AOL Hot Seat Poll: Do you support cap-and-trade?
posted at 3:10 pm on June 26, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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I was going to call it cap-and-tax, but then thought that might be too much of a tell. While AOL only went with one “No” option, I’m glad they took my suggestion and offered two reasons for “Yes”, as I’d like to see how each option plays in the individual states. I suspect we’ll see a lot of “No”, and I suspect we’ll see more about global warming on the coasts and more about oil in the interior states.
Don’t forget to keep calling Congresscritters all day — Michelle’s liveblogging the debate and has the contact info. Call the Senate, too, although there looks to be a decent chance that this will fail in the House.
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Is the vote 5pm EST?
artist on June 26, 2009 at 3:11 PM
Can I get a “hell no”?
Rational Thought on June 26, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Rush, is that you?
Upstater85 on June 26, 2009 at 3:13 PM
You left off:
-Yes, to finish off the ailing economy.
Ordinary1 on June 26, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Looks like “conserve oil” seems to be a mostly Northeast choice… interesting.
Lehosh on June 26, 2009 at 3:14 PM
I think we need a moment of silence…in remembrance of a once great and powerful nation…
JetBoy on June 26, 2009 at 3:14 PM
I’ve written to my congress critters twice. I even sent them and my local commisioners a link to this WSJ article
birdhurd on June 26, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Yes, let’s let our government tax us into oblivion so that we can alter a fraction of a percent of the total carbon output in the world when we’re not even 100% sure that that will have a significant effect on “climate change.” That sounds brilliant.
BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING NOW!!!! THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!!! HEY LOOK OVER THERE!!!
TheUnrepentantGeek on June 26, 2009 at 3:16 PM
You also need an option that says “Yes – and may I also have a blunt stick in the eye, please.”
Mr. D on June 26, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Re-post…
Come on, those from the 29th…
Upstater85 on June 26, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Crap & Tax would be an economic disaster for our country. If ObamaCare doesn’t wreck our economy, this hideous idiocy surely will.
-Dave
Dave R. on June 26, 2009 at 3:18 PM
No “HELL NO” option? Darn.
powerpro on June 26, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Energy policy based on a hoax, what could go wrong?
daesleeper on June 26, 2009 at 3:19 PM
How about an “Are you kidding me?”
UltimateBob on June 26, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Upstater85 on June 26, 2009 at 3:22 PM
Are you serial?
MadisonConservative on June 26, 2009 at 3:23 PM
No. for my wallet.
fogw on June 26, 2009 at 3:24 PM
huh?
Upstater85 on June 26, 2009 at 3:25 PM
All congress bastardos who vote for Cap-and-Trade should be knee-capped and traded-in.
MB4 on June 26, 2009 at 3:26 PM
How about a “Hell No Because only an enemy of the United States of American and the Constitution would support it” option?
Wolftech on June 26, 2009 at 3:27 PM
We could send them to … BERMUDA! *dada dada JAWS MUSIC*
Upstater85 on June 26, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Not yet, please. We still have some great young talents and heroes. I still have hope.
Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 3:27 PM
This is war……!
Seven Percent Solution on June 26, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Super serial!
JetBoy on June 26, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Is this passes, there will never be an economic recovery.
txag92 on June 26, 2009 at 3:28 PM
I’m starting to strongly feel that the only one who can fix this mess is Beck! He’s flawed, as we all are, but the most honest individual around!
Dread Pirate Roberts VI on June 26, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Supposedly Fortenberry (R) Nebraska is “Against in its current form” per his Lincoln Office.
But he is gutless, so we’ll see.
PappaMac on June 26, 2009 at 3:29 PM
I am not a frosted flake. What are you?
Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 3:29 PM
“serial” = “serious”…from South Park/Al Gore (manbearpig) episode…
JetBoy on June 26, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Cap-and-Trade is just another in a series of Michael Jacksoness national self-mutilations. Congress needs to be put on medication or different medication as the case may be.
MB4 on June 26, 2009 at 3:30 PM
HELL NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
RedSoxNation on June 26, 2009 at 3:30 PM
huh?
Upstater85 on June 26, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Serious.
artist on June 26, 2009 at 3:30 PM
I’m not sure there will be one even if it doesn’t pass.
-Dave
Dave R. on June 26, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Dear Ed, can you please install a simultaneous translation function?
Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Just let them know if they vote for cap and trade you will donate money to their primary challenger and if that does not work their opponent in the general election regardless of party. You will spend your money to make sure they do not return to Congress.
That gets their attention.
LincolntheHun on June 26, 2009 at 3:31 PM
;)
JetBoy on June 26, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Those at 150% of the “poverty line” get cash each month right into their checking account to make up for their loss of purchasing power resulting from the increase in prices for everything. It goes right from your pocket to theirs.
Akzed on June 26, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Hell no. Happy to report that’s the way my Congressman (Bill Shuster) is voting too.
Btw, why would anyone want to ‘conserve’ oil?
petefrt on June 26, 2009 at 3:32 PM
I’m super super serial.
pfamis on June 26, 2009 at 3:33 PM
Does anyone else think Ed looks like a Soprano or something in that picture?
apollyonbob on June 26, 2009 at 3:34 PM
Appearently we are in a new era of Jacksonian Democracy where celebrity news takes precedence over societal changing laws potatntially being enacted by our government.
WashJeff on June 26, 2009 at 3:34 PM
Geez Ed, I was looking for H E double toothpicks no. To long?
Americannodash on June 26, 2009 at 3:34 PM
He looks like a man bearing down on a particularly rocky turd.
LimeyGeek on June 26, 2009 at 3:35 PM
“Arial” in Mike Castle’s office (RINO, DE) told me that he won’t have an opinion on the bill until it’s in final form. I asked, “Until it’s in final form? Don’t you mean until he’s read all 1,200 pages? Don’t you think he should read a bill before he signs it?” She got snippy.
Akzed on June 26, 2009 at 3:36 PM
Dear Ed, can you please install a multiple simultaneous translation functions?
Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 3:37 PM
HELL NO!!!!
christene on June 26, 2009 at 3:37 PM
I just called my congressman, Steve Kagan (D). I won’t be holding my breath for him to see the light – I have never once voted for him and am disgusted that he keeps getting re-elected. If this POS bill does pass, we may all have to hold our breath or risk “polluting.” What horse hockey!
kscheuller on June 26, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Can we ban the 4 responsible for choosing option 1?
I thought this was a plan to expose the moles.
Sapwolf on June 26, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Hell no.
The one and only time I believed Obama was telling the truth was during the campaign on the You Tube (did it fall into the memory hole?) when he as much as promised that cap and trade was going to make our utility bills SKYROCKET..
What about the term SKYROCKET don’t people understand?
marybel on June 26, 2009 at 3:38 PM
So creating a new market and imposing a roundabout tax is all of a sudden society changing? you act as if our government hasnt been in the business of expanding it’s prerogative since the end of the era of good feelings
ernesto on June 26, 2009 at 3:39 PM
Called my congresswoman’s office today.Her assistant of course could not tell me if she read the bill but did say she would be voting for it.
Unfortunately I live in Massachusetts so it is pretty much hopeless
richn33 on June 26, 2009 at 3:39 PM
That was both descriptive and horrifying. Good job!
apollyonbob on June 26, 2009 at 3:41 PM
You’re right. Government has been expanding for a long time. I hope for change. Let’s cap government and trade it down to a smaller size.
Loxodonta on June 26, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Even if today’s vote goes badly, maybe there’s hope of killing this before the biggest cost increases kick in.
KS Rex on June 26, 2009 at 3:45 PM
But they like him. And if you don’t like what he’s doing, you have “ODS”.
capitalist piglet on June 26, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Maybe “societal change” is a bad term, put taxing something as natural as CO2 to “improve” out climate is a major change. Prior legislation was mostly, if not always, focused on stopping the introduction of foreign particles in a source (e.g., air, water, etc.).
Whew! You are really going back in time for “jump the shark” moment. No problem with a federal government with those restraints, but I would be dancing in the streets if we could get back to -pre-wilsonian\progressive movement.
WashJeff on June 26, 2009 at 3:47 PM
You can’t polish a turd and have any thing else but a turd. He should be against it in any form.
chemman on June 26, 2009 at 3:47 PM
Hey Ed, you should have put a Hell No on there. Just no doesn’t cover it.
Terrye on June 26, 2009 at 3:48 PM
Everyone can visit
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/
to find out their congressman’s and senator’s direct phone numbers in Washington and their local numbers. I call both and also send them an e-mail. The more the better.
ny59giants on June 26, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Global warming might kill me, this I know,
Though my thermostat is turned down, oh so low.
Though my lights are all set on dim,
Still Lord Al bids me to scrimp more for Him.
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
Though my Honda is oh so slow,
With my mind in his hands I’ll go.
On through life, to others let come what may,
He’ll be fling in a private jet going His Lordly way.
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
Though I am no longer young,
I have learned so much which He’s begun.
Let me live in a cave like my ancestors did for The Goracle with a smile,
Go with Him the extra carbon credit pile.
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
When the days are hot and long,
In my mind He puts a song.
Telling me in words so clear,
“Let Me be clear, I am The Goracle that you must hear.”
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
When His work in America is done,
And His bank accounts weigh a ton.
He will take my roof above,
Then I’ll understand all about His love.
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
I praise The Goracle, does he know?
Have I ever told Him so?
The Goracle loves to hear me say,
That I will buy His carbon credits every day.
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
Yes, Global warming might kill me!
The Goracle tells me so.
MB4 on June 26, 2009 at 3:50 PM
Keep your laws off my body!
(CO2 is a naturally occuring gas I expel from my lungs every few seconds. Why does the governemnt think it can regulate my body in this way? Do I not have resperation rights? Am I not a
woman whose body has been to long controled by religious zealots who think they know what is best for me and my CO2?)Aquateen Hungerforce on June 26, 2009 at 3:56 PM
Heres my question.
How much landmass does a wind farm or solar farm need to produce the same ammount of energy as a Nuk. plant.
Hrydro uses an enormous amount of land. humdreds of acres per KW.
Rick007 on June 26, 2009 at 3:57 PM
That Gore-pic on the front page is awesome.
peski on June 26, 2009 at 4:01 PM
By making carbon a major revenue source for the government, this will kill any hope of alternative sources of energy. Government officials will find any excuse to tangle up windmills or nuclear plants, because those will be like taking food from their mouths.
pedestrian on June 26, 2009 at 4:01 PM
pre-wilsonian government would be a mixed bag, but thats another discussion entirely. as for cap and trade, isnt all pollution, even if it doesnt cause global warming, worth putting a price on?
ernesto on June 26, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Heres another question.
Where do we get the water to grow all the corn the Goracal wants to use for E85?
We need the water to provide hydro power?
Cal is drying up.
Answer to all my questions is Go all Nuk.and Nat.Gas.
1.It will produce millions of jobs in construction and when the plants are finished.
2.It will get us off of alot of foreign oil.
People in Congress get your heads out it’s not only dark up there it also smells.
Rick007 on June 26, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Define “pollution” and you’ll have your answer I believe.
Aquateen Hungerforce on June 26, 2009 at 4:11 PM
awesome name!
ernesto on June 26, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Which Alinsky Rule is about creating chaos? Every day it’s a new bill, a different policy framed in apocalyptic terms. “We must do this or we are doomed!”
I must admit, that I am getting somewhat fatigued by all this insanity. I don’t see how it can continue for 3 1/2 more years. It’s crazy.
conservative pilgrim on June 26, 2009 at 4:15 PM
how bout we put a cap on algore’s mouth and trade him to iran for a potato.
la.rt.wngr on June 26, 2009 at 4:16 PM
Doesn’t this tax on CO2 run perpendicular to Right to Life. If we naturally produce this gas in our cycle of life..doesn’t it make it unconstitutional to try and tax it.
Next we’re gonna have sensors up our arse and Boston Banned Baked Beans.
birdhurd on June 26, 2009 at 4:16 PM
I tried to vote no, but it won’t let me- It pops up a little window with a ‘Place Vote” button, but the button doesn’t work.
Pelosi must have taken control of AOL.
oddball on June 26, 2009 at 4:25 PM
I thought Cap and Trade was an alternative presidential succession plan!
Can I change my vote?
/
Maquis on June 26, 2009 at 4:28 PM
“Cap-and-Trade.” “Cap and Tax.”
“KneeCap Our Economy”
Star20 on June 26, 2009 at 4:32 PM
Kneecap and trade. /stole from Laura Ingraham
Kneecap the economy and trade. /totally my invention
Geochelone on June 26, 2009 at 4:33 PM
There weree some backroom deals by the Dem “enforcers,” offering ethanol “sweeteners” into the bill in order to twist the arms of holdouts in the Midwest/farmbelt states. I hope that these holdouts were smart enough to see the bigger damage this bill would do to our economy.
onlineanalyst on June 26, 2009 at 4:33 PM
CO2 is not pollution. It is not a foreign substance to the atmosphere.
WashJeff on June 26, 2009 at 4:38 PM
They are all CROOKS.Hang’em at sunrise 2morrow.
easyone on June 26, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Send them to China and let them breathe some real pollution, while the authorities there kill their daughters and younger children.
Steve Z on June 26, 2009 at 4:57 PM
It made me want to throw him a fish. *arh arh arh*
Laura in Maryland on June 26, 2009 at 4:59 PM
Ethanol only makes things worse. It takes almost as much fossil fuel energy to make ethanol is obtained from ethanol, so this ends up doubling CO2 emissions relative to simply burning gasoline. Plus, the food value of the corn is lost. Ever try drinking gasoline?
Steve Z on June 26, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Al Gore lives in a section of Nashville called Belle Meade. Those who know him for years have never doubted his intentions, but we have aways doubted his sanity. He removes all doubt that liberalism is a progressive mental disorder and if he adamently supports cap & trade then it has to be destructive to our economy.
volsense on June 26, 2009 at 5:04 PM
What … my six figure annual payout to the IRS isn’t enough to support liberal deadbeats!?
kregg on June 26, 2009 at 5:04 PM
Barack Obama: FIFY
VibrioCocci on June 26, 2009 at 5:18 PM
Excellent screen name btw.
JiangxiDad on June 26, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Thanks for the correction Vibrio. LULZ
birdhurd on June 26, 2009 at 5:21 PM
;-)
VibrioCocci on June 26, 2009 at 5:23 PM
This is the single greatest scam pulled on the American people.
Hog Wild on June 26, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Second single greatest HW…..the first was electing this idiot in the WH.
Rovin on June 26, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Darn, you beat me to it!
4Freedom on June 26, 2009 at 5:32 PM
No, but thanks for asking. I do believe however, that serial lunacy is now running our government.
Sweet_Thang on June 26, 2009 at 5:41 PM
If for no other reason, I oppose cap and trade because it will make the price of beer skyrocket!!!!
loudmouth883 on June 26, 2009 at 5:42 PM
This is the single greatest scam pulled on the American people.
Hog Wild on June 26, 2009 at 5:25 PM
Second single greatest HW…..the first was electing this idiot in the WH
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You ain’t seen nothing yet. Just wait.
Rick007 on June 26, 2009 at 5:43 PM
I am finding it very difficult to have any faith in our legislators. Neither Dems or Republicans seem to have integrity anymore. What ever happened to statesmen?
jorb on June 26, 2009 at 5:45 PM
How’s about Save the Snail Darter,Polar Bear,Carabo and the Spotted Owl.
We have to let the older sick people die cause they cost to much to treat.
No wonder “O” Dumbo Ears never went to Grandmas funeral !!
She was just a sick old person.
Rick007 on June 26, 2009 at 5:48 PM
Who is cenk uygur and how did he become such an effing moron? Was he run over by a bus and his brain got squished?
peacenprosperity on June 26, 2009 at 5:55 PM
I posted this to the other thread too. Dingy Harry pronounced this bill a dead issue in the senate before leaving for vacation and Rush reported a rumor the libturds are gonna pull the bill because they do not have the votes to pass it.
Apparently their offices are drowning in phone calls, emails and letters of outrage.
dogsoldier on June 26, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Sweet_Thang on June 26, 2009 at 6:00 PM
This is GREAT!
House Republican Leader John Boehner (R-OH) is reading sections of the 300 page amendment dropped on the House at 3:09 am this morning—-on c-span
The complete amendment was submitted by Waxman, the California Representative that has taken California’s “bureaucracy’s of insanity” (that has plumetted Cals economy into a 24 billion dollar HOLE), and now wants to make all these new government programs FEDERAL!
Go John, Go….I hope he keeps reading until every Democrat misses their planes……..
Rovin on June 26, 2009 at 6:22 PM
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