Video: The obligatory “dancing Filipino inmates salute Jacko” clip

posted at 1:47 pm on June 28, 2009 by Allahpundit

I wanted to give you a post on Honduras but so profound is my ignorance of that country that I honestly couldn’t find it on a map. Even the usual blogger pose of pretending to know something about which you really know nothing seems inappropriate under those circumstances. All that seems relevant for now is that the president who’s been deposed is a Chavez crony and that Hugo himself is threatening to bring down the new government, replete with military action if necessary. Looks like my prediction of headaches for The One from his new pal might come true sooner than expected.

As for the clip, it’s a fitting tribute for two reasons. One: Their rendition of “Thriller” was almost as big a phenomenon as Michael’s. And two: This may be the only salute to Jacko you’ll see this week featuring actual child molesters. Not sure why they chose ballads, though. Granted, the mood is appropriate to the occasion, but if you’re going to go to the trouble of putting on a show, why not pick something uptempo that lets you show your moves? Besides, most of this is Jackson Five material. How can you have an appropriately maudlin introspective retrospective without “Man in the Mirror”?


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Obama ‘Deeply Concerned’ by Arrest of Honduran President
By VOA News
28 June 2009

petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM

LOL! Well we now know he skipped over “troubled” but its not as bad as “gravely concerned”. What a schmuck.

I wonder if the weasel tries to tell us this is something which should take any of his time I mean he’s forever telling us “he already has too much on his plate”.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Fortunately for South American Leftists, Obama is on a 23 hour news cycle…

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Any predictions about the responses from Graham and Cheney?

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 4:21 PM

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 4:17 PM

Not to worry, I’m sure BO doesn’t want to run Honduras any more than he wants to run General Motors.

petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM

Fortunately for South American Leftists, Obama is on a 23 hour news cycle…

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 4:18 PM

LOL!

Not to worry, I’m sure BO doesn’t want to run Honduras any more than he wants to run General Motors.

petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM

I would love to see him try something with Honduras now. Seriously. It would unmask him for real.

What worries me a little is Chavez. Is he all bark and no bite or could his weakness at home benefit from a nice foreign crisis?

I know Chavez is in an increasingly weak position domestically because the Venezuelan economy has imploded and the price of oil is not going to allow him the ability to use those revenues as a band aid (again). To further complicate his situation he was just rebuffed by Lula da Silva (Brazil), his leftist buddy, for some loans.

So what will Chavez do? The Venezuela military has supposedly already been put on alert.

Anecdotally I know people have been critical of him because he’s spending too much of Venezuela’s wealth outside of ve

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 4:30 PM

that should read “outside of Venezuela” at the end.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 4:31 PM

Thanks for the updates, Elduende.

So what will Chavez do? The Venezuela military has supposedly already been put on alert.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 4:30 PM

Do you happen to know anything about the relative strength of their armed forces?

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 4:38 PM

I see reality show!

This video is strange on so many levels…something tells me Jacko would love it.

Who is Prison Choreographer anyway?

PattyJ on June 28, 2009 at 4:40 PM

WSJ Update: Obama Worked To Prevent Ouster of Honduras President

By Jay Solomon, Of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

The Obama administration worked in recent days to prevent President Manuel Zelaya’s ouster, said a senior U.S. official. The State Department, in particular, communicated to Honduran officials on the ground that President Barack Obama wouldn’t support any nondemocratic transfer of power in the Central American country.

“We had some indication that a move against Mr. Zelaya was afoot,” said a U.S. official briefed on the diplomacy. “We made it clear it was something we didn’t support.”

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton joined Obama Sunday in criticizing the Honduran coup and calling for the restoration of the democratic process.

“We call on all parties in Honduras to respect the constitutional order and the rule of law, to reaffirm their democratic vocation, and to commit themselves to resolve political disputes peacefully and through dialogue,” Clinton said in a statement.

http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=200906281405dowjonesdjonline000276&title=wsj-update-obama-worked-to-prevent-ouster-of-honduras-president

Holy crap!!!!!! Can anyone believe he was working to defend Zelaya’s power grab??

Well that is just freaking rich. Typical Obama weasel. Epic fail Barry. So the democratic institutions in Honduras just spit in Obama’s face and reasserted their democracy. Go Honduras!

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 4:43 PM

There is now way they choreographed this in two days. This had to be a living tribute….

This is so damn sad…. Is there another option other than… human[ity]?

katy on June 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM

I recently viewed a complete news story on their dance routines. This takes place in a Philipine maximum security prison and the warden is a great fan of MJ. There was also trouble in the prison so to “give the inmates sometihning positive to do”, he required all inmates to participate in dance training that lasted 4 hours each day. They perform for their families and guiests once each month. According to the story, trouble in the prison has decreased substancially since this program started; I believe about 4 years ago.

Zaire67 on June 28, 2009 at 4:44 PM

“We call on all parties in Honduras to respect the constitutional order and the rule of law, to reaffirm their democratic vocation, and to commit themselves to resolve political disputes peacefully and through dialogue,” Clinton said in a statement.

That’s precisely what they did, Hillary/Obama.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 4:46 PM

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 4:38 PM

A little. Off the top of my head. Both forces are geared towards internal security. Both forces are small. The Hondurans have combat experience from Iraq. The Venezuelans have no combat expereince and miniscule power projection although they have an airborne component. If the Hondurans were sitting on one of Venezuelas borders I’d be more concerned.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Just on more foreign policy fiasco waiting to happen. As predicted every despot in the world has be given a green light to bang their chest. The upside is that the more that happens the more the inept administration we be able to continue the distruction of America.

Of course I could be wrong.

HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 5:04 PM

Just one more foreign policy fiasco waiting to happen. As predicted every despot in the world has been given a green light to bang their chest. The upside is that the more that happens outside or borders the more the inept administration will be able to continue the distruction of America.

Of course I could be wrong.

HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 5:05 PM

Sorry for the double post..Forgot to preview.

HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 5:06 PM

WSJ Update: Obama Worked To Prevent Ouster of Honduras President

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 4:43 PM

All eyes on Obama! Let him reveal himself through Honduras.

petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Honduras in a nutshell.

The Honduran military maintains an active force of 8,300 with 60,000 registered as reserves. In 2002 there were 5,500 in the army, 1,800 in the air force, and 1,000 in the navy, including 400 marines. Paramilitary public security forces numbered 6,000 personnel. The United States maintains a small military presence in Honduras. The defense budget in 1999 was $35 million, or 0.6% of GDP.

Venezuela in a nutshell.

Total armed strength in 2002 was 82,300, including 23,000 members of the Fuerzas Armados de Cooperacion , an internal security force. The army had 34,000 regulars, including six infantry divisions and 12 specialized brigades. Equipment included 81 main battle tanks and close to 200 light tanks. The navy had 18,300 members, including 7,800 marines, 1,000 Coast Guard members, and 500 Naval Aviators; naval strength included two submarines and six frigates. The air force had 7,000 personnel, 125 combat aircraft, and 31 armed helicopters. Defense expenditures in 1999 were $934 million, or 0.9% of the GDP.

Included in the above is the Venezuelan 42nd Infantry Paratrooper Brigade (42a Brigada Paracaidista de Infanteria)…Chavez’s old unit.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:18 PM

Reuters: Senior U.S. official says the Obama administration sees Zelaya as the only constitutional president of Honduras after coup.
16 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Reuters: Senior U.S. official says the Obama administration sees Zelaya as the only constitutional president of Honduras after coup.
16 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters

http://twitter.com/BreakingNews

I don’t understand how Obama falls into these traps. So now what pressure is he going to exert on behalf of Chavez and Zelaya? Sanctions against Honduras? Pathetic!

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:24 PM

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:18 PM
If Bush were still president I don’t think Chavez would risk it, but with Obama…. The whole world knows that he’s not about to intercede on behalf of freedom and liberty.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Reuters: Senior U.S. official says the Obama administration sees Zelaya as the only constitutional president of Honduras after coup.
16 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters

So this means he’s defying the SCOH? The Congress? Hmmm… Doesn’t sounds crystal clear constitutional to me… It also sounds a bit meddlesome.

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Chavez has sent a Venezuelan Air Force transport to pick Zelaya up in Costa Rica and fly him to Managua, Nicaragua.

Tegucigalpa, Honduras

Por su parte, el viceministro de seguridad de Costa Rica, José Torres, confirmó que el gobierno de Venezuela envío un avión a suelo costarricense a recoger al presidente hondureño, Manuel Zelaya, para llevárselo a Nicaragua esta misma tarde.

“El gobierno venezolano envío un avión a suelo costarricense a llevarse al president Zelaya a una reunión extraordinaria del ALBA en Managua”, expresó Torres.

El jerarca de Seguridad agregó la presencia de Zelaya en el hotel Double Tree Cariari.

http://www.laprensahn.com/País/Ediciones/2009/06/28/Noticias/Zelaya-parte-a-Nicaragua-en-avion-de-Venezuela

Hah! Zelaya will be staying at the Doubletree Cariari in San Jose, Costa Rica
Address: San Antonio de Belen, Ciudad Cariar, San Jose, Costa Rica 40701
Tel: 506-2-239-0022 Fax: 506-2-239-2803

maaybe that’s the best Chavez could afford?

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:34 PM

Reuters: Senior U.S. official says the Obama administration sees Zelaya as the only constitutional president of Honduras after coup.

Looks like Obama is revealing his hand. I think if American’s are made aware of the facts, most will support the actions of the legitimate Honduran government, not the crooked Chavez/Obama lackey.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 5:34 PM

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 5:30 PM

It’s worse than that he’s actively supporting Chavez and Zelaya.

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 5:33 PM

It’s really unbelievable. What happened to the apology tour? He gave that apology about US interference in Latin America when he was down there and was humiliated by Chavez and now he’s taking this tin pot’s side.

Not to mention the mind numbing hypocrisy when you compare it to his Iranian policy of “non interference” these past couple of weeks.

Un freaking believable!

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Ecuadorean President says it will only participate in military action against Honduras if its diplomats or one of its allies are threatened.
17 minutes ago from BNO Headquarters

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Zelaya has been flown by Chavez to Managua Nicaragua this afternoon for an emergency meeting of ALBA which is Chavez’s “alliance” of Leftist countries. The article below was written yesterday on who and what is ALBA.

http://www.miamiherald.com/418/story/1117536.html

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM

It’s worse than that he’s actively supporting Chavez and Zelaya.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Which makes Obama look very bad and leads me to assume that he’s counting on our “press” to cover his backside.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 5:50 PM

FOLLOWING SAME PATH

It looks like all these presidents are following the same script.

Act 1: Portray yourself as an anti-system outsider — sometimes by staging a military coup attempt, like Chávez, or by leading violent riots, like Bolivia’s Evo Morales — and become an instant media celebrity.

Act 2: Once elected, you change the Constitution and introduce a clause that allows you to stay in power beyond your current term.

Act 3: With the new Constitution in place, you call early elections.

Act 4: Once reelected, you claim that Washington, the Church and the oligarchy are trying to kill you and use that pretext to ban opposition leaders and close down critical media, paving the way for ruling with a token opposition and assuming near absolute powers.

http://www.miamiherald.com/418/story/1117536.html

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:51 PM

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 5:50 PM

They are already doing that. This morning the AP article talked about a coup but does not state that Zelaya was acting illegally by blatantly flaunting the Honduran Constitution, the will of the Supreme Court, the Congress, his own party, and the military.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:55 PM

“I was awakened by shots, and the yells of my guards, who resisted for about 20 minutes,” Mr. Zelaya told a news conference at the San Jose airport in Costa Rica. “I came out in my pajamas, I’m still in my pajamas….when they came in, they pointed their guns at me and told me they would shoot if I didn’t put down my cell phone.” – Zelaya

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124619401378065339.html?mod=rss_com_mostcommentart

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:59 PM

They are already doing that. This morning the AP article talked about a coup but does not state that Zelaya was acting illegally by blatantly flaunting the Honduran Constitution, the will of the Supreme Court, the Congress, his own party, and the military.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:55 PM

It’s disappointing that Fox News isn’t giving it much attention either. Julie Banderas (sp?) summarized it about an hour ago and mangled the story.

I think part of the problem is that American’s are used to turmoil in the region and are not in the habit of paying it any mind, but it seems to me that Honduras, while imperfect, is a special case and is, perhaps, the closest thing we have to a regional ally. (I’m only hedging because I’m not very knowledgeable on the region myself.)

It’s certainly revealing, and thus newsworthy, that Obama is siding with Chaves and ALBA against the Honduran government’s attempts to preserve it’s constitutional government. If I were an editor at Fox News, I’d certainly be following up on that angle.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 6:06 PM

getting really familiar with the term “maudlin”…

I_C on June 28, 2009 at 6:14 PM

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 6:06 PM

Look at the end of the day all of those countries down there have a love hate relationship with us. Honduras and EL Salvador owe us big for our support when they were both fighting communist insurgencies. The Hondurans have been fighting alongside our troops in Iraq. So we have a moral duty to them.

Obama is setting the stage for civil war if he insists on giving Chavez and Zelaya a win now.

He either supports the ouster and gets labelled a typical yankee. Or he tries to force the Hondurans to accept Zelaya and gives Chavez a win (and a loss for democracy). If he had any huevos he would support the democratic forces. He’s now in essence backing the authoritarian side. I hear that in about an hour there will be a clarification by the US.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 6:15 PM

It’s really unbelievable. What happened to the apology tour? He gave that apology about US interference in Latin America when he was down there and was humiliated by Chavez and now he’s taking this tin pot’s side.

Not to mention the mind numbing hypocrisy when you compare it to his Iranian policy of “non interference” these past couple of weeks.

Un freaking believable!

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:40 PM

My personal theory.

Obama really does want the Iranian students to fail. This might go counter the stereotypical Haight-Ashbury Leftist image, but it doesn’t really go against core leftists beliefs.

1) Leftists have done a decent job of harnessing the populace spirit – and why not? Conservatism is far from appealing to the mobs that may change their minds when the going gets tough. Look at Zelaya’s own statement:

“This was a plot by a very voracious elite, an elite which wants only to keep this country isolated, in an extreme level of poverty”

2) However, leftists (and I’m not talking about casual posters at Huff-n-Puff) do not want to support the Iranian students – even if their aspirations were left of center. Why? The left has been telling us over and over about how America is the Great Satan and how we need to embrace the third world life style. They paint Gorbochev as a hero. Che was a man of the people. The West could learn a lot from the Religion of Peace. Yada, yada, yada. How many leftists got a tingle running up their let when Chavez gave Obama Open Veins? And they are correct in anticipating that he would most likely read this. To have to admit that the students in Iran need help (moral or something else), admits that the leftist model is flawed. It’s like waving the white flag of surrender – even if the casualties themselves may favor a more mild version of leftism.

3) All of a sudden, Obama & Co have found their “Democracy rah, rah, rah” Speeches when one of their brethren has fallen. The only mention of “law and order” seems to come from left-leaning international agreements. There are conspiracy theories galore. America is once again the evil Yankee Empire even though Obama himself has thrown tact out the window. Look who’s meddling now.

All of this for the purpose of propping up the epically failing image of leftism.

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 6:24 PM

Honduras and EL Salvador owe us big for our support when they were both fighting communist insurgencies. The Hondurans have been fighting alongside our troops in Iraq. So we have a moral duty to them.

I’ve had a sort of connection with Honduras for many years for that reason, (and their great cigars, which I can buy without any ethical qualms). But it remains to be seen if even Fox News will give the issue the attention it deserves. The article on their web site isn’t bad, but I’ve been listening and they aren’t giving it adequate TV coverage yet, IMO. If Fox News and other actual news outlets don’t cover it, the Obama media will be able to take the lead unfettered.

I guess it’s still early yet, but it will be interesting to see if/how this gets covered in the coming days.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 6:26 PM

Sorry for breaking into the Honduran thread, but does the prison video remind anyone else of the opening gala for the Chinese Olympics?

jix on June 28, 2009 at 6:27 PM

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 6:26 PM

I have faith in Charles Krauthammer. ;)

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 6:28 PM

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 6:24 PM

absolutely right. The man is a menace. Unfortunately, his support of Chavez is leading towards either a Honduran civil war or a regional war. Maybe a Venezuelan supported Nicaraguan invasion of Honduras to reinstall Zelaya.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 6:33 PM

It’s really unbelievable. What happened to the apology tour? He gave that apology about US interference in Latin America when he was down there and was humiliated by Chavez and now he’s taking this tin pot’s side.

Not to mention the mind numbing hypocrisy when you compare it to his Iranian policy of “non interference” these past couple of weeks.

Un freaking believable!

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Dittos. The man is more radical than we dared imagine.

Zelaya has been flown by Chavez to Managua Nicaragua this afternoon for an emergency meeting of ALBA which is Chavez’s “alliance” of Leftist countries.
elduende on June 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM

And at this rate, after ALBA, Hugo and Zelaya will be roasting their wienies with Obama in the Rose Garden.

petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 6:42 PM

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 6:26 PM

The corrupt part of the media is waiting to see which way Obama wants them to go on this Honduran crisis. The others have little intellectual curiosity or continue to be distracted by other stories or they just don’t want to be bothered with the details.

I think the blogosphere needs to light this subject up tmmw. and so do Rush, Mark, Sean, all of the radio talkers need to get on this because its huge for an ally and its politically huge for us.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 6:42 PM

And at this rate, after ALBA, Hugo and Zelaya will be roasting their wienies with Obama in the Rose Garden.

petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Hey, as long as they use his fire, I say go for it… ;)

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 6:43 PM

Unfortunately, his support of Chavez is leading towards either a Honduran civil war or a regional war.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 6:33 PM

Obama may see a regional war more helpful to his agenda than a local one.

petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 6:46 PM

And at this rate, after ALBA, Hugo and Zelaya will be roasting their wienies with Obama in the Rose Garden.

petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 6:42 PM

Have no doubt that this is Obama’s thinking, at least with regards to Chavez.

The interesting thing of course is that Chavez like the Iranians needs us to be the “enemy” more than they need good relations with us.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 6:47 PM

Just heard parts of speech Chavez gave in spanish where he said that if the new Honduran government is “sworn in” there is “a defacto state of war” between Venezuela and Honduras requiring “military force by Venezuela against Honduras”

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Obama may see a regional war more helpful to his agenda than a local one.

petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 6:46 PM

Man, I don’t see how Obama can benefit from a crisis that then leads to war, where Venezuela is seen as picking on a smaller country, for whatever reason, and then lets them get away with it. Very bad for us, and Honduras, but also very bad for his agenda and his polling…

Then again, I’m looking at this from an American perspective and not from Obama’s (whatever that is).

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 6:59 PM

United Nations chief Ban Ki-moon wants deposed President Manuel Zelaya of Honduras to be reinstated and human rights to be fully respected

The new president of Honduras needs to get out there and make statement, pronto.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 7:06 PM

In what can only be described as “accidental reporting” this short story in the NYTimes actually lays out the simple facts on what the ex president was trying to pull off ala Chavez.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/world/americas/29honduras.html?_r=1

The ugly truth in Central America when it comes to leftists like Chavez is the price of life is very cheap. He will use all his monies to destroy Honduras aided and abetted by the pedophile/rapist in Nicaragua. We should have allowed these rabid dogs to be shot years ago.

patrick neid on June 28, 2009 at 7:14 PM

…Maybe a press conference, assuming it would be broadcast globally so that the world can draw their own conclusions without being filtered through regional press.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 7:16 PM

The interesting thing of course is that Chavez like the Iranians needs us to be the “enemy” more than they need good relations with us.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 6:47 PM

That’s the fly in Obama’s ointment, isn’t it. That’s the part that’s going to screw up his plans.

petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 7:20 PM

In case anyone wanted a recap on the international response…

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8123434.stm

Upstater85 on June 28, 2009 at 7:20 PM

Mind you Obama just sent Chavez an ambassador to kiss his a$$.

Just heard parts of speech Chavez gave in spanish where he said that if the new Honduran government is “sworn in” there is “a defacto state of war” between Venezuela and Honduras requiring “military force by Venezuela against Honduras”

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 6:50 PM

Roberto Micheletti has been sworn in as the Honduran President after the National Congress ousted President Zelaya from power.about 1 hour ago from BNO Headquarters

Sworn-in Honduran President Micheletti says he came to the presidency through a “completely legal process” and not as a result of a coup.
about 1 hour ago from BNO Headquarters

Honduran President Micheletti says the constitution is in force and assures there will be presidential elections in November.
about 1 hour ago from BNO Headquarters

Alfredo Saavedra is appointed as the new Honduran President of the National Congress after Micheletti is sworn in as disputed president.
about 1 hour ago from BNO Headquarters

LOL! Obama is a cretin. How he ends up in yet ANOTHER major crisis would be hilarious of it weren’t so pathetic and dangerous.

Its not anything he says or does, although those are bad enough, its his very presence which causes instability in the international system, which he then compounds with his arrogance, ineptness, and naivete.

We are now beginnging to see the death sprial of weak foreign policy we have been placed in by Obama, where we careen from one crisis to another in an ever increasing cascade, that due to his ineptitude, will remain poorly managed and unresolved.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 7:20 PM

If the new president makes a public statement or holds a press conference, I hope he challenges Chavez/Obama’s notion that their efforts to preserve the constitutional government of Honduras against a man who placed himself above it is somehow a coup. He won’t be able to sway Chavez/Obama’s opinions so if he feels he needs to sway American opinion he should talk to the American people and challenge Obama/Chavez.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Isn’t this video proof of cruel and unusual punishment?

mizflame98 on June 28, 2009 at 7:30 PM

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 7:20 PM

I guess he’s already made a statement, it’s just not on Fox News TV. Ah, well, it’s Sunday, maybe it will get more thorough coverage tomorrow.

Obama, Ban Ki-moon, Hillary and anybody else that’s made ignorant comments regarding this “coup” should have their faces rubbed in their own embarrassment when people learn the truth.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 7:31 PM

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 7:24 PM

Lets hope. his swearing in was televised and shown in snippets on Spanish language TV (univision and telemundo) earlier and they laid out why it was done.

That’s the fly in Obama’s ointment, isn’t it. That’s the part that’s going to screw up his plans.

petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 7:20 PM

I don’t see how Obama can allow Chavez free reign in Latin America especially if he goes to war with Honduras.

I’m starting to think they should have Zelaya when they had the chance this morning. No more Zelaya no more problem. These are cults of personality cutting off the head kills the snake.

The firestorm would have been the same but it would have denied the leftists an important piece on the chessboard.

Now all the leftists like Obama and Chavez have a rallying point and a goal which is to put Zelaya back in power.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 7:34 PM

We are now beginnging to see the death sprial of weak foreign policy we have been placed in by Obama, where we careen from one crisis to another in an ever increasing cascade, that due to his ineptitude, will remain poorly managed and unresolved.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 7:20 PM

Aptly put. Without the stabilizing influence of a strong US, the worlds tyrants will take advantage. First a few, taking small actions here and there, then as more crises develop, along with the perception that a weak president is overwhelmed and unable to cope, the problems will only continue to cascade. I’m not a big Bush fan, but he did bring a degree of stability to the world for several years, so all of the tyrants that have had their ambition pent up for all that time will likely come out of the woodwork, exacerbating the problem further.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 7:40 PM

Don’t worry, Barry. Go chill out with some cheeseburgers, ice cream, and a pack of Kools, and ev’rythang’s gonna be awright.

sawbuck on June 28, 2009 at 7:46 PM

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 7:20 PM

So, basically, the guy got impeached by the rest of the government, and the news and all diplomats being quoted are calling it a coup.
I have to say I give the benefit of the doubt to anyone who irritates Chavez.

Count to 10 on June 28, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Aptly put. Without the stabilizing influence of a strong US, the worlds tyrants will take advantage. First a few, taking small actions here and there, then as more crises develop, along with the perception that a weak president is overwhelmed and unable to cope, the problems will only continue to cascade. I’m not a big Bush fan, but he did bring a degree of stability to the world for several years, so all of the tyrants that have had their ambition pent up for all that time will likely come out of the woodwork, exacerbating the problem further.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 7:40 PM

I believe most of us were talking about that very thing… about a year ago.
Death Spiral, or just driving off a cliff?

Count to 10 on June 28, 2009 at 7:50 PM

There’s a dedicated Honduras thread now. I’m heading over there.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 7:52 PM

I’m starting to think they should have Zelaya when they had the chance this morning. No more Zelaya no more problem. These are cults of personality cutting off the head kills the snake.

The firestorm would have been the same but it would have denied the leftists an important piece on the chessboard.

Now all the leftists like Obama and Chavez have a rallying point and a goal which is to put Zelaya back in power.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 7:34 PM

To have killed him would have been to appear illegitimate, if they want to be seen as legally removing him from power.

Count to 10 on June 28, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Death Spiral, or just driving off a cliff?

Count to 10 on June 28, 2009 at 7:50 PM

Depends upon the severity. In Obama’s case I think the cliff analogy might be better, indicating the straightest possible course downward; freefall.

FloatingRock on June 28, 2009 at 7:53 PM

This may be the only salute to Jacko you’ll see this week featuring actual child molesters.

No doubt.
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itsnotaboutme on June 28, 2009 at 7:56 PM

There is now way they choreographed this in two days. This had to be a living tribute….

This is so damn sad…. Is there another option other than… human[ity]?

katy on June 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM

I recently viewed a complete news story on their dance routines. This takes place in a Philipine maximum security prison and the warden is a great fan of MJ. There was also trouble in the prison so to “give the inmates sometihning positive to do”, he required all inmates to participate in dance training that lasted 4 hours each day. They perform for their families and guiests once each month. According to the story, trouble in the prison has decreased substancially since this program started; I believe about 4 years ago.

Zaire67 on June 28, 2009 at 4:44 PM

I’d tend to believe that as most dancers are a bit light in the loafers so about the only arguments would be on outfits and whether the color of their cell clashes with the bars.

Jeff from WI on June 28, 2009 at 8:01 PM

To have killed him would have been to appear illegitimate, if they want to be seen as legally removing him from power.

Count to 10 on June 28, 2009 at 7:52 PM

The problem, of course, is that thanks to the media and the leftist governments around the planet they already look illegitimate. And now these outside forces have a living rally point and goal to reach. Put the very much alive Zelaya back in power.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 8:15 PM

So, basically, the guy got impeached by the rest of the government, and the news and all diplomats being quoted are calling it a coup.
I have to say I give the benefit of the doubt to anyone who irritates Chavez.

Count to 10 on June 28, 2009 at 7:48 PM

Kinda. He was removed by force but they had legal justification for it.

elduende on June 28, 2009 at 8:17 PM

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