Cap and trade vote today, complete with AP spin; Update: 300-page, last-minute amendment; Update: Greenpeace opposes
posted at 8:46 am on June 26, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
In pre-Norman England, King Canute once had his bearers carry him to the sea, where he ordered the ocean to recede. Often this story is told to indict Canute for having delusions of grandeur, but historians usually agree that Canute intended to teach a lesson to his court, whose profuse flattery had annoyed the king to distraction. Why does Canute come to mind today? For some reason, I thought of it when I read the AP’s lead to their coverage of the cap-and-trade bill coming to the House floor for a vote:
A handful of undecided Democrats hold the key to whether the House will confront global warming and begin a shift away from fossil fuels to cleaner sources of energy.
Well, that’s not biased coverage at all, is it? “Whether the House will confront global warming” implies that all debate has ceased on the subject, while in truth it has intensified. Kim Strassel notes the increasing skepticism in today’s Wall Street Journal:
Among the many reasons President Barack Obama and the Democratic majority are so intent on quickly jamming a cap-and-trade system through Congress is because the global warming tide is again shifting. It turns out Al Gore and the United Nations (with an assist from the media), did a little too vociferous a job smearing anyone who disagreed with them as “deniers.” The backlash has brought the scientific debate roaring back to life in Australia, Europe, Japan and even, if less reported, the U.S.
In April, the Polish Academy of Sciences published a document challenging man-made global warming. In the Czech Republic, where President Vaclav Klaus remains a leading skeptic, today only 11% of the population believes humans play a role. In France, President Nicolas Sarkozy wants to tap Claude Allegre to lead the country’s new ministry of industry and innovation. Twenty years ago Mr. Allegre was among the first to trill about man-made global warming, but the geochemist has since recanted. New Zealand last year elected a new government, which immediately suspended the country’s weeks-old cap-and-trade program.
The number of skeptics, far from shrinking, is swelling. Oklahoma Sen. Jim Inhofe now counts more than 700 scientists who disagree with the U.N. — 13 times the number who authored the U.N.’s 2007 climate summary for policymakers. Joanne Simpson, the world’s first woman to receive a Ph.D. in meteorology, expressed relief upon her retirement last year that she was finally free to speak “frankly” of her nonbelief. Dr. Kiminori Itoh, a Japanese environmental physical chemist who contributed to a U.N. climate report, dubs man-made warming “the worst scientific scandal in history.” Norway’s Ivar Giaever, Nobel Prize winner for physics, decries it as the “new religion.” A group of 54 noted physicists, led by Princeton’s Will Happer, is demanding the American Physical Society revise its position that the science is settled. (Both Nature and Science magazines have refused to run the physicists’ open letter.)
The collapse of the “consensus” has been driven by reality. The inconvenient truth is that the earth’s temperatures have flat-lined since 2001, despite growing concentrations of C02. Peer-reviewed research has debunked doomsday scenarios about the polar ice caps, hurricanes, malaria, extinctions, rising oceans. A global financial crisis has politicians taking a harder look at the science that would require them to hamstring their economies to rein in carbon.
Of course, the AP reports on this as part of its coverage, too. This comes in paragarph … er … oh, wait, it doesn’t appear at all. The AP does report on opposition to the bill on its fiscal insanity, but waters that down considerably:
Everyone agrees that under this “cap-and-trade” system the cost of energy is expected to increase as electricity producers and industrial plants pay for increased efficiency, move toward greater use of renewable energy, pay for ways to capture carbon emissions or purchase pollution allowances.
They disagree, however, on how much of the added cost would be passed onto consumers. Democrats argue that much of the cost increase could be offset by other provisions in the bill.
All of the increase will get passed to consumers. Democrats hope to buffer that through targeted subsidies, but the AP neglects to mention that mechanism — because that money also comes from consumers. Business costs always get passed to the purchaser in the form of higher prices, and anyone who argues that they don’t either have no understanding of business and pricing or has a desire to sell snake oil to the gullible.
Cap-and-trade is a tax, one imposed through an artificial scarcity model onto an industry that drives the economy. The AP reports the CBO and EPA cost estimates without mentioning that those predictions only cover the actual mechanical costs of cap-and-trade. They do not predict the economic impact on American families from the loss of economic power as energy becomes more scarce and expensive. This bill will lose the US 2.5% of its GDP each and every year in the years after the first decade of implementation.
King Canute knew better than to believe his advisers when they told him that he was powerful enough to affect ocean levels. Unfortunately, this administration and the Democratic Party don’t have the sense Canute did.
Call your Representative today to tell them not to strangle the American economy. Michelle has the numbers and names to call.
Update: Before today, the bill ran a little over 1,000 pages. Early this morning, Waxman dropped a 300-page amendment into it. Be sure to ask your Representatives if they plan to read either of these before voting on the bill. (via Mary Katharine Ham)
Update II: Greenpeace has come out in opposition to Waxman-Markey, too. However, conservatives should temper their enthusiasm:
“Since the Waxman-Markey bill left the Energy and Commerce committee, yet another fleet of industry lobbysists has weakened the bill even more, and further widened the gap between what Waxman-Markey does and what science demands. As a result, Greenpeace opposes this bill in its current form. We are calling upon Congress to vote against this bill unless substantial measures are taken to strengthen it. Despite President Obama’s assurance that he would enact strong, science-based legislation, we are now watching him put his full support behind a bill that chooses politics over science, elevates industry interests over national interest, and shows the significant limitations of what this Congress believes is possible.
“As it comes to the floor, the Waxman-Markey bill sets emission reduction targets far lower than science demands, then undermines even those targets with massive offsets. The giveaways and preferences in the bill will actually spur a new generation of nuclear and coal-fired power plants to the detriment of real energy solutions. To support such a bill is to abandon the real leadership that is called for at this pivotal moment in history. We simply no longer have the time for legislation this weak. “
In other words, Greenpeace is angry that it doesn’t get more confiscatory and economically suicidal. It makes Waxman-Markey look moderate, which is a bigger problem than a boon for conservatives.










Blowback
Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.
Trackbacks/Pings
Trackback URL
Comments
Comment pages: « Previous 1 2 3 4 5 … 7 Next »
Thanks, but I heard that last fall. I still find it hard to believe so many other tools march in lockstep.
BuckeyeSam on June 26, 2009 at 10:36 AM
And if Americans determine it’s not feasible for us to meet our standard of living requirements due to Cap and Trade, what written order do we write to get a waiver?
Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 10:38 AM
I just called my congressman – Solomon Ortiz (D-TX) in Corpus Christi. As of right now, his aides told me he is OPPOSED to the bill. Cap and Trade will decimate the economy in south Texas and Ortiz knows this.
His job is already on the line. I suspect he’ll hold true to his “no” vote, as much of the refining is done in his district.
pullingmyhairout on June 26, 2009 at 10:38 AM
FIFY.
Until then, urge your states to do the same:
Arizona Looks to Outlaw Global Warming Legislation
Rae on June 26, 2009 at 10:39 AM
I wonder if they are still short on votes. CSPAN says Pelosi won’t bring it to a vote until she has the majority. I hope and pray that the reps are out their converting people away from the dark side.
Thunderstorm129 on June 26, 2009 at 10:40 AM
I just called and emailed.
Got right through, unfortuntely.
Here’s what I was told. My rep is voting yes. These are the reasons given: (I’m not kidding)
-It is best for me and my state
-It will create thousands of new jobs for Oregon
-It will reduce my energy costs
I politely told her that a yes vote from that rep will guarantee a no vote from me.
ORconservative on June 26, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Exactly. Their is no redress for ordinary citizens. This is a direct assault on our liberty.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 26, 2009 at 10:41 AM
I am pretty sure that if ANY conservative ran on that platform they could easily get more than 50% of the votes – probably more like 55%…
And how about –
“Government is the problem”
“The independent business person is best suited to solve the economic crisis”
“The American people have more creativity and energy to solve their own problems. if government would let them”
“What we need is government to support the people, not the people supporting government”
izoneguy on June 26, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Nope. Just skimming. Hypocrisy has a way of highlighting itself.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 26, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Did you see the Rep from Georgia who said his amendment to let states opt out of this was shot down. Think about that. A state is forced by the US government to allow a law that decimates it’s jobs and population. I mean, if ever there were a reason for the 10th amendment.
Thunderstorm129 on June 26, 2009 at 10:42 AM
guy being interviewed a few minutes ago said he thinks Pelosi may squeak it through with one or two votes but that as of last night she was still 8 votes short.
elduende on June 26, 2009 at 10:44 AM
Heh, Texas need to do the same…
Cap & Trade would come down like a hammer on Texas.
The only way the democrats see to slow us down.
They want to destroy our economy and Rick Perry.
This really is a deceleration of war.
izoneguy on June 26, 2009 at 10:44 AM
What will Washington do if we tell to *uckoff??
Hey Washington D.C. *uckoff!!!
izoneguy on June 26, 2009 at 10:45 AM
From Instapumdit.com
The stink surrounding the Pelosi-Waxman-Markey cap-and-tax bill has become vomit-inducing overnight. Representative Waxman has decided to replace the 1091-page bill with a 300-page bill that will be debated for no longer than three hours today. So your elected representatives will have virtually no time to debate the merits of an economy-spanning bill they will not have had time to read. Speaker Pelosi and her sidekick Waxman are displaying nothing more than complete contempt for the democratic process.
If you’re as utterly disgusted by this as I am, you can send a message to Pelosi and her cronies by telling your Congressmen to vote against this bill. You can e-mail them, call them (202-225-3121), or text the National Taxpayers Union on 54608 and they will help.
This is not the “more open government” we were promised.
Keemo on June 26, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Sorry, I meant to type instapundit.com
Keemo on June 26, 2009 at 10:46 AM
If this passes, one cold winter may spawn assaults of another kind.
BuckeyeSam on June 26, 2009 at 10:47 AM
And all oil producing coastal states.
do you know of any Texas congress-critters who are voting “yes” to this? My democratic congressman, Ortiz, is evidently voting no. At the end of the day, he knows who butters his bread…
pullingmyhairout on June 26, 2009 at 10:48 AM
Damn straight skippy!!!! LA has alot to lose too. He wants to take Jindal down with Perry.
Oh how they underestimate us!!
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 10:48 AM
While this bill is an utter sham, it’s far more disconcerting that we allow these people to represent us and they DON’T EVEN READ THE BILLS THEY VOTE ON.
I mean, that’s a Thomas Jefferson-roll-over-in-his-grave kind of thing, no?
Your job is to understand and vote on bills affecting your state’s citizenry. And you don’t even read the bill. That’s like being hired to fly a plane full of people and not even bothering to stay awake for the flight. It’s your fundamental job.
Thunderstorm129 on June 26, 2009 at 10:49 AM
The Dec. of Ind. was an attempt at justifying rebellion. If something has gone wrong again, ultimately history will repeat itself. It will bad for us and ur kids, but hopefully better for their kids.
JiangxiDad on June 26, 2009 at 10:49 AM
Does anyone else think Waxman looks like Bugs Bunny, or is it just me?
pullingmyhairout on June 26, 2009 at 10:49 AM
The only one I can speak with any degree of certainty on is Sheila Jackson Lee (what a surprise).
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 10:49 AM
Here we go. More regulation. The gubmint is taking over your homeowners’ association.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 26, 2009 at 10:50 AM
I remember reading about it and discussing it, but I cannot find that original source online. I did find this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_stagnation_in_the_United_States
Which is borne out by my experience, looking at a lot of election cycles where the vast majority of incumbents are unchallenged totally or just received a token challenge.
It is a very very big problem, convincing a potential good candidate to run against an entrenched incumbent, running for even a minor office is a big hassle, especially getting the donations needed for any kind of credible campaign. I’ve run for city counciler, and you wouldn’t believe the amount of crap I had to go through even to mount a token campaign, never mind a serious challenge.
Rebar on June 26, 2009 at 10:51 AM
It makes me sick that this is not getting the media coverage it deserves..Fox News has turned into MJ news 24/7.
j0 on June 26, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Freedom…..It’s so..yeaterday!
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 10:53 AM
It’s not just you. He’s the fugliest man I have ever seen in my life. He’s a good candidate for plastic surgery if there ever was one. Ah hell, just sew his mouth shut “accidentally” during the surgery. Maybe he can use the same surgeon as Nancy Pelosi! :)
NathanG on June 26, 2009 at 10:53 AM
Are you as unfortunate to live in her district as I am?
ICBM on June 26, 2009 at 10:53 AM
Hah. Read the part about the “green communities” and how a government watchdog commission must approve all the projects.
elduende on June 26, 2009 at 10:53 AM
No thank God. I’ve got Culberson.
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 10:55 AM
And that actually surprises me, considering that Houston is home to most of the refineries in the U.S. At least Culberson is her “vote canceler” but it would be nice if she bucked the democrat machine and did the right thing for a change.
I hope to god she isn’t your congresswoman.
pullingmyhairout on June 26, 2009 at 10:55 AM
Seems both Democrat and Republican callers into CSPAN are all AGAINST this bill, calling it nothing more than a tax on Americans. Funny then, how it’s getting so many yes votes in Congress.
Thunderstorm129 on June 26, 2009 at 10:55 AM
But my business is in her district, so I called anyway.
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 10:56 AM
The more I read about stuff like this, and the coming ‘smart grid’ technology makes me lean toward the fact the government will be subsidizing ‘alternative energy’ sources to be placed on YOUR property, but since they are connected to the ‘smart grid’ and/or government subsidized, will be controlled and taxes by the feds.
It’s coming. Say goodbye to capitalism when this bill becomes law.
cntrlfrk on June 26, 2009 at 10:56 AM
Honestly, if I have to choose, I’d rather this go through for now. Electric bills go up, gas goes up. The public will finally see that BHO is in their wallets. Then maybe healthcare will finally be killed.
This one is way easier to roll back than rationed healthcare.
Ltlgeneral64 on June 26, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Culberson used to be my representative also until I moved south. Now I get the privilege of being represented by Solomon Ortiz – the guy is like a permanent light fixture in congress and just about as effective as one, too.
pullingmyhairout on June 26, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Thelma Drake was a good Representative. Always listened to her constituents and always answered her mail. I was really surprised she lost too. Nye sucks.
darwin on June 26, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Good for you. My dream is that one day she will be defeated, but alas, tis nothing more than a dream.
ICBM on June 26, 2009 at 10:58 AM
He wishes he looked like Bug Bunny.
Cindy Munford on June 26, 2009 at 10:58 AM
Hang in there!! This will devestate Texas and I think all of them will be in jeopardy.
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 11:00 AM
Time to move to Arizona:
petefrt on June 26, 2009 at 11:01 AM
I don’t know. Last time she was given more of a run for her money than I expected. But, you’re probably right. She never my a chance to get in front of the camera’s Remember Ike (pathetic)?
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Holy crap. Cap and trade debate derailed so a democrat can get up and wax on about michael jackson. This is insane.
Thunderstorm129 on June 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM
In VA also. Cantor is my rep. I gave his office @%$% during/about the TARP vote. I let them know, in no uncertain terms, that if he voted for bailout, I would work to put ANYONE in his seat but him. He is a career politician, a job I hold in same esteem as I do a deer tick. There may be a grand scheme that calls for their existence, but in the end, they are just ugly little bloodsuckers. Kick ‘em all out, Dems and Reps. No more Corruptocrats in office.
riverrat10k on June 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM
If you don’t think Obama is above blackmailing AZ by witholding Federal funds for everything and anything, I got a wind powered bridge to sell you.
cntrlfrk on June 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM
.
How about just having ANY Conservative run. No more of these RINOs and Dem-lites.
JeffVader on June 26, 2009 at 11:05 AM
Usually, the only time you see her on TV is when either catastrophe has struck, or something comes up in her “community”. Beyond that, she is useless. Being without power for three weeks after Ike, I at least avoided having to see her opportunistic mug.
ICBM on June 26, 2009 at 11:05 AM
This is all just another argument for term limits.
Yeah, I’m insane but can’t get appointment until 2022
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Bugs is cute. Waxman . . . not so much.
AZCoyote on June 26, 2009 at 11:08 AM
that’s one thing i don’t miss about Houston – Jackson-Lee and her stupid braided hair. Maybe half of Houston will get a brain and finally vote her out of office.
pullingmyhairout on June 26, 2009 at 11:09 AM
On a sidenote, a fella here near Richmond, VA has been trying to put an electricity generating windmill on his property for several months. A small one for his home. Think classic American windmill The county has stonewalled and deferred his case many times. I think they are waiting until the “smart grid” meters are installed so they can tax him/bill him/steal from him.
They have already installed “smart grid” meters as a test in Albemarle county near Charlottesville, VA.
“So sorry, you have reached your daily energy limit and no more will be provided to you at any price. Please try again tomorrow.”
riverrat10k on June 26, 2009 at 11:10 AM
ICBM and HoustonRight: Oh – another person who mugs for the camera as much as Sheila Jackson Lee is that Black Panther Wanna-Be Malcolm XYZ, PDQ or what ever his name is. You know who I’m talking about?
pullingmyhairout on June 26, 2009 at 11:11 AM
I just spent the last several hours going over the “300 page amendment”
I’m a half-arsed speed reader, and even being an ol’ man with limited mental abilities, I can tell you that this “amendment” would put contractors and builders out of business, if enacted and enforced, will make individual home ownership a thing of the past. Even if you went all out to comply with their “green” requirements, and had unlimited funds and could actually get a loan to build a new house, informing the lender (which you most likely wouldn’t have to) that you intended to build to the new “green” code in this amendment, you couldn’t build a house with one room for less than you would now pay for a three bedroom home.
Can you build a new home or anything else and not comply with this new “Green” code? Without a law degree and reading it again with others, I can’t say for sure. But it appears at first glance you could, but would be open for ligation and of course no taxpayer money for any credits or tax breaks and with possible fines and other penalties.
That is not counting the restrictions on where you can build, how you obtain your electricity, water, gas and access to your property. Which if you have to go by the new laws and restrictions on this new amendment, you couldn’t build an outhouse, let alone a residence.
I’m going to bet that this amendment has been months in the making and has just been waiting for the right time to be tacked on to something that the powers in charge think has a chance of passing. I’m also going to state that no one other than the staffers and those that instigated the bill have any idea what is in it, let alone read or considered what is in the bill.
Of course the bill that this amendment is attached to is even more dangerous and will have a disastrous effect on our Nation. So…what are we going to do about it?
I’m going to stay home today and send dozens of e-mails, make dozens of phone calls and demand that my friends all do the same.
What are you going to do???
Papa Ray
West Texas
Papa Ray on June 26, 2009 at 11:12 AM
ahhh, the house just had a moment of silence for MJ. Now THAT is so much more important than cap and trade and will keep constituents happy.
They have lost perspective as have most news channels and journalists. How many people will not know their country is being sold down the river or won’t call their congressman because the networks are not covering this. I’m sure Nancy and company are on some level relishing the distraction.
Miss Molly on June 26, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Yep. Quanell X
ICBM on June 26, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Could you mean the “Q” man. Why that’s just blasphemy.
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 11:14 AM
There is a huge wind farm going up on the Kenedy Ranch in S. Texas. You wouldn’t believe how many environmentalists petitioned against it. This part of Texas is a fly way for migratory birds. There was a lot of hoopla about it, but the wind people and the Kenedy’s won the fight.
I’d love to put up a wind mill on top of my house, but I’m thinking my neighbors wouldn’t be too happy. :)
Corpus Christi regularly has winds that exceed 25 mph.
pullingmyhairout on June 26, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Son of a bitch, can we just get this over with? How many times do I have to say “farewell America”?
RightWinged on June 26, 2009 at 11:15 AM
This MUST be a mistake. Barry said when he campaigned that he wouild make sure that all bills would be on the internet for five days before they would be voted on, so that all Americans could read them. You know; “transparency” and all that.
He wouldn’t LIE!
Star20 on June 26, 2009 at 11:15 AM
LMAO. That’s him!!!!!
pullingmyhairout on June 26, 2009 at 11:15 AM
How sweet. I wonder if they did the same for Princess Di. I hear they both loved children so.
JiangxiDad on June 26, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Papa Ray on June 26, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Well, there are caves along the Pecos River down in Iraan we could live in, like Alley Oop.
TexasJew on June 26, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Part of my response from Sen. Ben Nelson (D) NE in reference to a recent email to him regarding Cap-and-Trade. He speaks amendments added to the Budget resolution to prevent climate change legislation that would harm the economy.
Does anybody know of any suck amendments?
Is this why it’s being sold as a ‘jobs’ bill?
cntrlfrk on June 26, 2009 at 11:17 AM
Sorry, spelling not so good when I’m pissed off.
cntrlfrk on June 26, 2009 at 11:18 AM
That’s the power of incumbency. Even known criminals like John Murtha and William Jefferson get reelected in a landslide. I’m hoping that 2010 may be the year of the dark horse candidates as voters rise up and tell Congress that enough is enough with them spending our great grandkids birthright on ACORN, the UAW, and bogus science.
highhopes on June 26, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Politicians never lie, they just change the reality. It’s one of those things the filthy bastard picked up when he was working as a street thug.
highhopes on June 26, 2009 at 11:20 AM
There is but one word that need be said for those I will vote for: ROLLBACK.
I will not vote for Ratchet Republicans who want to manage ever larger government.
I will not vote for Compassionate Conservatives as they are Progressives who have no end to how ‘good’ government can be.
I will not vote for Rockefeller Republicans.
I will not vote for Teddy Roosevelt Republicans as he started this mess wanting an ‘expansive’ view of federal power.
There are no Democrats worth voting for as they do not support restricting government to protect the weak from being enslaved by government.
I will vote for ROLLBACK for anyone who will stand for it.
Reagan was NOT ‘Chainsaw’ Al Dunlap… I will only vote FOR a chainsaw approach to getting rid of government. Reagan did not do as he promised, stop being necrophiliacs as it is not a savory thing to observe.
No Newts.
No McCains.
No more of ‘bipartisanship’.
No more of ‘managing growth of government wisely’ as I do not want a growing government.
Our government is heading into insolvency and it cannot tax its way into solvency. That simple lesson is lost on the two parties today. Look at all the nice people who voted for larger government, bipartisanship and well managed growing government: they are the problem and the cause, not a solution or meat cleaver.
ROLLBACK.
Or the Tree of Liberty will find new nourishment very soon.
ajacksonian on June 26, 2009 at 11:20 AM
.
This is remincent of what a great French leader once said “LET THEM EAT CAKE”.
JeffVader on June 26, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Her is an example of how politicians play games with our lives and prosperity:
Congressman Perriello’s (D-VA) office told a caller that Congressman Perriello wants there to be enough votes to pass Cap & Trade so he can vote no on it.
ICBM on June 26, 2009 at 11:21 AM
The Dems didn’t count on those pesky plants to respond to the higher CO2 calling.
They are doing their part to keep the Earth healthy.
Let’s make a toast to those ravenous CO2 slayers and wonderful O2 spitters.
We libertarians and conservatives salute the heroic plants of the Earth. Our faith in you to deliver us our precious O2 has NEVER wavered.
This is one constituency I wish could vote. If they could, it would be a conservative golden age.
(and Al Gore would get thrown in a conservative reeducation camp)
Sapwolf on June 26, 2009 at 11:21 AM
Naw, I want to be up high. Longer range and better to see ‘em coming.
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Where can I watch the debates on the floor of the House? C-SPAN’s video isn’t showing anything.
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx
hawksruleva on June 26, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Then fight for Sarah. She is the only one that could possibly have the guts to pull that off.
Sapwolf on June 26, 2009 at 11:23 AM
Solomon Ortiz is conservative compared to the rep I got –
Ruben Hinojosa. He is a total waste, doesn’t even bother responding to any request or call.
I can picture South Padre Island filled with windmills. Killing all the birds.
lonestar1 on June 26, 2009 at 11:23 AM
The husband likes to go to the Republican meetings early morning on Saturday at the Duck Inn when he is there. I forget where they hold them now. It’s a shame about Thelma, I would love to hear the reasoning but can’t seem to find any.
Cindy Munford on June 26, 2009 at 11:23 AM
C’mon, now. What did Bugs Bunny ever do to you?
Apologize forthwith.
hillbillyjim on June 26, 2009 at 11:24 AM
They not gonna have no stinking debate. 300 pages added today.
No wonder Waxman and Pelosi got rid of Rangel chairing this committee. He wouldn’t let this legislation get out of committee, even said it was nothing more than a big tax.
lonestar1 on June 26, 2009 at 11:25 AM
Hang in there!! This will devestate Texas and I think all of them will be in jeopardy.
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 11:00 AM
No this might be the catalyst that starts a chain reaction to secede. We all need a plan b and I have to admit my faith lies in Texas.
LSUMama on June 26, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Same here. I was polled by his people the other day, and they kept insisting that he’s a Blue Dog – but I have my doubts.
He doesn’t respond to my mail either, but neither did Drake. To hell with both of them.
Anna on June 26, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Naw, I want to be up high. Longer range and better to see ‘em coming.
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Oh, these fit the bill, perfectly..
These are 200-300′ high along the cliffs and there are plenty of rattlesnakes to keep out unwanted vermin.
Unfortunately, you may have to share some loft space with a grouchy mountain lion or two.
TexasJew on June 26, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Agreed.
hawksruleva on June 26, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Well, looks like your faith in Republicans is about to pay off again.
Let’s hope I’m wrong and this monstrosity fails. America is the only hope of thwarting the coming political beast.
True_King on June 26, 2009 at 11:28 AM
South Padre is such a tourist destination that Hinojosa wouldn’t dare. Have you heard about the Ortiz scandal? Go to the Caller Times and read up. He’s threatened to pull earmarked money from Ingleside if they don’t put his brother back on the board of the development committee. It’s good and juicy.
pullingmyhairout on June 26, 2009 at 11:29 AM
I’m disappointed I can’t call my Rep and urge a NO vote.
My rep is Tom McClintock. He’s like a mind-reader!
But I did drop a few notes to our beloved Senators, Feinstein and Boxer. I’m sure that they’ll listen to our opinions with open minds!
juanito on June 26, 2009 at 11:29 AM
She only lost because people were voting against Bush, and being a Republican, she got linked to him. It was a very close election, too, and Nye knows this. He tries awfully hard to suck up to the vets in the area.
Anna on June 26, 2009 at 11:29 AM
I am so there!!!
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 11:29 AM
lonestar1 on June 26, 2009 at 11:23 AM
We have Sylvestre Reyes – he’s hopeless.
Nice man, but thick as a brick. Of course, he’s the head of the House “Intelligence” Committee.
TexasJew on June 26, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Reading a book on the Constitutional Convention right now. The Founders thought it important that legislators be “returned to the citizenry”.
hawksruleva on June 26, 2009 at 11:31 AM
So this morning I got into an argument with a coworker about the damage that this bill will cause if it passes, and she actually said to me that the economy can’t get any worse than it is.
?!?!?!?!?!
All of you economic brains out there, I need some help: can you please give me either your prediction as to how and at what pace this tax will harm the economy, or point me to articles that do the same? When will it take effect, how quickly will the effects become evident, and how will hyperinflation (when it hits) compound the effects?
Thanks, and I hope your coworkers are brighter than mine.
Animator Girl on June 26, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Don’t worry. Between the rednecks and the cajuns they don’t have a chance! lol.
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 11:32 AM
I am so there!!!
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 11:29 AM
And, as an added bonus, you’re in a 2 billion-barrel shallow oilfield (The Yates Field), where you can dig down as little as 20 feet and find oil!
Lots available now!
TexasJew on June 26, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Does anyone else think Waxman looks like Bugs Bunny, or is it just me?
pullingmyhairout on June 26, 2009 at 10:49 AM
No No NO Bugs Bunny is a Patriot.
Waxman is a P-I-G HOG.
mkm19602000 on June 26, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Have you heard about the Ortiz scandal? Go to the Caller Times and read up. He’s threatened to pull earmarked money from Ingleside if they don’t put his brother back on the board of the development committee. It’s good and juicy.
pullingmyhairout on June 26, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Ah, South Texas – it’s like Mexico, but more so!
TexasJew on June 26, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Waxman looks like that character actor than played one of the grandfathers in “7th Heaven”, except Waxman looks like he’s wearing fake Halloween “Bubba” teeth.
The Congressional phone lines need to be melted down today.
kingsjester on June 26, 2009 at 11:34 AM
Scam, scam, scam!!!!!
GFW on June 26, 2009 at 11:35 AM
I emailed Vic (I heart Obama) Snyder since I can’t get thru on the phones. I’m glad to see that two AR reps are voting NO, but Snyder worships at the O kool-ade temple, so chances are the sucker will vote yes.
brdchris1 on June 26, 2009 at 11:35 AM
I remember when Pelosi named him chair of the intel committee and at an interview he did not know the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite. Pathetic.
elduende on June 26, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Comment pages: « Previous 1 2 3 4 5 … 7 Next »