WSJ: White House tried to prevent Honduran president’s ouster

posted at 7:32 pm on June 28, 2009 by Allahpundit

Via Gateway Pundit. I understood The One’s logic for not wanting to meddle in Iran. I don’t understand his logic for wanting to meddle in Honduras.

Reaction to the apparent coup was swift. U.S. President Barack Obama said he was “deeply concerned” and called on all political actors in Honduras to “respect democratic norms, the rule of law and the tenets of the Inter-American Democratic Charter. Any existing tensions and disputes must be resolved peacefully through dialogue free from any outside interference,” he said.

The Obama administration worked in recent days to prevent President Zelaya’s ouster, a senior U.S. official said. The State Department, in particular, communicated to Honduran officials on the ground that President Obama wouldn’t support any non-democratic transfer of power in the Central American country.

“We had some indication” that a move against Mr. Zelaya was a foot, said a U.S. official briefed on the diplomacy. “We made it clear it was something we didn’t support.”

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton joined Mr. Obama Sunday in criticizing the Honduran coup and calling for the restoration of the democratic process.

“We call on all parties in Honduras to respect the constitutional order and the rule of law, to reaffirm their democratic vocation, and to commit themselves to resolve political disputes peacefully and through dialogue,” Mrs. Clinton said in a statement.

Read Fausta’s amazing round-up of what happened here. In a nutshell, Zelaya wanted another term as president so he decided to hold a popular referendum on whether he should be eligible. Minor problem: The Honduran constitution can’t be amended by popular referendum so the country’s supreme court ordered the vote canceled. Zelaya tried to go ahead with it anyway. Literally every other arm of the Honduran government — judiciary, legislature, military — was against him, to the point where the troops who arrested him this morning were evidently acting on a court order. Why such strong, unified opposition? According to one retired Honduran general cited by Fausta, it’s because Zelaya’s a Chavez stooge and him staying on would mean “Chavez would eventually be running Honduras by proxy.” Two questions, then. One: In their rush to drool all over themselves about “the rule of law,” do Obama and Hillary realize that it’s Zelaya who was flouting the rule of law here? I know The One’s a big believer in executive power but even he’d acknowledge that defying an order from the Supreme Court crosses the line (I think). And two: Why is Team Barry siding with Zelaya instead of simply staying out of it? The White House proved with Iran that they’re capable of maintaining very tactful silences for excruciatingly long periods of time. Yet today we’ve got not only the secretary of state but the president himself rushing out statements. Is this some kind of half-assed attempt to make nice with Chavez now that relations have been restored by supporting one of his cronies? What am I missing here?

Update: Yep, the military acted on a court order. It’s not clear to me, though, why they felt compelled to have Zelaya arrested and ousted considering that the rest of the government, including the army, was against him. Presumably his enemies feared that he’d win the illegal referendum if it went ahead and that would galvanize public support for changing the constitution. Although a coup’s going to have a galvanizing effect of its own, no?

Here’s a possible explanation for why The One was so quick to denounce this:

The Honduran armed forces have however had historic links with the US, dating back to the Contras, the armed groups that were backed by the Central Intelligence Agency to topple the Left-wing Sandinista regime of Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua. Mr Ortega is once again president of Honduras’s neighbour. The army has a long history of involvement in politics and governed Honduras from 1956 to 1982…

Mr Chavez, with more than a decade in power, began his reforms in Venezuela by holding a Constituent Assembly and changing the constitution. Mr Zelaya had stated that he wished to do the same and that the referendum was supposed to be the first step.

I guess Team Barry figured that if they didn’t come out loudly against this, suspicions inside the country about the military being in cahoots with the U.S. would fester. Eh. They’ll fester anyway.

Update: Commenter “elduende” sums up The One’s dilemma nicely: “Someone is going to be left holding the short end of the stick on this one. Will Obama stand by while Venezuela uses force to install their lackey in Honduras? Thus siding with Chavez and crushing democracy in Honduras. Or will he stand with the democratic institutions in Honduras as they seek to reassert their democratic rights and risk being labelled just another in a long line of ‘typical yankee presidents.’”


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I can’t figure out whether this administration is intentionally doing all these things for some wacked-out reason, or if they all really are clinically retarded.

KSgop on June 28, 2009 at 7:36 PM

It’s BHO’s longstanding pattern of dissing democracies & embracing thugs.

jgapinoy on June 28, 2009 at 7:36 PM

stop comparing Apples and oranges.

Obama did his best to stop the coup in Honduras because unlike Iran the CIA has never backed a coup of a democratic elected government

equality on June 28, 2009 at 7:36 PM

correction I mean Obama has never backed a coup of a democratic elected government NOT the CIA

equality on June 28, 2009 at 7:37 PM

If the referendum isn’t valid anyway, why the need to arrest him?

Speedwagon82 on June 28, 2009 at 7:38 PM

Leftists, whether they’re Chavez, Obama, Pelosi, etc. don’t care about the rule of law. They’ve so convinced themselves of their moral superiority that their desired ends justify any means.

blue13326 on June 28, 2009 at 7:38 PM

I wish Obama would observe the constitution and the rule of law in this country.

deewhybee on June 28, 2009 at 7:38 PM

What am I missing here?

Bumbling incompetence?

trubble on June 28, 2009 at 7:39 PM

Of course Obama would have preferred that this leftist buddy stay in power.

rplat on June 28, 2009 at 7:41 PM

I know The One’s a big believer in executive power but even he’d acknowledge that defying an order from the Supreme Court crosses the line (I think).

No, no, no. That gets into the Constitutional limitations on his power that he thinks are so unfairly restrictive. It is exactly such lines that he wants to do away with.

backwoods conservative on June 28, 2009 at 7:42 PM

Birds of a red star, thug together.

To all unsuspecting Americans that elected these idiots, have you gotten a clue yet?

Hening on June 28, 2009 at 7:42 PM

KSgop on June 28, 2009 at 7:36 PM

As for me, I’m going with your subordinate clause. How stupid can one Marxist be?

sondiehl on June 28, 2009 at 7:43 PM

Uhhhhbama clearly doesn’t want to see a precedent set of presidents being given the heave ho…… same with Iran, if you think about it.

darwin-t on June 28, 2009 at 7:44 PM

U.S. President Barack Obama said he was “deeply concerned” and called on all political actors in Honduras to “respect democratic norms, the rule of law and the tenets of the Inter-American Democratic Charter. Any existing tensions and disputes must be resolved peacefully through dialogue free from any outside interference,” he said.

So is that what he’s going to say if the American people rise up and kick him to the curb?

boomer on June 28, 2009 at 7:45 PM

They didn’t kill enough protesters for Obama to shut up.

the_nile on June 28, 2009 at 7:45 PM

Was Zelaya born in Honduras?

Wyatt Wingfoot on June 28, 2009 at 7:45 PM

because he is fascist leftist that and Obama wants to make nice.

rob verdi on June 28, 2009 at 7:45 PM

It’s BHO’s longstanding pattern of dissing democracies & embracing thugs.

jgapinoy on June 28, 2009 at 7:36 PM

–Send “Churchill” back to the UK, give stupid gifts to the Queen & the UK PM.
–Greet Hugo the Evil Clown with a huge smile & accept his gift of an anti-American screed.
–Enter a kind of cold war with Germany’s conservative PM Merkel.
–Patiently & attentively listen to that anti-American speech in the Latin American summit (which reminded him of many of Wright’s sermons).
–Give a speech to the brutal, oppressive Arab world about how wonderful they are & how awful we are.
And on & on.

jgapinoy on June 28, 2009 at 7:47 PM

Allahpundit: What am I missing here?

Iran’s regime is anti-American and anti-Israel. Obama appeases them despite what appears to be the flagrant riging of an election, and the brutal suppression of protesters.

President Zelaya is a leftist ally of Hugo Chavez who is anti-American and anti-Israel. Obama is quiet about Zelaya’s violation of a court order, but loudly protests his removal.

So, Obama is not consistent in avoiding interference in the internal affairs of another country, and is not consistent in supporting the rule of law in another country, but is consistent in supporting or at least appeasing anti-American and anti-Israeli world leaders.

Loxodonta on June 28, 2009 at 7:47 PM

Barry The One is simply showing solidarity with his Socialist cronies.

ronsfi on June 28, 2009 at 7:47 PM

Maybe Honduras poses little threat because is a tiny country?

purgatory on June 28, 2009 at 7:47 PM

what is wrong with this president?

rob verdi on June 28, 2009 at 7:48 PM

riging = rigging

Loxodonta on June 28, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Two questions, then. One: In their rush to drool all over themselves about “the rule of law,” do Obama and Hillary realize that it’s Zelaya who was flouting the rule of law here? I know The One’s a big believer in executive power but even he’d acknowledge that defying an order from the Supreme Court crosses the line (I think).

Obama doesn’t even feel bound by the rule of laws that he sponsored as a senator (e.g. the firing of IG’s without cause and without due notice to congress). He’s a ‘pragmatist’, remember? And it wouldn’t be pragmatic for one of his leftist buddies to get tossed for breaking his own country’s laws.

And two: Why is Team Barry siding with Zelaya instead of simply staying out of it? The White House proved with Iran that they’re capable of maintaining very tactful silences for excruciatingly long periods of time. Yet today we’ve got not only the secretary of state but the president himself rushing out statements. Is this some kind of half-assed attempt to make nice with Chavez now that relations have been restored by supporting one of his cronies? What am I missing here?

Well Obama has said that he’s not into meddling into other countries’ internal affairs, but he’s done so with Israel without batting an eye. Why? Because to do so fits with his agenda. His decision to intervene in the case of Honduras supports this notion that whether or not to ‘meddle’ has nothing to do with principles but again with his pragmatic interests. He wants to cosy up with the communist and wannabe communist regimes in Latin America. And why wouldn’t he? They are not so different from his envisioned remake of America, and maybe in 7 years he’ll want a referendum to do away with term limits, too!

ProfessorMiao on June 28, 2009 at 7:49 PM

The EU joined the US in condemning the coup as well. I know Chavez has said he will use military action to put Zelaya back in power. I just think Obama doesn’t want to be put in position to have to use military force against Chavez. Because he know he never would.

broker1 on June 28, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Obama will support a Leftist President who attempted to usurp his nation’s Constitution and after that nation’s Supreme Court said “no way” on his quest to stay in power forever?

Yet, half a world away…people who are being killed, have been for two weeks, as they protest not only a botched election but also protest against 30 years of mullahtocracy…and Obama says “nope, can’t interfere (nor offer support) ‘cuz that’s meddling?”

Well, at least he sent a note to the Jackson family this weekend…

coldwarrior on June 28, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Literally every other arm of the Honduran government — judiciary, legislature, military — was against him

Even his own party.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 7:49 PM

I know The One’s a big believer in executive power but even he’d acknowledge that defying an order from the Supreme Court crosses the line (I think).

You keep saying things like this. Why do you keep saying things like this?

Jim Treacher on June 28, 2009 at 7:50 PM

So, this is basically another question of “incompetence or malice”. Pick one.

Aristotle on June 28, 2009 at 7:51 PM

He is back in Community Organizing mode building his coalition of lefties.

fourdeucer on June 28, 2009 at 7:51 PM

Obama is not consistent in avoiding interference in the internal affairs of another country, and is not consistent in supporting the rule of law in another country, but is consistent in supporting or at least appeasing anti-American and anti-Israeli world leaders.

Loxodonta on June 28, 2009 at 7:47 PM

Very good. I like that interpretation almost as much as mine.

ProfessorMiao on June 28, 2009 at 7:51 PM

what is wrong with this president?

rob verdi on June 28, 2009 at 7:48 PM

It is a lot easier to list what is right with this president. Here:

Loxodonta on June 28, 2009 at 7:51 PM

Gee, wonder how Obama is going to handle a soon-to-be nuclear Burma?

coldwarrior on June 28, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Even his own party.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 7:49 PM

Yeah…nobody wants this guys except Chavez, Castro, and Obama. WTF!!

BryanS on June 28, 2009 at 7:53 PM

pardon my previous typo.

Anyway considering Obama’s pathetic reaction when Chavez became dictator for life.

rob verdi on June 28, 2009 at 7:53 PM

I’m thinking Mr. Obama didn’t think that any of This would make international headlines…as anything dealing with Iran would.

bridgetown on June 28, 2009 at 7:53 PM

Look he sided with the Mullahs against the dissidents in Iran and now he’s siding with Chavez, Castro and Zelaya against the democratic institutions in Honduras. By the way Chavez is threatening war:

Just heard parts of speech Chavez gave in spanish where he said that if the new Honduran government is “sworn in” there is “a defacto state of war” between Venezuela and Honduras requiring “military force by Venezuela against Honduras”

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Roberto Micheletti has been sworn in as the Honduran President after the National Congress ousted President Zelaya from power.about 1 hour ago from BNO Headquarters

Sworn-in Honduran President Micheletti says he came to the presidency through a “completely legal process” and not as a result of a coup.
about 1 hour ago from BNO Headquarters

Honduran President Micheletti says the constitution is in force and assures there will be presidential elections in November.
about 1 hour ago from BNO Headquarters

Alfredo Saavedra is appointed as the new Honduran President of the National Congress after Micheletti is sworn in as disputed president.
about 1 hour ago from BNO Headquarters

Someone is going to be left holding the short end of the stick on this one. Will Obama stand by while Venezuela uses force to install their lackey in Honduras? Thus siding with Chavez and crushing democracy in Honduras. Or will he stand with the democratic institutions in Honduras as they seek to reassert their democratic rights and risk being labelled just another in a long line of “typical yankee presidents”.

That is the stark decision he is going to have to make. Is Obama afraid of Chavez? Is he pro democracy or is he more enamoured of his policy of engagement with Chavez?

Right now his posture suggests he is going to stand with Chavez and crush the Hondurans who are reasserting their democratic perogative. What happens when the shooting starts?

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 7:53 PM

It is a lot easier to list what is right with this president. Here:

Loxodonta on June 28, 2009 at 7:51 PM

You left out that he’s way cool.

ProfessorMiao on June 28, 2009 at 7:53 PM

I understood The One’s logic for not wanting to meddle in Iran.

That would be that he belives in government power, not individual rights (people power).

I don’t understand his logic for wanting to meddle in Honduras.

He believes that a countries rulers are above their country’s constitution.

MB4 on June 28, 2009 at 7:53 PM

MB4 on June 28, 2009 at 7:53 PM

Right on.

bridgetown on June 28, 2009 at 7:55 PM

Loxodonta on June 28, 2009 at 7:47 PM

BINGO, we have a winner. The common thread, he stands by those who hate America.

exceller on June 28, 2009 at 7:55 PM

MB4 on June 28, 2009 at 7:53 PM

One has to look no further than Washington, D.C..

coldwarrior on June 28, 2009 at 7:56 PM

So, the consistent theme here is Obama backing the status-quo rulers that are buddies of Hugo.

Count to 10 on June 28, 2009 at 7:58 PM

In their rush to drool all over themselves about “the rule of law,” do Obama and Hillary realize that it’s Zelaya who was flouting the rule of law here?

Of course they do.

I know The One’s a big believer in executive power but even he’d acknowledge that defying an order from the Supreme Court crosses the line (I think)

lol.

MB4 on June 28, 2009 at 7:58 PM

Obama must really want that signed by Lenin book Chavez offered him.

coldwarrior on June 28, 2009 at 8:00 PM

Bama admires Chavez for his restructuring of Venezuela along the lines he hopes ot achieve here and thinks appropriate every where else in the world. If hew could have got away with it he would have stood next to Ayers in that iconic picture of the old grey leftie still standing on the US flag…but it would have been ever so inconvenient.

Bama and cadre are suicide bombers. Their goal is to frag this country as many ways as fast as possible, internally or externally. Now, Bama isn’t personally smart enough to get this done without a lot of guidance…Soros, for instance…

The “vote” on a climate change bill is a hoax. This is not government but law by thuggery and deception…the repercussions are that the bar is now lower for the next majority group to grind their axe, and so on. All that can happen if this continues is a culture where “I won” justifies anything.

Hitler Part Deux. This is not progress but regression to a jungle where all that matters is power and who has the most guns in the right places. Bama doesn’t care about it as he thinks he is putting together a dynasty. If he is wrong, somebody is going to go onto a train for the camping trip or a lifetime…or is it that this is the result if he is right?

I don’t know.

Harry Schell on June 28, 2009 at 8:00 PM

What am I missing here?

You don’t seem to be missing anything as far as I can tell. Good post, AP.

I can only guess that Obama is relying on the press and general American malaise about politics in that part of the world to cover up his support for Chavez’s crony who flaunted Honduran law by placing himself above their constitution.

Hmmm… Maybe Obama hopes to set a precedent for his own self preservation as POTUS? :)

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 8:00 PM

Wouldn’t it be great if we could find just one principle this guy could stick to and uphold. Other than Alinsky’s.

HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 8:01 PM

equality on June 28, 2009 at 7:36 PM

You my boy are the classic useful idiot

CWforFreedom on June 28, 2009 at 8:01 PM

Barry is beginning to look like a Chavez lackey.

Rode Werk on June 28, 2009 at 8:01 PM

The Honduran Congress should done it the democratic way Obama likes — let the vote go ahead, then have the ballots collected and ten minutes later announce Yes’s – 0.001%, No’s – 99.999% No.

Dusty on June 28, 2009 at 8:02 PM

It’s BHO’s longstanding pattern of dissing democracies & embracing thugs.

jgapinoy on June 28

It’s really no more complicated than that. His friends are tyrants, terrorists and thugs. His enemies are other western democracies.

JellyToast on June 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM

Reaction to the apparent coup was swift. U.S. President Barack Obama said he was “deeply concerned” and called on all political actors in Honduras to “respect democratic norms, the rule of law and the tenets of the Inter-American Democratic Charter. Any existing tensions and disputes must be resolved peacefully through dialogue free from any outside interference,” he said.

The Obama administration worked in recent days to prevent President Zelaya’s ouster, a senior U.S. official said. The State Department, in particular, communicated to Honduran officials on the ground that President Obama wouldn’t support any non-democratic transfer of power in the Central American country.

“We had some indication” that a move against Mr. Zelaya was a foot, said a U.S. official briefed on the diplomacy. “We made it clear it was something we didn’t support.”

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton joined Mr. Obama Sunday in criticizing the Honduran coup and calling for the restoration of the democratic process.

“We call on all parties in Honduras to respect the constitutional order and the rule of law, to reaffirm their democratic vocation, and to commit themselves to resolve political disputes peacefully and through dialogue,” Mrs. Clinton said in a statement.

Maybe the other democracys in the world can tell Obama the same thing regarding America. Why does Obama care about – “constitutional order and the rule of law” in other countries when he does not give a crap about it here?

izoneguy on June 28, 2009 at 8:04 PM

I guess the more important question is what will Michelle wear to Ahmadinejad’s re-election party?

ieplaya on June 28, 2009 at 8:05 PM

It’s simple, he is pissed that he won’t be able to change our Constitution after his 8 years is up to allow more terms.

FireBlogger on June 28, 2009 at 8:06 PM

I guess Team Barry figured that if they didn’t come out loudly against this, suspicions inside the country about the military being in cahoots with the U.S. would fester. Eh. They’ll fester anyway.

You can not possibly think that is the explanation. Look to the psychology of it. Barry has mucho sympatico with a fellow power grabber who also does not believe in constitutions or rule-of-law, inconvenient old fashion things that just get in the way.

MB4 on June 28, 2009 at 8:06 PM

Barry and Hill coming out to support Chavez, I mean Zelaya, didn’t surprise me at all. Zelaya tried to subvert Honduras’ constitution the same way Barry and his henchmen are attempting to subvert ours. I heard there is already a move underway to get rid of Presidential term limits.

JackofNoTrades on June 28, 2009 at 8:06 PM

ieplaya on June 28, 2009 at 8:05 PM

Sleeveless Burkha.

coldwarrior on June 28, 2009 at 8:06 PM

I was wondering when we would see this story. But everything I had to say has been said. Glad I’m not the only one who saw the immediate and glaring hypocrisy between the White House response to Iran and their response to Honduras.
I love though how the media is reporting this as a military coup yet I from the reports I’ve seen the military has not taken control of the government. Some military coup when they don’t even get to maintain total control.
I wonder if Obama is against it because he fears it may set precedent for something to happen here in America? hmmm…

theguardianii on June 28, 2009 at 8:07 PM

The Honduran Congress should done it the democratic way Obama likes — let the vote go ahead, then have the ballots collected and ten minutes later announce Yes’s – 0.001%, No’s – 99.999% No.

Dusty on June 28, 2009 at 8:02 PM

‘Yes’ might have won — leading to the destruction of their Republic (which is actually more important than pure democracy).

Count to 10 on June 28, 2009 at 8:07 PM

from my previous post:

In what can only be described as “accidental reporting” this short story in the NYTimes actually lays out the simple facts on what the ex president was trying to pull off ala Chavez.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/world/americas/29honduras.html?_r=1

The ugly truth in Central America when it comes to leftists like Chavez is the price of life is very cheap. He will use all his monies to destroy Honduras aided and abetted by the pedophile/rapist in Nicaragua. We should have allowed these rabid dogs to be shot years ago.

patrick neid on June 28, 2009 at 7:14 PM

Perhaps Obama and crew know that Chavez will now attempt to destroy Honduras so Obama would rather have Honduras just go over to Chavez peacefully. If that is so, Obama, Clinton et al will now try to restore the President despite knowing what his ultimate intentions are despite being ruled illegal by the Supreme Court. The rule of law only counts if it suits Obama’s purpose. He’s an attorney.

patrick neid on June 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM

Zelaya has been flown by Chavez from San Jose, Costa Rica to Managua, Nicaragua this afternoon for an emergency meeting of ALBA which is Chavez’s “alliance” of leftist countries. The article below was written yesterday on who and what ALBA is.

http://www.miamiherald.com/418/story/1117536.html

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM

watch for Sandinista troops to spearhead any military offensive from Nicaragua into Hondurans.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM

You can not possibly think that is the explanation. Look to the psychology of it. Barry has mucho sympatico with a fellow power grabber who also does not believe in constitutions or rule-of-law, inconvenient old fashion things that just get in the way.

MB4 on June 28, 2009 at 8:06 PM

…and the guy was a socialist stooge of Chavez. That might have something to do with it.

Count to 10 on June 28, 2009 at 8:09 PM

You left out that he’s way cool.

ProfessorMiao on June 28, 2009 at 7:53 PM

You are right. Obama does give me shivers.

Loxodonta on June 28, 2009 at 8:09 PM

It is a lot easier to list what is right with this president. Here:

Loxodonta on June 28, 2009 at 7:51 PM

Brilliant, Lox! Leaving the trolls wondering where the link is!

massrighty on June 28, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Loxodonta on June 28, 2009 at 7:47 PM

It’s sad to say but you’re probably right on the mark.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 8:10 PM

Perhaps Obama and crew know that Chavez will now attempt to destroy Honduras so Obama would rather have Honduras just go over to Chavez peacefully. If that is so, Obama, Clinton et al will now try to restore the President despite knowing what his ultimate intentions are despite being ruled illegal by the Supreme Court. The rule of law only counts if it suits Obama’s purpose. He’s an attorney.

patrick neid on June 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM

They won’t go “peacfully” all the political institutions in Honduras stand against Chavez and Zelaya. If Obama joins Chavez to try to force a capitulation they will be pushing Honduras into CIVIL WAR.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 8:11 PM

I wish Obama would observe the constitution and the rule of law in this country.

deewhybee on June 28, 2009 at 7:38 PM

One might as well expect rivers to run backwards.

Hinmahtooyahlatkek on June 28, 2009 at 8:11 PM

You understood nothing.

TheBigOldDog on June 28, 2009 at 8:11 PM

FireBlogger on June 28, 2009 at 8:06 PM

Don’t think for one minute that he and his minions aren’t contemplating a way around that. He won’t succeed, but try he will,

HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 8:11 PM

Abortion doctor.
Military recruiters.
Iran.
Honduras.

How he responds tells us as much as what he does.

Weight of Glory on June 28, 2009 at 8:11 PM

So not only is Obama on the wrong side, he FAILED to get the result he wanted.
Impressive foreign policy there Mr. President.
So what can you do right?

redshirt on June 28, 2009 at 8:12 PM

I can’t figure out whether this administration is intentionally doing all these things for some wacked-out reason, or if they all really are clinically retarded.

KSgop on June 28, 2009 at 7:36 PM

Really?..Reeally? Of course its intentional. He and his cronies are Neocoms. Its just the way they are.

Itchee Dryback on June 28, 2009 at 8:13 PM

“We had some indication” that a move against Mr. Zelaya was a foot

Are you sure it wasn’t a hand?

corona on June 28, 2009 at 8:14 PM

When Joe Biden said Obama would be tested, maybe it would have been a good idea to get these dictators to take a number and do it in an orderly fashion?

coldwarrior on June 28, 2009 at 8:15 PM

Really?..Reeally? Of course its intentional. He and his cronies are Neocoms. Its just the way they are.

Itchee Dryback on June 28, 2009 at 8:13 PM

I’m not sure it is possible to tell the difference between that and the useful idiots.

Count to 10 on June 28, 2009 at 8:15 PM

So here’s some things we’ve learned.

Obama wanted the students in Iran to fail.

Obama licked custard while Neda died in the street.

Obama has no respect for the Honduran Constitution.

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 8:16 PM

When Joe Biden said Obama would be tested, maybe it would have been a good idea to get these dictators to take a number and do it in an orderly fashion?

coldwarrior on June 28, 2009 at 8:15 PM

Perhaps the problem is that he thought that they would wait in line until called.

Count to 10 on June 28, 2009 at 8:16 PM

So not only is Obama on the wrong side, he FAILED to get the result he wanted.
Impressive foreign policy there Mr. President.
So what can you do right?

redshirt on June 28, 2009 at 8:12 PM

Well put, and you owe me a clean computer screen.

JackofNoTrades on June 28, 2009 at 8:17 PM

I know The One’s a big believer in executive power but even he’d acknowledge that defying an order from the Supreme Court crosses the line (I think).

You keep saying things like this. Why do you keep saying things like this?

Jim Treacher on June 28, 2009 at 7:50 PM

I’m know Allahpundit was being dryly sardonic (I think).

Loxodonta on June 28, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Count to 10 on June 28, 2009 at 8:16 PM

Biden obviously forgot that dictators are all about being first…

coldwarrior on June 28, 2009 at 8:18 PM

This is what Obama and Hillary think are “constitutional order”??
1) you want to hold an illegal referendum to change the term limits so YOU can stay in power
2) you give a middle finger to your Supreme Court who told you it was illegal and not to do it
3)you give a middle finger to your Congress who told you it was illegal and not to do it
4)you fire a General for not following your orders to run a illegal referendum
5)your a leftist
6)your a Chavez supporter

I am so ashamed of these 2 and so fearful for the US. We have got to win in 2012. Hillary can not be thought of as an okay alternative. Not after she says something like this- that a leader of a democracy doesn’t have to follow the rule of law and shame on the military for removing him (that is their job- to protect and defend against foreign or domestic enemies to THEIR CONSTITUTION and to their COUNTRY, even if it is their leader who has grand ideas of himself)

journeyintothewhirlwind on June 28, 2009 at 8:19 PM

Cairo effect. Definitely the Cairo effect.

JohnInCA on June 28, 2009 at 8:19 PM

Biden obviously forgot that dictators are all about being first…

coldwarrior on June 28, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Biden: Epic Fail at Vice Authoritaaa Figure…

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 8:19 PM

Cairo Caracas effect. Definitely the Cairo Caracas effect.

JohnInCA on June 28, 2009 at 8:19 PM

Didn’t you get the memo of how Che Guevara gave us air, knowledge, and clean water?

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 8:20 PM

If the referendum isn’t valid anyway, why the need to arrest him?

Speedwagon82 on June 28, 2009 at 7:38 PM

For the same reason Julius Caesar was slain in the floor of the Roman Senate.

TheBigOldDog on June 28, 2009 at 8:20 PM

wtf?

ctmom on June 28, 2009 at 8:21 PM

I think in order to hash this out properly all of Obama’s dictator buddies should summit July 4 on the Big Island. Of course for security reasons all current citizens should be moved to the mainland.

HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 8:22 PM

If the referendum isn’t valid anyway, why the need to arrest him?

Speedwagon82 on June 28, 2009 at 7:38 PM

I don’t know… If Obama has any sort of referendum past in 2016, I sure hope someone does something…

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 8:22 PM

Well put, and you owe me a clean computer screen.

JackofNoTrades on June 28, 2009 at 8:17 PM

Just tell me where to ship it.

redshirt on June 28, 2009 at 8:22 PM

what is wrong with this president?

rob verdi on June 28, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Pretty much everything from Aleph to Tav.

Alpha to Zulu for you military types.

MB4 on June 28, 2009 at 8:23 PM

I think in order to hash this out properly all of Obama’s dictator buddies should summit July 4 on the Big Island. Of course for security reasons all current citizens should be moved to the mainland.

HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 8:22 PM

I was hoping they would all gather in Gaza for the annual fecal matter throwing contest… I was also hoping Hillary would give BiBi one of her famous “reset” buttons…

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 8:24 PM

For the same reason Julius Caesar was slain in the floor of the Roman Senate.

TheBigOldDog on June 28, 2009 at 8:20 PM

So if Obama decides to have a referendum for legalized abortion at all stages, that means we can arrest him? Cool

Speedwagon82 on June 28, 2009 at 8:24 PM

Will Zelaya be at the BBQ now?

TheBigOldDog on June 28, 2009 at 8:25 PM

So if Obama decides to have a referendum for legalized abortion at all stages, that means we can arrest him? Cool

Speedwagon82 on June 28, 2009 at 8:24 PM

What if he has a referendum for extending his term?

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 8:25 PM

Abortion doctor.
Military recruiters.
Iran.
Honduras.

How he responds tells us as much as what he does.

Weight of Glory on June 28, 2009 at 8:11 PM

Well put

CWforFreedom on June 28, 2009 at 8:25 PM

“I know The One’s a big believer in executive power but even he’d acknowledge that defying an order from the Supreme Court crosses the line (I think).”

I have a feeling that we will eventually come to those cross roads……..

Seven Percent Solution on June 28, 2009 at 8:25 PM

Speedwagon82 on June 28, 2009 at 8:24 PM

I think you missed the point by about 8 nautical miles.

TheBigOldDog on June 28, 2009 at 8:25 PM

If Obama has any sort of referendum past in 2016, I sure hope someone does something…

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 8:22 PM

OK. One second after east coast polls close, Chris Matthews will announce that Obama’s 90% third term victory is divine.

Happy now?

Loxodonta on June 28, 2009 at 8:26 PM

Will Zelaya be at the BBQ now?

TheBigOldDog on June 28, 2009 at 8:25 PM

What would the Sausage Fest of the Authoritaaas be like otherwise?

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 8:26 PM

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