Wow: Obama kinda sorta backs Mousavi

posted at 2:10 pm on June 26, 2009 by Allahpundit

Easily the most significant statement on Iran yet made by The One but headed straight for news oblivion thanks to the media’s round-the-clock navel-gazing over Jacko. As of a week ago, Obama was stupidly insisting there’s no difference between Mousavi and Ahmadinejad. Watch this and see what he has to say now. If, as the left is forever reminding us, the great danger in O speaking up for the revolution is having the regime twist his words to paint them as American stooges, how to explain his Hopenchange benediction for Mousavi here? I guess he figured that with the movement suddenly flagging and Khamenei blaming America anyway, he might as well extend his middle finger the whole way and give the kids in Tehran a morale boost. Or maybe he’s finally realizing that nothing he says (or, rather, doesn’t say) is going to make the mullahs more willing to negotiate. His best bet to get them to bend is to empower the movement however he can and try to isolate the regime from the outside. If things get tense enough inside the country, there’s at least a chance they’ll react by seeking a grand bargain with the west to placate the protesters — just like there’s a chance they’ll go full-bore nuts for nukes and start building bombs immediately. How lucky do you feel?

Exit question: When he talks about the regime having moved “outside of international norms,” does that mean negotiations are now (momentarily) off the table?

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Arrogance.

artist on June 26, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Meddling Western power…

KDB on June 26, 2009 at 2:13 PM

So much for Thomas Barnett’s insightful analysis.

RedRedRice on June 26, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Dickhead.

zeebeach on June 26, 2009 at 2:14 PM

does that mean negotiations are now (momentarily) off the table?

I highly doubt it….but one can only hope….

cmsinaz on June 26, 2009 at 2:15 PM

regime having moved “outside of international norms,”

Not really. This is the norm for China, Cuba, Vietnam, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Venezuela and a host of other s*itholes probably equalling about half the world’s population.

So maybe Obooba’s just counting noses and deciding not to rock the world’s boat too much.

Akzed on June 26, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Sorry, AP.

zeebeach on June 26, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Don’t worry. He’ll flip soon enough.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 26, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Meddling Western power…

KDB on June 26, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Khameni: “And I could have gotten away with it, too, if it weren’t for you meddling western powers.”

Daggett on June 26, 2009 at 2:15 PM

For the first time in my life, I will watch all of MSNBC-primetime.

It will be QUITE a show to see Chris Matthews, who last week praised Obama saying nothing and said GOP calls to back a candidate was like pressing the “idiot button”, now attempt to declare backing a candidate as “genius”

“We have always been at war with Eastasia”

“Two legs good! four legs bad!”

battleoflepanto1571 on June 26, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Is it to much to ask for consistency in presidential statements from day to day?

Guess so…

cs89 on June 26, 2009 at 2:16 PM

He’s a weather vane with a finger…

Skywise on June 26, 2009 at 2:16 PM

I guess he figured that with the movement suddenly flagging and Khamenei blaming America anyway, he might as well extend his middle finger the whole way and give the kids in Tehran a morale boost.

That’d be his forefinger. It’s been up his nose, for quite some time.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 26, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Looks like the most brilliant man who ever existed is only about three weeks behind the power curve.

What next, is Bambi going to back Chiang Kai Shek?

NoDonkey on June 26, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Ogabe: “July 4th hot dogs are off the table and if you don’t start acting within the boundaries of international norms, I’m afraid Thanksgiving turkey will also soon also be off..”

Caper29 on June 26, 2009 at 2:17 PM

What next, is Bambi going to back Chiang Kai Shek?

NoDonkey on June 26, 2009 at 2:17 PM

Mr. Utopia has absolutely no idea who he was. Absolutely no idea.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 26, 2009 at 2:18 PM

that’s all eye wash, merkel put him up to it. it’s his way of kissing and makeing up…….

SHARPTOOTH on June 26, 2009 at 2:19 PM

“I don’t take Mr. Ahmadinejad’s statements seriously about apologies.”

So … now The Precedent doesn’t take seriously the statements of a guy he was dying to sit at a negotiating table with?

When will this idiocy be put to an end? (Far too late to save us, I’m sad to say)

progressoverpeace on June 26, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Since he always ends up following McCain’s lead on these international issues, maybe he should give him a call before hand.

jacrews on June 26, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Obviously Obama is still upset about nobody wanting to come to the weenie roast.

portlandon on June 26, 2009 at 2:22 PM

In place of the July 4 wiener fest, Obomba will have a special Hug-a-Thug celebration for the mullets.

pedestrian on June 26, 2009 at 2:23 PM

The big O always speaks with a “Forked Tongue”.

hillbilly on June 26, 2009 at 2:23 PM

there’s no difference between the two. Mousavi is a child of the revolution and a well known Jewish hater

equality on June 26, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Obama is a good follower.

Cool.

So why did my idiot neighbors elect him again?

jeff_from_mpls on June 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Obama just found out that Mousavi was involved in the 1983 bombing of US troops and thought, “this is a man I can support.”

lorien1973 on June 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM

So fresh and articulate

LimeyGeek on June 26, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Well, first of all, what I said originally is not what I’m saying now, so let me try to nuance my way out of this with some gobbledygook. — Barry

Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Exit question: When he talks about the regime having moved “outside of international norms,” does that mean negotiations are now (momentarily) off the table?

He might need a Gallup poll to make up his mind about that. But I think this comment is a direct result of the voices of outrage that have pushed him to condemn the mullahs murdering their own people.

Does this mean that as far as Obama is concerned the regime was “inside of international norms” before this uprising? If so, that raises the question of just what international norms he’s referring to … the “West” or the other side of the globe? If he means the West, well Iran was never inside in the first place. To me his statement reveals his naivety about the nature and ambition of Iran in the first place. He must truly believe the last 30 years have been completely the fault of American policy and not Iran’s exportation of terrorists, as such, he believes that American policy created terrorism.

Texas Gal on June 26, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Great things from the Merkel & Urkel Press Conference!

jeff_from_mpls on June 26, 2009 at 2:25 PM

friggin sissy

redrock on June 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM

this guy is as tongue tied and rhetorically clueless off the cuff as the left habitually claimed Bush to be.

Uh…I…er…uh…Hope leads to change….and…that…uh…peaceful protestors…uh…er…uh as I said before…um…share…a…um….share the belief…..uh..unacceptable…er…call on…um…uh…what was the question again.

Mike D. on June 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Mr. Utopia has absolutely no idea who he was. Absolutely no idea.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 26, 2009 at 2:18 PM

I am not sure that our Cocktail Weenie in Chief would not identify him as the main opposition to Supreme Leader Chairman Mao.

I mean, he’s probably going to go kowtow to the Chinese at some point, so Bammy will likely be apologizing for our ruining the Great Leap Forward, etc.

NoDonkey on June 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM

maybe if he just starts to sing he will get his most awesome words out a bit sooner.

just sing it barry!!!!

poppieseeds on June 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Still, I guarantee you that within the next week President Obama will say these exact words:

“Let me be clear, I have always… ” and then some variation of “stood behind the abstract principle of justice” and then back to the boilerplate… “I have not changed my position.”

Any my stupid neighbors put this guy in the White House.

jeff_from_mpls on June 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Someone is going to have left over potato salad on July 5th…

right2bright on June 26, 2009 at 2:29 PM

Exit question: When he talks about the regime having moved “outside of international norms,” does that mean negotiations are now (momentarily) off the table?

It depends on how long the wind is making the arc of the moral universe, and which way it’s bending.

Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 2:29 PM

Focus-group testing takes time, man.

JohnJ on June 26, 2009 at 2:30 PM

Texas Gal on June 26, 2009 at 2:25 PM

yes, this will be the topic of his next apology tour..

SHARPTOOTH on June 26, 2009 at 2:30 PM

He’s about 10-12 days too late. That’s what happens to ‘leaders’ who wait to see which way the polling winds are blowing rather than acting based on principles.

ProfessorMiao on June 26, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Two words:

Expiration Date

VekTor on June 26, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Exit question: When he talks about the regime having moved “outside of international norms,” does that mean negotiations are now (momentarily) off the table?

It doesn’t mean anything, other than the usual Precedential intent – ‘The US and the West should die painful deaths.’

progressoverpeace on June 26, 2009 at 2:31 PM

So does this mean he abandons the ridiculous assertion that his speech interfered with Iran’s mullahcracy?

JohnJ on June 26, 2009 at 2:31 PM

I am not sure that our Cocktail Weenie in Chief would not identify him as the main opposition to Supreme Leader Chairman Mao.

I mean, he’s probably going to go kowtow to the Chinese at some point, so Bammy will likely be apologizing for our ruining the Great Leap Forward, etc.

NoDonkey on June 26, 2009 at 2:28 PM

ND … this is the historical imbecile who thought his Great Uncle helped liberate Auschwitz. He’s nothing but a “Community Organizer.” The “Great Leap Forward” would recall his days of hopscotch. Ah, youth.

OhEssYouCowboys on June 26, 2009 at 2:32 PM

So does this mean he abandons the ridiculous assertion that his speech interfered with Iran’s mullahcracy?

JohnJ on June 26, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Perhaps, but we’ll have to wait to see what half-assed, half-baked, asine pronouncement comes out of the TOTUS next.

Good thing we all know he’s brilliant. Otherwise, we’d all think our country is led by a complete idiot.

NoDonkey on June 26, 2009 at 2:33 PM

Arrogance.

artist on June 26, 2009 at 2:13 PM

Ignorance, political agenda, lack of care for freedom, and really, really bad timing, especially for a ‘Jesus’.

Schadenfreude on June 26, 2009 at 2:34 PM

they attacked him personally, this isn’t a surprise.

rob verdi on June 26, 2009 at 2:34 PM

The left was soooooo right here. I mean, Obama made the correct decision by not coming out and condemning the crackdown… until unknown numbers of innocent people were killed and the movement is starting to fizzle out. Just like it was right to say “it’s up to the Iranians”, when asked if they’d be coming to 4th of July celebrations. Then rescinding the invitations a day later. Obviously I’m being sarcastic about him being right… but this is clearly what his supporters must think.

RightWinged on June 26, 2009 at 2:35 PM

His dreams of negotiations are so gummed up by all the bloodied and butchered Iranian protesters, that even the clueless appeaser Obama knows he might just as well endorse Pinnochio.

marybel on June 26, 2009 at 2:36 PM

I think Obama should not have mentioned Moussavi at all. Instead, it would have been better if he have said what he should have said from the beginning: The US supports the rights of the Iranian people to free and fair elections, justice, and freedom of assembly and speech. The US condemns any violence from the Iranian government against its unarmed civilians that are protesting their government.

Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 2:40 PM

there’s no difference between the two. Mousavi is a child of the revolution and a well known Jewish hater

equality on June 26, 2009 at 2:23 PM

There is a difference, albeit small. Mousavi has promised to return control of Iranian television to private companies rather than it being all state-run. He also (ironically) proposed measures to make voting safer, more closely protected against fraud, and more impacting on policy affecting Iranian citizens.

MadisonConservative on June 26, 2009 at 2:41 PM

A man of principle doesn’t need weeks to figure out the right thing to do.

Thunderstorm129 on June 26, 2009 at 2:42 PM

they attacked him personally, this isn’t a surprise.

rob verdi on June 26, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Love it. And true.

LibTired on June 26, 2009 at 2:43 PM

I guess he figured that with the movement suddenly flagging and Khamenei blaming America anyway, he might as well extend his middle finger the whole way and give the kids in Tehran a morale boost.

That’s not Obama’s style. He’s more of a finger scratching, “lipstick on a pig” remark-making pussy.

alliebobbitt on June 26, 2009 at 2:45 PM

Of course, Obama had to wait for McCain to condemn Russia’s aggression before finding it safe to do the same himself.

JohnJ on June 26, 2009 at 2:46 PM

“We’ll just have to see how this whole thing plays out”
President Obama

HarryStar on June 26, 2009 at 2:46 PM

Khameni: “And I could have gotten away with it, too, if it weren’t for you meddling western powers.”

Daggett on June 26, 2009 at 2:15 PM

Nice Scooby Doo reference. On topic: I think it is because Dinnerjacket has been making him look like a smuck and his big inflated ego can’t take it.

TXMomof3 on June 26, 2009 at 2:48 PM

He sounds like a child explaining why he didn’t do his assignment with the “dog ate my homework.”:

I thought he was the same as Ahmadinejab, but I watched TV and he seems like an OK guy, so now I support him…

Do you really think we are that stupid? Just admit you’re upset that the other dude badmouthed you and made you look like a fool.

Someone, please, give POTUS a nice cup of STFU.

Michelle Dubois on June 26, 2009 at 2:48 PM

Obama thought he could earn some good favor from the mullahs in exchange for voting “present”. They blamed him anyway. In response, he comes out, at least in the most tepid of ways, speaking in favor of Mousavi. Sadly, the uprising is losing its energy.

If he had been timely in his stance, real change could have come. As it stands now, the mullahs get everything they wanted: toothless American meddlers they can blame and a stymied uprising.

All because Precedent Obama couldn’t make a principled stand for freedom. Political calculations do not equal core principles, Mr. President.

Matticus Finch on June 26, 2009 at 2:48 PM

Doing what the wingnuts have been saying he should do is suddenly the right course of action beause he’s doing it. But the wingnuts are still wrong for saying it.

/lib

Jim Treacher on June 26, 2009 at 2:48 PM

MadisonConservative on June 26, 2009 at 2:41 PM

Given his past history, can Mousavi be trusted to keep any promise? Or, if he were to become president, would he do everything he could to expand his personal power and hold office for life, regardless off the impact on the Iranian people?

Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 2:48 PM

I’m sorry, I apoligize….

I didn’t see President Obama’s spine standing to the right of him at the podium.

HarryStar on June 26, 2009 at 2:48 PM

Thomas Barnette believes strongly in the AGW hypothesis and, I suspect, he supports Waxman-Markey, though I don’t know.

The fact that he is wicked smart, yet can be so wrong, just makes me shake my head.

His most recent statement in Esquire, again, leaves me shaking my head.

There are two reasons for this: One, he discounts the religious imperitive of Muslims generally and Muslims in Iran specifically.

Two, I believe that Barnette has not really bothered to inform himself about AGW. He follows the popular wisdom.
I hope that some one encourages him to watch Bob Carter’s Youtube presentation. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI)

thgrant on June 26, 2009 at 2:48 PM

Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Wait around, he might say just that tomorrow.

Or something completely different.

Who really knows what’s going to come out of his mouth next?

NoDonkey on June 26, 2009 at 2:49 PM

He’s right
This is expected, Obama’s coverup and (subtle rhetorical) payback for Supreme Leader’s revealing the letter. Obama offerred the defacto power a secret advance deal. Instead the prancer got slapped in the face. He’s right, they are different, Mouseawi is better at keeping his mouth shut.

Reality Check on June 26, 2009 at 2:50 PM

This is all wrong. He should be supporting democracy in Iran. Not Ahmadinejad. Not Moussavi. He should not even be mentioning their names. Both are madmen.

It’s not hard. All he has to do is read verbatim what McCain said: “We don’t take the side of either candidate. There seems to be some confusion about that. We take the side of the Iranian people to have human rights, to have the freedom that we deem universal.”

DarkKnight3565 on June 26, 2009 at 2:51 PM

Who really knows what’s going to come out of his mouth next?

NoDonkey on June 26, 2009 at 2:49 PM

TOTUS only knows.

Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 2:51 PM

Given his past history, can Mousavi be trusted to keep any promise? Or, if he were to become president, would he do everything he could to expand his personal power and hold office for life, regardless off the impact on the Iranian people?

Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 2:48 PM

We don’t know.

We do know that Dinner Jacket, on the other hand, is guaranteed bad news. Mousavi can’t be much worse.

MadisonConservative on June 26, 2009 at 2:52 PM

DarkKnight3565 on June 26, 2009 at 2:51 PM

Too bad McCain couldn’t find the will to fight back in the campaign. He kept taking all of our ammo off the table and trying to take the high road. In the future screw the high road, protect the American people.

TXMomof3 on June 26, 2009 at 2:52 PM

Mousavi can’t be much worse.

MadisonConservative on June 26, 2009 at 2:52 PM

Much agreed.

Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 2:55 PM

How dare Obama foist Western ideals of what truly are “international norms”. We should avoid trying to imprint our definitions of international norms on places like Saudi Arabia, Venezuela, China, Albania, Somalia, and Iran. I mean Booosh arrogantly attempted this in his failed act of aggression on Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama must stop following the failed policies of Bushitler.

/sarc

cyclown on June 26, 2009 at 2:55 PM

I guess he figured that with the movement suddenly flagging and Khamenei blaming America anyway, he might as well extend his middle finger the whole way and give the kids in Tehran a morale boost. Or maybe he’s finally realizing that nothing he says (or, rather, doesn’t say) is going to make the mullahs more willing to negotiate

Or maybe the polls said Americans think he should say more. He stuck his finger up and the wind just happened to be blowing in that direction.

Greed on June 26, 2009 at 2:58 PM

DarkKnight3565 on June 26, 2009 at 2:51 PM

Too bad McCain couldn’t find the will to fight back in the campaign. He kept taking all of our ammo off the table and trying to take the high road. In the future screw the high road, protect the American people.

TXMomof3 on June 26, 2009 at 2:52 PM

No attacks on McCain, please. I still believe he’s the best of the Republican Party and did as well in 2008 as any Republican could have done.

DarkKnight3565 on June 26, 2009 at 2:59 PM

WOW….Empty Suit indeed. It’s amazing when he’s off prompter how dumb he sounds…

Dritanian on June 26, 2009 at 3:01 PM

No attacks on McCain, please.

Why not? He’s one of the most liberal Republicans in congress.

I still believe he’s the best of the Republican Party and did as well in 2008 as any Republican could have done.

DarkKnight3565 on June 26, 2009 at 2:59 PM

Then you’re utterly out of your mind.

MadisonConservative on June 26, 2009 at 3:02 PM

No apologies for Ahma-whatever-his-name-is? Well, no wonder. Barry’s flat out. He used the last twenty on his last trip abroad.

(Funny how much easier it is to apologize for someone else than for oneself.)

MaxMBJ on June 26, 2009 at 3:03 PM

It’s amazing when he’s off prompter how dumb he sounds…

Dritanian on June 26, 2009 at 3:01 PM

Affirmative Action’s finest

LimeyGeek on June 26, 2009 at 3:03 PM

MadisonConservative on June 26, 2009 at 3:02 PM

I’m with you.

TXMomof3 on June 26, 2009 at 3:10 PM

I was not attacking McCain. I was just stating the facts. If he had wanted the job bad enough, he would have fought for it. Nothing should have been held back that would have opened some dope’s eyes about who and what Obama truly is. I really honestly feel like we as a nation need protection from his idiotic policies. He has shown weakness in every way possible and he is as dishonest as they come.

TXMomof3 on June 26, 2009 at 3:14 PM

No attacks on McCain, please. I still believe he’s the best of the Republican Party and did as well in 2008 as any Republican could have done.

DarkKnight3565 on June 26, 2009 at 2:59 PM

I respect Senator McCain for his military service. He gave a good speech about Neda this week. But, he too often infuriates a huge percentage of the Republican base with uncompromising policy views that are not at all conservative or even moderate at times, and he ran a terrible presidential campaign.

Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 3:21 PM

I was not attacking McCain. I was just stating the facts. If he had wanted the job bad enough, he would have fought for it.

Agree, but I don’t think it would have made a bit of difference.

A Democrat President was pretty much inevitable and if you think he was a weak candidate, then just be glad that’s the last you’ll see of him.

Bammy won’t be a cipher candidate in 2012, he’ll be exposed in all his glorious corruption, extremism and incompetence.

NoDonkey on June 26, 2009 at 3:23 PM

Why not? He’s one of the most liberal Republicans in congress.
MadisonConservative on June 26, 2009 at 3:02 PM

82.6%

daesleeper on June 26, 2009 at 3:29 PM

No attacks on McCain, please. I still believe he’s the best of the Republican Party and did as well in 2008 as any Republican could have done.

DarkKnight3565 on June 26, 2009 at 2:59 PM

Uh no. He lost the race the day he suspended his campaign to vote YAY! rather than Nay on the Banksta Bailout.

Rae on June 26, 2009 at 3:31 PM

The only thing that moves him is his own sense of offense. He prostrates himself for fools and then is surprised when they walk all over him.

He never condemned Wright until Wright dissed him at the Press Club; he never condemned Iran until DinnerJacket dissed him on the global stage.

It’s all me, me, me.

PattyJ on June 26, 2009 at 3:39 PM

82.6%

daesleeper on June 26, 2009 at 3:29 PM

I’m sick of this percentage canard. It’s not about quantity of votes. It’s about the big ones he pushes, like shamnesty, campaign finance reform which infringes on the first amendment, and vetoing the Bush tax cuts. He drinks the global warming kool-aid like a champ, too.

MadisonConservative on June 26, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Obama was stupidly insisting there’s no difference between Mousavi and Ahmadinejad.

Not stupid if it’s true.

But oh right, when this is pointed out you greeniacs quickly respond that it’ not about Mousavi!!!111! Maybe to not you, but it kinda is for those actually protesting, sorry.

jjraines on June 26, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Well, I’ll say this in reference to McCain – I remember watching a post-fight interview with Miguel Cotto who had just lost his first professional fight after winning about 30. He was being asked the usual post-fight questions losing boxers get asked, “why didn’t you do this? why didn’t you do that?”; and he responded that he thought it was funny that whenever he won a fight, reporters acted as though he didn’t do anything wrong. But as soon as he finally lost one, reporters started acting as though he didn’t do anything right.

DarkKnight3565 on June 26, 2009 at 4:12 PM

If, as the left is forever reminding us, the great danger in O speaking up for the revolution is having the regime twist his words to paint them as American stooges, how to explain his Hopenchange benediction for Mousavi here?

I’m sure Kos will be sure to tell us.

Speedwagon82 on June 26, 2009 at 4:14 PM

This is going to be a long four years…

patrick neid on June 26, 2009 at 4:26 PM

Of course He “backs” Mousavi: the man who orchestrated the killing of 275 Marines in Lebenon.

Friendly21 on June 26, 2009 at 4:34 PM

The Urkel and Merkel Show– coming soon to an airport lounge near you!

“As I have always said…”

—rimshot—

hillbillyjim on June 26, 2009 at 6:39 PM

This is going to be a long four years…

patrick neid on June 26, 2009 at 4:26 PM

At this rate, I’m beginning to wonder if anyone can last another four years. Remember, we still have the Nork July 4 celebration to look forward to.

Pazman on June 26, 2009 at 10:14 PM

Senator McCain… too often infuriates a huge percentage of the Republican base with uncompromising policy views that are not at all conservative or even moderate at times, and he ran a terrible presidential campaign.

Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 3:21 PM

If the NRC is now completely gutless, where do we sign up for a new, third party?

The Independent party always seemed to me to be a little too goofy.

So let’s have a Party. How about the New American Party. Nobody could argue with the name. The platform: conservative, common sense.

If it was done right, I think it could attract some of the remaining Republican conservatives in the House and Senate (there must be at least two or three?).

Anybody want in?

Pazman on June 26, 2009 at 10:26 PM