Cap and trade vote today, complete with AP spin; Update: 300-page, last-minute amendment; Update: Greenpeace opposes

posted at 8:46 am on June 26, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

In pre-Norman England, King Canute once had his bearers carry him to the sea, where he ordered the ocean to recede.  Often this story is told to indict Canute for having delusions of grandeur, but historians usually agree that Canute intended to teach a lesson to his court, whose profuse flattery had annoyed the king to distraction.  Why does Canute come to mind today?  For some reason, I thought of it when I read the AP’s lead to their coverage of the cap-and-trade bill coming to the House floor for a vote:

A handful of undecided Democrats hold the key to whether the House will confront global warming and begin a shift away from fossil fuels to cleaner sources of energy.

Well, that’s not biased coverage at all, is it?  “Whether the House will confront global warming” implies that all debate has ceased on the subject, while in truth it has intensified.  Kim Strassel notes the increasing skepticism in today’s Wall Street Journal:

Among the many reasons President Barack Obama and the Democratic majority are so intent on quickly jamming a cap-and-trade system through Congress is because the global warming tide is again shifting. It turns out Al Gore and the United Nations (with an assist from the media), did a little too vociferous a job smearing anyone who disagreed with them as “deniers.” The backlash has brought the scientific debate roaring back to life in Australia, Europe, Japan and even, if less reported, the U.S.

In April, the Polish Academy of Sciences published a document challenging man-made global warming. In the Czech Republic, where President Vaclav Klaus remains a leading skeptic, today only 11% of the population believes humans play a role. In France, President Nicolas Sarkozy wants to tap Claude Allegre to lead the country’s new ministry of industry and innovation. Twenty years ago Mr. Allegre was among the first to trill about man-made global warming, but the geochemist has since recanted. New Zealand last year elected a new government, which immediately suspended the country’s weeks-old cap-and-trade program.

The number of skeptics, far from shrinking, is swelling. Oklahoma Sen. Jim Inhofe now counts more than 700 scientists who disagree with the U.N. — 13 times the number who authored the U.N.’s 2007 climate summary for policymakers. Joanne Simpson, the world’s first woman to receive a Ph.D. in meteorology, expressed relief upon her retirement last year that she was finally free to speak “frankly” of her nonbelief. Dr. Kiminori Itoh, a Japanese environmental physical chemist who contributed to a U.N. climate report, dubs man-made warming “the worst scientific scandal in history.” Norway’s Ivar Giaever, Nobel Prize winner for physics, decries it as the “new religion.” A group of 54 noted physicists, led by Princeton’s Will Happer, is demanding the American Physical Society revise its position that the science is settled. (Both Nature and Science magazines have refused to run the physicists’ open letter.)

The collapse of the “consensus” has been driven by reality. The inconvenient truth is that the earth’s temperatures have flat-lined since 2001, despite growing concentrations of C02. Peer-reviewed research has debunked doomsday scenarios about the polar ice caps, hurricanes, malaria, extinctions, rising oceans. A global financial crisis has politicians taking a harder look at the science that would require them to hamstring their economies to rein in carbon.

Of course, the AP reports on this as part of its coverage, too.  This comes in paragarph … er … oh, wait, it doesn’t appear at all.  The AP does report on opposition to the bill on its fiscal insanity, but waters that down considerably:

Everyone agrees that under this “cap-and-trade” system the cost of energy is expected to increase as electricity producers and industrial plants pay for increased efficiency, move toward greater use of renewable energy, pay for ways to capture carbon emissions or purchase pollution allowances.

They disagree, however, on how much of the added cost would be passed onto consumers. Democrats argue that much of the cost increase could be offset by other provisions in the bill.

All of the increase will get passed to consumers.  Democrats hope to buffer that through targeted subsidies, but the AP neglects to mention that mechanism — because that money also comes from consumers.  Business costs always get passed to the purchaser in the form of higher prices, and anyone who argues that they don’t either have no understanding of business and pricing or has a desire to sell snake oil to the gullible.

Cap-and-trade is a tax, one imposed through an artificial scarcity model onto an industry that drives the economy.  The AP reports the CBO and EPA cost estimates without mentioning that those predictions only cover the actual mechanical costs of cap-and-trade.  They do not predict the economic impact on American families from the loss of economic power as energy becomes more scarce and expensive.  This bill will lose the US 2.5% of its GDP each and every year in the years after the first decade of implementation.

King Canute knew better than to believe his advisers when they told him that he was powerful enough to affect ocean levels.  Unfortunately, this administration and the Democratic Party don’t have the sense Canute did.

Call your Representative today to tell them not to strangle the American economy.  Michelle has the numbers and names to call.

Update: Before today, the bill ran a little over 1,000 pages.  Early this morning, Waxman dropped a 300-page amendment into it.  Be sure to ask your Representatives if they plan to read either of these before voting on the bill. (via Mary Katharine Ham)

Update II: Greenpeace has come out in opposition to Waxman-Markey, too.  However, conservatives should temper their enthusiasm:

“Since the Waxman-Markey bill left the Energy and Commerce committee, yet another fleet of industry lobbysists has weakened the bill even more, and further widened the gap between what Waxman-Markey does and what science demands. As a result, Greenpeace opposes this bill in its current form. We are calling upon Congress to vote against this bill unless substantial measures are taken to strengthen it. Despite President Obama’s assurance that he would enact strong, science-based legislation, we are now watching him put his full support behind a bill that chooses politics over science, elevates industry interests over national interest, and shows the significant limitations of what this Congress believes is possible.

“As it comes to the floor, the Waxman-Markey bill sets emission reduction targets far lower than science demands, then undermines even those targets with massive offsets. The giveaways and preferences in the bill will actually spur a new generation of nuclear and coal-fired power plants to the detriment of real energy solutions. To support such a bill is to abandon the real leadership that is called for at this pivotal moment in history.  We simply no longer have the time for legislation this weak. “

In other words, Greenpeace is angry that it doesn’t get more confiscatory and economically suicidal.  It makes Waxman-Markey look moderate, which is a bigger problem than a boon for conservatives.

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Anna on June 26, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Thanks. Cutting off your nose in spite of your face deal. Smart.

Cindy Munford on June 26, 2009 at 11:37 AM

TexasJew on June 26, 2009 at 11:32 AM

Even better. I’ll get by Bro in law to bring a couple of his derricks and we’ll be in “tall cotton”

HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Called each of the following…

Steve Driehaus (Ohio 1st) – busy 6 times over 20 minutes, finally got through to leave message
Tim Ryan (Ohio 17th) – called and spoke to secretary who said he’d pass on my message
John Boccieri (Ohio 16th) – another secretary, who said he’d pass on my message

knob on June 26, 2009 at 11:38 AM

My sincere, sincere apologies to Bugs Bunny…

pullingmyhairout on June 26, 2009 at 11:38 AM

My sincere, sincere apologies to Bugs Bunny…

pullingmyhairout on June 26, 2009 at 11:38 AM

You did the right thing.

;-)

hillbillyjim on June 26, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Cindy Munford on June 26, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Yeah, real smart. But it doesn’t surprise me, just saddens me.

Anna on June 26, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Cap and trade, a tax imposed to ostensibly fix a non-problem, will crush what remains of American Industry. People will be begging for the order and renewal promised in the new People’s Democratic Socialist Republic of America. Of course, there will be no base left upon which to build.

I think there is a great future in breeding draught horses. And that is no joke.

My only consolation to the malfeasance of the MSM in foisting The One upon us is that their children and grandchildren are going to suffer misery in equal measure to everyone else’s. I call that a miscalculation on their part.

shaken on June 26, 2009 at 11:43 AM

Drops in an ammendment today? That alone should kill it. It is loaded with convoluted changes. It may even negate all the last minute promises they made. All those that vote yes are taking a big chance. voting blind.

seven on June 26, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Drops in an ammendment today? That alone should kill it. It is loaded with convoluted changes. It may even negate all the last minute promises they made. All those that vote yes are taking a big chance. voting blind.

seven on June 26, 2009 at 11:44 AM

And our congress would NEVER vote for something they haven’t read/

brdchris1 on June 26, 2009 at 11:45 AM

310 page last minute amendment? What’s the big deal?

It is a sure sign of cynicism when you don’t trust the lobbyists to write our tax and energy programs.

Laurence on June 26, 2009 at 11:45 AM

Animator Girl on June 26, 2009 at 11:32 AM

Here ya go…

The actual cost of S. 2191 is difficult to estimate–as America has never had to deal with such severe energy constraints–but would likely be very high.

A Regressive Tax

By limiting the supply of fossil fuels, S. 2191 would raise the cost of energy. For consumers, cap and trade means more expensive gasoline and electricity as well as net job losses in energy-dependent sectors. Senator Lieberman himself concedes costs into the hundreds of billions of dollars. And as the Congressional Budget Office has noted, such energy cost increases act as a regressive tax on the poor.[8]

Lost Jobs

The net job losses from S. 2191 are estimated by Charles River Associates to be 1.2 million to 2.3 million by 2015.[9] Some of these jobs will be lost for good, due to the impact of higher energy costs on economic activity. Others, chiefly in the manufacturing sector, will be sent overseas. In the very likely event that S. 2191 significantly raises domestic manufacturing costs and that developing nations refuse to impose similar restrictions, the American economy could experience a substantial outsourcing of manufacturing jobs to those nations with lower energy costs.

Little Environmental Gain

While the costs of aggressive cap and trade proposals are substantial, the environmental benefits are suspect. This is true even if one fully accepts the claim of man-made global warming. The most ambitious measure to date is the Kyoto Protocol, but even if the U.S. were a party to this treaty and the European nations and other signatories were in full compliance (most are unlikely to meet their targets), the treaty would reduce the Earth’s future temperature by an estimated 0.07 degrees Celsius by 2050–an amount too small even to verify.[10] S. 2191 would at best do only a little more.

Indeed, a number of economists, including many who are far from global warming skeptics, warn of overly aggressive cap and trade measures imposing costs exceeding the benefits.[11] In other words, the costs of implementing such measures would be higher than the value of the global warming damage that they would prevent.

The Slippery Slope

It is a near certainty that the first climate bill enacted will not be the last one. In fact, most major environmental organizations have already criticized S. 2191 and other pending global warming bills as inadequate, or as at best “a good first step.” The economic impacts of S. 2191, though substantial in their own right, could be a mere down payment toward costlier subsequent measures.

Conclusion

Cap and trade bills are nothing short of a government re-engineering of the American economy. And S. 2191, with its aggressive targets to reduce emissions from fossil fuel use, would put the nation on a path of serious economic harm not justified by any benefits.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Economy/wm1723.cfm

elduende on June 26, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Zombie Waxman is trying to sneak up on us.

Damn that Michnael Jackson for diverting our attention. You would think Waxman gave him the Demerol…hey wait a second!

Mr. Joe on June 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM

I remember when Pelosi named him chair of the intel committee and at an interview he did not know the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite. Pathetic.
elduende on June 26, 2009 at 11:36 AM
At least he didn’t think it was Sheeee-ite Moslems.
Reyes in way over his head. Basically, he’s a mid-level Border Patrol agent who got elected to Congress in a very poor and rather half-assed Spanish speaking district – mine.
Reyes reminds me of that low-level Border Patrol grunt (played by James Whitmore) in the 50′s horror movie, “Them”, about the giant radioactive ants.
By the end of the movie, he’s giving international press conferences.

TexasJew on June 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM

Drops in an ammendment today? That alone should kill it. It is loaded with convoluted changes. It may even negate all the last minute promises they made. All those that vote yes are taking a big chance. voting blind.

seven on June 26, 2009 at 11:44 AM

Even if they read it 100 times it won’t matter because this is economic civil war plain & simple. ANY Congress person that votes YES for Cap & Trade will NOT be re-elected. Promise….

izoneguy on June 26, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Just wrote another round of emails. I am livid that they are trying to sell this as something good that they are doing for me.

ORconservative on June 26, 2009 at 11:48 AM

Just spoke with Ruben Hinojosa’s (TX-15) office in DC. They are now saying he has not made up his mind yet. Guess they’re to chickenshit to admit he does whatever they tell him to.
I want to see if Heath Shuler has the good sense to vote no.

lonestar1 on June 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

The Greenpeace response is the new ploy of libs and the MSM. They criticize Obama/libs for not being radical ENOUGH. Then they can say “Hey, we were critical of…”. LOL

marklmail on June 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Cap and Trade is nothing more than a thinly disguised VAT.

The GW red herring Dems have hung their hat on is starting to stink pretty bad and this bill will be DOA in the Senate even if it passes the House.

The problem for Dems is that they still have to figure out a way to start taxing everyone without telling them. That’s the only way they can even begin to pay for the trillions in wasteful debt they have put us all on the hook for.

They are running out of dishonest options and may actually have to tell the truth or some reasonable facsimile thereof.

RadClown on June 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Dina Titus (D) Las Vegas office says she hasn’t decided yet. Gotta keep those calls and letters going in today.

Fishoutofwater on June 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

Its better to burn out than to fade away?

America is going to go down in flames, its not enough that we’re going to be 54 Trillion in debt with Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, the worst people eva’ are going to enact Cap-n-Trade and Nationalized Healthcare by the end of this year. It will be irreversible and doom our nation.

Sorry to be so pessimistic, but I don’t see anyone changing the tide here. The names Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Dodd, and Waxman need to go down in history as the most villianous pieces of shiate since Himmler.

Geministorm on June 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

A separate issue but one that always raises my hackles about Waxmen. CDR financial products is the company involved in the muni-bond scandal that destroyed Bill Richardson and bankrupted municipalities from Philadelphia to Alabama. That company gave thousands to Waxmen and happens to be locate in CA-30, Waxmen’s district. He never went after these guys when he was in charge of ethics and reform even though they had been exposed as early as 2006 in the bloomberg story Broken Promises. This man is a criminal and an influence peddler plain and simple and this bill is a power grab, no more no less.

rob verdi on June 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

In other words, Greenpeace is angry that it doesn’t get more confiscatory and economically suicidal. It makes Waxman-Markey look moderate, which is a bigger problem than a boon for conservatives.

I know they’re against it because they feel it doesn’t go far enough – even so, I’ll take it.

There is very little chance of Congress passing a bill that goes further. This was tempered as much as it was in the hopes of getting the rural Dems to vote for it.

If Greenpeace helps us kill this bill, I’m fine with it.

JadeNYU on June 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

In other words, Greenpeace is angry that it doesn’t get more confiscatory and economically suicidal. It makes Waxman-Markey look moderate, which is a bigger problem than a boon for conservatives.

Isn’t this assuming they have credibility?

Joe Caps on June 26, 2009 at 11:50 AM

“Them”, about the giant radioactive ants.
By the end of the movie, he’s giving international press conferences.

TexasJew on June 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM

LOL! Seriously though…that’s a phenomenal movie…the part where the little girl is sitting in the ambulance and she hears the creepy cicada type sound…classic.

elduende on June 26, 2009 at 11:50 AM

They keep putting nails into the coffin of this economy. One day, you’d hope, people will wake up and realize what’s going on.

Probably not, though.

lorien1973 on June 26, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Greenpeace. Run by idiots, for idiots.

GarandFan on June 26, 2009 at 11:52 AM

elduende on June 26, 2009 at 11:46 AM

You forgot the one plus that I can see coming from the Cap-and-Trade legislation.

A new era of Blues Music!

Imagine how many people will be sitting on their porch (because they can’t afford A/C) and putting together ditties!

I’m surprised this alone wasn’t used as a selling point as job creation!

We are all Blues Musicians now!

cntrlfrk on June 26, 2009 at 11:53 AM

They keep putting nails into the coffin of this economy. One day, you’d hope, people will wake up and realize what’s going on.

Probably not, though.

lorien1973 on June 26, 2009 at 11:51 AM

People are too busy mourning MJ to be concerned about their wallets.

brdchris1 on June 26, 2009 at 11:53 AM

So let me see if I get this right:

Higher gasoline prices: check
Higher electricity prices: check
Small to medium businesses out of business: check
Millions more unemployed: check
Demands for energy from sources that can’t deliver: check
A heating emergency for low-income families: check
Less travel: check
Less production: check
Trade war: check
Let government off the hook for the same regulations: check
Enrich those invested heavily in green tech: check
Base all this on a highly controversial science we have miniscule data for: check
Deny anyone the right to debate: check

Welcome to Obama land. Get your cardboard box – only 12 dollars a piece (cardboard = trees = carbon tax, ya know!)

Thunderstorm129 on June 26, 2009 at 11:53 AM

HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 11:37 AM
Hell, you don’t need a drilling rig… a post hole digger will do!
And, as an exra bonus, you get a lifetime membership at the Girvin Social Club right up the road! A free gusano in every bottle!
http://www.texasescapes.com/TOWNS/Texas_ghost_towns/Girvin_Texas/Girvin_texas.htm
(Scroll down for a photo)

TexasJew on June 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM

Thunderstorm129 on June 26, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Don’t forget subserviance to a world body.

fourdeucer on June 26, 2009 at 11:56 AM

cntrlfrk on June 26, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Hah. I think I saw an earmark in Waxman’s so called amendment authorizing the acquisition of 300 million harmonicas for us drones to complement this crap sandwich.

elduende on June 26, 2009 at 11:56 AM

If it does pass the House (gulp), what are the chances it’ll pass the Senate? Last summer for my job I went to a Senate hearing on the cap-and-trade bill in its then incarnation (Lieberman-Warner). The Republican Senators I heard speak (Murkowski and Sessions stood out the most) made clear Republicans’ opposition to the bill, so hopefully they’ll stand together (Spector, I’m talking to you).

I’m really nervous about this. The economy’s awful as it is, the last thing it needs it a final push into the grave.

Yossarian on June 26, 2009 at 11:57 AM

It makes Waxman-Markey look moderate, which is a bigger problem than a boon for conservatives.

Which is probably the point.

Cindy Munford on June 26, 2009 at 11:57 AM

I’m in Oklahoma, and thankfully none of our reps (even Boren, the lone democrat) is stupid enough to vote for this POC bill. I’m hopeful we’ll pull an Arizona, and at least try to outlaw the whole thing.

mbs on June 26, 2009 at 11:57 AM

Are you saying the Greenpeace opposition is a cagy way of trying to give moderates cover for voting for it? I doubt that.

tommylotto on June 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM

And I know Spector isn’t a Republican anymore, but you know what I mean…substitute Collins for Spector.

Yossarian on June 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Anna on June 26, 2009 at 11:41 AM

I swear if it wasn’t home it wouldn’t make sense to want to move back there.

Cindy Munford on June 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Economy/wm1723.cfm

elduende on June 26, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Thank you!

Problem – many of the reports I see indicate that the effects would not become apparently for years – a decade, even. Not only does this seem unlikely to me, but if it’s true, there will be no chance of killing the bill before then, because the people won’t be convinced of the harm it will cause until it’s too late. Any chance that we’d see the negative effects of the bill in time for the 2010 elections so that we’d have the opportunity to repeal the bill?

Animator Girl on June 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM

I doubt that.

tommylotto on June 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Don’t doubt it. That is exactly what’s going on.

They understand the slippery slope here.

lorien1973 on June 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Daily Kos (Dworkin), via Politico:

“75% of the public wants emissions addressed. Congress generally gets one shot at it, and this is it.”

75%? Really? Wonder where that came from. And when did addressed=this cap and trade bill?

Clueless-ville, meet your newest resident.

Thunderstorm129 on June 26, 2009 at 12:01 PM

TexasJew on June 26, 2009 at 11:55 AM

That rush hour looks like heaven.

HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Any chance that we’d see the negative effects of the bill in time for the 2010 elections so that we’d have the opportunity to repeal the bill?

Animator Girl on June 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM

This economy won’t be growing by the 2010 elections.

But if you think that matters, think again. Can you think of any republican out there who is out there standing up against big government?

No. I can’t either.

I think they like the idea.

lorien1973 on June 26, 2009 at 12:02 PM

Repost…

I just spent the last several hours going over the “300 page amendment”

I’m a half-arsed speed reader, and even being an ol’ man with limited mental abilities, I can tell you that this “amendment” would put contractors and builders out of business, if enacted and enforced, will make individual home ownership a thing of the past. Even if you went all out to comply with their “green” requirements, and had unlimited funds and could actually get a loan to build a new house, informing the lender (which you most likely wouldn’t have to) that you intended to build to the new “green” code in this amendment, you couldn’t build a house with one room for less than you would now pay for a three bedroom home.

Can you build a new home or anything else and not comply with this new “Green” code? Without a law degree and reading it again with others, I can’t say for sure. But it appears at first glance you could, but would be open for ligation and of course no taxpayer money for any credits or tax breaks and with possible fines and other penalties.

That is not counting the restrictions on where you can build, how you obtain your electricity, water, gas and access to your property. Which if you have to go by the new laws and restrictions on this new amendment, you couldn’t build an outhouse, let alone a residence.

I’m going to bet that this amendment has been months in the making and has just been waiting for the right time to be tacked on to something that the powers in charge think has a chance of passing. I’m also going to state that no one other than the staffers and those that instigated the bill have any idea what is in it, let alone read or considered what is in the bill.

Of course the bill that this amendment is attached to is even more dangerous and will have a disastrous effect on our Nation. So…what are we going to do about it?

I’m going to stay home today and send dozens of e-mails, make dozens of phone calls and demand that my friends all do the same.

What are you going to do???

Papa Ray
West Texas

Papa Ray on June 26, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Papa Ray on June 26, 2009 at 12:03 PM

I swear if it wasn’t home it wouldn’t make sense to want to move back there.

Cindy Munford on June 26, 2009 at 11:58 AM

I can’t wait to leave, but I’m actually moving somewhere worse (Maryland). It’s a fail/fail situation, at least politically.

I’ll miss sweet tea, though.

Anna on June 26, 2009 at 12:04 PM

We are all Blues Musicians now!

cntrlfrk on June 26, 2009 at 11:53 AM

Funny you should mention that…

Pulled out the old acoustic last night for the first time in about 5 years… something about being borbound and being unemployed will do that to ya…

Romeo13 on June 26, 2009 at 12:04 PM

Thank you!

Problem – many of the reports I see indicate that the effects would not become apparently for years – a decade, even. Not only does this seem unlikely to me, but if it’s true, there will be no chance of killing the bill before then, because the people won’t be convinced of the harm it will cause until it’s too late. Any chance that we’d see the negative effects of the bill in time for the 2010 elections so that we’d have the opportunity to repeal the bill?

Animator Girl on June 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM

I’ve seen a report I think that by late 2009, we’d already be seeing higher energy costs. Will try and remember where.

Thunderstorm129 on June 26, 2009 at 12:04 PM

I think left-liberal ambition is a bubble about to burst. So much seems likely to be destroyed.

Kralizec on June 26, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Can you think of any republican out there who is out there standing up against big government?

No. G-ddammit, we are so screwed.

My lunch break will be all phone calls today. I pray they’re listening.

Animator Girl on June 26, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Papa Ray on June 26, 2009 at 12:03 PM

So where do you live?
Anyone who can read that much crap deserves a free case of beer – or some Demerol!

TexasJew on June 26, 2009 at 12:05 PM

Animator Girl on June 26, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Hey here’s another link if you want an idea of this nightmare in practice lets look at Europe:

EUROPE’S “CAP AND TRADE” PROBLEMS

As U.S. lawmakers work on the details of “cap and trade” carbon dioxide legislation, they need to know what Europeans already know: When trying to slow down global warming, beware of unintended consequences, says Steven Mufson in the Washington Post.

Consider Kollo Holding’s (a silicon carbide maker) factory in the Netherlands:

* Managers at the factory say their plant as an ecological standout: They use waste gases to generate energy and have installed the latest pollution-control equipment.
* But Europe’s emissions program has driven electricity prices so high that the facility routinely shuts down for part of the day to save money on power, which, contrary to environmental goals, reduces energy efficiency.
* Although demand for its products is strong, the plant has laid off 40 of its 130 employees and trimmed production.
* Two customers have turned to cheaper imports from China, which is not covered by Europe’s costly regulations.

They aren’t the only ones suffering, says Mufson. French cement workers fear they’re going to lose jobs to Morocco, which doesn’t have to meet the European guidelines; and German homeowners pay 25 percent more for electricity than they did before the caps.

Making matters worse, the rationing hasn’t proved successful, says Mufson:

* Because of lobbying by well-connected companies, the EU’s limits on emissions ended up being higher than the actual emissions.
* As a result, fewer companies than expected had to buy emissions this year, and the price of carbon allowances, which had topped $30 per ton of carbon about a year ago, crashed to about $1 a ton.
* Germany boasts that it has cut emissions to 18.4 percent below 1990 levels, but nearly half the reduction was because of sagging industrial output in the former East Germany after reunification.
* For the 2008-2012 period, European Union officials sliced 5 percent off Germany’s emissions proposal.

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=14411

BTW Spain has the most aggressive Cap and trade scheme and they had a 17% unemployment rate BEFORE the current economic meltdown of last Fall hit.

elduende on June 26, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Too late. I just heard it passed the house by 12 votes. Circuit boards and URL was busy so I couldn’t get through to my congresscritter. I guess they decided to speed up the process to avoid further ire.

peterargus on June 26, 2009 at 12:07 PM

I think there is a great future in breeding draught horses. And that is no joke.

shaken on June 26, 2009 at 11:43 AM

No, they will tax the gas emissions from draft teams as they are planning to do with cows…..there goes any profit.

Trust me, many of these horses are bigger and have more output than the cows….

Although the output from the Democratic congress right now is more than the entire horse & cow population of the US …

Shepherd on June 26, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Somewhere, Mao is laughing…

TexasJew on June 26, 2009 at 12:07 PM

They keep putting nails into the coffin of this economy. One day, you’d hope, people will wake up and realize what’s going on.

Probably not, though.

lorien1973 on June 26, 2009 at 11:51 AM

If those of us who oppose Obama’s policies are correct in predicting their negative economic and national security impacts, which I believe, average Americans will at least experience significant economic effects. Liberals in Congress and the MSM can’t spike, bury or spin that. At most they can blame Bush. How long can they get away with that without being held responsible? At most, I believe, through the end of this year.

So, I still hope the 2010 elections will be a major turning point and fiscal conservatives will take back enough seats in Congress to stop any further damage. That will require assembling a coalition agreeing on responsible fiscal and national security policies, who are willing to disagree civilly on other matters, i.e. the Reagan approach. Is that possible?

And then, we’ll need both a president and Congress committed to conservative fiscal and defense policies to undo the damage already done. Hopefully starting in 2012.

Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 12:09 PM

I don’t think the bill has been voted on yet. That was a procedural vote to bring it to the floor for a final vote I think.

sandee on June 26, 2009 at 12:09 PM

So, I still hope the 2010 elections will be a major turning point and fiscal conservatives will take back enough seats in Congress to stop any further damage.

Name me one, just one, gop congressional candidate for 2010 who is out there talking about this. Anyone? Bueller?

lorien1973 on June 26, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Called Nita Lowey’s office more thant 20 times over the last three days. Busy signal everytime. Just tried to go to her website and could not get in.

Is she hiding?

buddylats on June 26, 2009 at 12:11 PM

All republicans voted No on bringing the HR 2454 to vote. Even my Democrat Representative Halverson vote no. Thanks for than, but you still won’t get my vote in 2010.

WashJeff on June 26, 2009 at 12:11 PM

peterargus on June 26, 2009 at 12:07 PM

They haven’t voted on cap and trade yet. They are voting on Interior Department bill.

Pelosi is still trying to secure the votes…if she doesn’t have them she’ll hold off the vote until she does…so she does not embarrass herself and Obama with a loss.

elduende on June 26, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Too late. I just heard it passed the house by 12 votes.

By a strange coincidence, the mail just came and in the pile was a Cabela’s flyer advertising their discounts on rifles and handguns.

Bishop on June 26, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Those 12 votes (217-205) were to advance the bill, and there were some Democrat pull-outs.
The fact that there are more than 20 morons in total who are willing to vote for this thing is a testament to the suicidal tendencies of this country.
Between that pathetic fecal pellet in the White House being easily elected and the ongoing freak show in Congress, I can’t see a viable future for this indebted, corrupt nation we have become.
So lets all take the Demerol!

TexasJew on June 26, 2009 at 12:15 PM

Reminds me of this parody news headline: “Obama Urges Congress to ‘Set an Example for the World to Follow’ by Passing Critical Tooth Fairy Legislation”: (June 26 entry)

Mervis Winter on June 26, 2009 at 12:15 PM

“So where do you live?
Anyone who can read that much crap deserves a free case of beer – or some Demerol!”

Between El Paso and Fort Worth, in a small town. I’m not going to say more because I am not going to make it easy for the Obamatrons to instigate an IRS audit or a visit by others looking for my guns and my ammo.

Hey…isn’t Demerol what killed Michael J. (the pervert)?

No, I’ll stick to my morning toddy of Vodka (two shots). V8 Juice, Louisiana Hot Sauce and Black Pepper.

That holds me though the day until I can have my doctor prescribed “evening drink”.

What can I say, I’m too old and have too many grand kids to drink any more, but I’m doing all I can to help our Republic. I’m brainwashing all of them in True American History and a love for our Republic. God knows that our educational system is doing the opposite.

Oh…I’m old but I’m still the best shot in our circle of friends and family.

Buy More Ammo…!

Papa Ray
West Texas

Papa Ray on June 26, 2009 at 12:19 PM

I know they’re against it because they feel it doesn’t go far enough – even so, I’ll take it.

There is very little chance of Congress passing a bill that goes further. This was tempered as much as it was in the hopes of getting the rural Dems to vote for it.

If Greenpeace helps us kill this bill, I’m fine with it.

JadeNYU on June 26, 2009 at 11:49 AM

This was kind of my thought. I wouldn’t mind if Greenpeace helped kill this particular version because if they do and then get a more stringent version, more to their liking, then it will probably lose even more Blue Dog support and won’t pass either. Or maybe I am stupidly optimistic.

XWing5 on June 26, 2009 at 12:24 PM

In other words, Greenpeace is angry that it doesn’t get more confiscatory and economically suicidal. It makes Waxman-Markey look moderate, which is a bigger problem than a boon for conservatives.

It’s probably just some coordinated, “strategic” opposition with the objective of doing exactly what is bolded in the quote above.

thirteen28 on June 26, 2009 at 12:28 PM

Pelosi is still trying to secure the votes…if she doesn’t have them she’ll hold off the vote until she does…so she does not embarrass herself and Obama with a loss.

elduende on June 26, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Embarrass herself and Obama again.

It’s going to be much harder in the Senate.

highhopes on June 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM

He doesn’t respond to my mail either, but neither did Drake. To hell with both of them.

Anna on June 26, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Really? Drake always replied. Whether it was on immigration, Islamofascism or whatever.

darwin on June 26, 2009 at 12:29 PM

The unbelievabel ignorance of this, is just mind boggling.

The AP, and anyone else who supports this…do they not realize it all comes full circle? If consumers have to pay out more for this nonsense, they can’t afford newspapers, tv, lights, magazines, let alone internet. You’ll be seriously limited in all you do, and that will take business away from them. It’s absurd. Unless of course, like unions, they are exempt from taxes for the energy they use to print their material, or the paper they print it on.

This is an incredibly stupid bill, that will make a choice few, very rich, and the rest of us, begging in the food lines.

capejasmine on June 26, 2009 at 12:30 PM

As it comes to the floor, the Waxman-Markey bill sets emission reduction targets far lower than science demands

Science demands? Tell you what, I demand no bill whatsoever.

Vashta.Nerada on June 26, 2009 at 12:39 PM

If “Loot and Scoot” “Cap and Trade” passes, it will be tantamount to a declaration of Economic War by Congress upon America.

Joe Bloggs on June 26, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Called my Rep (Rodriguez, Ciro Texas). He is voting against cap & tax.

txag92 on June 26, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Name me one, just one, gop congressional candidate for 2010 who is out there talking about this. Anyone? Bueller?

lorien1973 on June 26, 2009 at 12:10 PM

I’m not familiar enough with the declared 2010 congressional candidates’ platforms to say there are or there aren’t, yet. But I’m looking for people who can be relied upon to promote: fiscal responsibility; strong national security; and creative ways to bridge differences on social issues or at least disagreement over them civilly. And if I can’t find someone promoting all three, I’ll take the first two. I’ll let you now if I find any potential candidates. Please do the same. I believe this is the best approach to ending the Obamanation, and I need hope.

Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 12:46 PM

the test vote is in, it passed

The vote was 217-205 to advance the White House-backed legislation to the floor, and 30 Democrats defected, a reflection of the controversy the bill sparked.

Doesn’t look like one republican vote for it.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_climate_bill

rob verdi on June 26, 2009 at 12:48 PM

I wrote all of my senators and representative the following note.

Please vote no on Cap and Trade. Ican’t afford it and neither can the goverment.

mkm19602000 on June 26, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Somewhere, Mao is laughing…

TexasJew on June 26, 2009 at 12:07 PM

And Al Gore and George Soros are finalizing plans to make a boat load of money on this.

Joe Bloggs on June 26, 2009 at 12:51 PM

The country just took step in the directions of destroying itself and enshrining the influence peddler and the lobbyist as the new currency of wealth in this country.

rob verdi on June 26, 2009 at 12:52 PM

Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 12:46 PM

The GOP is supporting candidates who are supporters of big government. So, you must presume that they approve and like what is happening in Washington at the moment.

So why would you hope anything would change in 2010, even if GOP gains a majority in either chamber?

I hate to be a downer, but this bait and switch bill is a huge nail in the coffin of this economy. It’s just a step towards nationalizing the energy industry. Then you have healthcare next.

Any sane group of people in charge would do something; wait to see its effects (unintended consequences and all that) then move on to the next time. The speed at which this is being done shows that no one even cares what the results are.

lorien1973 on June 26, 2009 at 12:52 PM

I agree with Greenpeace 100%. Any bill that passes related to global warming should be based on science. It’s to bad that Greenpeace can’t use science when they form their opinion…

MNScott on June 26, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Basically, cap and trade strikes me as the Iraq war of the Democratic domestic policy agenda. It’s the overreach moment. It’s a massive program that, unlike health care reform, no one is demanding, no one understands, and no one can explain. Cap and trade may be the only thing that can save the Republican party from eight years in the wilderness

Michael Goldfarb

Mr. Joe on June 26, 2009 at 12:54 PM

goldfarb, wait till health care, you ain’t seen nothing yet.

rob verdi on June 26, 2009 at 12:57 PM

pardon me I meant Mr. Joe

rob verdi on June 26, 2009 at 12:57 PM

The Greenpeace “opposition” is a tactical head-fake in my opinion.

hillbillyjim on June 26, 2009 at 12:59 PM

So, do we get 1970s-style gas lines again?

We’ve been told for the last few decades that we lack refining capacity. Now, cap and trade is going to make refining here even more expensive… and close some of the “barely enough” refining capacity…

Mew

acat on June 26, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Help – the number to the congress?

Bambi on June 26, 2009 at 1:02 PM

I’m just wondering…. If Waxman and Barney Frank had children, what would they look like?

Star20 on June 26, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Newsvine is holding a live vote…get in and vote “no” if you can. Server is running very slow over there, may be jammed…

Harry Schell on June 26, 2009 at 1:05 PM

For all you saying NO to this bill, think again. This is the best thing that could happen for us.

America’s GDP will probably crater before 2012, the stock market will collapse, and people will be paying 1000 dollars more than they used to for electricity.

Unlike healthcare, THIS is easily done away with. And it’s also perfect to remind Americans, once again, to just say no to the left.

amkun on June 26, 2009 at 1:06 PM

This would be a knife to the heart of the American economy.

Not only would consumers have less disposable income as utility bills skyrocket, but the cost of EVERYTHING will have to increase. It will cost more to produce something, cost more to transport it, and cost more to keep the stores open in which to sell it.
hillbillyjim on June 26, 2009 at 9:17 AM

These are the same “geniuses” who jammed TARPS I & II and the Porkulus Bills down America’s throats. Their day of reckoning can’t come soon enough. We should vote them all out in 2010 & 2012! That includes POTUS!

sarahpalinfan99 on June 26, 2009 at 1:18 PM

For all you saying NO to this bill, think again. This is the best thing that could happen for us.

America’s GDP will probably crater before 2012, the stock market will collapse, and people will be paying 1000 dollars more than they used to for electricity.

Unlike healthcare, THIS is easily done away with. And it’s also perfect to remind Americans, once again, to just say no to the left.

amkun on June 26, 2009 at 1:06 PM

I’d rather we prevented the Libs from destroying the country with disastrous economic policies than let them so we can use that to win future elections.

Sadly it may come to that anyways but if we can prevent it then any and all efforts should be made to do so.

Elections have consequences America. Let this be a lesson for the next time you even consider voting for someone just so you can pat yourself on the back for “making history”.

Yakko77 on June 26, 2009 at 1:19 PM

We’re screwed. It’s going to pass. They’re doing final debate on it right now. No way they’d bring it to the floor if they didn’t have the votes.

t.ferg on June 26, 2009 at 1:21 PM

redstate.com has the names of some who are undecided (weenies) – some #’s are busy, some are full and a couple answered. These are the jerks who have to put a wet finger up to see which way the wind is blowing.

Bambi on June 26, 2009 at 1:21 PM

Who needs WMD to deploy against America when you can watch the left destroy her liberty, ideals, political and economic freedom from within. Congratulations Obama-Ayers-Marx-Pelosi-Reed-Lenin, yer gettin her done! Never thought it would come to pass. But say goodnight, America. It was great while it lasted.

My question: Will there be a rebirth? I doubt it, at least not for a generation or more. It took decades for the Soviet Union to collapse. America will slowly rot as its assets are depleted, private initiative wanes, hopelessness overcomes hope and its moral fiber frays and breaksdown. Where then will the flame of liberty emerge? I think about moving to Texas and lobbying for succession. Anyone game?

george h on June 26, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Yakko77 on June 26, 2009 at 1:19 PM

I say let them spend their precious political capital on the one item on their agenda that is the most harmful but the least transformative.

Obamacare will never go away once passed.
Neither will amnesty.

I would of course prefer nothing gets through and they sit like lame ducks for their entire rein, but then the media will bemoan how evil the republicans are for not letting the poor marxists get even one part of their agenda through, and the public would probably eat it up.

If it has to happen, let it be cap and trade.

amkun on June 26, 2009 at 1:26 PM

Please call, call, call. If you don’t know the # of
your Congressperson, call 202-224-3121 & they will connect you to their office. I spent 5 hours yesterday & am on the phones today. On the “on the fence” critters, I just say that “if in doubt, don’t” Vote NO on Cap & Trade.

bluefox on June 26, 2009 at 1:26 PM

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