Cap and trade vote today, complete with AP spin; Update: 300-page, last-minute amendment; Update: Greenpeace opposes

posted at 8:46 am on June 26, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

In pre-Norman England, King Canute once had his bearers carry him to the sea, where he ordered the ocean to recede.  Often this story is told to indict Canute for having delusions of grandeur, but historians usually agree that Canute intended to teach a lesson to his court, whose profuse flattery had annoyed the king to distraction.  Why does Canute come to mind today?  For some reason, I thought of it when I read the AP’s lead to their coverage of the cap-and-trade bill coming to the House floor for a vote:

A handful of undecided Democrats hold the key to whether the House will confront global warming and begin a shift away from fossil fuels to cleaner sources of energy.

Well, that’s not biased coverage at all, is it?  “Whether the House will confront global warming” implies that all debate has ceased on the subject, while in truth it has intensified.  Kim Strassel notes the increasing skepticism in today’s Wall Street Journal:

Among the many reasons President Barack Obama and the Democratic majority are so intent on quickly jamming a cap-and-trade system through Congress is because the global warming tide is again shifting. It turns out Al Gore and the United Nations (with an assist from the media), did a little too vociferous a job smearing anyone who disagreed with them as “deniers.” The backlash has brought the scientific debate roaring back to life in Australia, Europe, Japan and even, if less reported, the U.S.

In April, the Polish Academy of Sciences published a document challenging man-made global warming. In the Czech Republic, where President Vaclav Klaus remains a leading skeptic, today only 11% of the population believes humans play a role. In France, President Nicolas Sarkozy wants to tap Claude Allegre to lead the country’s new ministry of industry and innovation. Twenty years ago Mr. Allegre was among the first to trill about man-made global warming, but the geochemist has since recanted. New Zealand last year elected a new government, which immediately suspended the country’s weeks-old cap-and-trade program.

The number of skeptics, far from shrinking, is swelling. Oklahoma Sen. Jim Inhofe now counts more than 700 scientists who disagree with the U.N. — 13 times the number who authored the U.N.’s 2007 climate summary for policymakers. Joanne Simpson, the world’s first woman to receive a Ph.D. in meteorology, expressed relief upon her retirement last year that she was finally free to speak “frankly” of her nonbelief. Dr. Kiminori Itoh, a Japanese environmental physical chemist who contributed to a U.N. climate report, dubs man-made warming “the worst scientific scandal in history.” Norway’s Ivar Giaever, Nobel Prize winner for physics, decries it as the “new religion.” A group of 54 noted physicists, led by Princeton’s Will Happer, is demanding the American Physical Society revise its position that the science is settled. (Both Nature and Science magazines have refused to run the physicists’ open letter.)

The collapse of the “consensus” has been driven by reality. The inconvenient truth is that the earth’s temperatures have flat-lined since 2001, despite growing concentrations of C02. Peer-reviewed research has debunked doomsday scenarios about the polar ice caps, hurricanes, malaria, extinctions, rising oceans. A global financial crisis has politicians taking a harder look at the science that would require them to hamstring their economies to rein in carbon.

Of course, the AP reports on this as part of its coverage, too.  This comes in paragarph … er … oh, wait, it doesn’t appear at all.  The AP does report on opposition to the bill on its fiscal insanity, but waters that down considerably:

Everyone agrees that under this “cap-and-trade” system the cost of energy is expected to increase as electricity producers and industrial plants pay for increased efficiency, move toward greater use of renewable energy, pay for ways to capture carbon emissions or purchase pollution allowances.

They disagree, however, on how much of the added cost would be passed onto consumers. Democrats argue that much of the cost increase could be offset by other provisions in the bill.

All of the increase will get passed to consumers.  Democrats hope to buffer that through targeted subsidies, but the AP neglects to mention that mechanism — because that money also comes from consumers.  Business costs always get passed to the purchaser in the form of higher prices, and anyone who argues that they don’t either have no understanding of business and pricing or has a desire to sell snake oil to the gullible.

Cap-and-trade is a tax, one imposed through an artificial scarcity model onto an industry that drives the economy.  The AP reports the CBO and EPA cost estimates without mentioning that those predictions only cover the actual mechanical costs of cap-and-trade.  They do not predict the economic impact on American families from the loss of economic power as energy becomes more scarce and expensive.  This bill will lose the US 2.5% of its GDP each and every year in the years after the first decade of implementation.

King Canute knew better than to believe his advisers when they told him that he was powerful enough to affect ocean levels.  Unfortunately, this administration and the Democratic Party don’t have the sense Canute did.

Call your Representative today to tell them not to strangle the American economy.  Michelle has the numbers and names to call.

Update: Before today, the bill ran a little over 1,000 pages.  Early this morning, Waxman dropped a 300-page amendment into it.  Be sure to ask your Representatives if they plan to read either of these before voting on the bill. (via Mary Katharine Ham)

Update II: Greenpeace has come out in opposition to Waxman-Markey, too.  However, conservatives should temper their enthusiasm:

“Since the Waxman-Markey bill left the Energy and Commerce committee, yet another fleet of industry lobbysists has weakened the bill even more, and further widened the gap between what Waxman-Markey does and what science demands. As a result, Greenpeace opposes this bill in its current form. We are calling upon Congress to vote against this bill unless substantial measures are taken to strengthen it. Despite President Obama’s assurance that he would enact strong, science-based legislation, we are now watching him put his full support behind a bill that chooses politics over science, elevates industry interests over national interest, and shows the significant limitations of what this Congress believes is possible.

“As it comes to the floor, the Waxman-Markey bill sets emission reduction targets far lower than science demands, then undermines even those targets with massive offsets. The giveaways and preferences in the bill will actually spur a new generation of nuclear and coal-fired power plants to the detriment of real energy solutions. To support such a bill is to abandon the real leadership that is called for at this pivotal moment in history.  We simply no longer have the time for legislation this weak. “

In other words, Greenpeace is angry that it doesn’t get more confiscatory and economically suicidal.  It makes Waxman-Markey look moderate, which is a bigger problem than a boon for conservatives.

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Huey Pierce Long, Jr. (August 30, 1893 – September 10, 1935), nicknamed The Kingfish, was an American politician from the U.S. state of Louisiana. A Democrat, he was noted for his radical populist policies. He served as the Governor of Louisiana from 1928 to 1932

Long created the Share Our Wealth program in 1934, with the motto “Every Man a King,” proposing new wealth redistribution measures in the form of a net asset tax on corporations and individuals to curb the poverty and crime resulting from the Great Depression. To stimulate the economy, Long advocated federal spending on public works, public education, old-age pensions and other social programs.

Uniblogger on June 26, 2009 at 9:43 AM

This is no big deal, really.

I am close to perfecting a method to produce toothbrushes, asphalt shingles and aspirin from “wind”; we won’t need oil any longer after I get the patent.

Bishop on June 26, 2009 at 9:44 AM

If they pass this, is there any way the Republicans can overturn it in 2010? Or is it a lost cause after that?

I mean, the Republicans saw the headlights, as is visible by them trying to put in safety measures – the 5.00 gas repeal, the 10% energy hike in 2009 cause for repeal, etc but the democrats pulled those.

Someone knows what this is going to do. When it does what they know it will do, will more get on board to repeal? Can they?

Thunderstorm129 on June 26, 2009 at 9:45 AM

In pre-Norman England, King Canute once had his bearers carry him to the sea, where he ordered the ocean to recede. Often this story is told to indict Canute for having delusions of grandeur, but historians usually agree that Canute intended to teach a lesson to his court, whose profuse flattery had annoyed the king to distraction.

Canute could have persuaded his “bearers” he COULD make the ocean recede if he arrived at high tide, and made sure nobody saw the sea come back in 12 hours later.

Didn’t Obama say during his campaign that this would be the time that “we” would stop the oceans from rising?

There had been a “tide” of rising temperatures during the 1980′s and 1990′s, up to a peak in 1998, which led Al Gore to lead the “global warming” scare, although he did little about it when he was Vice President. He was too busy balancing the Federal budget with taxes on the dot-com boom from the Internet that “he hand invented”.

But the temperature “tide” has ebbed again–global average temperatures dropped from 1998 to 2000, plateau’ed until about 2006, then dropped sharply in 2007-2008. Why doesn’t Al Gore get on his soap-box like Canute and say that HE stopped global warming back in 1998?

Well, maybe because he wouldn’t make money selling carbon credits. No crisis should go to waste, right? You’ve got to create a crisis to sell the solution! It’s all about money!

Steve Z on June 26, 2009 at 9:45 AM

The whole Global Warming, Climate Change, ideology is nothing more than a canard, created to cause us to doubt our Creator. Trying to elevate mankind to the status of a god, destroying capitalism, and our standard of living is an evil that has to be eradicated. This single issue is the basis for so many related obstacles in the pursuit of freedom and liberty.

fourdeucer on June 26, 2009 at 9:45 AM

The next Conservative who runs must have the word REPEAL ALL THE LAWS of this 111th congress bearing anti-capitalism legislation on the books in their platform for reform.

Americannodash on June 26, 2009 at 9:46 AM

i wrote my congressman, Perriello, 5th district, Virginia. he is a Dem. but he only won his seat by about 700 votes in ‘08 so he might be a squishy dem. but part of his district is uber lib.

kelley in virginia on June 26, 2009 at 8:53 AM

Hey neighbor! I wrote and called him this morning too. I’m not confident however, he’s a hard left guy afaik. Good news is that Virgil Goode should easily win back this seat in 2010.

BierManVA on June 26, 2009 at 9:46 AM

The government is now our enemy.

TexasJew on June 26, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Act accordingly.

JiangxiDad on June 26, 2009 at 9:46 AM

I’ve called my Rep three times. As of this morning they still aren’t sure how he is voting. Do they just tell us that to blow us off?

ctmom on June 26, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Yes.

What did you think? That they were accountable? How’s that been working out for you?

mr.blacksheep on June 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Sorry to get specific, but I’m from greater Cincinnati. My rep (Jean Schmidt-R) is in the no category. Unfortunately, in the Obama wave, a decent GOPer (Steve Chabot) got swept out in the Obama wave in the neighboring district–largely the blue collar area of Cincinnati–by a younger tool named Steve Driehaus. The AFP lists him as leaning yes.

Anyone from the district who can light him up? If not, I hope some GOP lights him up for this vote. I have to believe that a winter of utility bills that will kill his blue-collar constituents will fix his wagon.

BuckeyeSam on June 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM

I just downloaded the 310 page ammendment. Who are these idiots trying to kid?
Oh, yeah, us.

What a bunch of gobbly guk. Defining a bio mass? WTF? the only bio mass the idiots in Congress know about is in their toilets every morning. Seriously. They want us to believe they are experts on the environment today and healthcare tomorrow. The only thing they are expert in is taking my money and making it their own.

ORconservative on June 26, 2009 at 9:47 AM

Sorry about the previous posting. It got sent before I was through editing it. The information above was from Wickipedia.

I was going to quote it as a preface to mentioning that Huey was famous for running into the legislature, holding a new bill aloft in his hand and demanding that it be voted upon and passed immediately.

Uniblogger on June 26, 2009 at 9:48 AM

biermanVA: several Virginians on HotAir. along with the task of keeping our Republic intact, we also have to take back our Commonwealth this November.

keep the faith. i live in kenbridge. pop. 1,100.

kelley in virginia on June 26, 2009 at 9:49 AM

OT – anyone catch any info on the Atlanta tea party being shut down 7/04 due to some stupid parking issue? PLEASE don’t tell me the govt is now moving to stop free assembly?

Ris4victory on June 26, 2009 at 9:51 AM

you would think the reps from the really cold states (the Dakotas, Minnesota, etc) or from the really hot states (LA, NM, Florida, Miss, Ala, CA) would understand that jacking up the cost of energy would devastate their areas financially.

i understand it & i live in a fairly temperate area. duh.

kelley in virginia on June 26, 2009 at 9:51 AM

If cap and trade passes and the climate continues to cool over the next couple of decades, the Left will take credit for it.
“See? It works!”

whitetop on June 26, 2009 at 9:52 AM

The next Conservative who runs must have the word REPEAL ALL THE LAWS of this 111th congress bearing anti-capitalism legislation on the books in their platform for reform.

Americannodash on June 26, 2009 at 9:46 AM

When has that ever happened? They get power give your money away, and then when the GOP regains power they are unable to remove the entitlement programs. It’s been pretty consistent, and will remain that way until the whole system collapses.

DFCtomm on June 26, 2009 at 9:52 AM

US cap n trade map

See who’s the pitcher, and who’s the catcher.

JiangxiDad on June 26, 2009 at 9:53 AM

The whole Global Warming, Climate Change, ideology is nothing more than a canard, created to cause us to doubt our Creator. Trying to elevate mankind to the status of a god, destroying capitalism, and our standard of living is an evil that has to be eradicated. This single issue is the basis for so many related obstacles in the pursuit of freedom and liberty.

fourdeucer on June 26, 2009 at 9:45 AM

Why did God give us oil, natural gas, and coal? Fine, explore wind and solar. But why kill us economically while the feds subsidize energy “sources” that are largely ineffective?

Frankly, our sitting on all our natural resources reminds me of the clown with one talent in the Parable of the Talents. Can anyone imagine where we might be if the feds were opening Anwar, offshore drilling, and building nuclear power plants.

This is ridiculous. Liberals adamantly believe in American mediocrity.

BuckeyeSam on June 26, 2009 at 9:53 AM

I can’t afford too much more Hope’n Change…especially after Cap’n Trade.

Realistically, I fully expect this bill and the EPA’s new mercury rule to shut my plant down. That will devistate the 122 families that rely on these jobs and is the only thing keeping our town and the area we live in alive. Most of the guys that work for me are displaced loggers that saw their last jobs taken away by the Spotted Owl. But, we’re just cracker-a$$ teabagging rednecks here in rural America that Barry simply can’t be bothered with.

Wyznowski on June 26, 2009 at 9:53 AM

My Congressman is Lamar Smith, so I’m confident he’ll vote “nay” on this pile of Waxman crap.

This is insanity. If we truly wanted to kill our economy, we couldn’t elect better people to do it than the absolutely worthless, corrupt and incompent Congressional Democrats.

Waxman should be forced to emigrate for even proposing this idiocy.

NoDonkey on June 26, 2009 at 9:54 AM

But the good news is, the GOP is planning to take out full page ads in major newpapers to list the names of everyone who votes for this travesty!

Oh wait, I had bad info, let me see now…

Oh yeah. Um, the GOP isn’t planning anything.

jeff_from_mpls on June 26, 2009 at 9:13 AM

I received three emails yesterday from the RNC asking for money. When the h-ll are they going to do something and not just send an email. It’s honestly pissing me off.

txag92 on June 26, 2009 at 9:55 AM

You know what else is going to hurt? China re-asserting it’s desire for a new world reserve currency:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a5z7pjiZoYpg

BPD on June 26, 2009 at 9:55 AM

A vote for this nonsense, is tantamount to submitting your resignation. 2010 will expose how “out of touch” these people are with the average person.

marklmail on June 26, 2009 at 9:56 AM

I’ve already written my idiot senators (Boxer, Feinstein) and suggested that they set aside some of their fleecings to build Debtors Prisons, since I, and I suspect many others, intend to distribute hard-earned income in this order: Food, Housing, Bills….and if here is any left I’ll pay my federal income taxes.

Patrick S on June 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM

The next Conservative who runs must have the word REPEAL ALL THE LAWS of this 111th congress bearing anti-capitalism legislation on the books in their platform for reform.

Americannodash on June 26, 2009 at 9:46 AM

Scrap and Trade the Liberal Congress in 2010.
Scrap and Trade Obama in 2012.

Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Liberals adamantly believe in American mediocrity.

BuckeyeSam on June 26, 2009 at 9:53 AM

You can’t save the rest of the world if you allow your fellow Americans to be more successful than the rest of the world. It’s a good thing I’m not President.

JiangxiDad on June 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

Is it time for another Declaration of Independence? Seems to me that a few of the grievances in that original document can be applied to this current government…

Some of the ones that come to mind are:
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

Wolftech on June 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM

you would think the reps from the really cold states (the Dakotas, Minnesota, etc) or from the really hot states (LA, NM, Florida, Miss, Ala, CA) would understand that jacking up the cost of energy would devastate their areas financially.

i understand it & i live in a fairly temperate area. duh.

kelley in virginia on June 26, 2009 at 9:51 AM

It’s been in the 100s in Texas and will continue to be so for the foreseeable future. C&T is going to kill those who can’t afford the new energy tax.

txag92 on June 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM

JiangxiDad on June 26, 2009 at 9:53 AM

thanks a bunch!!! I printed it to pass out.

I guess getting a reach around with this bill is out of the question.

HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 9:59 AM

I just want to know how much these dopes are getting paid to push this anti-taxpayer cap’n'trade s##t through.

n0doz on June 26, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Wolftech on June 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Just try to reach a Rep or Senator these days. If you don’t live in the district or state, ur out of luck. Even then, mailboxes are routinely “full,” answering machines are “full.”

These senators and reps sit on committees that affect ALL of us. I have every right to contact a rep or senator who is a committee chairman voting on something that affects me. But my email doesn’t go through.

I’d say our own legislature is now also violating the right to petition.

JiangxiDad on June 26, 2009 at 10:00 AM

woo hoo! i just got an email from my Congressman (Perriello, D, 5thCD, Va.). he said representing our district is an honor & he appreciates me writing him about my concerns.

he cares!

kelley in virginia on June 26, 2009 at 10:00 AM

we have to go “sit in” at their local offices. that would get their attention.

kelley in virginia on June 26, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Why did God give us oil, natural gas, and coal? Fine, explore wind and solar. But why kill us economically while the feds subsidize energy “sources” that are largely ineffective?

Frankly, our sitting on all our natural resources reminds me of the clown with one talent in the Parable of the Talents. Can anyone imagine where we might be if the feds were opening Anwar, offshore drilling, and building nuclear power plants.

This is ridiculous. Liberals adamantly believe in American mediocrity.

BuckeyeSam on June 26, 2009 at 9:53 AM
Imagine our Creator, after blessing us with every means to
improve our quality of life, we use a hoax to give birth to
enviromental extremists, animal rights extremists, and over population extremists. Now our elected representatives fall for this abomination.

fourdeucer on June 26, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Emailed all of my Indiana representatives except for the Democrat, er, Corruptocrat Pete Visclosky.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 26, 2009 at 10:02 AM

BuckeyeSam on June 26, 2009at 9:53 AM

I hear on Cavuto yesterday that Pelosi is heavily invested in a “green” company that would profit immensly from this bill. Anymore questions?

HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Why are people concerned about only calling the representative for their respective district?

If your congressman can honestly answer that he/she receives ZERO campaign contributions from outside the district, THEN I’ll care.

No, I’ll go ahead and call any damn congressman I want, thank you.

A voice of reason on June 26, 2009 at 10:03 AM

I hear on Cavuto yesterday that Pelosi is heavily invested in a “green” company that would profit immensly from this bill. Anymore questions?

HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 10:02 AM

I think San Fran Nan (or her husband) is invested in a venture with that disgrace T. Boone Pickens. The Boss wrote a column about it.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 26, 2009 at 10:04 AM

we have to go “sit in” at their local offices. that would get their attention.
kelley in virginia on June 26, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Making the handgun legally concealed under your shirt as obvious as possible would get their attention even more.

Bishop on June 26, 2009 at 10:04 AM

I hear on Cavuto yesterday that Pelosi is heavily invested in a “green” company that would profit immensly from this bill. Anymore questions?

HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Pelosi invested in a company headed by T. Boone Pickens.

ICBM on June 26, 2009 at 10:05 AM

woo hoo! i just got an email from my Congressman (Perriello, D, 5thCD, Va.). he said representing our district is an honor & he appreciates me writing him about my concerns.

he cares!

kelley in virginia on June 26, 2009 at 10:00 AM

And? That he’ll go ahead and vote for the bill anyway?

scalleywag on June 26, 2009 at 10:05 AM

he cares!

kelley in virginia on June 26, 2009 at 10:00 AM

If by caring you mean a twentysomething staffer cut and pasted response 4G into an e-mail for ya, then yes he cares! ;-0

highhopes on June 26, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 26, 2009 at 10:04 AM

Now that you mention it I do remember. T Boone, now there’s a man thats gone completely senile.

Thanks

HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Pelosi invested in a company headed by T. Boone Pickens.

ICBM on June 26, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Please don’t mention that vile woman in here…it makes my blood pressure go thru the roof. :)

scalleywag on June 26, 2009 at 10:07 AM

HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 9:59 AM

According to the map, I suppose I have to thank you, living in NY as I do. You should visit here sometime. Luckily, we make nothing, so apparently there’s little industrial energy use to punish us for. But they’re making the little guy suffer here too. Gas is pushing 3.00, there’s a brand new sales tax on any home energy consumed (heating oil, natural gas, propane, firewood, electricity, etc.), and since NYC is going bankrupt, again, they’ve decided to tax the surrounding suburban counties’ commuters who work within the city limits. Mind you, we don’t get to vote for mayor, we only get to pay tax to him.

But we have our light side too. NY Dem State Senator calls our Dem. Governor Paterson a “coke-sniffing, staff-banging governor” http://is.gd/1dFMm

JiangxiDad on June 26, 2009 at 10:07 AM

When has that ever happened? They get power give your money away, and then when the GOP regains power they are unable to remove the entitlement programs. It’s been pretty consistent, and will remain that way until the whole system collapses.

DFCtomm on June 26, 2009 at 9:52 AM

So is Al Gore. Now, in my perfect world, all people in government having any say or vote on any issue would be required to sell all assets in all companies and all holdings before taking office. They wouldn’t be allowed to purchase any stock, bond, commodity, etc while anywhere near the US capital. That way, we don’t have conflicts. You want to serve the US? Well, you’ll do so because you want to, not because you might profit. That weeds out the Pelosi’s of the world. Real patriots would step up.

/rant off

Thunderstorm129 on June 26, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Pretty tough to realize I’m witnessing the takeover of my nation by a stealthy array of tyrannical “do-gooders”. I just hope my kids can one day be proud of their Dad for joining the others who decided to make a stand on their behalf.

Bishop on June 26, 2009 at 10:08 AM

A vote for this nonsense, is tantamount to submitting your resignation. 2010 will expose how “out of touch” these people are with the average person.

marklmail on June 26, 2009 at 9:56 AM

The sad truth is, 90%+ of Congressional incumbents run unopposed.

Rebar on June 26, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Whether this monstrosity passes or not, one thing is clear … the biggest threat to the people of the United States is the government itself.

Our own government has become the enemy.

darwin on June 26, 2009 at 10:09 AM

“New Zealand last year elected a new government, which immediately suspended the country’s weeks-old cap-and-trade program.”

Okay, so if we can just wake people up and throw the Democratic majority out in 2010, it’s possible we can repeal this awful, economy-killing legislation before too much harm is done. I have a bad feeling it is going to pass. It’s unbelievable to me that people are just going to sit by and let this legislation become law, when it is guaranteed to hurt our country, and won’t help anyone but those who are in a position to profit at taxpayer expense.

mbs on June 26, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Do they want our money or do they want us dead?

Thunderstorm129 on June 26, 2009 at 10:09 AM

I’ve been reading parts of the 310 page “amendment” and I’ll tell you my first impression is fear. I have not seen the entire bill but from what I’ve seen this bill effectively moves our country from a market economy to a command economy run by the government.

Have no doubt that 2 things are going to happen if this becomes law; the first is that our cost of living will go off the chart and the economy will implode; the second is the massive loss of freedom that will occur after this enormous power grab. We will become a planned economy if this passes both houses of the legislature. This straight up socialism.

elduende on June 26, 2009 at 10:10 AM

What’s even more maddening is that nobody on the hill is going to sit down and read a 1300 page bill before they sign it. And even if they did, they probably wouldn’t understand what it contained. we’re doomed. Doomed, I tell you. The Queen of lunacy is going to have this country so f’d up by the time she finally gets out of here it’s going to take a master magician to fix it.

scalleywag on June 26, 2009 at 10:10 AM

I still have to wonder how long it will be until “climate change” or “endangerment” is universally accepted as true science, and those who dissent are labeled as “enemies of science”. It certainly wouldn’t be the first time we’ve been down this road.

Send_Me on June 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Our own government has become the enemy.

darwin on June 26, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Plan and act accordingly.

JiangxiDad on June 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Hey folks, it’s not about the so called global warming crises, its not about wealth redistribution, its not about kum by yay feel good socialist bs -its about retention of power, wealth, etc. in the hands of a select few INCLUDING THE CORRUPT REPUBLICANS. No Republican will be able to repeal this crap because they are not interested in doing so. They are interested in themselves. Ideology is meaningless in the time of petty tyrants attempting to maintain themselves. 2010 may be too late.

georgeofthedesert on June 26, 2009 at 10:12 AM

I was a bit surprised to see Heath Shuler on the leaning yes list…I guess he ate dirt from one too many sacks at some point….

ladyingray on June 26, 2009 at 10:12 AM

I’ve called my Rep three times. As of this morning they still aren’t sure how he is voting. Do they just tell us that to blow us off?

ctmom on June 26, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Yes and no. The Congressional staffers that answer the phones probably don’t know because that isn’t their job. Their job is to play gatekeeper to ensure that constituents feel like their message is getting through when in reality your voice doesn’t matter all that much to the Congressman until he/she is up for reelection.

highhopes on June 26, 2009 at 10:12 AM

In addition to this scam to rape the American people of their hard earned wages, and the ploy to kill off the elderly and run our lives through socialist unhealthy care … the criminal Obama wants to give nearly a trillion dollars of our money to the UN through the “Global Poverty Act” he sponsored.

Rise up.

darwin on June 26, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Plan and act accordingly.

JiangxiDad on June 26, 2009 at 10:11 AM

I have, and am … others must do the same.

darwin on June 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM

New Zealand last year elected a new government, which immediately suspended the country’s weeks-old cap-and-trade program.

Let’s work for the same here in 2010.

OT – anyone catch any info on the Atlanta tea party being shut down 7/04 due to some stupid parking issue? PLEASE don’t tell me the govt is now moving to stop free assembly?

Ris4victory on June 26, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Instapundit had an article on it a couple days ago. IIRC, the property where the Atlanta tea party was scheduled (for months) to be held is adjacent to a shopping mall. There are some easements and other agreements between the property owner and the mall owners that require the property owner to obtain the mall owners’ permission for certain types of events. The mall owners (all of whom are big Democratic donors) decided to refuse permission for the tea party event, which is why it had to be cancelled. It wasn’t about parking, it was really about politics.

AZCoyote on June 26, 2009 at 10:14 AM

The vote on communism.

Johan Klaus on June 26, 2009 at 10:14 AM

JiangxiDad on June 26, 2009 at 10:07 AM

God help you. I know most of your state is fairly conservative. Only the Concentrated areas have manage to put those in office that are taking your state the way of Cali. As you know we are getting more and more barriers down here with regard to drilling esp in the gulf.

Contrary to what Mr. O’Reilly thinks, speculators or only a small part of the increases on oil.

P.S. Always enjoy your posts. You’s had me laughing out loud while refocusing my thought. That’s it for the butt kissing. :)

HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 10:15 AM

kelley in virgina: I’m just down the road from you in Richmond. I guess I’m fortunate to have Cantor as my Congresscritter although I’m continually floored by the lack of leadership from the GOP. I mean something as simple as taking an ad out in the local paper, making the sheeple aware that largest tax increase in this country’s is about to be passed is a simple thing to do. Yet we get nothing from these guys….at least they are consistent in their incompetence. After this bill passes we’ll all be consistently poor.

TheAdmiral on June 26, 2009 at 10:15 AM

I have, and am … others must do the same.

darwin on June 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM

I’m trying to figure out how to do that, day by day. But I’m a fast learner, so should be able to help thwart the bastards.

JiangxiDad on June 26, 2009 at 10:16 AM

Congress actually READ a bill before they pass it? Surely you jest. These are the same individuals who passed a “Stimulus Bill” without reading it. And you see where that got us. If this bill passes, I would hope it would be with ZERO Republican support. Just one more nail in the Democratic coffin of 2010.

GarandFan on June 26, 2009 at 10:17 AM

A vote for this nonsense, is tantamount to submitting your resignation. 2010 will expose how “out of touch” these people are with the average person.

marklmail on June 26, 2009 at 9:56 AM

The sad truth is, 90%+ of Congressional incumbents run unopposed.

Rebar on June 26, 2009 at 10:09 AM

*

That number will go WAAAAYYY down. People are pissed and motivated nationwide.

marklmail on June 26, 2009 at 10:17 AM

From the 300 page amendment:

“A central procurement State that makes alternative compliance payments under this subsection shall certify to the Commission that, in using such payments in accordance with paragraph (3), it has, to the extent practicable, maximized the level of deployment of renewable electricity generation (measured in megawatt hours) and electricity savings per dollar that are achieved through such expenditures.”

Huh?

I think they decided that if the filesize is 10MB or less, they don’t have to read it. Yea, that’s the ticket.

Mr_Magoo on June 26, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Folks, this cannot get repealed in 2010 unless we get veto-proof majorities in both House and Senate, which seems unlikely at this point.

Realistically, we can get the House in 2010 to at least stop the further destruction on America, then work hard for 2012 to roll back these abominations.

Rebar on June 26, 2009 at 10:18 AM

The sad truth is, 90%+ of Congressional incumbents run unopposed.
Rebar on June 26, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Is that true? Wow! Seriously. I had no idea it was that high. We need to get some people in th game if the incumbent is a Dem.

Mr_Magoo on June 26, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Antoher Virginian – I’m in Bob Goodlatte country, so I’ll be represented correctly.

It’s significant that the Cap & Trade bill is being promoted as a jobs bill and a national security bill. Everybody knows that if we try to pass a consumer tax to “save the planet” people will say “let’s save my job first”.

But the jobs benefit is actually a net job loss. And the national security issue is hogwash. The government would have a lot more to gain by opening up our oil and natural gas reserves. They could make billions, maybe trillions, off those leases.

If they want to encourage research, they can throw some money at it. But don’t push us toward shutting down our coal plants when there’s no alternative yet available.

hawksruleva on June 26, 2009 at 10:20 AM

And they are giving the GOP 3 hours to debate after stripping all 224 GOP amendments from the bill. Of course, the 300 plus pages dropped into the bill at 3:00 AM are all good stuff. No need to worry. Vote now! Vote now!

Just like the stimulus bill. No debate, no reading it. Nothing.

This country is seriously ill. When we can even debate these bills, we are screwed. The worst thing that ever happened to this country is the democratic control of all three branches of government. It was a green light to do whatever the hell they want and they are doing it folks.

I am so sad for America.

Thunderstorm129 on June 26, 2009 at 10:20 AM

We need to get some people in th game if the incumbent is a Dem.

Mr_Magoo on June 26, 2009 at 10:19 AM

Oh, there’s a lot of GOP incumbents that should be challenged too. I call it the Specter effect. Let’s flush out the liberal GOP memembers in Congress and replace them with folks who believe in small government, low taxes, and strong national defense.

hawksruleva on June 26, 2009 at 10:21 AM

I hope you all are contacting your congressmen and urging them to vote NO on this egregious bill.

Make them aware that the EPA has suppressed a study based on peer-reviewed data showing conclusively that the IPCC was wrong about ‘global warming’. See here:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/25/online-global-warming-study-censored-by-epa/

Here is the suppressed report:

http://cei.org/cei_files/fm/active/0/DOC062509-004.pdf

A link to a site for congressional contacts is in this thread:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/25/the-waxman-markey-pre-vote-count-where-you-can-help/#comment-149650

Get busy!

MrLynn on June 26, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Let’s please remember that John McCain is one of the biggest proponents of this fairy tale cap-and-trade rape the country nonsense.

And now consider how much more difficult would it be to stop this bullsh*t lib train if he was in power and promoting it.

LibTired on June 26, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Do they want our money or do they want us dead?

Thunderstorm129 on June 26, 2009 at 10:09 AM

Neither. And both.

The name of the game is control. This is about enslaving the citizens and businesses of this country to gubmint. They want to control what we eat (ObamaCare), where we sleep (last Energy bill) and where and how we work (Waxman-Markey). Votes in the affirmative for this legislation or votes for “Change” “Chains”. The goal of all of Obama/Pelosi/Reid agenda is to make you, the free citizen of this country, dependent on gubmint.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 26, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Richard Neal (D) of Massachusetts is “still considering it”. They gave no indication of any leanings other than that but I suspect he will vote yes by the sheer virtue that crown princes Kennedy and Kerry are both leaning yes and this state legislator both on state and federal levels live in lala land. We aren’t called taxachusetts for nothing.

Miss Molly on June 26, 2009 at 10:22 AM

My guy in Florida is a definite no but I am going after the nincompoop at the Virginia address. The phones are busy busy busy, so hopefully that is a good sign. Virginia better shape up or I’m not moving back there.

Cindy Munford on June 26, 2009 at 10:25 AM

What is everybody doing here?

Don’t you know they had a luau at Communist Central and Michael Jackson has gone dead?!

cntrlfrk on June 26, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Cap and Trade looks like it will cause so much economic displacement and damage in our already weak economy, it could be Obama’s Smoot-Hawley.

Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Antoher Virginian – I’m in Bob Goodlatte country, so I’ll be represented correctly.

hawksruleva on June 26, 2009 at 10:20 AM

I’m in Va Beach and used to have Thelma Drake who was great. Now I’m “represented” by some freshman democrat … Glenn Nye … who’s obviously being led around by the nose and told how to vote.

He doesn’t reply to my mail.

darwin on June 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM

LibTired on June 26, 2009 at 10:22 AM

my senator…..yahoo!/sarc

cmsinaz on June 26, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Love this part about how much energy for federal agencies must be from renewable sources.

Calendar year Required annual percentage
2012………………….6.0
2013………………….6.0
2014………………….9.5
2015………………….9.5
2016…………………13.0
2017…………………13.0
2018…………………16.5
2019…………………16.5
2020…………………20.0
2021 through 2039……..20.0

Noble, right? Check the way Waxman inserted this little nugget if gubmint contain maintain their own standards listed above.

MODIFICATION OF REQUIREMENT.

If the President determines that the Federal Government cannot feasibly meet the requirement established in subsection (a)in a specific calendar year, the President may, by written order, reduce such requirement for such calendar year to a percentage the President determines the Federal Government can feasibly meet.

Wow.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 26, 2009 at 10:30 AM

contain = cannot

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 26, 2009 at 10:31 AM

I got through, the staffer was wouldn’t commit on his vote but did mention that the phones were ringing constantly.

Cindy Munford on June 26, 2009 at 10:31 AM

If this does pass the House, it can still be defeated in the Senate, so if you’ve already called your rep, start organizing to besiege your senator.

Rebar on June 26, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Typical. The amendment includes guidelines on the amount of energy that Federal agencies must get from renewable resources, starting with 6% of their total energy use in 2012. But it also allows the President to set that percentage to a lower level if Uncle Sam can’t meet the challenge.

Will coal companies be allowed to lower their targets, too?

hawksruleva on June 26, 2009 at 10:33 AM

Lol- Damn Dr. Cwac CwaC – you must read faster than me.

hawksruleva on June 26, 2009 at 10:33 AM

darwin on June 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM

That’s who I just called. I am not sure a phone assault is going to work for him. There was a phone campaign during Thelma Drake’s term and she voted with the constituents but then lost her seat. Since I don’t live there I don’t no the inside baseball information but my husband like her and was surprised she lost.

Cindy Munford on June 26, 2009 at 10:34 AM

OT – anyone catch any info on the Atlanta tea party being shut down 7/04 due to some stupid parking issue? PLEASE don’t tell me the govt is now moving to stop free assembly?

Ris4victory on June 26, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Ris4, they covered this on the Glenn Beck show last night before it became all about Michael Jackson. It turns out, they were going to hold this rally at an old Macy’s there that is now a vacant commercial property. Mind you, this is private property, they have the full permits, permits for fireworks, etc. Guess who OWNS this property? Someone named SIMON. (last name).

Turns out this Simon person is an uber lib and a major fundraiser for Obambi. ANyone wanna take the bet that the White House Thugs leaned on this guy? You betcha.

True story, check out their website.

karenhasfreedom on June 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM

Please remember that the INTERGOVERNMENTAL PANEL ON CLIMATE CHANGE has roots in the WORLD METEOROLOGICAL ORGANIZATION, and UNITED NATIONS ENVIROMENT PROGRAMME. This is also the biggest affront to our own sovereignty.

fourdeucer on June 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

Something has gone wrong.

Johan Klaus on June 26, 2009 at 10:35 AM

The sad truth is, 90%+ of Congressional incumbents run unopposed.

Rebar on June 26, 2009 at 10:09 AM

That can’t possibly be true. There may be some truth in the reality that 90% of Congressional seats are essentially safe and the challenger is a dark horse but that is different than the claim that less than 10% of all Congressmen are even challenged for reelection. Do you have something to back up your claim?

highhopes on June 26, 2009 at 10:36 AM

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