

Saltysam on June 29, 2009 at 9:17 AM

Obama read a note somewhere about a President being removed by the military, and acted on the assumption that the military was in the wrong. I’m not surprised.

But Hillary was also against it – wasn’t she supposed to be the wiser, more experienced foreign policy candidate? Turns out they’re BOTH lightweights. Was there a Dem running whose election wouldn’t have been bad news for America?

hawksruleva on June 29, 2009 at 9:23 AM

Of course, if Obama digs deeper into this story, I can see him going “re-write the Constitution… that might just work!”

hawksruleva on June 29, 2009 at 9:25 AM

Right or wrong in the details, I don’t see the Army storming the palace gates as a good thing.

The modern day rightwing conservative mindset on full display….again.

athensboy on June 29, 2009 at 7:22 AM

Hahahaha. Ah those pesky “details” — like Zelaya’s blatant attempt to violate the specific provisions of the Honduran constitution with an illegal referendum, a referendum that was almost certainly going to be rigged? Or like the fact that the Honduran military was enforcing Honduran law by carrying out a valid court order to remove the lawbreaking Zelaya from office? Ah yes, how dare those Hondurans presume to act within their own law to remove a president who was deliberately violating their laws and abusing his office? Don’t they know Obama is so much smarter than they are?

The idiot Liberal mindset on full display again. Coulter was right. Liberalism really is a mental disease.

AZCoyote on June 29, 2009 at 9:25 AM

Obama read a note somewhere about a President former president being escorted by the military…

Sorry, had to FIFY.

Saltysam on June 29, 2009 at 9:28 AM

My apologizes if this has already been said…we’ve finally elected a president worse than Jimmy Carter.

moonsbreath on June 29, 2009 at 9:33 AM

Legalizing drug use, or more accurately, decriminalization, would de-fang international drug trafficking organizations and free Honduras of the financial burden of attempting to impose drug prohibition, Zelaya said. “The trade of arms, drugs and people… are scourges on the international economy, and we are unable to provide effective responses” because of the global drug prohibition regime, Zelaya said Monday at the opening of the 18th meeting of regional leaders against drug trafficking.
Why Obama supports Zelaya.

fourdeucer on June 29, 2009 at 9:37 AM

When the Mullah’s thugs did some of those things last week everyone on this site RIGHTLY condemned these tactics. But when the president of Honduras is a friend of Chavez any tactics are A-OK.

athensboy on June 29, 2009 at 7:22 AM

I missed the part where the Mullahs, acting on constitutional law ordered the Republican Guard to arrest and escort A-Jad from the presidential palace after claiming power unlawfully.

Instead, the Mullahs had the living s&%t beat out of the protesters. Killed a few along the way, too.

Pathetic post, dude. Pathetic.

Saltysam on June 29, 2009 at 9:50 AM

It’s not really meddling when you’re just helping one of your Socialist buddies. Just sayin’

infidel4life on June 29, 2009 at 9:56 AM

how dare those Hondurans presume to act within their own law to remove a president who was deliberately violating their laws and abusing his office?

AZCoyote on June 29, 2009 at 9:25 AM

We need to find a way to do that here.

infidel4life on June 29, 2009 at 10:00 AM

The army acted under the framework of the Honduran constitution.

Saltysam on June 29, 2009 at 9:12 AM

If only our military would act under the framework of the US Constitution.

Daggett on June 29, 2009 at 10:00 AM

it’s because Zelaya’s a Chavez stooge and him staying on would mean “Chavez would eventually be running Honduras by proxy.”

And now you know why Barry wanted to intervene.

Vashta.Nerada on June 29, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Shame on President Obama.

Shame on the United States of America.

These are dark days indeed.

Saltysam on June 29, 2009 at 8:27 AM

Perhaps we need a court order?

Oh I guess thats’ out of the question we can’t even get a copy of a valid birth certificate, college papers, any written Harvard Law Reviews any record of who paid for college or anything other than voting present!

Perhaps we need a Revolution! HERE!

dhunter on June 29, 2009 at 10:12 AM

how dare those Hondurans presume to act within their own law to remove a president who was deliberately violating their laws and abusing his office?

AZCoyote on June 29, 2009 at 9:25 AM

The above will become known as “The Obama Way”.Everyday he is showing his true nature.

easyone on June 29, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Obama is as dirty as they come.

alliebobbitt on June 29, 2009 at 10:20 AM

I wish the nation of Honduras the best of luck. They’re not out of the woods yet.

Chaz706 on June 29, 2009 at 10:23 AM

What I found interesting was that according to O’Frady at WSJ the ballots for this perculiar Honduran elections were printed in Venezuela.

Maybe, we need to check who gets the contract for ballot printing in the 2010.

:)

El Coqui on June 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM

I mean O’Grady.

El Coqui on June 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM

C squared O squared = C2O2
Chevaz Castro Ortega Obama

It all fits

MikeA on June 29, 2009 at 9:04 AM

Throw Ahmadinejad into the mix and you get “COCOA”, the new Cadre of Tyrannical Presidents.

Chavez
Obama
Castro
Ortega
Ahmadinejad

Too bad I can’t quite figure out how to fit Zelaya in there

AverageJoe on June 29, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Too bad I can’t quite figure out how to fit Zelaya in there

AverageJoe on June 29, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Don’t sweat it. If all goes well in Honduras, you won’t have to.

Man… it’s feels so good to say that. At least one nation’s got it’s act together!

Chaz706 on June 29, 2009 at 10:35 AM

I’m not seeing much in the news about this story — and what I am seeing completely leaves out the part about the president violating the constitution. What’s going on, here?

Count to 10 on June 29, 2009 at 10:42 AM

To all leftists that read this blog, would you not support the US Military (backed by the SCOTUS) had they removed Bush after he attempted to hold a referendum to abolish term limits in year 8? Even if they stormed the White House? True, it may come across as “barbaric,” but what would it say about the political culture if a United States President attempted to hold a referendum on term limits? That’s barbaric if you ask me. True, you could argue with the very specific example of Bush, he wasn’t very popular at the end, but does this really change your answer?

Upstater85 on June 29, 2009 at 10:46 AM

For some perspective…

http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?forumID=6660&edition=2&ttl=20090629154746

I cannot express the happiness and sense of relief I felt the moment I woke up today and found out that the EX president of Honduras had been removed from the country. As crazy as it can seem and amid all the tension just knowing he was taken out of power gave me a sense of security and for the first time in the week I felt safe and happy for my country. Honduras is a democratic country and nobody should try to mess with it. Today we showed the world that we will fight to save our independence.

Carolina, Tegucigalpa, Honduras

The international community has condemned the heroic acts of the Honduran people. We have legally overthrown the most corrupt president in the history of Honduras, this was no coup d’etat this was simply the law working against a criminal like Manuel Zelaya. We will not stand by and have our country be hijacked by the tyranny and opression of Chavez and his oil money. Please help us turn the public opinion against the thieves of Chavez and Zelaya!

Daniel, Tegucigalpa

I’m sure the BBC and SOA are working together on this one… /sarc

Upstater85 on June 29, 2009 at 10:51 AM

The modern day rightwing conservative mindset on full display….again.

athensboy on June 29, 2009 at 7:22 AM

True. We believe in the rule of law and absolute resistance to tyrants. As well as an ability to see false equivalences such as yours. Zelaya was thrown out because he insisted on conducting an unconstitutional referendum banned by the Supreme Court of that country. Zelaya fired one general for refusing to distribute the ballots to illegally change the Honduran Constitution. The rest of civilian government decided that the lawless acts of Zelaya demanded his ouster before this Chavez stooge managed to destroy Honduran democracy.

Yeah, it is only like Iran if you support tyrants and our enemies. That is the only equivalence.

iconoclast on June 29, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Oh, and what is the difference between Iran and Honduras? Pay attention trolls!

The reason so many cons were sympathetic to the Iranian protesters was not simply because they were being denied basic human rights… No, it was also because after participating in a government sanctioned, shall we say, referendum, it still didn’t count.

Now in Honduras, I’m pretty sure Zelaya’s referendum was not sanctioned by the government.

This is not to say that if Iran had not had elections, cons would not push for reform. That said, even with the most likely fraudulent election, many cons simply were saying that Custard Licking Obama should simply come out with a strong statement promising that the United States would always support individual freedoms and liberalized societies… still haven’t seen that statement.

Obama has proved the opposite. He has shown that he actually has no problem supporting corrupt dictators in the name of democracy (read The Republic, trolls – I’m sure Obama has)… Whereas he had trouble even bringing up his beloved democracy (much less liberty) while Neda was bleeding out. Hmmm… Why is that?

Upstater85 on June 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Obamathink:
1 Easier to appease an enemy than fight.
2 Easier to make deals with an executive ruler than democratic intsitutions.

so…..

1 Make nice to Chavez & S.A. leftists to avoid trouble down south.
2 Over-riding term limits could come in handy at home too.

clear it up 4 u AP?

Reality Check on June 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Don’t sweat it. If all goes well in Honduras, you won’t have to.

Man… it’s feels so good to say that. At least one nation’s got it’s act together!

Chaz706 on June 29, 2009 at 10:35 AM

My relatives come from Honduras. I also pray that cooler heads prevail in that country, but Chavez (and Ortega) are not “cooler” heads. Obama basically gave his approval to whatever they plan by backing Zalaya, and now they will blame Micheletti (new president) as inciting the military action. It will be played out as a battle of classes, Zalaya for the “poor”, and Micheletti for the “rich”. The poor are usually the most easy to manipulate by tyrants because they are predominantly uneducated and dependent on the government. Sound familiar.

Interestingly, I spent much of yesterday watching “CNN en español” (Spanish CNN). All day they lead with “Golpe en Honduras” (Coup in Honduras). After Micheletti was sworn in and laid out in his speech how this was all done legally, CNN changed their lead to “Succession Forzada en Honduras” (Forced succession in Honduras). Words have meanings. If only the few US news outlets covering this between the Michael Jackson coverage would stop calling it a military coup.

AverageJoe on June 29, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Via Drudge, the W.S.J. has a spot on update to this: Honduras Defends Its Democracy – Fidel Castro and Hillary Clinton object.

Buy Danish on June 29, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Hey athensboy… chew on this:

What business does Chavez have sending ballots to Honduras for this ‘referendum’?

Chaz706 on June 29, 2009 at 11:04 AM

I think the Drudge headlines say it all:

Chavez threatens military action…

Army ousts president in vote dispute…

Cuba condemns…

OBAMA DEEPLY CONCERNED…

WSJ: Honduras Defends Its Democracy; Hillary Clinton objects…

Vashta.Nerada on June 29, 2009 at 11:15 AM

2010 is just around the corner. Hold on.

What makes you think l’Il Duce won’t follow his buddies in Tehran and declare a winner in those elections before any votes are counted? The Democrats could pile up the greatest electoral victory in history in 2010 under the Leadership of their G-d.

lonesomecharlie on June 29, 2009 at 11:24 AM

WE NEED AN IMPEACH OBAMA PETITION ASAP!!!

moonbatkiller on June 29, 2009 at 11:39 AM

Is it possible Obama sees his own future in this event – that he fears the same could happen to him if he pushes his socialist agenda much further down our throats? People who over throw the rule of law as he has done over and over unleash a chaos they can manipulate but never control. Iran was a stolen election. Honduras was well past that mile stone.

FerfeLaBat on June 29, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Right or wrong in the details, I don’t see the Army storming the palace gates as a good thing. I hear state tv has been shut down and a curfew imposed. When the Mullah’s thugs did some of those things last week everyone on this site RIGHTLY condemned these tactics. But when the president of Honduras is a friend of Chavez any tactics are A-OK. The modern day rightwing conservative mindset on full display….again.

athensboy on June 29, 2009 at 7:22 AM

I`m sorry did you miss the part that Zalaya was breaking the law?

LSUMama on June 29, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Here. This is what I mean. The WSJ:

Hugo Chávez’s coalition-building efforts suffered a setback yesterday when the Honduran military sent its president packing for abusing the nation’s constitution.

~ Honduras Defends Its Democracy

I can see us reaching that tipping point quite easily. The Press are not doing their jobs. The Congress are buried so deep in the cess pit they’ll never see daylight again. The Supreme Court is on a power mad tear. Who else is there when a nation falls into entropy BUT the military?

FerfeLaBat on June 29, 2009 at 11:47 AM

The modern day leftwing Statist mindset on full display….again.

Saltysam on June 29, 2009 at 9:12 AM

Thank you. Stated perfect.

LSUMama on June 29, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Why do you suppose Obama is trying so desparately to build his own private civilian army and defund the military. they are a potential threat to him – just as the President of Honduras discovered. So. Yes. I can see why Obama is more involved in setting that badness back on track. It is the same rail he is riding.

FerfeLaBat on June 29, 2009 at 11:49 AM

What I found interesting was that according to O’Frady at WSJ the ballots for this perculiar Honduran elections were printed in Venezuela.

Maybe, we need to check who gets the contract for ballot printing in the 2010.

:)

El Coqui on June 29, 2009 at 10:25 AM

HAHAHAHAHA! So true.

LSUMama on June 29, 2009 at 11:52 AM

It’s not surprising that chavistas throughout the region are claiming that he was victim of a military coup. They want to hide the fact that the military was acting on a court order to defend the rule of law and the constitution, and that the Congress asserted itself for that purpose, too.

He was breaking the law. Just as in Columbia, Chavez is trying to destabilize a neighbor through a back door. The fact that Chavez, Castro, Clinton and Obama all agree on this tells you exactly how screw we are her ourselves.

FerfeLaBat on June 29, 2009 at 11:54 AM

I’m not seeing much in the news about this story — and what I am seeing completely leaves out the part about the president violating the constitution. What’s going on, here?

Count to 10 on June 29, 2009 at 10:42 AM

Propaganda.

LSUMama on June 29, 2009 at 11:57 AM

When can we start openly talking about impeachment? How many times must Obama prove himself to be less than a true American? How many more poicies must he engage in to ruin our economy?

This man acts as if he’s From Kenya, not the United States. Is he? Four years is long enough for him to ruin this nation. Who’s man is he? Do we allow this destruction to continue?

Ernest on June 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM

This man acts as if he’s From Kenya, not the United States. Is he? Four years is long enough for him to ruin this nation. Who’s man is he? Do we allow this destruction to continue?

Ernest on June 29, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Let’s not insult Kenya here. A lot of people born in Kenya are pretty cool. ;-)

FerfeLaBat on June 29, 2009 at 12:27 PM

Yanqui Obama, Go Home!

Christien on June 29, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Really, ahh, umm err the problem is with ahh err umm the Honduran Constitution.[/obambi]

jukin on June 29, 2009 at 1:09 PM

I understood The One’s logic for not wanting to meddle in Iran. I don’t understand his logic for wanting to meddle in Honduras.

I don’t know about Obama’s “logic,” but as for his reasoning, I’d venture to say that no head of state is entirely pleased by the ouster of a head of state, in almost any circumstances. (Sloppy readers, please take note of the word “entirely.”) A leftist head of state seems likely to be especially displeased by the ouster of a leftist head of state by violence or the threat of it.

Kralizec on June 29, 2009 at 1:38 PM

Is it really a “coup” when they are acting on court order?

PersonalLiberty on June 29, 2009 at 3:06 PM

Ah yes, how dare those Hondurans presume to act within their own law to remove a president who was deliberately violating their laws and abusing his office? Don’t they know Obama is so much smarter than they are?

The idiot Liberal mindset on full display again. Coulter was right. Liberalism really is a mental disease

Libs have this idea that all law is global so it is okay to use law from other countries and constitutions and our own when it suites them. Somewhere there exist a “Rule of Law” that supports barry and his disciples. For example, take the mantra of “Seperation of Church and State”. It is not in our constitution, but it did exist in the Constitution of the Soviet Union.
As to the concern that barry is planning the same thing and thinks of himself as an FDR; FDR got what he wanted by appointing supreme court judges that would rule in his favor, the sort that Sotomayor is.

Franklyn on June 29, 2009 at 3:31 PM

Venezuela President Hugo Chávez, a close ally of Mr. Zelaya and nemesis of the U.S….

I think that puts Obama’s stance in proper perspective. I’m guessing the three have rather a lot in common, philosophically speaking.

Blacklake on June 29, 2009 at 4:10 PM

Harridan Clinton is calling this a coup now. Yet another marxist gasbag heard from.

dogsoldier on June 29, 2009 at 4:13 PM

Right or wrong in the details, I don’t see the Army storming the palace gates as a good thing.

athensboy on June 29, 2009 at 7:22 AM

The details really don’t matter to you? What matters more is the unquestioned, unchallenged abuse of power? That is tyranny. That is absolutely why Obama condemns it (the challenging of Zelaya). Just as he condemns our/his Constitution.

Follow the rule of man and you have tyranny with explicit support from the likes of athensboy and fellow Obama supporters. Follow the rule of law and you get a just and responsible society. Consent of the governed. Republic.

anuts on June 29, 2009 at 5:32 PM

Is it really a “coup” when they are acting on court order?

PersonalLiberty on June 29, 2009 at 3:06 PM

Only if one believes that man is above the law.

anuts on June 29, 2009 at 5:34 PM

I’m giving 2 to 1 odds that Barry will go for a third and fourth term. The cup of piss is nothing if not a dictator.

Griz on June 29, 2009 at 8:53 PM

Is it really a “coup” when they are acting on court order?

PersonalLiberty on June 29, 2009 at 3:06 PM

Don’t be coy, “PersonalLiberty.” Go ahead and make your case one way or the other.

Kralizec on June 29, 2009 at 10:25 PM

so, if things escalate, is there some way that we can donate our money to the cause of democracy in honduras, even if the dipshit in charge won’t? Because to be very serious, even if our “president” sides with chavez, I’d give of my own earnings to defend freedom.

jollycynic on June 29, 2009 at 10:28 PM

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