Surprise: Axelrod refuses to rule out tax hike to pay for ObamaCare
posted at 2:49 pm on June 28, 2009 by Allahpundit
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I don’t blame him. The “pile of sh*t” that passed the House on Friday, which even Obama pal Warren Buffett describes as a “huge tax,” already shattered The One’s pledge not to raise taxes on people who make less than $250,000. Now that they’re in for a penny, they might as well be in for a pound:
I pressed Axelrod on whether Obama will draw a line in the sand and veto any bill that funds health care reform with tax hikes for people making under $250,000 a year — a pledge Barack Obama made during the 2008 presidential campaign.
“One of the problems we’ve had in this town is that people draw lines in the sand and they stop talking to each other. And you don’t get anything done. That’s not the way the president approaches us. He is very cognizant of protecting people — middle class people, hard-working people who are trying to get along in a very difficult economy. And he will continue to represent them in these talks,” Axelrod said.
“But they’re also dealing with punishing health care costs, and that’s something that we have to deal with.”
This wouldn’t be the only health-care “line in the sand” drawn during the campaign that’s now being quietly washed away by economic reality. As for foreign policy, Ax helpfully informed Stephanopoulos that it’s still full speed ahead on negotiations with Iran. You can watch that clip here but I recommend his exchange on the same topic with David Gregory instead, as Gregory presses him on what consequences Iran should suffer for its brutality. Ax has no answers, of course. Note also his insistence (in both interviews) that Ahmadinejad has no say in setting foreign policy, which (a) may be technically true but is meaningless in practice, given that Khamenei obviously supports Ahmadinejad’s vision enough to rig an election for him and (b) may not even be technically true anymore given the astounding power the Revolutionary Guard now has in Iran. If you missed Gary Sick’s short but essential piece in Headlines last night on who really holds the cards there, read it now. The election was more of a coup than you thought.
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Fletch54 on June 28, 2009 at 5:08 PM
From CRS Report for Congress (2008):
As to removal by recall, the United States Constitution does not provide for nor
authorize the recall of United States officers such as Senators, Representatives, or the
President or Vice President, and thus no Member of Congress has ever been recalled
in the history of the United States.
petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 5:09 PM
Well, I am not a secessionist, but I can really see that as being an option we may be forced to take before long. The problem is we will have to be ready to fight. Obama won’t let that lie, he can’t, it would start a domino effect that would leave only the NE and California in the union.
Personally, my allegiance is to my sovereign, Texas. If Texas leaves, I will too, if Texas fights, so will I.
conservnut on June 28, 2009 at 5:10 PM
Israel? US gov’t claims to this land are spurious enough. And why did Spain force all those nice people south of us to be christians and speak Spanish. Everybody should just go back to where they started. How’s that, King? Ironic though, the jews prob. can stay put :)
JiangxiDad on June 28, 2009 at 5:11 PM
Excellant idea!
HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 5:12 PM
OK, so we can take that as a challenge or a threat. Or finding new ideas.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 5:12 PM
November 3,2008…wait & see you’ve been warned.
January 22,2009 and so on,…..see.
christene on June 28, 2009 at 5:12 PM
I wonder what Obarfa’s screwing-up today.
JiangxiDad on June 28, 2009 at 5:12 PM
I would too. I would go where the strongest most committed would preserve our rights.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 5:14 PM
Grima Wormtongue.
Artifact67 on June 28, 2009 at 5:14 PM
How about a proposal to Ed Michelle and AP.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 5:15 PM
The revolt will come through the State Governments, just as it did during the Civil War.
States are seeing their power being taken by Washington, and are starting to talk about reasserting the 10th Amendment… but it may be a bit late.
Not sure which STATE will start it… but some State government will eventualy tell the Feds that they are wayyyy overstepping the Power and Authority granted by the Constitution… the US Supremes will side with the Feds… and some State will say too bad…
Personaly I think we need a push to Repeal the amendment which made Senators elected official, vice being appointed by the States.
This amendment, created in the early 1900s changed the power dynamic between the States and the Fed radicly… and was (like prohibition which was passed at about that same time) a really bad idea…
Add in that in this same timeframe they made the Income tax… and Fed Res Bank… and there were a lot of poor ideas from that time frame.
Romeo13 on June 28, 2009 at 5:16 PM
I think you are right. I know Louisiana would stand with us for sure. I’m sure we could count on red states that are not running large deficits.
First choice, like you, is to get America back on the right track.
HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 5:16 PM
His handicap!
HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 5:18 PM
I think the next thing is trying to figure out the right combination of senators to buy off so that fine POS from the house becomes the law (and ultimate downfall) of the land.
Pretty sure some sweet deals are coming down the pike to get FrankenTard in there ASAP.
BigWyo on June 28, 2009 at 5:20 PM
Never hurts to ask. But, there would be risks for them and I am not sure I would want to put them in an awkward position.
HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 5:22 PM
Probably no more than the Green Room. What kind of risks?
katy on June 28, 2009 at 5:23 PM
Punishing? I’ve got a rare genetic blood disease. One of the treatments I get costs 7k a pop and my health care costs are nowhere near as punishing as what this administration is doing to this country. These tax hikes and new laws they are shoving down our throats is what is punishing.
boomer on June 28, 2009 at 5:26 PM
Er … it’s about time that you start asking what promises Precedent Hussein has NOT broken. I can’t think of a single one, myself, but I’m sure there must be one or two out there.
The only consistency in Hussein’s policies are to pursue anything and everything that will weaken or harm the United States. It is well past time to arrest this traitor and put him on trial.
It’s The Precedent or The US.
progressoverpeace on June 28, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Hey Alex Jones, GTFO!
daesleeper on June 28, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Don’t usually use Wikipedia, but this rundown on Recall elections in the United States may be helpful.
From another Report for Congress, Recall of Legislators and the
Removal of Members of Congress from Office:
petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 5:30 PM
Just lost a long post in response. But to paraphrase. All you ideas are peaceful and legal. So let’s go for it.
HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Somebody needs to send Axlerod this link:
Single Payer Singularly Unsuccessful
http://www.i2i.org/main/article.php?article_id=158
Market systems reward those who reduce costs by increasing their profits. Government systems offer no such incentive with the result that single payer health care is extraordinarily costly to run. Wharton professor Patricia Danzon calculated that with all costs included the overhead of the Canadian system is about 45% of claims.
Her estimate of overhead for U.S. private insurers, net of government cost shifting, was about 7.6% of claims. Health actuary Mark Litow estimated that Medicare and Medicaid spend about 27 cents on overhead for every dollar of benefits. Private insurers spend about 16 cents. In Oregon, a decade long attempt to rationalize Medicaid spending by running it like a single payer system succeeded only in reducing access and doubling spending.
izoneguy on June 28, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Well, to be fair, he did promise unconditional talks with Iran… and now he’s going forward even when they are beating and killing their own people…. after a rig’d election…
and he did hang with Chavez!
Romeo13 on June 28, 2009 at 5:39 PM
We need to write a Contract for the Constitution and demand that our pols pledge their support it item-by-item before they get ours. Typical item: Reassert State Sovereignty through the Tenth Amendment.
While we would find it hard to recall federal senators and representatives who break their pledges, in many states recalling state officials would be a practical plan.
petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 5:40 PM
I can feel seeds of revolution growing in this country. There is a ground swell of people, I don’t know how many, but my gut says 10’s of thousands who are getting absolutely fed up with what we are seeing as the destruction of the United States of America and our way of life given to us by our Founding Fathers through our Constitution.
The Democrats along with some Republicans have set out to destroy America and everything that we stand for and patriots who love this country are saying “ENOUGH, DAMN IT…ENOUGH !!” If politicians are reading these blogs, they have got to see that WE THE PEOPLE are not going to stand idly by and allow the destruction of America to continue. Washington needs to start listening to the people. WE THE PEOPLE are Fed UP with the encroachment into our Freedoms, Property and our Hard Earned Labor!!
FreedomLover on June 28, 2009 at 5:41 PM
Obama could not keep a “firm” promise with the political equivalent of the “little blue pill”.
ICBM on June 28, 2009 at 5:42 PM
Axelrod, the evil mind behind the marxist liar.
BottomLine5 on June 28, 2009 at 5:43 PM
But he’s still failing on that, anyway! Though I give him extra brownie points for the Independence Day BBQ invites. That was inventive stuff.
That’s true. But this is not something he promised. This is something we all knew he was going to do. I’m sure he promised the opposite to someone at some point during the campaign.
It would be so nice if anyone ever actually held The Precedent to something he said for more than 20 minutes. But, that would take a sane nation …
progressoverpeace on June 28, 2009 at 5:46 PM
Yeah…. was talking to my son last night and we could not come up with a single thing in our lives that the FEDERAL Government does not have some control over.
At first I thought Religion… but then remembered that they can’t talk politics or they loose their tax exempt status…
Education? No child left…
Roads? Federal Highway funds…
Gas? Fed gas taxes and EPA rules…
Cars? Cafe standards… and saftey rules…
Food? FDA…
Internet? Taxes… and rules…
Heck, even my new drivers license has Federal rules about it from the Real ID act…
I can’t think of a single thing in my life that is not impacted by the FEDERAL Government of the US… even though the Constitution tried to really limit its scope, and reach.
Romeo13 on June 28, 2009 at 5:46 PM
I don’t visit a lot of blogs any more, so let me ask, is there a site for this already, a conservative action planning site? If so, I haven’t seen it. Newt’s comes to mind, but it’s broader, focusing more on conservative policy than political action plans.
Michelle has an action orientation. Whether through HA or some other site, it’s the kind of thing I’d expect her to undertake. Glenn Beck might do it too.
petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Axelrod strikes me as a Goebbels.
Chaz706 on June 28, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Give me an idea of the intent/purpose of the room?
katy on June 28, 2009 at 5:49 PM
I checked that out. Here in Colorado we have no recourse as far as recalling a senator or a representative goes. All we have for recourse is the next election and six years is a long time for having a sucky senator.
boomer on June 28, 2009 at 5:49 PM
So, if we cannot recall them then we have to give them a clue-they-cannot-ignore some other way.
I believe it would be difficult to get a million people to go to Washington and clog the streets while protesting.
Maybe, instead, coordinated protests at the local offices of 50 to a 100 Senators and Representatives, all at the same time, may begin to get a message across. It would be less of a problem to put a million people in the streets by putting many thousands at each of a 100 or more local offices.
That would require a lot less travel for so many people but would invole so many crowds that it would be very difficult for the media to totally ignore. It would mean a four hour drive for me to get to my Representative’s local office. I could do that. Maybe a lot more people would say “I can do that”.
The Congress needs to get the message that we will no longer accept them ignoring the desires of the people, and will no longer stand for them hand feeding Obama everything he desires.
Yoop on June 28, 2009 at 5:49 PM
Here are two promises that Obama has keot:
1.) Taking Michelle to New York City. (At taxpayer expense)
2.) Getting his daughters a puppy.
izoneguy on June 28, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Katy I’ve got to go fire up the grill (looking in drawer for carbon credits). Get with petefrt and I’ll return about 6:30 cdt with some input. Iv’e got faith in ya’ll ;)
HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Yes Beck would consider it. Newt is too political. He will want his hand in it for himself and will dilute or control any input/output. No current or present politicians as far as I’m concerned. Am I missing something?
The people need a large established site to organize thought, ideas, meetings, support groups by city or region, agendas.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 5:55 PM
I want mine rare please!
katy on June 28, 2009 at 5:56 PM
Yoop, get with Katy! I’ve got a feeling about this!
HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 5:56 PM
3) He promised CHANGE. He certainly has changed a lot of things in a short time.
Yoop on June 28, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Look – I’m actually applauding what the democrats are doing here – they’re committing political suicide and it’s hilarious to watch.
They actually believe that in 2012 people will vote for them who …
1. Have seen their power bills increase at least double due to Cap & Trade and the rest of the Obama retarded energy plan – which really is retarded. His only plan is to make energy so expensive – that the people are forced into sacrificing in order to cut down on energy consumption. But the problem with this is – people don’t like to sacrifice – and making people sacrifice doesn’t get you votes – ask Jimmy Carter, who was the first President in my lifetime to ask Americans to “tighten” their “belts” and the first President to I remember who put goals on reducing energy consumption. He lost in a landslide – one term President.
2. Have seen the Bush tax cuts expire – while Obama RAISES TAXES to compensate for Health Care and failing auto company profits. Folks – we’re car makers now and if no one buys Chrysler and GM cars (and I certainly won’t) … then Obama is going to have to take more of our money to subsidize those Unions who’ll be losing profits.
3. Have seen their health care benefits taxed (especially after Obama promised not to). They’re going to be especially pissed off for having to join a labor union to get relief from this tax. Yes that’s right sportsfans … the current Democratic plan is to tax all of us for our healthcare benefits – but give union members a “pass” on the same tax. Hell – why don’t the Democrats just drop all pretense – and just say that anyone who’s a member of the Democratic Party doesn’t have to pay taxes? We’ll have those rich Republican bastards pay for everything!
4. Have seen their government take charge of their family’s healthcare. I’m telling you folks – if you join the public plan (and you’ll be eventually forced to) … you’re going to be sorry. Because you’re going to be told “Nah, no drugs – go die”. And you aren’t going to be able to sue – because you can’t really sue the government. This is what you’re really giving up here – you’re giving up your right to appeal bad decision by the people who fund your healthcare.
Let the Democrats cut their throats – hell, I’m writing letters to my Democratic representives telling them to support everything Obama wants – because I know it’ll end up with the Democrats taking a most historic whipping at the polls.
We can’t lose here.
HondaV65 on June 28, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Don’t know the answer. But I do know it’s the squeaky wheel that gets the oil. The corollary is, of course, if you don’t squeak, you get ignored.
Our squeak needs to be so deafening and our political pressure so strong that no moderate-to-conservative pol would dare ignore it. If we need to study Saul Alinsky to figure out how it’s done, so be it.
petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 6:01 PM
Beck has already done the groundwork katy, We have meetup group sites that are spinoffs of his 9/12 site all over.
Here is ours
conservnut on June 28, 2009 at 6:03 PM
Small but tenacious groups who keep track of representaives votes, actions, meetings, statements, lobbists luncheons and put the word out daily on thier every move. If they want to know what we’re up to. we need to know what they’re up to and let everyone else know .
katy on June 28, 2009 at 6:06 PM
But Obama says it will reduce costs, therefore the facts are not facts at all, but partisan nonsense. It’s going to be free medical care for everyone, because that’s fair. Isn’t it unfair to deny coverage to illegal aliens, and to throw people out of emergency rooms for asking that their acrylic nails be fixed there? All we need to do is put the government in charge, and everything will be free!
/or not
mr.blacksheep on June 28, 2009 at 6:07 PM
From your mouth to G-d’s ears, but I don’t have as much faith as you. After all, we’re talking about a country that less than 20 years after the fall of the USSR and less than 8 years after 9/11 voted for a marxist named Hussein. I can’t say that I’ve ever seen such idiocy in my life, or read about anything worse.
progressoverpeace on June 28, 2009 at 6:08 PM
Thanks nut! I’ll look up my area….
boomer, where in CO. are you?
katy on June 28, 2009 at 6:10 PM
So, perhaps there could be a coordinated effort through Glenn Beck. He certainly has the pulpit for it.
Large crowds of protestors at 100 to 200 local offices of RINO Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats. Have to be large crowds. I mean LARGE. All on the same day. All with the same message: “We aren’t going to take it anymore. You represent the desires of the majority, or resign”.
Call it “WE, THE PEOPLE”.
The President is not a King, and we are not his subjects!
Yoop on June 28, 2009 at 6:10 PM
think you are right. I know Louisiana would stand with us for sure. I’m sure we could count on red states that are not running large deficits.
First choice, like you, is to get America back on the right track.
HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 5:16 PM
Absolutly, we are on the same page. We are under Napoleonic Law here, so I`m sure there are Laws in place to work with.I don`t want it to get to that point. Do you know when Cap and Trade goes before the Senate?
LSUMama on June 28, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Brush
boomer on June 28, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Yes, with the aim of generating an action plan. Not a policy debate or a discussion of positions, but an action plan.
petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 6:13 PM
Brush? is that before or after Sticks?
But then again… I live in Highlands Ranch… where we have no Highlanders, and no Ranches anymore… soo….
Romeo13 on June 28, 2009 at 6:16 PM
Hopefully yours will be as good as ours, they provide just about everything you wanted. I get about 5 to 10 e-mails a day informing me of legislation, state, local and federal. Contact information for politicos and bureaucratic offices and calls to action to annoy the hell out of them. Our congressman has met with us a few times now. I think we scare the hell out of him! But it is a great way to stay on top of things and get things organized.
conservnut on June 28, 2009 at 6:17 PM
Awwwriight ! Let’s see what they’re up to in western PA.
petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 6:17 PM
I’m not sure. It’s been so dry here the last few years we don’t even have sticks left. This year though….wow! We have gotten a lotta rain and the sticks are poking back up so to answer your questions about 90 miles NE of Denver.
boomer on June 28, 2009 at 6:19 PM
Such has been the patient sufferance of the United States of America; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former System of Government. The history of the current Congress of the United States is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.
I guess I am now a certified right wing extremist….see ya’ll at the camps! lol
lsutiger on June 28, 2009 at 6:19 PM
This would be a good start. I want them uncomfortable. I want them to know that everything they do is being watched and exposed!
That was the point ai was making much earlier. All we have been doing is venting our angst over the internet. It’s time to move to another phase. Community action. God I hate the word community….. anyway, out in the streets, on the phone, video tape their lunches with lobbyists. whatever creative ideas people come up with that are legal.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 6:19 PM
Completely agree but I just sit back and realize that Obama is not God – he puts his pants on in the morning same as I do. He’s not that smart – and he’s proving it daily.
First off – he should have never put out that 3 Trillion Stimulus – because now it’s a boat anchor around the necks of his Cap and Trade and Health Care proposals – which guarantee to double down on the budget deficits he’s already doubled- down on.
Once ordinary people see that money is falling out of their wallets – and into the hands of the Democrats and the Unions – I’ll be surprised if you don’t see them in the streets like the Iranians have been. Literally – have faith my friend – in 3 years the big story will be “WTF happened to the Democratic Party???!!!”
HondaV65 on June 28, 2009 at 6:20 PM
Katy, here is a sight like that for the Greeley area.
boomer on June 28, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Gee, I should learn to spell.
Katy, here is a
sightsite like that for the Greeley area.boomer on June 28, 2009 at 6:23 PM
I was just joke’n…. I live in South Denver… been through Brush a couple of times on my way to of all places… Wray… LOL…
Romeo13 on June 28, 2009 at 6:23 PM
anything goingon in brush as far as the meetups? Who is your rep.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Wow, you went past the sticks.
boomer on June 28, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Check this site too folks, click on the locations button at the top and it will link you to different tea party outfits in your state/area
conservnut on June 28, 2009 at 6:26 PM
No, nothing in this area. There is a coordinator in Sterling I guess but, I haven’t heard of anything going on over there. Our rep USED to be Marilyn Musgrave, I knew her for years and she was a great woman. Betsy Markey beat her out this last election though and yes, Markey did vote for crap and tax.
boomer on June 28, 2009 at 6:27 PM
This is not my question but does anyone besides me see an uncanny resemblance between Axelrod and Hitler?
My Question:
If Obummer pushes through this health scam does that mean all Government and State employees will be covered under his plan since all of their benefits are paid by taxpayers,just wondering?
concernedsenior on June 28, 2009 at 6:27 PM
Great!
Have you been to the meet ups in Greely?
katy on June 28, 2009 at 6:27 PM
You may have already found it katy but here is one for the Greeley area.
conservnut on June 28, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Whoops! I guess it’s already called “WE THE PEOPLE”.
Well, let’s get it moved off the internet sites and into the street in front of the Congress Critters offices.
They don’t read the internet, but they can’t ignore their front doors as easily. My guess is they could not bar us from the front door of their offices since WE PAY THE RENT.
;-)
Yoop on June 28, 2009 at 6:29 PM
No, I just found the site today. If they are having a protest on the 4th I may go over there.
boomer on June 28, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Oops, boomer beat me to it katy
conservnut on June 28, 2009 at 6:30 PM
LOL, they are having a protest too so I’m gonna try to make it up that direction.
boomer on June 28, 2009 at 6:31 PM
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/Default.aspx?state=Colorado
boomer or anyone in Colorado. Here are the tea parties in every area of the state. Scroll down.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 6:34 PM
Exactly right Yoop, they will listen, when several hundred show up it freaks them out. They have never seen the “silent majority” so pissed and outspoken. Next they will want to meet with your group. that is the fun part, our congress critter is Kevin Brady, he came to one of our meetups to talk. Now he is not a real bad guy, he did support tarp one with Bush though and he got hammered for it. By the end of the meeting he was saying never again never again. He also came to our tax day protest and spoke.
The jury is still out on him, most of the group wants another alternative in 2010. I guess we will see if someone steps up to run against him.
conservnut on June 28, 2009 at 6:36 PM
What I’m getting from all this is there is a lot of potential energy ready to become kenetic.
boom…
katy on June 28, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Just thinking out loud here, but the tea parties were protests directed at the government in general, correct? Effective as they were, would a different effort work, running parallel to the tea parties.
The only way we may get to some of these Senators and Representatives is to strongly personalize the protest. We need to let them know that we are not going after the entire government in general (since that gives them a big skirt to hide behind), but EACH ONE OF THEM, as an individual, personally and directly.
Yoop on June 28, 2009 at 6:39 PM
ok, let’s get back to basics wrt the Alinsky/Ax/Obama crowd.
How best to take stuff from the haves and give it to the have nots.
PS…just in case you are still clueless, those “haves” are the middle class (you know, that middle class that Wright was always bitching about)
PPS…and of course the super-haves (and pols) with be taking “business vatactions” to get their healthcare. Or maybe the rules will just let them pay for their special treatment here in the US. I mean really, doesn’t Obama have a right to provide the best healthcare to his wife and children?
r keller on June 28, 2009 at 6:39 PM
Have fun! My wife went so far as to have professional “Don’t Tread ON Me” signs made for ours.
It’s a blast being a radical!!!!
conservnut on June 28, 2009 at 6:40 PM
I just bought a “Don’t tread on me flag”. I’m thinking of taking it alon.
boomer on June 28, 2009 at 6:41 PM
Great! So Udall votes for the crap & traitor bill and he sees or hears about a hundred signs telling the public all about what a scam it was and how he never read the bill with his name in BIG FAT letters…
katy on June 28, 2009 at 6:42 PM
I’m speaking future here folks.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Lying Commie Rat Bastages, all of them!
MCPO Airdale on June 28, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Bennett and Udall still have a chance t do the right thing but only if they see what the House members will endure. Nothing…. if we do nothing.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 6:45 PM
I have to go. My wife is making me watch a chick flick.
boomer on June 28, 2009 at 6:49 PM
The signs are one of the great parts. Some pretty creative folks!
conservnut on June 28, 2009 at 6:50 PM
see ya boomer , thanks! which one?
katy on June 28, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Sympathies
conservnut on June 28, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Dangerous human this Axelrod character.
FireBlogger on June 28, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Thanks for the leads on meet ups nut! I see there are quite a few here. I have to do this. I’m going nuts.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Katy, Yoop, Boomer, Conservnut…
I knew if I left it to the smart people you guys would come up with better ideas than me.
Katy..tenderloins are next, rare it is (gal after my own heart)
HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 6:52 PM
Ah, then my work here is done. you have done well katynut!
conservnut on June 28, 2009 at 6:53 PM
I would say I will be right over, but I am pulling my smoked pork ribs off now.
Enjoy!
conservnut on June 28, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Obama’s broken so many promises and mislead on so many issues:
Broken promises one after the other for the MSM to ignore.
We have Obama making bogus statements like these:
Takes over the car industry,banking industry,and now working on taking over the healthcare industry.
No big government plans at all!!!!!!!!
Candidate Obama said(March 12,2008)
In only 6 months,hundreds of billions of dollars have been dolled out in ear marks from our Paparazzi President.
Over 20 lobbyist and counting in Mr. Hope and Change’s administration.
In his weekly address today, President Obama calls for fiscal discipline and says his administration will eliminate waste and increase efficiency.
It would be hard for me to believe that even the most brain
washed Obama follower didn’t laugh when they heard this bullsh!t line.
But Mr. Obama must think the press and public are dumb enough to buy it, because there he was Tuesday re-selling the same “paygo” promises that Democrats roll out every election.
So far cutting defense in a time of war is the only “cuts”
Mr. trillions in the red has been able to make.Not even close to the trillions he has spent so far.
Remember when Bush used Rendition,wiretapping,and indefinite detention,he was a war criminal.
Liberals and their savior Obama whined incessantly about the injustices of these policies and how they were going to bring “hope and change” to follow the letter of the law and improve our image abroad.
As with everything with Obama,there was an expiration date with these promises:
Improving “Our” Image in the World
This is still one of the best examples of how clueless and naive Obama is:
A Democratic debate in September 13, 2007(Obama commenting on the Surge):
No credibility,no success,no accomplishments what-so-ever from Mr. 57 states.
If it was not for our Pravda west covering for Obama and his American Idol like flock that adore him no matter how much he lies to them and fails,this guy would be out on his butt in a second.
Baxter Greene on June 28, 2009 at 7:01 PM
I’ll savor my virtual tenderlions nut! Wow… that sounded really dirty…
HR. Thanks. The meet up groups seem to be the place to start in our own neighborhoods. I still think we should throw the HA war room idea around though…The same things some of us learned today can get others involved and that is why the room would be a great idea.
I’m eyes are burning from my monitor today and I need to go shoot some ammo for a change of pace.
See y’ll later.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Put Mississippi down as those preparing to make sure we can cut the ties that bind. Some of our recent legislation got stuck in a Senate committee, but it really does not matter. IF we decided to do this dance again, we will be ready, and nothing the state Senate does will stop us. We will join Texas, and any others if necessary.
Speaking of this being a second dance for some states, I might suggest you study up on where we failed. This is going to be a same song second verse deal, and history is always the key, and where you find the answers. No use reinventing the wheel here folks.
With that being said, I am all for succeeding being the last resort, and dittos to violence. We here are keenly aware of the fallout after succession. Being labeled a racist for life is not fun, nor accurate. If we can remove some Congressional members peacefully, and work to defeat President Skateboard’s legislation, that is by far preferred.
A word of caution, Alinksky rules are all about chaos, and creating massive amounts of it. They want us to rise up, armed to the teeth, and storming Washington. That we must not give them! He will institute Marshall Law at the drop of a hat. For us, instituting Marshall Law is what we must be ready for. It is every man and woman to arms at that point, because they will come for our guns.
For anyone here who does not own a gun, please go to a shooting range and learn how to shoot. A gun will be furnished you if we ever reach such a level, and I would much prefer the comfort of knowing you know how to shoot. I get a little nervous about those who are with us, but do not know how to handle a gun. LOL!
freeus on June 28, 2009 at 7:05 PM
P.S. Mark Levin said on Friday that Landmark Legal Foundation is getting ready to launch some lawsuits against President Me-Myself & I.
freeus on June 28, 2009 at 7:07 PM
Thanks! great job BG I’m taking your hard work and making an email out of it to go viral.
Gotta run
katy on June 28, 2009 at 7:08 PM
Baxter Greene on June 28, 2009 at 7:01 PM
My hat is off to you sir.
fourdeucer on June 28, 2009 at 7:09 PM
Thanks,
Appreciate your work also,we are all in this together
Baxter Greene on June 28, 2009 at 7:13 PM
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