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Steel Magnolia.
atheling on June 26, 2009 at 12:58 AM
She seems to be emotionally healthy. Maybe this isn’t the first time she’s faced life’s challenges.
Mojave Mark on June 26, 2009 at 1:00 AM
“LOL”, I have no doubt about that Bubba, but I seriously doubt your wife has.
kg598301 on June 26, 2009 at 1:02 AM
I guess I should have been more succinct. You don’t grow up in Winnetka unless your family has money and there is a pretty good chance that she thinks her sh&t doesn’t stink do to the curriculum vitae you posted, ergo she is not likely the type of woman to put her all into satisfying her husband. The fact that he cheated on her, it seems, only once after 20 years makes it likely that he isn’t Clintonesque but even a very good husband will not forgo a sex life.
Listen to Dennis Prager’s take on this before you beatify Jenny Sanford.
Bill C on June 26, 2009 at 12:52 AM
Yeah, rich women never get down and dirty w/ their husbands in bed! That’s a proven fact, right???
Lots of stats on that. :rolleyes:
There are plenty of folks who are caring for handicapped/ill spouses who never get their emotional needs met, and yet somehow they don’t have affairs.
It’s a matter of character.
Like was stated earlier. Mrs. Stanford is responsible for 50% of the condition of their marriage.
He was 100% responsible for his affair.
Marsh on June 26, 2009 at 1:08 AM
Lindsey Graham is a weak sister. I’m done settling for the lesser evil.
Jack Kennedy was a piece of crap from a piece of crap family. He benefitted greatly from the fact that his dog of an old man had enough money to buy off more than a few reporters and newspapers. All the Kennedy men would notch their bedposts to keep track and all the Kennedy women took it and covered it up. Due to his martyrdom, it’s unlikely Kennedy will ever be objectively appraised. And one of the terrible costs we’ve had to bear as a consequence is having Ted Kennedy in the senate for all these years.
thegreatbeast on June 26, 2009 at 1:09 AM
I messed up. This is what I should have said from the beginning, “Apparently Mark Sanford is not a strong enough man to control himself in the company of another woman, what a pansy a** man.” Just like all those other men who think with their other brain.
thevastlane on June 26, 2009 at 1:12 AM
dang, what a strong, centered, focused woman.
my prediction is that this marriage will survive.
he is going to wake up and realize one day what a selfish idiot he has been, and then do whatever is required to make it work again. but you can bet its going to be on her terms, and in the end a good thing for the boys.
she is really immpressive.
exceller on June 26, 2009 at 1:12 AM
This is a wonderful woman — Mark Sanford, you’re a fool.
Richard Romano on June 26, 2009 at 1:20 AM
VinnyL on June 26, 2009 at 1:24 AM
Glenn read his glorious emails earlier today, with Stu laughing all the way through.
V15J on June 26, 2009 at 1:51 AM
Hey! I KNOW how to please my man – so much that he hasn’t bothered with American women for almost twenty years!
(Full disclosure: I’m Puerto Rican.)
newton on June 26, 2009 at 1:56 AM
I saw that on TV today. As soon as I saw the violin soloist at the studio, I pressed the Mute button. (My 2-year-old was around, ahem…)
Why does he do those things? He’s crazy, but he’s wanna-watch crazy!
newton on June 26, 2009 at 1:59 AM
The Sanford situation is the clearest evidence yet that we put too much faith in the political class. Watching people howl and moan over who we are going to look to now that Sanford has imploded is evidence that we, the voters, are part of the problem.
The fact that we have convinced ourselves that we can only draw from a small group of people to lead us is insane. Do we really think that any of these cretins are better, smarter or more qualified than the rest of us. The idiocy displayed almost daily by Obama and the constant moral failures of politicians of all stripes clearly demonstrates that we have rested our faith on the most unworthy group of people possible.
Mormon Doc on June 26, 2009 at 2:28 AM
“He’s crazy, but he’s wanna-watch crazy!”
you just answered the question …
:-)
Buckaroo on June 26, 2009 at 2:28 AM
What’s important? The lady seems om top of it.
Sanford should finish out his term and ride off into the sunset.
Laurence on June 26, 2009 at 2:54 AM
“Laurence on June 26, 2009 at 2:54 AM”
or resign and work on salvaging his marraige …
Buckaroo on June 26, 2009 at 2:55 AM
O/T anyone intrested three seperate stories on Gov. Palin at American Thinker.
heshtesh on June 26, 2009 at 2:55 AM
Here’s another Palin story.
V15J on June 26, 2009 at 3:18 AM
Great Lady! Solid in who she is and her principles and values, and she’s got her priorities well aligned accordingly.
Mark Sanford blew more than a career with that one thoughtless act. He will spend the rest of his life looking over his should, back at the person he used to be, and wonder if it was worth sacrificing his inner core and all that he’d built in life.
Some mistakes we never stop paying for, and only will prove valuable in the cost if we learn the lessons hidden within the experience.
KendraWilder on June 26, 2009 at 3:58 AM
Meh. SHe sounds like an intolerable b to me. My husband’s career doesn’t matter? RIght, becuas eyou were totally paying all the bills after you decided to be a stay at home mom.
Not that there’s anything wrong with that, in fact I think it’s the ideal – my wife is a stay at home mom – but I can also tell you that it breeds resentment. My wife rarely finishes anywhere near the amount of household chores I do – including the cooking – and still resents that on top of all that I get to go bust my hump for 8 hrs a day bringing home a paycheck.
This woman will whine and cry about family, but really what she does is emasculate her husband so much at home that he had to go out and find release with another woman.
If she was fulfilling her duties as a wife, he wouldn’t have cheated on her. Plain and simple.
flashoverride on June 26, 2009 at 5:29 AM
Wow… that’s so deeply ignorant.
She looks like a classy woman and a fantastic partner. Her motherhood is vibrant and strong. And she has a sense of humor.
beatcanvas on June 26, 2009 at 5:49 AM
So you aren’t an American? Or is it that you believe your ethnicity is more important then your country?
It’s amazing how the seemingly unimportant threads like this one and the jackson one give insight into what people really believe. They drop thier guards when they don’t think they are proving thier conservative credentials.
peacenprosperity on June 26, 2009 at 6:03 AM
One more thing I liked about Mark Sanford: he married really, really well. What a bright, secure, intelligent lady she is.
Jaibones on June 26, 2009 at 6:11 AM
Classy.
redfoxbluestate on June 26, 2009 at 6:15 AM
Wow, so you actually know her? You evidently are not one of those giving us an opinion based on a minute film clip.
This is excellent as you can fill us in as to why she’s so great.
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 6:18 AM
I really like how people can tell us what a great wife and mother, based on NOTHING.Kind of like picking a President with NO experience based on how well he speaks.
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 6:21 AM
So do the best con artists, until they sink the hook. Look, women are people too, so knock off all this “saintly woman” nonsense.
Unless you’re buttering her up for the rebound. If that’s the case, go for it.
flashoverride on June 26, 2009 at 6:21 AM
Even the worst of the libs will have a hard time smacking her down for that response.
eeyore on June 26, 2009 at 6:33 AM
Just saw a story calling his new squeeze a “Professional, Passionate, Beautiful Brunette”.
So how do we know he wasn’t trading up? Maybe the new squeeze
has money.It sure worked for Kerry.
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 6:35 AM
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 6:45 AM
Why don’t you educate yourself about her. She’s not living off Mark, she probably run his campaign to give him something to do.
the_nile on June 26, 2009 at 6:47 AM
Wow, so you actually know her? You evidently are not one of those giving us an opinion based on a minute film clip.
Sniff…sniff…I’m so sorry.I’m an emotional wreck since I found out Michael Jackson died..I..sniff..sniff…don’t know how I’ll go on.
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 6:52 AM
What’s with the fear of strong women? You can tell us…
jerrytbg on June 26, 2009 at 6:57 AM
Jennifer Sullivan Sanford (born 1962), is the First Lady of South Carolina. She is the wife of Gov. Mark Sanford of South Carolina. She was raised in Winnetka, Illinois with four siblings, and has a B.A. in finance from Georgetown University. From 1984 until 1990, she worked at Lazard, an investment bank in New York, eventually becoming vice president of mergers and acquisitions. In 1994, she managed her husband’s successful campaign for Congress, as well as his successful gubenatorial campaign in 2002. According to the Governor’s website, she assisted him daily during his first term as Governor, and co-managed his successful re-election campaign in 2006. In 2005, she launched the Healthy South Carolina Challenge, an initiative to reduce the incidence of chronic preventable disease. She serves on the boards of several non-profits, including the Hollings Cancer Center, the Drayton Hall historical property in Charleston, the Coastal Community Foundation and the Children’s Hospital Advisory Fund.
She and her husband have four sons, Marshall, Landon, Bolton and Blake. Mrs. Sanford is the granddaughter of Bolton Sullivan, the founder of the Skil Corporation of Chicago. On June 24, 2009, her husband admitted to having an affair in Argentina.
the_nile on June 26, 2009 at 6:59 AM
Who said she was strong.All that from a 60 second clip. No wonder Obama was elected.
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 7:02 AM
Jeff, it’s ok Jeff you’ll be ok…do you need a hankie…
jerrytbg on June 26, 2009 at 7:05 AM
Not a FEAR. Just tired of hearing how great people are based on little lor nothing. She might be great. She might be an evil shrew. I’ll not base my opinion on a 30-60 film clip.
Let’s see how she takes it from here. Will she stand on stage with him like a Stepford Wife playing the wounded yet supportive dolt? Let’s wait and see.
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 7:07 AM
Sniff..sniff..(blowing nose)..(wiping tears from eyes)… I don’t know how I’ll go on.Poor Ed died so young. In the prime of life and now I’ll never…sniff..get my Publishers Clearinghouse Check.Bwwwaaaa
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 7:09 AM
I’ll give you that …on this point…
lol ! good one …still laughing
jerrytbg on June 26, 2009 at 7:13 AM
Heh. Hey, Jeff – when was your first divorce finalized? It seems to have left an impression on you.
Jaibones on June 26, 2009 at 7:13 AM
You’re on to something.
the_nile on June 26, 2009 at 7:15 AM
Have to ask my wife..my first wife since 10/73
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 7:20 AM
You don’t have to wait. She already chose not to stand by Sanford’s side at his mea culpa. That and “his career is not a concern of mine. He’s going to have to worry about that” would seem to indicate a very low level of Stepfordization.
eeyore on June 26, 2009 at 7:32 AM
I do have one question. If he would have to spend the rest of his life with, what we know will be, a very vindictive wife, yet the mistress is supposedly a looker, why in Gods name would he go back to his wife for a life of hell?
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 7:38 AM
Her affair with Congressman Waxman was a “well known” secret.
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 7:40 AM
Jeff from WI and flashoverride
A guy allows himself to get very personal with another woman, chooses to pursue the relationship with her, hurts his life partner – who has completely aided his success in life – and hurt his four boys, and you guys take up for him and attack his wife?
Sanford has no defense here, and even if he was dissatisfied in his marriage, the right thing to do would be to divorce his wife first and not cheat on her.
Way to debase yourselves.
beatcanvas on June 26, 2009 at 7:40 AM
Vindictive? She only says , you broke it you own it.
She got money , she only needs a father for her children , that’s why she doesn’t care about his career.
the_nile on June 26, 2009 at 7:44 AM
Photo and video of Sanford’s love interest:
http://nicholasjacob.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/photo-maria-belen-chapur-mark-sanfords-love-interest/
nickj116 on June 26, 2009 at 7:44 AM
No, no, why would HE want to come back.Come back to WHAT? He’s better off in Argentina.
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 7:48 AM
I’m NOT attacking her, I’m just not ready to call her a saint. My point about him coming back to her is, she will JUSTIFIABLY make his life a living hell. His sons already know dads a bum. He might as well stay in Argentina.
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 7:51 AM
I guess you didn’t listen to Prager. The fact is that we don’t know. Sanford was wrong to cheat but we have no idea about the condition of their marriage and who was responsible for that condition. She could have been a shrew, we just don’t know so claiming that she is a wonderful person with a great deal of dignity after she pulls a impromptu presser from her SUV is a little silly.
Bill C on June 26, 2009 at 7:52 AM
Actually, the right thing would have been to honor his wedding vows by remaining faithful and make some sort of relationship work with his wife to keep the family together for the sake of the children. Being dissatisfied isn’t justifiable grounds for divorce when kids are involved, IMO.
highhopes on June 26, 2009 at 7:53 AM
Yup.
And btw, it’s not as if this affair makes Sanford any less of a nice guy. It makes him a cheater yes, but you’d probably still think he was incredibly nice if you met him.
Just a guess.
nickj116 on June 26, 2009 at 7:54 AM
And you know this how?
St. Jenny Sanford. Patron Saint of all women whose husbands cheat because all men who cheat are never driven to it by their wives. Men are always wrong…blah, blah, blah.
Bill C on June 26, 2009 at 8:02 AM
All that is true enough but I do give the woman some credit for even talking to the media and, clearly, going on with her life as normal despite all the attention. That doesn’t necessarily make her a nice person but her comment about “that’s not a concern of mine” shows an inner strength that not all the politicians wives in this situation have shown.
Again, I agree with the sentiment that you can’t tell the whole story about the woman but at least give her a little credit for facing the world on her terms and not going into seclusion like John Edwards wife did.
highhopes on June 26, 2009 at 8:06 AM
What on earth does this mean? Conservatives are supposed to stand for personal responsibility. That means we take responsibility for our actions whatever the consequences. I guess that’s the case unless you are a husband in an unhappy marriage, then you can cheat with impunity because your horrible wife drove you to it.
Bah. This is a terribly disappointing discussion.
freemo on June 26, 2009 at 8:08 AM
You say you aren’t attacking her and that you aren’t willing to draw conclusions based on a 30-60 second clip. Fair enough.
BUT you have mused about what she did to drive him away (as if he is incapable of drifting off on his own) and you are now concluding that she is vindictive.
The State has published a bunch of emails between Sanford and his mistress from July 2008. They discuss the ‘complications’ of their involvement and he talks about how problematic it is for HIS job and HER children, without a word about HIS marriage and HIS children. Have you drawn any conclusions about how his wife is responsible for the fact that he apparently didn’t give a flying fig how this would affect his kids?
ProfessorMiao on June 26, 2009 at 8:08 AM
Men (and, to be fair, women too) do these things for who knows what reason. Only they can answer that. It’s bad enough when it happens to anonymous people, but to have it happen and then be publicly humiliated and hounded by the press…I can’t even imagine how horrific that would be. Reading someone’s private emails on the air is despicable. Of course, he chose the public life so I guess that comes with the territory. I’ve no desire to read his mail. His wife seems to be a strong person and she’ll get through it. Going boating was a great idea!
scalleywag on June 26, 2009 at 8:09 AM
that lady’s got class.
rogue780 on June 26, 2009 at 8:09 AM
Wow, can I take a look in that crystal ball you have?
scalleywag on June 26, 2009 at 8:10 AM
Yeppers.
ProfessorMiao on June 26, 2009 at 8:11 AM
If she is going to pull the “I am all about the children” card then she shouldn’t be discussing her marital problems with the press. How does it help her children to add to the media frenzy?
Bill C on June 26, 2009 at 8:11 AM
How are you supposed to avoid the media frenzy? If they had any class they’d give her some privacy. Having a spouse cheat on you is almost as devastating as losing them altogether. My uncle once said of his wife’s passing that it was easier to go through that than if she had chosen someone else and left him.
scalleywag on June 26, 2009 at 8:13 AM
Any marriage counsellor would tell you that both spouses share equal responsibility for the condition of their marriage.
ProfessorMiao on June 26, 2009 at 8:14 AM
I don’t know that she was discussing her marital problems with the media. She essentially told them that they’d have to ask him about his career. Compare with Jon and Kate who spent 40 freakin’ minutes talking about their break-up.
highhopes on June 26, 2009 at 8:15 AM
You are projecting. You would be vindictive in the same circumstances. You would not be able to love your wife if she cheated on you. You have no idea whether Jenny Sanford feels the same way.
ProfessorMiao on June 26, 2009 at 8:16 AM
Question:
A politician is ostracized if he goes through a divorce. Careers have ended over such. Unless it happens before taking office. Affairs also end political careers. I am not in favor of divorce or affairs (hadn’t had either one) But, in todays amoral society why is it such a news item.
HoustonRight on June 26, 2009 at 8:18 AM
Equal? I’d go along with the idea that both spouses have some share of responsibility for the condition of a marriage but equal doesn’t seem correct. As far as a partnership goes, marriage is an equal responsibility but sometimes one partner betrays the other without a single indication ahead of time.
highhopes on June 26, 2009 at 8:19 AM
I never said his cheating was right. I said if he was unhappy in his marriage and they tried to work it out but couldn’t then he should have sought a divorce.
Bill C on June 26, 2009 at 8:21 AM
Keep your car window rolled up. Don’t talk to them, when they ask questions say no comment.
Bill C on June 26, 2009 at 8:23 AM
Okay – so ol’ Mark knew this woman for what, 8 years? WHy did he only recently start bagning her? Couldn’t have anything to do with mounting pressures from his legislative career that his wife apparently doesn’t care about. Furthermore, I’m not attacking her, I’m attacking the seeming characterization that she’s a saint based on a sound bite. That is a stretch – and a tenuous one. Remember it takes two to tango.
HOW FANTASTICALLY IGNORANT OF THE CURRENT DIVORCE REGIME YOU ARE. Really? So the man should give up rights to his children so that he doesn’t cheat on his wife? If all things were equal in divorce court I’d tend to agree with your sentiment, but the plain fact is that she would get the house and he would get the payments, so to speak.
I’ll take “I’m not divorced form reality and I’d like to see women as equal – good and bad” for 1000, Alex.
flashoverride on June 26, 2009 at 8:24 AM
That is an incredible and strong woman.
Will be ignored by the phony feminists of course except to mock her.
RobCon on June 26, 2009 at 8:24 AM
But both are not responsible for its breakdown. In this case, Jenny Sanford has every right to divorce her husband because of his unfaithfulness. He was wrong. We know that. What we don’t know, and what a lot of people are assuming, is that she has no fault.
Bill C on June 26, 2009 at 8:26 AM
Because the media these days like to tear down public figures and have no concern about the collateral damage inflicted on innocent parties like the kids.
It’s not as if politicians started having extra-marital affairs in the wake of the Clinton infidelities (note plural tense). Most of the time it was ignored unless events made that impossible as in the case of Wilbur Mills…
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,911535,00.html
P.S. Note the writing style of this article and realize just how dumbed down the print media has become.
highhopes on June 26, 2009 at 8:28 AM
I’m not saying that both partners are equally responsible for one of them having an affair. Far from it. But you can’t keep a marriage solid and satisfying without both partners making an equal effort to nurture the relationship or, in a case where it is breaking or broken, to try to rebuild the trust. In the case of a one off affair, it suggests to me that they had been drifting apart although I don’t pretend to know.
ProfessorMiao on June 26, 2009 at 8:29 AM
It is terrible how he left that woman to die and didn’t go back for hours to get her out of the water isnt it? No, wait…… that was the Lion of the Senate…. Teddy Kennedy! No doubt when he leaves this earth, there will be multitudes of Republicans singing his praises.
Sanford’s career is over because we conservatives like to consume our own.
Mrs. Sanford seems to have her priorities in the right order. Do we?
libertylady on June 26, 2009 at 8:29 AM
That is probably sage advice but I don’t think I would follow it for the simple reason that I wouldn’t want to be forced to live my life skulking around just because my spouse is having a very public mid-life crisis.
highhopes on June 26, 2009 at 8:31 AM
Sniff..Sniff…I was a fool…how could I be so wrong…I’m…sniff..sniff..so glad I’ve been straightened out that Ms Sanford is really is a strong woman, a great cook, a fantastic lover, a great partner in a card game, a great singer, a great dancer, a great welder, a great roofer, a great transplant donor, a great insurance salesman, a great diplomat, plumber and mother.
Saint Sanford in a few years.
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 8:32 AM
Very well put! I loved how you added in the Capt. Ted Kennedy and the USS Olds sub analogy too
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 8:34 AM
Yet that is exactly what she should be doing if her goal is to protect her children. Neither spouse should bad mouth their spouse in front of the children.
Bill C on June 26, 2009 at 8:34 AM
Maybe that’s what you meant, but you said
To me that implies some men cheat because the wife has driven them to it, therefore the responsibility for husband’s cheating then rests with the wives. “Oh, if my wife hadn’t been such a shrew then I never would’ve cheated.”
But if you agree that the responsibility for cheating lies with the cheater, then fair dues.
freemo on June 26, 2009 at 8:35 AM
All I can say is wow, just wow. Would you feel the same way if she were the one having the affair? Because you seem to be saying that because there were problems in the marriage, he is justified in what he did, and that his infidelity is a better solution for the kids than a divorce where they would either share custody or he would have periodic visitation.
ProfessorMiao on June 26, 2009 at 8:35 AM
What the …?
Sanford’s career is over because he couldn’t keep his *cough* in his pants and he decided to be derelict in his elected capacity without being relieved in a proper manner. Possibly even using taxpayer dollars, although that has not been proven yet.
Backing him as a person in understandable, but as a politician is just plain STUPID.
I don’t want to get all “True Scotsman” here, but I would like to think that conservatives considered the principle of accountability to the electorate before crass partisan gamesmanship.
flashoverride on June 26, 2009 at 8:36 AM
Stuck on stupid much? I in no way insinuated that what he did was justified. I will say that if he were not an elected official it would be a better solution than totally abdicating his responsibility as a father. If you think that women always stick by that “shared custody” “periodic visitation” garbage, go do some more research.
flashoverride on June 26, 2009 at 8:39 AM
You don’t just make assumptions about her, you make assumptions about everyone who, unlike you, has chosen not to attack her for her husband’s infidelity. YOUR wife must be a saint.
ProfessorMiao on June 26, 2009 at 8:40 AM
Would you feel the same way if the straying one is the wife?
ProfessorMiao on June 26, 2009 at 8:43 AM
You must be a woman because you are very able at parsing my comments and twisting my words. Yes, woman can drive men away from them. No, it isn’t right to cheat. Men who are alienated from their wives by withdrawal of intimacy should divorce their wives.
You are setting up the strawman that I believe women are responsible for men’s cheating, I never said it, the implication only exists in your mind.
Bill C on June 26, 2009 at 8:43 AM
Actually MY wife is: really is a strong woman, a great cook, a fantastic lover, a great partner in a card game, a great singer, a great dancer, a great welder, a great roofer, a great transplant donor, a great insurance salesman, a great diplomat, plumber and mother.
AND..a Saint in a few years.
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 8:46 AM
So, you would go into denial mode despite the fact that your spouse’s extramarital affair is all over the news? That doesn’t seem too healthy for the kids either. The right answer would have been for the MSM to have shown a little more decorum in how they treated this news story (I’ll wait for you to stop laughing). This is really nobody’s business but the Sanfords and certainly doesn’t deserve a media stakeout at Sullivan’s Island.
P.S. I’m not so sure what she said in that clip really is “badmouthing” Mark Sanford.
highhopes on June 26, 2009 at 8:48 AM
Actually it’s fun to rattle cages. Blame the wife in some convoluted way in here..stand back and watch the fireworks.
But the Ms Sanford Admiration Society Meeting was a bit much.
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Dollars to doughnuts, she is frigid and not much in the bedroom – women like that can unconsciously force a man to look elsewhere out of desparation. Still, sad all around – especially for the kids to have to live with.
Friendly21 on June 26, 2009 at 8:51 AM
Wow, one could do a thesis using this thread! So much projection, conjecture, anger, bitterness going on. I’ve learned a great deal about those posting here, I believe. For the record, I don’t know what kind of relationship the Sanfords had. I know she’s worked hard on his career, as he also has. I do not approve of the way he trashed his family in this affair. One can always act with dignity and do the right thing. He chose not to do that. I’ve lost respect for him.
zeebeach on June 26, 2009 at 8:52 AM
I wouldn’t back any candidate of either party if they showed a lack of character. Frankly, I couldn’t back Sanford as a person either. Real men with four children at home don’t go flitting off to Argentina to pursue another woman.
highhopes on June 26, 2009 at 8:53 AM
Having once served in uniform, I can tell you without qualificiation that this happens more often than you seem willing to admit.
You always knew when a deployment had happened because the e-club was stocked heavier than usual.
Again, you seem to think that I’m justifying his actions. Hey, I’m married too and my wife in I get in constant spats over workload. You know why divorce is not an option? Because we have two kids. You know why cheating isn’t an option for me personally? Because the inside of my wedding band is inscribed Semper Fidelis and that means something to me.
That being said, I am not everyone else, and what applies to me personally, in a moral sense, does not neccesarily apply to everyone else, including Mr. Sanford.
I take issue with his dereliction above all else, his use of taxpayer funds (or not) next, and his deceit third. His infidelity matters on a personal moral level I suppose but I don’t expect politicians to be supermen.
The reason I’m so critical of the general consent in this comments thread is that I personally have known hosts of decieving, conniving women. I am unwilling to give this woman any more of the benefit of the doubt than I am any other random woman I’ve never met. Remember, she did kick him out of the house two weeks before this incident – why was that, and how did it factor in? These things do not happen in a vacuum.
flashoverride on June 26, 2009 at 8:54 AM
Okay, I’m ready to run this woman with Palin. Any takers? The whole Steel Magnolia thing will drag the Hillary voters back across the aisle.
Seriously, Governor Midlife Crisis is a total schmuck for fooling around on this woman. Wow. What a maroon.
Oh well, at least we have begun the winnowing process in the Party early. Gotta get the Clydes out.
victor82 on June 26, 2009 at 8:55 AM
I am not “setting up a strawman.” I am not “parsing your comments and twisting your words.”
Bill, How else should anyone interpret
?
To me that implies causality. Some wives drive men to cheat. There is no parsing there.
In your further response, you have clarified, and I agree, that wives can drive husbands away from them. But let’s make it clear that only husbands can drive themselves to cheat.
(I will ignore your comments about my supposed gender and method of discourse. I did not make any personal comments about you and think that is unfair that you did.)
freemo on June 26, 2009 at 8:58 AM
flashoverride on June 26, 2009 at 9:00 AM
I am saying that we have other priorities right now than jumping on the “hate Sanford” bandwagon. Yes, I am disappointed in him – on many levels. But to continually harangue?
Sanford is a distraction. Pray for him, but today our focus needs to be cap and trade. Do you realize that we are facing the largest tax in history? For what?
I am a librarian. I constantly weed our collection. Guess what? I was weeding the 500′s last year and guess what the big issue was in the science books that I pulled? Global warming? Heck no. Scientist were CONVINCED that we were entering an ice age.
The House votes on Cap and Trade today….
libertylady on June 26, 2009 at 9:00 AM
I wasn’t implying that women don’t have affairs, too (although less often, if the data are believable).
But if you knew your wife was having an affair, would you stay in the marriage for the kids? Would you collude with your wife to hide it from the kids? Would you expect your wife to end the affair and work with you to rebuild the marriage?
ProfessorMiao on June 26, 2009 at 9:00 AM
Aw geez. I never comment on here. Did I get dragged into debating with a known troll or something? ;-)
Well, that’s enough for me I suppose. I’m out!
Enjoy your days everyone!
freemo on June 26, 2009 at 9:01 AM
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