Comments on: Video: Ezra Klein in 2008 on “sneaky” stalking horse of a public plan

By: Herb

Herb — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:49:32 +0000

I’ve been a Community Organizer, know Community Organizers and Single Payer is the most talked about plan. It will not only be public, it will be the only plan. It will include rationing of benefits for old fogies like myself but will allow for a pill to end my suffering as he PLAINLY stated in his infomercial. But nobody is listening, but every body grows old if they are lucky.

By: Cindy Munford

Cindy Munford — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:34:44 +0000

DrSteve on June 26, 2009 at 7:52 PM

Anne can be reasonable on a lot of issues but not this one. I have to assume this is something that hits very close to home for her.

By: Jim Treacher

Jim Treacher — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 04:18:04 +0000

As Morgen Richmond does, I like Ezra Klein. He’s unmistakably and unapologetically liberal, but he’s honest

This has not been my experience.

By: Dr. ZhivBlago

Dr. ZhivBlago — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:56:32 +0000

I don’t believe in most health insurance, either. Every household in a health care system should pay a monthly fee to that health care system directly rather along the lines of paying utilities, but a constant fee.

Why we pay into city and county stuff like fire, police, roads, schools, etc. but not into our local hospitals is beyond me.

Doesn’t matter though. If it’s not about health system monopolies and lawyers, it comes down to politicians.

Screwed either way.

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By: NoLeftTurn

NoLeftTurn — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:19:54 +0000

Further, what most pols overlook is that the existing public market (Medicare, Medicaid) relies on the private insurance market to essentially subsidize the loss they take on government care. Reimbursements are typically below market, forcing the insurers to make up the difference in the private market.

redfoxbluestate on June 26, 2009 at 4:47 PM

And that’s really what it all boils down to. When the government subsidizes something, be it healthcare or education or housing, the cost goes up — FOR EVERYONE! When government gets out of the way and lets the free market do its thing, the cost (theoretically, b/c once govt. gets involved it’s forever) comes down.

This thing will be a disaster of epic proportions. Those of us with personal experience with Medicare, Medicaid, and VA have had but a taste of the advancing nightmare of govt.-sponsored healthcare.

By: DrSteve

DrSteve — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:52:36 +0000

AnninCA on June 26, 2009 at 7:37 PM

Ann, you’ve proven time and again you don’t know what you’re talking about, so you might as well limit your comments to things that are obviously just your opinion.

Does it bother you at all that you’re being manipulated and lied to?

By: AnninCA

AnninCA — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:37:49 +0000

Even if it’s the 50 MILLION uninsured figure put forth by the liars, Why fundamentally change the system for 85% of the people because 15% are underinsured????????????????? It’s nonsense. It’s a scam! Who doesn’t see this? Man, 2010 is gonna be a bloodbath at the polls. The libs have overstepped by a factor of 10.

Most people are vastly underinsured.

By: marklmail

marklmail — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:08:56 +0000

Even if it’s the 50 MILLION uninsured figure put forth by the liars, Why fundamentally change the system for 85% of the people because 15% are underinsured????????????????? It’s nonsense. It’s a scam! Who doesn’t see this? Man, 2010 is gonna be a bloodbath at the polls. The libs have overstepped by a factor of 10.

By: keep the change

keep the change — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:03:21 +0000

Ezra Klein, Naomi Klein (no relation) what is it with these Klein people?

By: AnninCA

AnninCA — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:02:17 +0000

The problem the GOP has with their own argument is obvious, and O actually said it. So you want more medical expenses because it’s good for the country?

Say what?

By: keep the change

keep the change — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:59:13 +0000

Read this post by this same douche. Foul language and all.

By: percysunshine

percysunshine — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:58:03 +0000

Ed 1
Ezra 0

Next round!

By: patrick neid

patrick neid — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:15:33 +0000

We can jump up and down all we want, waving all the stats that clearly show why health care and cap and trade are terrible legislation but it will be to no avail.

Even the folks that like their health care still voted for Obama. There are no innocents. Left or right we all knew what the Dems plans were. They swept the elections and now these things are probably all going to pass with more coming. Open borders/amnesty, pro Islamic agreements, warm relations with revolutionary Marxists, reparations, activists judges taking over the Supreme court for beginners. These are just a few of the many, all of which will be passed in the first four years. Even if he loses in 2012 the damage will be generational.

When someone says the “bridge to nowhere” didn’t really cost anything straighten them out.

By: TinMan13

TinMan13 — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:57:36 +0000

In a former life I did business as a general contractor with the city I live in. A couple of years after I quit doing that, the city passed a law that said they would only do business with companies that provided health care/insurance for each and every one of their workers, whether that worker worked on the contract or not. No business that didn’t provide health insurance could do any business with the city.
Do you think that meant that small, minority owned, independent businesses could do work for the city and make a profit? Did the cost for any work done by contract go down?
Nope. Single payer will turn out like the TSA – take off your shoes.

By: Americannodash

Americannodash — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:48:21 +0000

vibrio = fermentative
cocci = pieces
*statement

By: GarandFan

GarandFan — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:47:02 +0000

The government “elites” know what is best for the commoner. I can hardly wait to see what sort of medical plan Congress will reserve for itself.

By: Cindy Munford

Cindy Munford — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:44:26 +0000

Although I realize you can never be sure with callers to a radio show, a gentleman saying he was an doctor from Canada that moved to the U.S. called Rush’s show today. He said that originally the Canadian plan started off as a government plan along side of a private plan but when the government plan ran out of money they just co-opted the private plan. I wish someone who knows the history of Canada’s system would verify whether this is true or not.

By: Americannodash

Americannodash — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:28:16 +0000

They cannot get away with passing bad legislation into law.
izoneguy on June 26, 2009 at 5:06 PM
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Seriously?
What about every bad piece of legislation that has been passed just since the first of the year?

VibrioCocci on June 26, 2009 at 5:11 PM
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Next time you cut & paste something do it right. His follow on staement answers your question.

By: izoneguy

izoneguy — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:24:55 +0000

They cannot get away with passing bad legislation into law.
izoneguy on June 26, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Seriously?
What about every bad piece of legislation that has been passed just since the first of the year?

VibrioCocci on June 26, 2009 at 5:11 PM

They will own the results…Obama is snake-oil salesman and tricked the public into a false sense of security. Now some democrats are starting to realize they have been fed hogwash as well. The public is waking up and now is the time to stop what is going on or the government will own much more of your life then you can imagine. – Even if you did vote for Obama.

By: VibrioCocci

VibrioCocci — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:11:25 +0000

They cannot get away with passing bad legislation into law.
izoneguy on June 26, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Seriously?
What about every bad piece of legislation that has been passed just since the first of the year?

By: progressoverpeace

progressoverpeace — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:11:16 +0000

Add this attempt to lie to the people, in order to destroy the private sector and further empower the federal government to control the lives of the citizenry, to the already long list of high crimes and misdemeanors that The Precedent has committed while in office. Sentencing and execution of sentence cannot happen soon enough.

By: izoneguy

izoneguy — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:06:34 +0000

So where is the GOP on fighting this?

El_Terrible on June 26, 2009 at 4:18 PM

Fighting hard to prop up their political careers. With goodies for their constituents. And themselves.

spmat on June 26, 2009 at 4:59 PM

The goodies will be the poison that kills in the end.
You cannot live your life by sucking the life out of other people.
The liberal house of cards is on the verge of collapse.
They cannot get away with passing bad legislation into law.
If we let them get away with it then all of America will collapse.