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Yeah, that’s my take on it. Same goes for the Spitzers.
Upstater85 on June 25, 2009 at 11:16 PM
I pray things work out for her and her family.
boomer on June 25, 2009 at 11:16 PM
GOP women are rock solid!
TN Mom on June 25, 2009 at 11:17 PM
I wonder what she wouldn’t do that drove him away.
Jeff from WI on June 25, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Some men just don’t get it.
He probably just wanted someone to coddle him.
Upstater85 on June 25, 2009 at 11:18 PM
Yep. Give credit where credit is due.
terryannonline on June 25, 2009 at 11:19 PM
Just. Friggin. Class.
Sugar Land on June 25, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Upstater:
I was not talking about Lieberman, I was talking about Graham. If conservatives want to oust him they can try to do that. No one is stopping them. The last time they tried that they picked someone with past ties to the KKK. Not too smart. My only point is that Graham often times votes the way conservatives want, not always, but enough to make him an improvement over the Democrats.
As for this situation. The lady says she is willing to take her husband back. Will she write a book? I have no idea. What does it matter? I am not going to judge Vitter’s wife or any other woman in that situation. It is not my place, I can’t read their minds. You can by cynical if you like.
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Imagine all the liberal heads that would explode into a pink mist from the faux-rage.
Thunderstorm129 on June 25, 2009 at 10:39 PM
That would beat any 4th of July display, and it would last for months.
Seriously, maybe this is the beginning of an era when strong conservative women will give the GOP a much-needed makeover (pun intended).
NebCon on June 25, 2009 at 11:22 PM
church and Upstater:
So your take is that the Democratic women whose husbands cheats are fakes, but the Republican women are not?
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:22 PM
This is a nice antidote to all those idiotic posts from yesterday (sorry, folks) saying how those hot Latina chicas really know how to please their men, unlike those cold icy Anglos. Give me a friggin’ break.
ddrintn on June 25, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Jekyll and Hyde level personality change? Not bloody likely. If she’s a milk toast door mat by day – and that’s what she would be if she “takes him back” – I highly doubt she is going to be Xena Warrior Princess by night.
Joe Bloggs on June 25, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Ousting Graham anytime would be absolutely stupid. We hardly have any leaders and he is one the few in the GOPers in the Senate who can appear on television and do a good job. Not smart.
terryannonline on June 25, 2009 at 11:23 PM
terryannonline:
I am just saying that if they want to get rid of him, there is a way to do it. I am not saying they should.
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:25 PM
Meant to write:
Ousting Graham anytime soon would be absolutely stupid.
terryannonline on June 25, 2009 at 11:25 PM
I suspect she started dealing with her pain months ago. This today is not a surprise. So if she files, does she get the govs mansion and he gets the fishing cabin?
seven on June 25, 2009 at 11:25 PM
I know. Just sayin’ ousting him at this time would be stupid.
terryannonline on June 25, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Many years ago when I was home nursing my sick father my husband had a fling. The woman got pregnant. I could not have children. Imagine what it was like to not only find out your husband was unfaithful, but to find out the other woman was having the child you could not have.
So, I acted like I did not care. I did not give any of the gossiping, snickering, nosey, sanctimonious and oh so well meaning people any reason to feel sorry for me. I am sure that a lot of them thought I was cold about it, or unfeeling, but what was going on inside me was none of their business.
Terrye on June 25, 2009
Wow!
You have my admiration!
Marsh on June 25, 2009 at 11:26 PM
seven:
I think you are probably right. I would think she knew or suspected that her husband was in love with someone else.
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:26 PM
But why not talk about Lieberman. He votes with Conservatives a lot of the time. In fact, he seems to fit in well with McCain and Graham on many issues. So why can’t we give Lieberman credit when he does vote “our” way?
Also, I never said we should kick Graham out of the party. But voting him out of his current spot might serve his current constituents better. Do you agree?
I tend to be cynical. Normally, I wouldn’t give her the benefit of the doubt. Then I saw this video. She doesn’t seem to care about saving her spot in the governing class. That’s refreshing. Do you agree she handled herself better than many politician’s spouses do in such situations?
Upstater85 on June 25, 2009 at 11:26 PM
No, I gave you an example of a Republican with Vitter. You said you didn’t care.
Upstater85 on June 25, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Marsh:
Well, we did get a divorce in the end, but it was years later and that was not what finished the marriage off. Like most relationships, it was complicated. Things like that usually are.
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:28 PM
I wasn’t here yesterday, but if that’s the case, that’s ridiculous.
Upstater85 on June 25, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Upstater:
Yes, I don’t care. It is none of my business. I have no idea what transpired between Vitter and his wife between closed doors. I have no idea that it was just the career that kept her there or not. And what is more, Sanford’s wife might end up taking him back too. Not my business.
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:30 PM
So you agree I am not singling out Republicans?
Upstater85 on June 25, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Oh my gosh. That comment was so devoid of any intelligence I scarcely know where to begin. lol!
Well maybe you’ll figure it out after your 3rd or 4th divorce, Bubba.
kg598301 on June 25, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Joe Bloggs on June 25, 2009 at 11:22 PM
“Taking him back” doesn’t make her a doormat. She’s stated why and under what conditions she will do so.
She believes in marriage, and parents raising children in stability. She believes that harmed marriages can be restored.
She’s not saying “do what you want and I’ll deal with it.” She’s saying Sanford has a chance to heal the breach. If he wants to make the effort and jump through the necessary hoops (probably counseling, reestablishing trust over time etc.) she’ll work with him to rebuild their family. If he doesn’t, fine also. She’s going to live her life and raise her sons, with or without him.
cs89 on June 25, 2009 at 11:32 PM
She is to strong and has to much class for Mark.
They have some absolutely beautiful children also.
What the he!! was this dumba$$ thinking.
Kind of reminds me of Kristie Brinkley’s recent ex throwing the Hampton’s lifestyle away along with one of the most beautiful women in the world combined with great kids for the check out girl at Toys-R-Us.
Complete dumba$$.
Baxter Greene on June 25, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Upstater:
Sheesh. First you made a point of talking about Democrats like Edwards and all that and if I remember correctly you mentioned some other Democrat. Then you added on Vitter.
The idea being that these women were milking it or whatever.
Unlike you who can go on the internet using a fake ID, these people have their lives out there in the open for all and sundry to gossip about and comment on. I am just saying that we don’t know what their true feelings always are. What they say in front of the cameras is not always the whole story.
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Marsh:
Well, we did get a divorce in the end, but it was years later and that was not what finished the marriage off. Like most relationships, it was complicated. Things like that usually are.
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Yes, I understand.
Experiencing that would crush the strongest of people.
Remaining composed throughout, is almost unimaginable to me.
Wish I knew you in real life!
Marsh on June 25, 2009 at 11:37 PM
Are you female?
Joe Bloggs on June 25, 2009 at 11:37 PM
And here’s your previous post.
Terry, you did kind of imply something that wasn’t true.
Upstater85 on June 25, 2009 at 11:38 PM
She rocks!
D2Boston on June 25, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Why does that matter?
Upstater85 on June 25, 2009 at 11:39 PM
How about she run for Governor?
csdeven on June 25, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Marsh:
hmmmmm. Are you messing with me?
Stuff like that happens to people everyday. There is nothing unusual about it.
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:39 PM
From Wikipedia:
Just had to check a little because, as a Southerner, this First Lady’s accent struck me as “imported.” Far as I’m concerned this Illinois true lady has absorbed as much if not even a little more charm and class as any of us natives. Jenny Sanford’s dedication and courage makes us “girls raised in the South” (GRITS) very proud to call her a sister!
marybel on June 25, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Upstater:
I did that because I am a bad person. I lie all the time.
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:40 PM
WTF Sanford????
therightwinger on June 25, 2009 at 11:41 PM
Haha
As a Yank, I really thought her accent was real. Glad you checked.
Upstater85 on June 25, 2009 at 11:41 PM
Well, I appreciate you acknowledging that I wasn’t being partial.
Upstater85 on June 25, 2009 at 11:42 PM
Marsh:
hmmmmm. Are you messing with me?
Stuff like that happens to people everyday. There is nothing unusual about it.
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:39 PM
No. I’d never joke about this.
Adultery does happen to far too many marriages, but it is a rare person who could suffer through it w/o falling apart.
Marsh on June 25, 2009 at 11:43 PM
It can have a profound effect on how one views what constitutes a “door mat”.
Joe Bloggs on June 25, 2009 at 11:43 PM
Perhaps. I don’t really see how gender could have a profound affect on all of this… Men and women both have affairs in our society. Both are equally unacceptable.
Upstater85 on June 25, 2009 at 11:45 PM
Upstater:
In fact this was the post I was responding to:
L
If I misunderstood, then I was wrong. Happens all the time.
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Totally disagree..he’s dragging conservatives down big time. And he’s doing it because he doesn’t give a damn about anything but getting his jollies off.
AUINSC on June 25, 2009 at 11:47 PM
Marsh:
Who says I did not fall apart? I just kept the falling apart to myself. I was not going to give the busy bodies any more ammunition.
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:47 PM
AUINSC:
Graham is getting his jollies off?
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:48 PM
LOL..well I’ve been happily married for almost 36 years.
Jeff from WI on June 25, 2009 at 11:49 PM
It’s always the woman’s fault. Whether it’s the trollop who entices him, knowing he’s married.Or the old shrew nagging the man to death.
Jeff from WI on June 25, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Upstater:
I think you are partial, most of us are. Sometimes we just don’t know it. I honestly felt that you were being harder on Edwards’ wife, because she was a Democrat. If I was wrong, then I was wrong.
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:50 PM
Well, I don’t know. What do you think my point was?
I’m just saying that when women stick by their man’s career as many have such as Hillary, Mrs. Edwards, Mrs. Spitzer, and Mrs. Vitter, one has to wonder their motives. No, scratch that, when Mrs. Edwards calls Ann Coulter on national television to tell her to tone it down, but then more or less accepts her husbands adultery and him perhaps using his son’s death for political gain, but then invokes privacy when the sh*t hits the fan… Well, I think that speaks for itself. At least to me. Maybe not you.
Upstater85 on June 25, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Well I guess it would depend who you would replace him with… all I’m saying if you want 2 want to replace him at this time it better be some pretty damn good. Right now he one of the few GOPers in the senate who know how to make arguments well. He’s smart and articulate.
terryannonline on June 25, 2009 at 11:53 PM
Well, then why would I inject Vitter. Here’s the pictures…
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/08/09/Vitters-thumb-425×307.jpg
Yeah, real man. Bring your wife up with you to tell the world you paid a woman to “comfort” you. Yeah, I have just about as much disdain for this. And why she’d go along with it, still baffles me.
Upstater85 on June 25, 2009 at 11:54 PM
Marsh:
Who says I did not fall apart? I just kept the falling apart to myself. I was not going to give the busy bodies any more ammunition.
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:47 PM
Ah, ok.
I thought you acted as though it did not bother you in front of your H.
Marsh on June 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM
IN regards to:
The problem with Repubs like graham is that they always fail conservatives when it really matters most….just like the other RINOs
exsanguine on June 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM
Joe Lieberman is smart and articulate. He’s even passionate. He also votes with “us” some of the time. Would you support a conservative who ran against him?
Upstater85 on June 25, 2009 at 11:55 PM
If I were you, Jeff, I’d add a /sarc really quick. That comment is red meat on this thread, and you might be buying yourself a well-deserved heap of trouble.
marybel on June 25, 2009 at 11:56 PM
In this particular instance, there is some truth to what you say. Why isn’t their more outrage over the woman in Argentina?
Upstater85 on June 25, 2009 at 11:57 PM
Upstater:
I think you are assuming too much. For one thing, sometimes Coulter does go too far. On purpose, that is her MO. That is how she makes a living.
I am not surprised that any liberal would feel compelled to tell her tone it down. As for whether she accepts her husband’s adultery…what does that even mean? It happened, she has no choice but to accept it. That does not mean she is not going to tell Coulter to tone it down. I mean come on.
As for Vitter’s wife, you are assuming once again that you know she was doing it for his career. As if you can read her mind.
You can not know that. You just can not. All sorts of women stay with men after they do things like this. It is not as if the only women who do are ones who are married to politicians.
Terrye on June 25, 2009 at 11:57 PM
I wonder what kind of a weak a** man (not to mention a Governor) couldn’t work it out with his wife and save the family the pain and embarassment of an affair?
Or, you’re just intentionally trying to amp this thread up…
thevastlane on June 25, 2009 at 11:57 PM
I’m not going to beat up on a woman for taking back a cheating husband when she has 4 young children. Its not like a Hillary situation where Chelsea was the only child and almost an adult when Lewinsky happened.
Speedwagon82 on June 25, 2009 at 11:58 PM
Really…the guy who replaces him needs to be really good..because he’s so unfreakingbelieavably awesome and all? His replacement is a Repub…not a particularly good one, but good enough until the next election…Sanford has to go..but he’s fighting it all the way down…not for us, but for himself…do some research.
AUINSC on June 25, 2009 at 11:59 PM
Depends the on candidate, actually. I look at people’s voting records but also whether they are competent and up to the job. And you have to admit Lindsey Graham is more conservative than Joe Lieberman.
terryannonline on June 26, 2009 at 12:00 AM
I wonder what she wouldn’t do that drove him away.
Jeff from WI on June 25, 2009 at 11:17 PM
I wonder what kind of a weak a** man (not to mention a Governor) couldn’t work it out with his wife and save the family the pain and embarassment of an affair?
Or, you’re just intentionally trying to amp this thread up…
thevastlane on June 25, 2009 at 11:57 PM
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 12:00 AM
AUINSC:
There is nothing stopping anyone from running against Graham. If people want to replace him, then they should find a viable candidate and do it….instead of constantly complaining.
Terrye on June 26, 2009 at 12:01 AM
As Marsh said so eloquently, I think, last night, the governor is “100% responsible for the affair.” That woman in Argentina is a whole other topic.
marybel on June 26, 2009 at 12:01 AM
What are you talking about? This isn’t about Graham…it’s about an AWOL Governor…geez.
AUINSC on June 26, 2009 at 12:02 AM
LOL..well I’ve been happily married for almost 36 years.
Jeff from WI on June 25, 2009 at 11:49 PM
Proof positive that your tongue was planted firmly in your cheek when you wrote your other posts.
Marsh on June 26, 2009 at 12:02 AM
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 12:02 AM
That’s easy!
Shy Guy on June 26, 2009 at 12:02 AM
What a great mom. Family first the way it should be. Hopefully Mr. Sanford will decide to be a dad again. Unfortunatly he didn’t manage to be a good governor and a good husband at the same time.
Tim Pancoast on June 26, 2009 at 12:03 AM
She seems like a nice lady. But as Prager said today, who knows?
Clip here:
http://nicholasjacob.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/dennis-prager-if-you-dont-like-one-affair-in-the-course-of-a-20-year-marriage-then-john-kennedy-should-be-a-piece-of-crap-in-your-eyes/
nickj116 on June 26, 2009 at 12:03 AM
I don’t Republicans do what the “progressives” do and try oust people who are not ideological pure (see Lieberman). I like the fact that Republicans are more ideological diverse.
terryannonline on June 26, 2009 at 12:03 AM
AUINSC:
Actaully terryonline was talking about Graham and I was responding to that. You misunderstood. Go back and read the thread.
Terrye on June 26, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Yeah, I read up…thanks for pointing me in the right direction there.
AUINSC on June 26, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Yes, she [Coulter] does have an MO. It doesn’t mean that Liz had to phone it in. If she wanted hold the same standard with her husband, wouldn’t she have called a TV show to tell them how hurtful his actions were. I guess it didn’t serve her so well. And let’s see what Coulter said…
“(Kerry) was even queasier about Edwards after they met. Edwards had told Kerry he was going to share a story with him that he’d never told anyone else — that after his son Wade had been killed, he climbed onto the slab at the funeral home, laid there and hugged his body, and promised that he’d do all he could to make life better for people, to live up to Wade’s ideals of service. Kerry was stunned, not moved, because, as he told me later, Edwards had recounted the same exact story to him, almost in the exact same words, a year or two before — and with the same preface, that he’d never shared the memory with anyone else. Kerry said he found it chilling, and he decided he couldn’t pick Edwards unless he met with him again.”
True I guess she does accept it. She just doesn’t have much to say about it till she gets the book deal and Oprah’s show…
Can’t read her mind. I just know it was strange. Do you think what she did was appropriate?
I realize this – unfortunately from personal experience. That said, many of them stay with their man in a more private way…
Upstater85 on June 26, 2009 at 12:07 AM
AUINSC:
This is what I was referring to:
f conservatives want to oust him they can try to do that. No one is stopping them.
Ousting Graham anytime would be absolutely stupid. We hardly have any leaders and he is one the few in the GOPers in the Senate who can appear on television and do a good job. Not smart.
I think we got our Republicans confused.
Terrye on June 26, 2009 at 12:07 AM
BTW, if anybody cares, I think we just lost cap and trade.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/06/023896.php
AUINSC on June 26, 2009 at 12:09 AM
By your standards, it doesn’t necessarily matter if he’s more conservative or not. So long as he’s got leadership skills and is smart or articulate. So if we use the more conservative argument, would you want someone more conservative than Graham in his seat?
Upstater85 on June 26, 2009 at 12:09 AM
Yeah, but we just won the WH in 2012.
nickj116 on June 26, 2009 at 12:10 AM
But Graham himself seems to turn his nose at ideological diversity…
Upstater85 on June 26, 2009 at 12:10 AM
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 12:00 AM
I’m just going with the facts we have right now. Look, I get it. Sometimes women play a part in driving men away. However, they’ve been married for some time now and if there were issues he should have brought them up and they could have dealt with them, or just split. If she were that awful he could have been honest yesterday and said “look, shes’s an evil shrew”, but he didn’t. When YOU are the politician you have to know you are always held to the higher standard. I don’t know enough about the other woman to comment. I’ve heard she was married as well, or not…either way what she did was wrong!
thevastlane on June 26, 2009 at 12:11 AM
Upstater:
Why shouldn’t she call in? Maybe she thinks Coulter was trying to use her situation for political purposes and she did not like that. If Coulter is going to talk about, then it should not come as a surprise that one of the people involved might respond.
Was what Vitter’s wife did appropriate?What does that even mean? It is her business, appropriate has nothing to do with it.
Maybe she felt like I did in a similar situation and she did not want to give the tongue waggers the satisfaction of seeing her pitch a big fit in public.
Terrye on June 26, 2009 at 12:12 AM
Watch MSNBC if you dare. While Fox was covering the White House and that nightmare, CNN was covering Congress – MSNBC, you guessed it…… they were covering the Nixon tapes.
Seriously, they have totally earned the title PMSNBC now. Honest to God – they are covering the NIXON TAPES!
JeffinOrlando on June 26, 2009 at 12:15 AM
No, given that Edwards was involved, it’s not surprising that she publicly (right or wrong) confronted Coulter. I guess the rest was too personal or sacred for her to publicly comment on…
Just because it’s her business doesn’t mean that what she did was appropriate.
Perhaps.
Alas, I must go. I don’t see us settling this. True, there are assumptions made, but this doesn’t mean that we can’t judge people from the actions they take. We do this with each other daily. Discernment is something good to have. Although everyone is free to handle such a situation how they will, I will say that Mrs. Sanford has come off as a class act. Does this mean I won’t be disappointed in her behavior in the future? I don’t know. I can say though that it seems quite apparent (no big leap of faith), that her motives are for her children only. She could give a rat’s behind about her husband’s political future. I wish this had been more apparent in previous “failed” politician’s wife’s responses.
Upstater85 on June 26, 2009 at 12:20 AM
eff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 12:00 AM
I’m just going with the facts we have right now. Look, I get it. Sometimes women play a part in driving men away.
So you’re basically saying that, in this case, the female gender COULD be 2/3 at fault.
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 12:21 AM
If the person met the requirements I spelled out ealier then yes I would with someone more conservative replacing. Look the GOP is not doing well right & I don’t want to start ousting people who I feel are doing a good job because they don’t meet some conservative litmus test.
terryannonline on June 26, 2009 at 12:25 AM
Two things bother me about Jenny Sanford.
1) This interview at the end of the driveway did not need to happen especially if she is trying to keep this low profile. Were her kids in the car? The classy thing to do is not talk to the press.
2) She grew up in Winnetka, Il., a very wealthy suburb of Chicago. The whole ice queen anglo angle of Mark Sanford’s decision to cheat gains a lot of credibility given she might just be another trust funder from Winnetka.
Bill C on June 26, 2009 at 12:25 AM
So you’re basically saying that, in this case, the female gender COULD be 2/3 at fault.
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Interesting math.
Sanford and his ho were 100% responsible for the affair.
Mrs. Sanford was responsible for 50% of the condition of the marriage.
Sanford the other 50%.
Marsh on June 26, 2009 at 12:30 AM
Actually, I don’t quite think so. FYI from Wikipedia:
Bill, I think Mrs. Sullivan is a quite accomplished woman in her own right. There’s lots more at Wikipedia that speaks very well of what a quality person the governor married. You might want to think first before you go unfairly disparaging Jenny Sanford.
With that, I bid you all sweet dreams.
marybel on June 26, 2009 at 12:35 AM
I think now would be a great time for David Letterman to make some crass jokes about Mrs. Sanford, what with her getting some positive attention and all. You know no conservative is allowed to get positive attention, right? Those people are to be marginalized, outcast, and trivialized.
Go Dave, go! You used to be funny. Now you’re just a douche bag who struggles with wanting to be taken seriously in life.
thebadoutlaw on June 26, 2009 at 12:37 AM
So you’re basically saying that, in this case, the female gender COULD be 2/3 at fault.
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 12:21 AM
LOL..er..somethin’like that I spose
Jeff from WI on June 26, 2009 at 12:37 AM
Sorry, Mrs. Sanford, Sullivan was her maiden name.
marybel on June 26, 2009 at 12:37 AM
Why are you so invested in the female gender being at fault?
Sanford didn’t exactly make the case for himself in that press conference, and that’s what we have at this point to evaluate. Not that it should matter; if we are judging this based on the political ramifications, the facts we have are what we have.
For the record, I agree with Mrs. Sanford. I believe in marriage and family and that seems to be what she is concentrating on. She’s not out there bashing him or blaming him. I realize there are women who go out of their way to seduce men, but there are men that do it as well. Nothing about this situation is great. I’m just curious about your stance in terms of the female sex. Do you have personal experience?
thevastlane on June 26, 2009 at 12:44 AM
For f@@ks sake Mark….for F@@k sakes!
She is making everyone hate him even more by showing this level of calm and class.
Dritanian on June 26, 2009 at 12:47 AM
Why are you so invested in the female gender being at fault?
He’s messing w/ you.
Trying to get a rise out of us “women folk.”
He’s been happily married for 36 years.
Bet he’d dunk our pigtails in ink if he could.
Marsh on June 26, 2009 at 12:50 AM
For the record I meant personal experience with cheating…not females in general.
thevastlane on June 26, 2009 at 12:51 AM
I guess I should have been more succinct. You don’t grow up in Winnetka unless your family has money and there is a pretty good chance that she thinks her sh&t doesn’t stink do to the curriculum vitae you posted, ergo she is not likely the type of woman to put her all into satisfying her husband. The fact that he cheated on her, it seems, only once after 20 years makes it likely that he isn’t Clintonesque but even a very good husband will not forgo a sex life.
Listen to Dennis Prager’s take on this before you beatify Jenny Sanford.
Bill C on June 26, 2009 at 12:52 AM
I wondered that in my first post. I was just wondering if he would fess up. Typical of a GIRLY MAN not to I guess.
thevastlane on June 26, 2009 at 12:53 AM
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