Surprise: Axelrod refuses to rule out tax hike to pay for ObamaCare
posted at 2:49 pm on June 28, 2009 by Allahpundit
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I don’t blame him. The “pile of sh*t” that passed the House on Friday, which even Obama pal Warren Buffett describes as a “huge tax,” already shattered The One’s pledge not to raise taxes on people who make less than $250,000. Now that they’re in for a penny, they might as well be in for a pound:
I pressed Axelrod on whether Obama will draw a line in the sand and veto any bill that funds health care reform with tax hikes for people making under $250,000 a year — a pledge Barack Obama made during the 2008 presidential campaign.
“One of the problems we’ve had in this town is that people draw lines in the sand and they stop talking to each other. And you don’t get anything done. That’s not the way the president approaches us. He is very cognizant of protecting people — middle class people, hard-working people who are trying to get along in a very difficult economy. And he will continue to represent them in these talks,” Axelrod said.
“But they’re also dealing with punishing health care costs, and that’s something that we have to deal with.”
This wouldn’t be the only health-care “line in the sand” drawn during the campaign that’s now being quietly washed away by economic reality. As for foreign policy, Ax helpfully informed Stephanopoulos that it’s still full speed ahead on negotiations with Iran. You can watch that clip here but I recommend his exchange on the same topic with David Gregory instead, as Gregory presses him on what consequences Iran should suffer for its brutality. Ax has no answers, of course. Note also his insistence (in both interviews) that Ahmadinejad has no say in setting foreign policy, which (a) may be technically true but is meaningless in practice, given that Khamenei obviously supports Ahmadinejad’s vision enough to rig an election for him and (b) may not even be technically true anymore given the astounding power the Revolutionary Guard now has in Iran. If you missed Gary Sick’s short but essential piece in Headlines last night on who really holds the cards there, read it now. The election was more of a coup than you thought.
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Since when does the Obama administration stay away from “firm” promises?
Rightwing Czar on June 28, 2009 at 2:52 PM
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
All that needs to be said to the the government at this point…
Wolftech on June 28, 2009 at 2:55 PM
I am wondering, once ObamaCare is passed and all is right in the world (because we’ll all have AnninCA’s Kaiser plan) what becomes of all of the people who have been “bankrupted” by health issues?
Will the federal government wipe the slate clean for those people? Will the bills piled up by an injury or cancer diagnosis six months ago just disappear at the bill signing?
Or will the people who have been crushed by healthcare debt in the past be further dissed by having an increase in their taxes to pay for the healthcare of others?
Has this ever been addressed?
myrenovations on June 28, 2009 at 2:56 PM
Rarely are statements written with such nobility. Thanks for that; was great reading it again!
Liam on June 28, 2009 at 3:01 PM
Unfortunately that kind of analysis if above the average media paygrade.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 3:01 PM
It would be nice if all the “moderate” Obama voters would just admit to having been scammed. I know it’s hard, but they will feel much better once they get it over with.
Once that is done, we can get down to stopping him from destroying the country.
forest on June 28, 2009 at 3:02 PM
We work for them now. Eventually, we won’t even get paid. We will just turn over our entire paychecks and the nanny state will just issue us those little credit cards for what it says we need and are allowed to have. Once the credits on it are gone for the month, we will just have to do without.
Jvette on June 28, 2009 at 3:02 PM
I am not convinced the American people have the will to do what the Iranians did…
Time to watch “The Patriot” tonight…. sigh.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Obama’s promise not to tax health insurance premium that the employers pay as income for the employees does stand for union members.
One would be very naive to believe anything that street hustling organizer had said on his way of lying himself into the White House.
bayview on June 28, 2009 at 3:04 PM
“Invalid Parameter”
First time I ever got that.
lowandslow on June 28, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Right before our eyes……
………. and it’s even being televised.
So what were you doing when the United States of America was destroyed…….?
Seven Percent Solution on June 28, 2009 at 3:06 PM
Just a thought, please: Beware the wrath of a patient man
Liam on June 28, 2009 at 3:07 PM
What’s the big reluctance to issue a firm statement on the matter?
By now, everybody understands that ALL Obama promises have built-in expiration dates.
cruadin on June 28, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Obama is really setting himself up to be unpopular. He is doing everything to alienate not only the right, but the middle class moderates as well. On top of that, he is disappointing the Left by not being as un-Bush as he promised he would be.
By the time 2012 comes around, he may well be the most unpopular president evah, even besting George Bush. To think he is only 5 months in and things are getting worse for him by the day.
What’s even more promising, is that there is nothing that could possibly go his way. He can not possibly find new tax money without losing more public support, his cap n trade can not possibly be pulled off without tanking both production and consumption, his socialized medicine is not likely to pass, and if it did, it could not pass in a way that would not seriously hurt the economy even more, the dictators of the world will not possibly become less belligerent, they will become more belligerent, the economy can not possibly recover in such a short time to restore consumer confidence and thus voter confidence, and the debt that the US has can not possibly be tamed with any of his policies, but it can, and will, be made worse with such, and on and one it goes.
There is no hope for obama because 1), he became president at a time when circumstances dictate that no president could be popular, and 2) everything he is trying to do will hurt the economy and make him even less popular than any other equally untimely president would otherwise be.
keep the change on June 28, 2009 at 3:08 PM
Keep trying and click it several times. It will work.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Not quite…
There could be no stronger example of the importance of those words than to witness the most important story in the world of the past week (it was not the untimely death of an over-the-hill, drug addled, pedophile). We posses what the Iranian people could only dream of having.
Other than that your opinion is very well put.
turfmann on June 28, 2009 at 3:11 PM
don’t worry though, the democrats are working on a deal that will tax health care benefits but Unions will exempted from the tax.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=aDvu77pZr7k4
rob verdi on June 28, 2009 at 3:15 PM
All true except for Obama’s other plan which says he isn’t worried about his popularity because…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbxYtrHa6N8
katy on June 28, 2009 at 3:17 PM
This president is a lame duck six months in. He better hope none of these IG’s firings along with the Americorp/Acorn connections has him out of office before 2010.
.
GHWB presidency died of the promise of “NO NEW TAXES” and so shall BHO. No ifs, ands or buts about it. Uncovering the simplicity of conditionals of his campaign promises notwithstanding the verdict for his second term is a foregone conclusion that predeterminations that will be judged by the American pulic.
Americannodash on June 28, 2009 at 3:18 PM
What have you been smoking?
That’s a hint as to the massive tax increase already imposed on millions of Americans.
corona on June 28, 2009 at 3:20 PM
“I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”
George Mason
Co-author of the Second Amendment
Just in cause anyone questions the use of Militia in the 2nd Amendment.
And while I agree that the 1st is supposed to allow us to redress grievances, how exactly have we been able to do that when you have to have special permission to even sue the federal government, when our own elected officials refuse to listen to their constituents and vote for whatever lobbyist lined their pockets wants, and when ignore the constitution outright and do whatever they want?
You are right, there is more that needs to be said to the government. Its high time we restore the Constitution to its rightful place.
Wolftech on June 28, 2009 at 3:20 PM
Obama administration promises have an expiration date of 15 seconds after having been uttered.
Those 15 seconds were a great time to be alive though.
portlandon on June 28, 2009 at 3:23 PM
This is just like government. CREATE the problem and then offer to confiscate people’s money to pay for it.
Americans have become stupid and lazy.
Epic Fail = Change
Mojave Mark on June 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM
Taxes will go up, prices for groceries, etc will go up, everything will go up.
How the H*ll do people think Health care gets paid for in Canada and other countries? Go across the border and buy some beer. You’ll figure it out right quick.
mjk on June 28, 2009 at 3:24 PM
JiangxiDad on June 28, 2009 at 3:25 PM
There are millions upon millions of people who agree with you. Millions who are armed.
Tell me what this will look like to you?
katy on June 28, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase.
- Barack Obama
El_Terrible on June 28, 2009 at 3:28 PM
The time always finally approaches when patience is no longer a virtue and must be replaced by action. It would appear that that point arrived already. To wish otherwise is pure folly.
Yoop on June 28, 2009 at 3:30 PM
MB4 on June 28, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Uh, how do we know this?
We’ll never get anywhere on anything in the Middle East until we admit that all our troubles there stem from our unqualified support for the illegal state of Israel.
True_King on June 28, 2009 at 3:31 PM
At around the 10-13 second mark it sounds like Ax, (Hitler’s body double), sighs heavily, or blows his breath. Irritated? Hmmm.
I smell that pungent, stinky smell of mendacity! Ax was gassing up the Meet the Depressed studio. EW!
freeus on June 28, 2009 at 3:31 PM
And Barack keeps writing his resume…
JiangxiDad on June 28, 2009 at 3:32 PM
This is all a bummer but on the other hand it’s
U.S.A. 2
Brazil 0
at the half in the Confederations Cup final. So today isn’t all bad. Go Yanks!
PackerBronco on June 28, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Doctors and nurses like a school yard Mussolini he likes to bait
But if he had any wisdom to go down that road he would hesitate
Even those in his own party who don’t tow his line
Will get hung out on the vine
As Obama’s snake oil starts to be seen through
He will add to his bag of tricks some more fascist venom too
With creepy Harry and Nancy he likes to whore
Wont be forever till more and more know the score
Neville Chamberlain he would never emulate
As he thinks that he thought too small and gave too little too late
If scarin’ folks dont do the trick
His health care system will make you all dies or at least get very sick
When it comes to crushing dissent and preaching hate
The fascist Obama team just can’t wait
MB4 on June 28, 2009 at 3:34 PM
Wonderful. A tax increase at the same time our healthcare is taken over the Three Stooges, Al Capone and Lenin…at the same time businesses are shafting their own countrymen by the thousands for cheap foreign slave labor…all while the jackbooted left is making huge strides.
Anyone else think it’s time to start frequenting survivalist/militia forums?
Dark-Star on June 28, 2009 at 3:34 PM
I’ll ask you what I asked Wolftech. What does that look like?
katy on June 28, 2009 at 3:35 PM
If he had understood economy and were honest and pragmatic he could have been remembered as best president ever , but as you say everything he does is the opposite.
the_nile on June 28, 2009 at 3:39 PM
Idiot/troll alert!
ProfessorMiao on June 28, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Herr Axelrod is a deceiver, a dissembler
His trousers are alight
From what pole or gallows
Shall they dangle in the night?
What infernal serpent
Has lent him his forked tongue?
From what pit of foul deceit
Are all his whoppers sprung?
What red devil of mendacity
Grips his soul with such tenacity?
Will not one he cruelly showers with lies
Put a fist between his eyes?
PercyB on June 28, 2009 at 3:41 PM
FYI——– FOX NATION IS NOTHING MORE THAN A PLACE TO CENSOR FREE SPEECH FOX GOING DOWN THE TUBE ( SEEMS THEY WANT OBAMAB AS A GUEST SO MUCH THEY DONT ALLOW FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION)
rone5847 on June 28, 2009 at 3:42 PM
That was an ignorant and pathetic statement. You must be of the replacement theology cult.
Please explain to us how the world voted for and the UN sanctioned and illegal state?
-PROGRESSOVERPEACE- WHERE ARE YOU???????
katy on June 28, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Like the United States on 8 December 1941. Like the United States on 12 September 2001. Like the United States on 4 November 1980….
apostic on June 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Excellent work, posting Gary Sick’s Column, AP.
Thank you.
Saltysam on June 28, 2009 at 3:47 PM
I want to know what an American uprising looks like. How does one invision something that hasn’t been done in the last 2 hundred years?
katy on June 28, 2009 at 3:48 PM
offtopic-anyone else see the Honduras Coup News? How quickly Obama rushes to support an ally of Chavez…really makes the picture clear doesn’t it.
theguardianii on June 28, 2009 at 3:50 PM
What a sleazebag. An appropriate spokesmodel for a socialist regime.
n0doz on June 28, 2009 at 3:50 PM
No need to volunteer yourself unto a government watch list. Just do the proper shopping for inventory and pay close attention to what the reliable parts of the non-MSM news sources are telling you is really going on in Washington.
Have a plan, and have the tools and necessities to accomplish it. No one (repeat: no one) is going to be doing it for you if the time comes that “survivalist/militia forums” have the immediate answer to the immediate present. At that time it is too late to formulate a plan of action.
Yoop on June 28, 2009 at 3:50 PM
PercyB on June 28, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Chisel it in stone, my friend. Chisel. it. in. stone.
Saltysam on June 28, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Notice they have to ram this stuff through quickly. Remember what these people are: thugs and sociopaths.
A gang throws a brick through the window of an electronics store. The alarm goes off. They know they have a very short window of time in which to grab as much stuff as they can.
That’s what’s going on here. Cut through the idealist crap. We’re being looted.
jeff_from_mpls on June 28, 2009 at 3:55 PM
We know…
The frustration with everyone I know and the thing I hear people say is … what can we do?
It’s a horrible crushing feeling because everday goes by we are indeed being looted. Bled out. And it may be too late, but we are at the tea party phase….. What the hell can we do. It’s a hopeless feeling and Obama knows it.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Any plan that relies on sheep to negotiate with wolves is doomed to failure.
HalJordan on June 28, 2009 at 4:02 PM
And the alarm company and the cops are paid off.
It’s up to the store owners to kick some ass.
izoneguy on June 28, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Place those items on the to do list, along with repealing the sixteenth and seventeenth amendments, adding an amendment that specifically excludes the federal government from owning any portion of a corporation – feel free to add or delete your own – but we have to straighten this mess out.
My sophomoric suggestion for the day is to gather the members of Congress together and have the tenth amendment tattooed upon their foreheads.
With dull needles.
turfmann on June 28, 2009 at 4:05 PM
Ah. We’ve got one of those.
Jim Treacher on June 28, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Life will be wonderful living under His Royal Majesty Barack Obama’s American Reich.
We will live in homes powered by windmills and solar panels so controlling our weight will be easy as there won’t be enough electricity to power anything more than a small refrigerator. Not enough power for air conditioning in the summer so we will sweat off any excess weight. Not enough power for much in the way of heat in the winter so we will have to do calisthenics to keep half way warm so cardiovascular health should improve immensely. We probably will hardly even need to get in our Government Motors battery powered
golf cartscars to even go to see a Obama/Kevorkian/Mengele doctor.Have faith, I think this will all work out for the better….
MB4 on June 28, 2009 at 4:09 PM
It’s ok, really it is. They haven’t stopped manufacturing ammunition and rope yet, and even if they did we have more than enough of both to solve this problem for ourselves. Maybe the remaining few will listen a little better if Washington D.C. starts looking like a christmas tree decorated with human ornaments.
Spiritk9 on June 28, 2009 at 4:09 PM
Hopefully we can succeed with a peaceful uprising and I think this 4th will be a good start (ours is on the 3rd).
I know most Americans feel the same way. However, as this administration continues to trash the constitution and keeps over stepping its authority. Just look our look our way and find out. We have’t had any good reason to resurrect “Remember the Alamo” but maybe…..
HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 4:09 PM
OT:Sarah Palin wins Kansas Strawpoll for 2012 nominee
President — 2012
Sarah Palin: 76
Mike Huckabee: 54
Mitt Romney: 52
Bobby Jindal: 19
Ron Paul: 9
Allah? post please???
portlandon on June 28, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Every time I see Axelrod, I think of a large wet rat. Of course, him being from Chicago, that’s understandable.
Between the Ballerina, the Rat, and Pork Pig the press secretary, they have quite a triumvirate of “talent”. Using the word extremely loosely, of course.
bradley11 on June 28, 2009 at 4:11 PM
The tea parties were a legitimate embryo with promise, but without an action plan plus specific goals and timelines, the impetus is being lost. Targeted work stoppages, adjusting exemptions on one’s payroll witholding, etc are lilely possibilities, but I have not seen that type of organizational effort. Demonstrations by themselves won’t get it done.
a capella on June 28, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Here’s your headline…
Huckabee, Romney, Jindal and Paul combine to out poll Palin in Kansas Strawpoll. Her Political Future in Doubt.
POSTED AT 2:49 PM ON JUNE 28, 2009 BY ALLAHPUNDIT
turfmann on June 28, 2009 at 4:14 PM
OK, shoot me an email and then and let me know how it’s going.. I’ll be in my new home on Ambergris Caye, Belize.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 4:14 PM
katy,
Your question is vaid, and interesting. One could speculate that the initial uprising would take the form of an inundation of the congress critters with such an avalanche of communications (phone, email, personal visits, etc.) that they would get the message and actually begin to worry about the job and power retention that they so cherish.
One would think that, but it does appear that they aren’t paying attention to that approach at this time, or simply don’t care what the people actually think or desire.
So, it would seem that the next approach would be a million or more people pouring into the streets to protest that “enough is enough”.
That would look to be an “Iranian” approach. The Iranian government’s put down of that approach worked because they were probably about 99% sure that they were not confronting a populace that was armed and might be able to fight back. They were also about 99% sure the groups they used to put down the protest would be loyal to their orders.
Now,in the face of such a protest in the US, and a government order to disperse said protest with the use of force, the government would be ___% sure that they were not confronting an armed group, and the government would be ___% sure that the organizations ordered to quell the protest would be loyal and follow orders.
(Filling in the blanks may start to answer your question)
Yoop on June 28, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Every time I see Axelrod, I think of a large wet rat. Of course, him being from Chicago, that’s understandable.
Between the Ballerina, the Rat, and Pork Pig the press secretary, they have quite a triumvirate of “talent”. Using the word extremely loosely, of course.
bradley11 on June 28, 2009 at 4:11 PM
.
If that is not the perfect outline for a SNL skit, then nothing is. Well done Bradley11.
Americannodash on June 28, 2009 at 4:19 PM
It is raining crap today! Now we are down to Brazil!!!!!!! 3-2. Came out flat in the second half!
On the other hand it is raining rain in my part of Dixie! Haven’t seen rain in over four weeks!!!!!!!! It is beautiful!
Hilarious!
freeus on June 28, 2009 at 4:20 PM
Fixed
NoFanofLibs on June 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM
That’s what I’m trying to fluch out. What would a modern day Alamo look like.
Those are good ideas we need to start talking about. We’re still in the shock and paralysis stage. This is good stuff.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 4:24 PM
I wonder if Axelrod lies his way through cabinet meetings as much as he lied on MTP and Stephie today?
Speakup on June 28, 2009 at 4:24 PM
Houston we have a problem.. fluch=flush HA!
katy on June 28, 2009 at 4:24 PM
In reality I do not think that would take place here. Our state is being run well (for the moment). There is a growing movement down here for succession and I think that would happen before violence. Now, I am not for violence, but would rather fight to save this great country from itself. I was taught that sacrifice for the common good was always better than looking out for self interest.
HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Americans have uprisings every now and again. We’ve been fortunate thus far that most of them have not been directed against our duly elected officials and their appointed bodies. Else, we have also been further fortunate that uprisings against officials have been handled at the ballot box. (See also CA recall vote 7 Oct 2003.)
Hard to envision the patient wrath at this time because, for example, free assembly is still available to express a problem and maybe — just maybe — open an avenue for redress. I don’t care to envision what might happen if that went away. Not suggesting it might; just saying it’s invaluable just now. Example: At this point in time, Tea Party protests are like the patient wrath; sure, there’s no violence, but we are talking about people who probably never thought they’d ever protest anything out there marching with signs. They’re acting out of character from what they thought they’d do.
I sincerely hope it doesn’t come to running out of options; people sometimes do scary stuff when they think they’re out of options, especially when they’ve been patient for a long time.
Maybe it’s best not to envision a violent uprising for now. It’s not inevitable like, say, death. For each of us, death is inevitable, and maybe we prepare for it by buying insurance and writing wills, but most people don’t waste their short lives envisioning death. A violent uprising is probably less inevitable than death; therefore, I see even less reason to envision it. And I’ll not be talking about preparing for it beyond citing the 2nd Ammendment, which is there for every elected administration.
OK, that’s a longer answer than I usually give. Sorry about that.
apostic on June 28, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Well, I’ve mentioned it before on HA but I’m a 5 hour drive from TX and would move there in a heartbeat if things began to heat up.
I want nothing more than a peaceful solution. The problem is Obama wants an ugly one. He must have chaos in oder to push such radicalization as effectively as he can. Therein lies the problem.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Clarification: By common good I mean protection of the constitution, life, liberty, and pursuit.
don’t want statement to be confused with bleeding heart liberal BS
HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 4:35 PM
I agree with you completely. But, he is would be grossly misjudgeing the sentiments and the patriotism of the majority. In other words he would be consistant.
HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 4:39 PM
No no this is good. I think we are coming to a place where we need to start forming some practical and tangible ideas of where we are heading. Up to this point it all seems to be a gripe session on the internet and I wonder if there was no internet to vent on, would people be finding their voice in other more effective ways.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 4:39 PM
He cannot help it, he is enlightened.
myrenovations on June 28, 2009 at 4:39 PM
In BO’s brave new world, smart grids will usher in smart thermostats, smart air conditioners, smart energy rationing, and smart health care rationing. Key to smart health care will be the smart crapper, which daily sends Big Brother a comprehensive stool and urine analysis, including breakdowns of what and how much we’ve been eating, drinking and smoking for the past 24 hours. Living in our homes will be like living in a fish bowl, with the cat of Big Brother hovering above.
petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 4:42 PM
I’m also not saying I think the internet has been a waste. Absolutley not! It is a lifeline and is changing things for the better. It is the ultimate town hall.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 4:43 PM
One point of interest: how many states have provisions for recall petitions for congress critters?
If a large number of recall petitions were to be started,, all over the country, some of these politicians might get a clue that the people were serious, and might get worried enough to change their ways real quick.
Anyone have a sense for how many states may fall into this category? Even just having to fight recall petitions might slow them down or distract them.
Yoop on June 28, 2009 at 4:44 PM
IThey cannot stop millions of Americans who resist the census, the thermostats, the junker trade ins, work stopages ect.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 4:46 PM
Good Afternoon, Herr Himmler.
bluelightbrigade on June 28, 2009 at 4:48 PM
So was Nietzsche.
bluelightbrigade on June 28, 2009 at 4:49 PM
About ten percent of the populous were patriots,many others went to Canada ,some were loyalists/ traitor’s.
Many of the founders also were left pennyless but died knowing they had set people free.
Now we are more concerned with the gloved one and his lifestyle.
Still it will take about Ten Percent and once it starts there will be Hell to pay.
Col.John Wm. Reed on June 28, 2009 at 4:50 PM
I’m with you. We need to start planning for contingencies and next steps.
petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Agreed.
I truely beleive that O has awaked a sleeping giant. Conservative have not historically been activist by nature. But we are watching that change before our eyes. There are still too many patriotic Americans that are not going to let this county go down without a fight.
It may take a while to get the coordination needed to be successful. But, it will happen.
HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 4:51 PM
This is the kind of stuff we all need to start doing. I don’t know the answer to this but simply discussing it moves us byond the shock phase.
That is a great idea. There are hundreds of great ideas. The Progressives are light years ahead of us and have set traps at every level and we are still in the WThell stage.
a good start would be to immediatley get a recall petition drive for the 8 Reps from Fridays vote. The Senate may sit up a little straighter if they know this is coming down the pike.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 4:51 PM
I keep thinking it is wrong of me to judge these people for their looks. (Even though you can tell something of a person by their looks.)
But when I look at Waxman, for example, I think – this person just looks evil.
Pelosi, on the other hand, looks good for her age and looked good when she was younger. But even she breaks down when you watch her, because she messes herself up with all those forced fake smiles between words, like a beauty contestant trying to keep smiling no matter what, and with her pointy finger jabs.
But surely just because these people look so maleficent (Rahm), unappetizing (Gibbs), degenerate (Frank), sleezy (Axelrod), and so on, probably shouldn’t make me dislike them more than their words and actions (which are maleficent, unappetizing, degenerate, sleezy, and so on).
But it certainly adds to it. If one were typecasting for a movie, these people and others on their team would be perfect – on looks alone – as the bad guys. Obama is something of an exception, being attractive and pleasing to look at, except when he is looking cold-hearted (which is a great deal of the time).
In any case, though it may be wrong, I never saw such a rogue’s gallery for absolutely looking like evil people.
Alana on June 28, 2009 at 4:52 PM
Illegal state?
Johan Klaus on June 28, 2009 at 4:53 PM
You’re right. It only takes a few unyielding types to make it happen.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 4:53 PM
good reason to resurrect “Remember the Alamo” but maybe…..
HoustonRight on June 28, 2009 at 4:09 PM
HoustonRight, I have thought of this many times in the past six months and wondered if this might happen again. I will always “Remember the Alamo” and those brave, brave men.
yoda on June 28, 2009 at 4:58 PM
If HA had a WAR ROOM….
A place where commenters can focus on a set of issues. Ideas, Practical solutions, Tactical coordination, protest schedules, recall petition coordination, lawfirms/lawers (hey we may need them) etc.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 4:58 PM
lawyers…
guns and money!
katy on June 28, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Never in my life has an administration been so full of slimy sleazy schemers and liars as this one. But because Obama is a Godlike Savior to his minions, they won’t care until they’ve been taxed into living out on the streets.
infidel4life on June 28, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Which states allow voter recalls? Partial answer from Slate.com:
petefrt on June 28, 2009 at 5:02 PM
Instead of playing offense in the second half, they came out with the prevent defense.
Johan Klaus on June 28, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Oh joy, joooo-hater Jeremiah Wright has joined the party.
infidel4life on June 28, 2009 at 5:05 PM
“Invalid Parameter”
First time I ever got that.
lowandslow on June 28, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Keep trying and click it several times. It will work.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 3:09 PM
I thought L n’ S was referring to the Obama Administration.
jack herman on June 28, 2009 at 5:06 PM
http://www.bayoubuzz.com/News/Louisiana/Politics/Louisiana_Congressman_Cao_Faces_Recall_Petition_Over_Stimulus_Vote__8406.asp
Here’s an interesting tidbit on a recall petition for Congressman Cao of LA. for the stimulus vote.
katy on June 28, 2009 at 5:07 PM
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