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	<title>Comments on: Video: Apache gunship engages in &#8220;robust debate&#8221; with Taliban</title>
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		<title>By: angus mcbeemer</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/24/video-apache-gunship-engages-in-robust-debate-with-taliban/comment-page-2/#comment-2350068</link>
		<dc:creator>angus mcbeemer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps U.S. weapons should fire projectiles with the &quot;Miranda Rights&quot; micro-tagged on the outer case. Hey, big brother thinks it&#039;s a good idea to bar code civillian ammo. You know, just to help solve crimes or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps U.S. weapons should fire projectiles with the &#8220;Miranda Rights&#8221; micro-tagged on the outer case. Hey, big brother thinks it&#8217;s a good idea to bar code civillian ammo. You know, just to help solve crimes or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Kuffar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kuffar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>War Porn   ---   Love It</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>War Porn   &#8212;   Love It</p>
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		<title>By: Geronimo</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/24/video-apache-gunship-engages-in-robust-debate-with-taliban/comment-page-2/#comment-2350001</link>
		<dc:creator>Geronimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That video is arousing. Good job soldiers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That video is arousing. Good job soldiers.</p>
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		<title>By: olesparkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>olesparkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has Rep. Murtha (D-PA) requested prosecution of our troops for opening fire before reading the &quot;suspects&quot; their Miranda rights?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has Rep. Murtha (D-PA) requested prosecution of our troops for opening fire before reading the &#8220;suspects&#8221; their Miranda rights?</p>
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		<title>By: tx2654</title>
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		<dc:creator>tx2654</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet.</p>
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		<title>By: El Coqui</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/24/video-apache-gunship-engages-in-robust-debate-with-taliban/comment-page-2/#comment-2349760</link>
		<dc:creator>El Coqui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Made my nipples hard!&lt;/strong&gt;

HornetSting on June 24, 2009 at 8:42 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;


I&#039;ll be at my bunk!.
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><strong>Made my nipples hard!</strong></p>
<p>HornetSting on June 24, 2009 at 8:42 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll be at my bunk!.<br />
:)</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty or Death</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty or Death</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Must have read his own rights.

Texyank on June 24, 2009 at 9:18 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Heh...good one!  As far as I&#039;m concerned these fascist jihadists only have two rights, the right to surrender or the right to DIE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Must have read his own rights.</p>
<p>Texyank on June 24, 2009 at 9:18 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Heh&#8230;good one!  As far as I&#8217;m concerned these fascist jihadists only have two rights, the right to surrender or the right to DIE!</p>
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		<title>By: spmat</title>
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		<dc:creator>spmat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoy the virgins.. we&#039;ll be here all year.</description>
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		<title>By: Video: Apache gunship engages in </title>
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		<dc:creator>Video: Apache gunship engages in </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: imperator</title>
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		<dc:creator>imperator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the reason why we can win the ground war in Afghan. as opposed to the USSR and their behemoth going down, the enemy don&#039;t have an answer for our helicopters as they did to the Hinds of the Soviets ( per our Stingers and night time evasion). And they don&#039;t own the night, as we have seen here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the reason why we can win the ground war in Afghan. as opposed to the USSR and their behemoth going down, the enemy don&#8217;t have an answer for our helicopters as they did to the Hinds of the Soviets ( per our Stingers and night time evasion). And they don&#8217;t own the night, as we have seen here.</p>
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		<title>By: MSGTAS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSGTAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somewhat better than Vietnam where to get permission to fire you had to wait for Congress to vote on it and the President to sign it into law as an executive order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somewhat better than Vietnam where to get permission to fire you had to wait for Congress to vote on it and the President to sign it into law as an executive order.</p>
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		<title>By: Fletch54</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fletch54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Thunderstorm129 on June 25, 2009 at 10:06 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It was a heads down shot, not IHAADS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thunderstorm129 on June 25, 2009 at 10:06 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>It was a heads down shot, not IHAADS.</p>
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		<title>By: Thunderstorm129</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thunderstorm129</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if the gunner had the 30mm on helmet lock or if this was TADS? The idea of looking at someone and squeezing off a few without worrying about aiming...well, that&#039;s just about friggin awesome.  


Hey..look over there...a cow....


ooops.

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if the gunner had the 30mm on helmet lock or if this was TADS? The idea of looking at someone and squeezing off a few without worrying about aiming&#8230;well, that&#8217;s just about friggin awesome.  </p>
<p>Hey..look over there&#8230;a cow&#8230;.</p>
<p>ooops.</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: Avoiding the Healthcare Infomercial? Here&#8217;s something a little different</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avoiding the Healthcare Infomercial? Here&#8217;s something a little different</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Avoiding the Healthcare Infomercial? Here&#8217;s something a little different  Posted at June 25, 2009     Video: Apache gunship engages in “robust debate” with Taliban [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dr Evil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Evil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-pakistan-mahsud25-2009jun25,0,6915879.story?track=rss&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Next Time&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: BetseyRoss</title>
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		<dc:creator>BetseyRoss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep thinking that this could have been over years ago if we didn&#039;t have to fight a politically correct war.  But then we live in strange times.  We have such an awesome military.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep thinking that this could have been over years ago if we didn&#8217;t have to fight a politically correct war.  But then we live in strange times.  We have such an awesome military.</p>
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		<title>By: sabbott</title>
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		<dc:creator>sabbott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love our military!  Our Commander in Chief...not so much...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love our military!  Our Commander in Chief&#8230;not so much&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: scalleywag</title>
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		<dc:creator>scalleywag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just have to say that was one snappy headline.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have to say that was one snappy headline.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Fletch54</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fletch54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;dcpolwarth on June 25, 2009 at 7:21 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Each 30 mm HEPD round has a bursting radius of approx 15 meters.  The gunner doesn&#039;t have to be that close with point of impact to personnel targets to have effects on them.  By the looks of the video, I would presume the Taliban could hear the Apache but could not see it due to its lights out condition, darkness and surrounding steep terrain. That is why they did not scatter until rounds impacted.

 Also, the sound of it&#039;s rotors echoes off the surrounding terrain making it damn near impossible to pinpoint where its coming from.  Add in its stand off range and it&#039;s like shooting fish in a barrel.

As for the self exploding Taliban- he either took the easy way out deliberately or he snagged his explosive belt/vest on the ground where he lay.  Either way, he&#039;s a pink misted memory on tape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>dcpolwarth on June 25, 2009 at 7:21 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Each 30 mm HEPD round has a bursting radius of approx 15 meters.  The gunner doesn&#8217;t have to be that close with point of impact to personnel targets to have effects on them.  By the looks of the video, I would presume the Taliban could hear the Apache but could not see it due to its lights out condition, darkness and surrounding steep terrain. That is why they did not scatter until rounds impacted.</p>
<p> Also, the sound of it&#8217;s rotors echoes off the surrounding terrain making it damn near impossible to pinpoint where its coming from.  Add in its stand off range and it&#8217;s like shooting fish in a barrel.</p>
<p>As for the self exploding Taliban- he either took the easy way out deliberately or he snagged his explosive belt/vest on the ground where he lay.  Either way, he&#8217;s a pink misted memory on tape.</p>
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		<title>By: curved space</title>
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		<dc:creator>curved space</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very satisfying viewing.</description>
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		<title>By: dcpolwarth</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcpolwarth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it remarkable how a comparatively slow-firing chain gun can do so much damage.  I presume they must be using high-calibre explosive shells, like mini grenades.  I know the Apache&#039;s cannon is designed to take out soft-skinned vehicles, but I was surprised how effective it was on personnel.  It&#039;s been a while since I read up on my military aviation, so I&#039;m a little behind the curve on this.

The other thing to notice is how dumb the Taliban are.  They all bunch up with no apparent lookout.  And as for the guy who blew himself up - was that deliberate?  Or did he overcook a grenade?

If these are the great Muslim Holy Warriors, I have to say Musilms are about as good at running military operations as they are at running a decent, tolerant governmental democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it remarkable how a comparatively slow-firing chain gun can do so much damage.  I presume they must be using high-calibre explosive shells, like mini grenades.  I know the Apache&#8217;s cannon is designed to take out soft-skinned vehicles, but I was surprised how effective it was on personnel.  It&#8217;s been a while since I read up on my military aviation, so I&#8217;m a little behind the curve on this.</p>
<p>The other thing to notice is how dumb the Taliban are.  They all bunch up with no apparent lookout.  And as for the guy who blew himself up &#8211; was that deliberate?  Or did he overcook a grenade?</p>
<p>If these are the great Muslim Holy Warriors, I have to say Musilms are about as good at running military operations as they are at running a decent, tolerant governmental democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaibones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaibones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As others have noted, the punch line is probably that it took so long for our guys to get &quot;approval&quot; to kill these murderous vermin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As others have noted, the punch line is probably that it took so long for our guys to get &#8220;approval&#8221; to kill these murderous vermin.</p>
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		<title>By: SuperCool</title>
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		<dc:creator>SuperCool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, that chain-gun&#039;s an ugly way to check out...

Ah well, it&#039;s the fate they chose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, that chain-gun&#8217;s an ugly way to check out&#8230;</p>
<p>Ah well, it&#8217;s the fate they chose.</p>
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		<title>By: RedbonePro</title>
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		<dc:creator>RedbonePro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like the time lag before asking to be able to fire, and the act of firing.

It also looks a lot like COD4...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like the time lag before asking to be able to fire, and the act of firing.</p>
<p>It also looks a lot like COD4&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ugly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t want to kill citizens, right


Maybe they requested permission to fire, like five times too many, with the assholes in their crosshairs.

Just a thought. I don&#039;t know Jack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t want to kill citizens, right</p>
<p>Maybe they requested permission to fire, like five times too many, with the assholes in their crosshairs.</p>
<p>Just a thought. I don&#8217;t know Jack.</p>
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