Video: Boehner slaps down Waxman, filibusters cap and trade; Update: Bill passes, 219-212; eight GOPers are the difference; Update: GOP defectors named; Update: One defector considering Senate run
posted at 6:53 pm on June 26, 2009 by Allahpundit
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Yeah, I know: Technically there’s no filibuster in the House, but the majority and minority leaders are typically given great latitude in terms of how long they can speak. Enter Waxman, the genius behind the 300-page amendment no one’s read, wanting to know just how great that latitude is. High drama as the answer comes from Democrat Ellen Tauscher, presiding over the session.
How long can Boehner keep talking tonight? Stay tuned. Click the image to watch.
Update: The filibuster’s over and the final 15-minute vote is in progress. With nine minutes left, it’s 193-183.
Update: 219-212, with eight Republicans — the difference between passage and defeat — defecting to vote yes. The boss is already hunting around for their names. I hope they got a sweet deal from Pelosi because talk radio is about to make their lives very, very difficult.
Update: Inhofe predicts cap and trade will die in the Senate, which is probably true. I wonder if that made the bitter pill easier to swallow for those eight Republicans.
Update: The boss has the names:
Bono Mack
Castle
Kirk
Lance
LoBiondo
McHugh
Reichert
Smith (NJ)
Update: An epitaph from Vodkapundit: “Never have so few stolen so much from so many to achieve so little.”
Update: If you’re looking for a lightning rod among the elite eight, Mark Kirk is probably the one. He’s considering running for Obama’s old Senate seat next year. Memo to Kirk: Reconsider.
Update: A good point from Goldfarb while we’re busy obsessing over the eight GOP turncoats: What about the 50 Democrats who voted no? They’ve earned the ire of liberals needlessly, given that the bill’s destined for likely death in the Senate.
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oh and since I doubt you will be able to read the entire speech, Terrye…this is how it ends…
although I wouldn’t bet about them ‘not doing it again’
right4life on June 26, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Cap & Trade Action Alert!
NATIONWIDE TEA PARTIES SATURDAY JUNE 27 AT NOON AT FEDERAL COURTHOUSES
Here is the link for more information:
http://www.teapartypatriots.org/
wren on June 26, 2009 at 11:56 PM
And the whole thing about flushing is just odd.
Terrye on June 26, 2009 at 10:58 PM
He is talking about the water conserving toilets they only use a gallon of water and I can assure you they don`t flush worth a damn. Also cost more.
LSUMama on June 26, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Eh. Mark Kirk wasn’t going to win anyway. Lisa Madigan polls ahead of him and she is more than likely going to run for the Senate. That seat is just a lost cause for Republicans.
NathanG on June 27, 2009 at 12:04 AM
I called Lance’s office this afternoon before the vote and sent a disgusted email tonight.
I won’t forget this.
Elisa on June 27, 2009 at 12:04 AM
She claims to be against it and yet she says this.
That is a misrepresentation. It is WELL MORE than a tax Bill. It is a business regulation bill with far reaching consequences.
And AnninCA says she voted for McCain too. And if you believe that, when Palin is against late term abortion, then I have a bridge to sell you.
I was witness to AnninCA’s trolling the PUMA site “No Quarter”. If she was indeed a PUMA, who voted for McCain as she claims, then why did she annoy so many people over there? They had to chase her away.
Geochelone on June 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Just like those stupid CFL light bulbs. Let’s put millions of fragile glass objects in every home in the world that are filled with one of the most toxic substances known to man. What could possibly go wrong???
give it about 5 generations or so and the question won’t be “Did she have a boy or girl” but “How many heads did it have??”
bullseye on June 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM
oh wow, another threat!! y’all REAL tough on the internet…yeah…I’m real SKURRED…right..you pencil-neck geeks are too funny….you know I could always tell the bigmouths from the real lifters…the real lifters were quiet…and let their lifting do the talking…and bigmouths, like you…were all talk..and when it came to liftin the weight, talk is cheap….
pleaes you were a mccain enthusiast!! oh yeah…when he was nothing more than the LOTE…die a bit slower…nice…
right4life on June 26, 2009 at 11:44 PM
Dude your gonna get an ulcer if your not careful.How are you gonna fight the good fight from the hospital? And I have to add i don`t know anyone who would have picked John McCain but he was the lesser of evils and I still believe thats true. Palin would make a much better Pres and i hope she gets the chance.
LSUMama on June 27, 2009 at 12:06 AM
what makes you think the bill is dead in the senate?
the
republicansEVERYONE who voted for this bill must be crushedeveryone should show up at their office, call and email them and let them know that we’re aware of their vote.
val647 on June 26, 2009 at 8:54 PM
izoneguy on June 27, 2009 at 12:14 AM
Eh. Mark Kirk wasn’t going to win anyway. Lisa Madigan polls ahead of him and she is more than likely going to run for the Senate. That seat is just a lost cause for Republicans.
NathanG on June 27, 2009 at 12:04 AM
If he believes he won’t make it for the Senate seat, watch out because he’s also mentioned running for governor.
Hobbes on June 27, 2009 at 12:14 AM
I was mocking him/her….this thread has been funny as hell…all these people accusing me of being threatening…and then turn around and threaten me…its laughable…
and yes Palin was the main reason I voted for mccain…and given the campaing to destroy her, the left fears her greatly…
right4life on June 27, 2009 at 12:17 AM
LOL-Well she needs to hurry up and get them. :-)
-Dave
Dave R. on June 27, 2009 at 12:18 AM
I don’t live in Dave Reichert’s district, but he solicits me for money. I’m going to call and tell his staff to take me off his list. He will not get a dime from me.
capitalist piglet on June 27, 2009 at 12:19 AM
I just got this from the Tea Party Patriots and am passing it on:
Dear Tea Party Patriots,
Sometimes the call to duty comes in the middle of the night. This is one of those times. And we apologize for the short notice, but you’ve spoken loud and clear, and demanded action.
Since sending the email asking you what you wanted to do about passage of the Cap and Trade bill approximately 3 hours ago, I have received thousands of responses. All are demanding action, and all are outraged that the House of Representatives passed the Cap and Trade bill, which will cost each family almost $2,000 per year in additional expenses through increased energy prices across all sectors. Patriots across the nation are telling us it’s time to take to the streets. We are in full support of your clearly expressed opinion and are here to assist.
To paraphrase one gentleman in the East on a conference call tonight, we need to lean out of every window and scream that we’re mad as hell and not going to take it anymore! And we need to scream until everyone is screaming with us.
THIS BILL PUNISHES EVERY AMERICAN FAMILY.
Today you were scammed by the House of Representatives, and despite the fact that you shut down the phones of virtually every member of the House, and barraged them with millions of emails telling them this was against your will, they ignored you and voted for another bill which they haven’t even read. The madness needs to stop and we need to stop the Senate from passing the bill.
Tomorrow, because you have demanded it…we take to the streets.
Take to the Streets to Protest the Cap and Trade Passage in the House
Date: June 27, 2009
Time: Noon until – as long as it takes.
Place: State Capitol; or Federal Building in your City, County or Parish
LIST YOUR EVENT AT http://WWW.TEAPARTYPATRIOTS.ORG
Please go to http://www.teapartypatriots.org and list your event. Please try to coordinate with others you see posting events there. If there is already an event in your area, please plant to attend that event, and / or volunteer to help that organizer. This is about coordination, not competition. We need to send a message to the politicians.
Bring signs, bullhorns, and your usual good behavior. It’s imperative that we shock the politicians and press by being there in large numbers, but we want to make sure that we maintain our reputation by not causing any damage or destruction.
We wrote and asked what you are willing to do about it…and you answered, by the thousands…you said you wanted to take it to the streets. Now it’s time for you to spread the message. The time is short, but we can make it happen.
We believe that the Senate will bring the Cap and Traitor bill to the floor on the sixth or seventh of July. We need to send a forceful message to the Senators that we will not tolerate passage of the ACES act in the Senate.
You are the patriot heroes of a true grass roots movement. We asked, and you told us loud and clear what you wanted to do. You told us it’s time to light a grass fire and hit the streets tomorrow?
We apologize for the late notice. Your patriotism in standing up to your government is appreciated, and serves as a powerful testament to the founders of this great nation.
Thanks,
Mark Meckler, Amy Kremer and Jenny Beth Martin
Tea Party Patriots National Coordinator Team
Amy Kremer (amykremer@gmail.com; amykremer on gchat, 678.495.8271)
Jenny Beth Martin (jennybethm@gmail.com; jennybethm on gchat, 404.326.0936)
Mark Meckler (mark@teapartypatriots.org, mark.grassroots on gchat)
Rob Neppell (rob@teapartypatriots.org)
DL13 on June 27, 2009 at 12:20 AM
Kirk!!!!
A fully expect continental drift to move the state of Illinois so that when I wake up I will see Boston out my window. There is no conservatives, let alone Republicans in this state (at least in Chicago and its collar counties).
WashJeff on June 27, 2009 at 12:22 AM
My family, my parents, my wife’s parents, my siblings and my wife’s siblings – none of us supporting Kirk. What a coward and a traitor. I hear he is planning a Governor run. Someone else is to and he’s a conservative: Dan Profit http://www.proft2010.com/ I know very little about him but he’s already doing better than Kirk in my book.
I called Kirk’s campaign office a while ago and invited him to call me back. I let him know we won’t support him for anything even if he’s the only choice.
kerrhome on June 27, 2009 at 12:22 AM
is “too” that is :)
kerrhome on June 27, 2009 at 12:23 AM
I hear you. I’m in St. Charles and when Hastert left us we now have a Democrat. At least my local community is conservative. I imagine we’ll get a Republican governor in this next election. We’ll keep working hard.
kerrhome on June 27, 2009 at 12:25 AM
Kirk has not made a decision to run for the Senate (more likely) or Governer (less likely). I do not think he can make this decisions since he has been assimulated into Washington DC. He is SCARED to run for senate, lose the race, and be removed from Washington. This vote tells me that he will run for re-election for his congressional seat. Staying in Washington is his number one goal.
WashJeff on June 27, 2009 at 12:26 AM
1000+
Upstater85 on June 27, 2009 at 12:27 AM
Frankfort, went from Weller (a GOP porker) to Halverson (D). Halverson voted against the Climate bill today, kudos for that, but I still want her gone. Did Foster vote against the bill?
WashJeff on June 27, 2009 at 12:28 AM
Kirk will probably lose as governor too. That state’s basically controlled by Chicago as far as I’m concerned. Jesse Jackson, Jr. and Mayor Daley could go on a shooting spree and they would still be re-elected.
NathanG on June 27, 2009 at 12:40 AM
I see they didn’t allow the above to get in the way.
Anyone else want to mail a bag of 30 dimes to each of these people?
So, I’ll say again: this is why Congressional elections matter. But hey, most folks wanted to bicker about who was the “least of the two evils”.
Be proud, America.
Send_Me on June 27, 2009 at 12:43 AM
This video needs to be played EVERYWHERE 24/7 so the Senators can be reminded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4&feature=player_embedded
izoneguy on June 27, 2009 at 12:51 AM
I emailed and called Dave Riechert’s office today. Pleaded that he not vote like his Lefty Microsofty opponent Darcy Burner would have. But he did. I am not represented by anyone holding office in the state of WA. No money from me. I hope dear Darcy beats him in the next election. He’s lost my vote.
illustr8r on June 27, 2009 at 1:17 AM
Kirk is having a meeting at the village hall in Wilmette tomorrow at 2PM.Its one of the wealthiest places in the country.I live an hour northwest of there,but I plan on being there to ask what Pelosi offered him to sell out his country.
pistolpetestoys on June 27, 2009 at 1:32 AM
pistolpetestoys on June 27, 2009 at 1:32 AM
I would love to know what if any answer he gives you please post . I contacted Boehner to thank him for standing up for our Country. I hope others do too we need more like him. I`m just sick about the direction we are taking.
LSUMama on June 27, 2009 at 1:43 AM
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/25a2393e-a7b5-4f55-b844-863de4799074
elduende on June 27, 2009 at 1:48 AM
If I were on the floor of congress I’d be screaming this out.
WHAT YOU HAVE JUST DONE IS TAKE A SPIKE THROUGH THE HEART OF OUR COUNTRY AND OUR ECONOMY. YOU HAVE JUST KILLED COUNTLESS JOBS! YOU HAVE JUST KILLED THOUSANDS OF INDUSTRIES. AND FOR WHAT? TO MAKE SOME HIPPIES FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL GOOD.
THIS WILL NOT REDUCE OUR PLANET’S TEMPERATURE ONE BIT. ALL IT WILL DO IS MAKE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SUFFER THROUGH TAXES, THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT DICTATING HOW MUCH ELECTRICITY THEY CAN USE.
“Oh gee sorry you’ve driven your car too much this year, SORRY THE GOVERNMENT MUST TAKE AWAY YOUR CAR KEYS YOU’LL HAVE TO WALK FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR”
“Sorry little factory you’ve emitted too much smoke and CO2 this year? SHUT DOWN THE FACTORY AND FIRE ALL WORKERS”
“You say CO2 is a pollutent. YOU EXHALE CO2!!! SO SHOULD WE BAN YOU CONGRESSMAN WAXMAN!?!?!?”
THE PASSAGE OF THIS BILL HAS JUST MADE AMERICA A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY AND YOU’VE JUST DONE CHINA A HUGE FAVOR BECAUSE THEY ARE NOW GOING TO BE THE WORLD’S BIGGEST SUPER POWER.
If I were a congressman I would announce my RESIGNATION I cannot be apart of this CORRUPT COMMUNIST REGIME OF A CONGRESS ANYMORE!
rednebulastudios on June 27, 2009 at 2:04 AM
I am so sick about this……….
…….. I want to throw up.
Forget it………..
…….. elections do have consequences. Think about that come 2010 and 2012.
Seven Percent Solution on June 27, 2009 at 3:01 AM
These congressional idiots need more than the Tea Party protests. We need to honor Guy Fawke attempt. It might get the attention of these fools.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1856603,00.html
jack herman on June 27, 2009 at 3:06 AM
I don’t see the need to honor someone that would use terrorism to “change” the religion in England.
Upstater85 on June 27, 2009 at 3:35 AM
MELT THEIR PHONES
Geochelone on June 27, 2009 at 4:24 AM
We the People are VERY, VERY angry!! We ALL know the true cost of your vote!! We ARE coming for ALL of you!! YOU WORK FOR US!! You voted for a massive 1,300 page bill that YOU NEVER READ!! You voted for the largest tax hike EVER!! You voted for the largest expansion of government EVER!! The 1,300 page bill, that you never read, puts government in control of an additional(at best), 20% of this country’s economy!! You will NOT be given another chance!! We will ALL put our last, thin, tax weakened dollars into the campaigns of YOUR opponents!! It matters NOT to us whether there is an R or a D after their name!! It matters NOT to us which part of this great country you run in, because we are ALL in the United States of America!! We will boycott any product, service or business that run their ads with media/news outlets that are not doing the job of investigative reporting. We will close, transfer or cash out financial accounts of all kinds, we’ll shift investments and roll over retirement accounts, IRA’s, 401k’s, ect., all in an effort to keep our money from finding its way into YOUR campaign via their contribution! You may allow your “leader” to decide your vote, BUT We The People decide our own!!
Every day I wake up and tell myself that this Administration, this Congress, this Senate, their cronies and the state run media can not possibly get any worse, until they do. Every night I fall asleep aware of the real fear I have for my children and the country we will leave them, but find comfort in knowing millions and millions of others also feel that fear, but ,like me, they also feel a fast rising intensity of the spirit that will lead us through, what we know in our heart comes.
Where do I sign up for the Revolution? I’m ready.
stacy on June 27, 2009 at 4:35 AM
On the American people? And you champion that attitude?
Gore remains what he always was: a spoiled, self-centered snot, ready to lash out at anyone who doesn’t recognize his specialness.
He will have the misery of many, many Americans for generations to come on his conscience.
onlineanalyst on June 27, 2009 at 5:16 AM
Here is the first massive tax increase from Obama that he promised he wouldn’t do.
Cap and Trade is forced tithing to the cult of Global Warming.
scotash on June 27, 2009 at 5:26 AM
Have a list? I would like to see if some where from NC. That is pretty amazing, though. What galls me is the screaming “recession” rhetoric spewing from these people’s mouths to get crap bills shoved down our throats, knowing full well it will harm us, and NOW they have to pass a harmful, intrusive energy tax on us all…what part of “NO MORE” do these people not get?
The tea parties aren’t enough…they know they can do this with impunity. What can be done? I’m discouraged.
Mommypundit on June 27, 2009 at 5:50 AM
Agreed.
And, what a small victory he actually had…having to pay off republicans to betray the country is pretty lame. ;o) However, since he has no conscience, I am not sure he cares either way. He is, after all, a robot.
Mommypundit on June 27, 2009 at 5:54 AM
Leonard Lance is my Congresscritter. Not for long.
If my Congresscritter is going to vote like a Democrat, I might as well vote for the Democrat.
Never again, Lance. You won by the skin of your teeth last time. No way you win in 2010 without Conservative support.
gridlock2 on June 27, 2009 at 6:27 AM
Mommypundit:
Brad Ellsworth of Indiana, my Congressman was one who voted no. I heard earlier that he was going to vote yes and I called his office and was downright nasty about the whole thing. I would not be surprised if the state troopers start watching my house.
Maybe that is why he ended up voting no. He was afraid of that crazy lady.
Terrye on June 27, 2009 at 6:47 AM
right4life:
I went back through the thread from last night a little and saw that you continued your assault even after I went to bed.
You wanna know why Obama is president? People like you would rather attack your own that help elect viable candidates.
I did not support this bill. I think it is a bad bill. I told my representative that.
And yet somehow or other you are saying that people like me will end freedom in this country, people like me are threatening you, people like me blah blah blah
and I am on your side. that is what is so absurd.
Terrye on June 27, 2009 at 6:55 AM
LSU:
I know what kind of flush toilet our hysterical right4life person was yammering about. My point was that freedom is not about flush toilets. I mean really.
Terrye on June 27, 2009 at 6:57 AM
1,200 pages long. Another bill that noone read before voting.
BacaDog on June 27, 2009 at 6:58 AM
right4life:
And as for the Great Depression and this we did it stuff. The point is that the real beginnings of the Great Depression came before all that. The reason the Deprssion did not get better was that a lot of the policies they followed were doing as much or more harm than good.
Some reforms, like banking reforms were helpful.
But the government did not cause all the problems. There was a lot more to it than that and it was global.
Terrye on June 27, 2009 at 7:00 AM
how many democrats were told they could vote no for political cover with the understanding they would vote yes if needed?
rob verdi on June 27, 2009 at 7:00 AM
right4life:
And as for me being a McCain enthusiast, I was an enthusiast for whoever was running against Barack Hussein Obama. I did not sit home and complain. I did not threaten to walk out on the party and just let this disaster win. I did not vote for the libertarian to send a message. I did not turn on my own kind in a fit of pique and let the opposition win. I was enthusiastic about defeating Obama. Too bad more people were not the same way.
Terrye on June 27, 2009 at 7:03 AM
Yep. Too bad McCain wasn’t enthusiatic about beating the idiot messiah. Too bad McCain went out of his way to assure people that the idiot messiah was not dangerous.
The idiot messiah was an dangerous a candidate as America has ever seen (and ever will see, since this is probably the end for the country). Too bad McCain couldn’t understand this.
BTW, McCain loved Crap&Trade. Is he going to be voting for this America-killing bill in the Senate? I’ll bet he can’t wait to register his “Yea” vote on shamnesty, also.
The only solution left to the sane parts of this country is secession.
progressoverpeace on June 27, 2009 at 7:16 AM
This is nuts. First, the unholy 3 (Snowe, Collins, Specter) allow the stimulus fiasco to pass and then these 8 traitors allow this disaster. What the hell has happened to the Republican Party??!!! I understand the Democrat/Liberal/Communist conspiracy perfectly. But the party of reason, logic, principles and liberty has utterly abdicated all of those attributes.
Senator Inhofe had better be right when he says this has no chance of passing in the Senate.
2010 cannot come soon enough – but only if true conservatives with principles and the will to expose the bastards on the left and in the media are running for office.
Lord help us.
J.J. Sefton on June 27, 2009 at 7:18 AM
Where do I sign up for the Revolution? I’m ready.
stacy on June 27, 2009 at 4:35 AM
jwp1964 on June 27, 2009 at 7:23 AM
I’ve got to get a handle on the quote function or actually preview my posts first…
jwp1964 on June 27, 2009 at 7:24 AM
proggressoverpeace:
Secession? Oh yeah, that is sane, that will work. Lincoln would be so proud. Yep, that is a viable alternative that voters everywhere will get behind.
BTW, McCain has come out against this bill. I posted something to that effect earlier from an article where someone was giving him crap for “assailing” this very bill. He said it was a tax increase designed to create a slush fund.
I did not agree with everything McCain said or did, but thus far Obama is looking a lot scarier to me than McCain ever could. And as for McCain going out of his way to assure that Obama was not dangerous…that is just weird. If he had said that Obama was some manchurian candidate people would have just thought it was desperate negative campaigning and either mocked him for it or used it against him.
The media, the socalled press were the ones who should have been dogging Obama’s trail and doing their job of talking about who Obama really was.
Terrye on June 27, 2009 at 7:27 AM
The part about having to bring one’s home up to eco-standards before selling it is what’s causing nightmares for my two beloved aunts at the moment. Sisters and best friends for life, they’ve lived together in a big century-old house for many decades, but are getting to the age at which they are thinking of moving to a two-bedroom condo; and since both of them recenty retired, they are on fixed incomes and won’t be able to maintain the property very well (painting, repairs, etc.) for too many more years.
So now, I guess, if they decide to sell it, they’ll have to spend a lot of their reduced income to get it ready. And then they’ll have to face higher capital gains taxes, I guess, if they are able to sell it.
Well, my family will try to help — but good grief, how many millions of other people will be in similar straits?
KyMouse on June 27, 2009 at 7:37 AM
OT – Get ready for more government nanny state shenanigans:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/26/health/main5116861.shtml?tag=cbsnewsSectionContent.7
Now they will be coming after your alcohol. When will the USA wake up and end this new tyranny forced upon us by representatives who represent nothing but their own interests…what will be the final catalyst????
jwp1964 on June 27, 2009 at 7:47 AM
Yes, it is sane. And it’s not a question of whether it “will work”. It is the only avenue left available. The federal government has gone far beyond its bounds and its actions emperil all of the member states. The solution is to leave.
Huh? What does that mean and why would I care about Lincoln’s thoughts on the matter?
Er … why would “voters everywhere” need to get behind secession? Only those in states that understand what freedom is and what our Founders intended need to get behind it. Interestingly, that will include the energy states (except for CA – but, while CA has energy, no one is allowed to get it or use it) and will leave nothing but leech states that will have to import 100% of their energy.
Well, that’s good. Of course neither of those issues (the tax or the slush fund) address the real problem with this bill. But, it’s nice to know that he’s not as much of a moron about crap&trade as he was for the duration fo the campaign.
The truth is the truth. All McCain had to say was that the guy was a socialist, which was very clear for a long time. And that is exactly the entree that the guy at one of McCain’s town halls gave him – calling the idiot messiah a “socialist” – which McCain went out of his way to assure the guy was wrong. This is not calling BHO a Manchurian candidate (which he also clearly is). I was not requesting that McCain show some brains, just a minimal amount of integrity and honesty. Even O’Reilly called BHO a socialist, and after the whole Joe The Plumber event, there was no doubt about BHO’s socialism (though BHO was far, far worse than a run-of-the-mill socialist). And the fact is that BHO was an extremely dangerous person, in many ways. McCain sucked. I voted for him and encouraged others to, but McCain was working against me.
That’s true, but they became the neo-Pravda. McCain didn’t bother fighting back against that very dangerous development in our country. That should have alarmed him more than anything. But, he didn’t really seem to be bothered too much by it. He was too worried that Palin might open her mouth and say something that conservatives agreed with.
progressoverpeace on June 27, 2009 at 7:51 AM
I’m in disbelief that 8 “Republicans” could vote for a bill such as this which infringes so greatly on free market enterprise and individual liberty and seeks to retard economic growth in this country. What’s next? The “Equalization of Opportunity Bill”?
And what of these notorious eight? Have we considered the possibility that our ranks have been infiltrated? I don’t even say this in jest. In all seriousness, what is to stop a Leftist from entering Republican politics and keeping the nature of his true political beliefs concealed until key moments such as this? I say we purge our ranks! This was a test of loyalty and clearly these 8 failed. Now, we must make them suffer the consequences!
RobbBond on June 27, 2009 at 7:53 AM
I’d rather vote for someone proposing inter species marriage than an idiot that would support cap and trade. (Of course if they are one and the same I’d choose any candidate who is not for C&T or, if necessary, not vote.)
Annar on June 27, 2009 at 7:55 AM
I was floored to read of Kirk’s defection. He has talked about running for His Most High Obamaship’s old seat, now being kept warm by Roland “Tombstone” Burris. Burris is extremely vulnerable if he runs, and the repubs at least had a shot, albeit not a good one, of picking up the Senate seat.
Kirk lost most of the support he might have had from Conservatives in this state (note I didn’t say Republicans). I fear the state of Illinois will continue to slip deeper into the morass of political nepotism that runs this state.
brushman on June 27, 2009 at 8:04 AM
aren’t you embarressed by social cons like me, or people who think we should secede?
its painfully obvious that the republican party is NOT a conservative party, rather it is a moderately liberal party with a conservative element. conservatives are an embarressment to people like powell, frum, mccain, etc.
mccain was not a ‘viable candidate’ he was the pick of the powers that be in the republican party. he reflects the party…which is not conservative. we’ve gone over all the issues ad naseum, but he was very similar to obama, just a little less…and thats been the story of the repoublican party for a very long time…reagan was an anomoly.
right4life on June 27, 2009 at 8:06 AM
good points!
right4life on June 27, 2009 at 8:09 AM
Secession has to be a viable option, it IS a viable option and always has been, without it there would be literally nothing the United States federal government couldn’t do to free men.
Bishop on June 27, 2009 at 8:13 AM
Wait a minute here, turncoats, grab the pitchforks, RINOS, etc. etc. Yet last October when Palin was asked if she supported Cap and Trade her answer was “I do, I do”.
Never heard the outrage then, what’s up with that?
lowandslow on June 27, 2009 at 8:16 AM
Bullshiite; if there is one place you won’t find blind, lockstepping, virtual obeisance to politicians it’s here at HA.
If you were actually around here last summer and fall, which I doubt, you would have found plenty of detractors for any comments such as the above. Try harder.
Bishop on June 27, 2009 at 8:21 AM
I don’t know what else to tell you, Bernanke admits the fed caused the great depression…Friedman said it long ago…and he is very rarely wrong about economics.
yes, the government DID cause the great depression. just as they caused this latest housing bubble and economic problems.
right4life on June 27, 2009 at 8:24 AM
Did you drink last night as I suggested?
It did wonders for me. I got a 12 break from having to think about those despicable RINO’s.
csdeven on June 27, 2009 at 8:25 AM
I’m not sure that republicans are my ‘own kind’
right4life on June 27, 2009 at 8:25 AM
ha ha. last evening i wrote my POS congressman, tom perriello (Dem, 5thCD, Va) telling him that i was going door to door advocating his defeat in 2010.
his email response: thank you for sharing your concern.
i cannot wait to campaign against him.
kelley in virginia on June 27, 2009 at 8:28 AM
I’m having this terrible nightmare and can’t seem to wake up.
petefrt on June 27, 2009 at 8:30 AM
I hope everyone has a good supply of hamsters to run the wheel generator, electricity is going to become a very pricey item.
try again later on June 27, 2009 at 8:31 AM
All politicians cease being “our own kind” when they choose their seat at the Elite Country Club , reaching across the aisle, and maintaining the status quo over defending the Constitution and protecting the freedom, rights, and property of their constituents. Again, we need to burn down the phone lines and clog up the e-mail in boxes of the Senate between now and their vote.
kingsjester on June 27, 2009 at 8:31 AM
What she doesn’t understand is that McShanesty was/is so out of touch he couldn’t/wouldn’t articulate the message that Americans wanted to hear. He left that to Ochimpy and he took advantage of it. Had he understood rank & file Americans, he would have spoken to their hearts and probably brought out the Americans that sat on their asses on Nov 4 out of a feeling of helplessness.
csdeven on June 27, 2009 at 8:32 AM
Mommypundit on June 27, 2009 at 5:50 AM:
Here’s the list of NC reps:
voting YES: Butterfield, Etheridge, Miller, Price, Shuler(!), Watt
Voting NO: Coble, Foxx, Jones, Kissell(!), McHenry, McIntyre, Myrick
Kissell’s my rep. I called yesterday and when the staffer said he’d vote NO, I expressed my gratitude. Now, if we could just get him to vote the right way on Obamacare….
Shuler – what a disappointment! There go his Blue Dog credentials.
Lurking Vet on June 27, 2009 at 8:33 AM
Pelosi et al has some damned nerve!! Does this bill cover the 300 million tons of garbage flushed through the sewers in San Francisco into the ocean? All of it non-biodegradable swirling around in one area of the Pacific. Funny how this doesn’t get a mention anywhere.
elclynn on June 27, 2009 at 8:34 AM
At least you got a response. I sent a scathing email to Bachmann earlier this month about the GOP’s paltry response to the Ogabe Budget and never received so much as an acknowledgment.
But when I send her (and others) congratulatory or laudatory emails, they can’t wait to answer back and send a reminder for campaign donations.
It’s getting to the point where I need to remove myself from the grid as much as possible and be done with all of them.
Bishop on June 27, 2009 at 8:35 AM
Bullshit my ass, when she said that all the people here could talk about was how she kicked Bidon’s ass. When I brought her answer up about cap and trade, nothing but silence and a few cracks directed towards me.
lowandslow on June 27, 2009 at 8:35 AM
right4life on June 27,
Problem is Frank wants to do it AGAIN, only this time with condo sales to the lower income people. That will boost the market and crash it again.
elclynn on June 27, 2009 at 8:39 AM
I just love me some 8 turncoat goopers. Memo to gop…remember when DeLay kept his caucus unified?Now you guys can’t even herd your sheep. I just love me some smell of gop civil war in the morning. Another memo to gop…kick those 8 dirty traitors out of the party, my Democratic Party would love to have them. Did the gop tent just grow smaller before our very eyes? Rightwing radio OWNS the gop. Rightwing radio is the master to the slave gop. Elections have consequences.
athensboy on June 27, 2009 at 8:44 AM
I sincerely hope this thing dies in the Senate. If per chance it doesn’t, this could be the end of our way of life as we know it….so keep the pressure on our Reps!!!!!
Ray V. on June 27, 2009 at 8:46 AM
yeah and higher taxes, lower standards of living, driving a cardboard box, high unemployement, stagnant economy…enjoy your ‘victory’!!
right4life on June 27, 2009 at 8:47 AM
I see your bullshiit and raise you a whatever. There are plenty, emphasis on the word plenty, of people here who would agree with you that Palin would be dumb to follow such an approach.
If you haven’t noticed, there is a pretty good mix of Palin fans, Palin detractors and Palin lukewarm supporters here at HA. If you got a tepid response and a personal attack from your comment, you must have been posting at 3am on a Tuesday morning.
Bishop on June 27, 2009 at 8:47 AM
to people like Frank, government is always good, private anything is BAD…and the poor huddled masses need a good ‘bwana’ like Frank to take care of them…
see athensboy for someone who has learned to love big (and fat) barney frank..
right4life on June 27, 2009 at 8:49 AM
Curious you would mention sheep with a name like “athensboy”.
Anyhoo, I digress. How many ‘rats voted no on the bill, somewhere in the neighborhood of 44? Demorat Party Unity, yessir.
Bishop on June 27, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Mark Kirk represents my district here in Illinois and I personally will be there in the voting booth on the day he is up for re-election to express my opinion of the incredibly stupid thing he did on Friday, in terms he will clearly understand.
pilamaye on June 27, 2009 at 8:51 AM
athensboy on June 27, 2009 at 8:44 AM
If the GOP were Conservative, the party would have the upper hand now, because your Socialist President is starting to have a meltdown. The Cap and Tax Bill has not passed into law yet. It barely passed the House and the Senate is set to vote it down. We’re so glad you stopped by, though. Now come out of the basement. Mom’s got your Count Chocula ready and cartoons are on.
kingsjester on June 27, 2009 at 8:52 AM
Well put.
It was obvious that he had a problem with understanding the public after his shamnesty was so roundly smacked down, in a very nasty fight (from shamnesty’s side), and he didn’t do the honorable thing by dropping out of the Presidential primary. And then, to pull that deal with Huckabee to get Romney out was just low – whether people like Romney or not.
And even with everything that happened, all McCain had to do was pound on Fannie and Freddie and the dems’ major culpability in the whole credit crisis, along with defending his own moronic McCain-Feingold and forcing BHO to reveal his shady and criminal campaign financing, and McCain probably could have still taken it.
progressoverpeace on June 27, 2009 at 8:52 AM
No one earning under $250K will have their taxes raised.
No one earning under $200K will have their taxes raised.
No one earning under $150K will have their taxes raised.
No one earning under $100K will have their taxes raised.
No one earning under $50K will have their taxes raised.
No one earning under $35K will have their taxes raised.
No one earning over $20K can be on welfare.
Get a green job that cost tax payers $800K to create to pay you $20K. Must be willing to relocate to China or Mexico.
maverick muse on June 27, 2009 at 8:53 AM
Maybe the worms will turn when they start getting higher electric bills and pay more at the pump. I doubt it, stupid is as stupid does. Of course, the ones making up to 150% of the poverty line will get a rebate to reduce the pain.
Kissmygrits on June 27, 2009 at 8:55 AM
That is it in a nutshell. It’s amazing that people can forget the truth from just over a year ago.
Huckabee never had a chance and was simply in there to hamstring Mitt.
csdeven on June 27, 2009 at 8:57 AM
They weren’t squealing the “helpless” line at the time. They proudly boasted they would not vote at all to teach a lesson.
Lesson? Another form of fraud and abuse by passive aggressors.
maverick muse on June 27, 2009 at 8:59 AM
Democrat National Suicide Plan:
1) Obligate and spend in a way that requires high growth in order to service.
2) Strap economy with onerous laws and regulations in order to severely limit growth and strip private capital.
3) Nation burns to the ground, along with everything and everyone in it, as debt is impossible to service and currency disappears in a puff of smoke.
progressoverpeace on June 27, 2009 at 9:02 AM
Wait a minute here, turncoats, grab the pitchforks, RINOS, etc. etc. Yet last October when Palin was asked if she supported Cap and Trade her answer was “I do, I do”.
Never heard the outrage then, what’s up with that?
lowandslow on June 27, 2009 at 8:16 AM
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Wow, you sure are a funny projectionist. Google the entire conversation instead of a four word sound bite. She spoke of Energy conservation in regards to C&T. Her direction of said issue has once again been over simplified. And this:
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Dated March 29 2009
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“Yeah, and I’m not a defeatist. I’m not saying that Alaska’s little voice will not be heard in the debate, but I am saying we have to be pragmatic.
We have to be realistic about it, and if this is what is coming from this new administration especially, we have got to be ready for that and we have to do our part to remedy the problems that I believe Cap and Trade are going to cause.”
Sarah Palin
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Stop cherry picking lowandslow. You are truly low and slow.
Americannodash on June 27, 2009 at 9:06 AM
The pathetically regurgitated homey humor news Huckabee Moments make me cringe at the thought that somehow someone is still thinking, “If only”, savoring the return of such a ninny. Huckabee performs with the same flourish as Joe Biden. And that’s a huckabee moment.
maverick muse on June 27, 2009 at 9:07 AM
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