Video: Apache gunship engages in “robust debate” with Taliban

posted at 8:14 pm on June 24, 2009 by Allahpundit

An instant classic of warporn courtesy of Fox News. Between this and yesterday’s brilliantly ruthless two-step drone attack on Baitullah Mehsud’s gang, The One’s racking up quite a Taliban body count. Here’s to catching some very big fish:

Yesterday’s follow-on Predator attack at a funeral for a Taliban commander targeted senior Pakistani and Afghan leaders of the group. The death toll in the attack has jumped to 83, and two Taliban commanders were rumored to have been killed, although one commander targeted confirmed he was alive and an aide to another said the leader was not killed.

Pakistani Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud; Qari Hussain Mehsud, a senior commander in Baitullah’s network; and Mullah Sangeen Zadran, a field commander in the Haqqani Network in Afghanistan, were targeted in the Predator attack in Pakistan’s lawless tribal agency of South Waziristan.

The attack took place in the Ladha region as scores of Taliban leaders and fighters were attending the funeral of Khwaz Ali Mehsud, a mid-level commander in Baitullah’s network. The initial attack on the funeral procession was followed up with strikes on Taliban vehicles as they attempted to flee the attack site.

Meanwhile, in Iraq, things are taking a turn. An uptick in attacks was expected as the U.S. started pulling out of the cities — Maliki even warned the public recently to anticipate new terror aimed at undermining confidence in the Iraqi army — but it’s disturbing to think more Shiites might have died in Baghdad today from violence than in Tehran, the massacre in Baharestan Square notwithstanding. Presumably some Wahhabi outfit is the culprit, but after the past two weeks, I wouldn’t put anything past Iran. Not that I ever did before, but they need a distraction for the media right now and “Baghdad burning again” fits the bill nicely. Stay tuned.

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Seek and Destroy!

HornetSting on June 24, 2009 at 8:17 PM

You know, those 30mm cannon shells are a really good debating technique. Apache wins robust debate.

Brian1972 on June 24, 2009 at 8:18 PM

Dude.
It’s sad that they need to keep asking for permission.

jgapinoy on June 24, 2009 at 8:19 PM

America, F$ck yeah!! :)

Great video, its too bad it took so long to get clearance. One of my former copilots was there in F/A-18s on missions. Described one battle where a Special ops group was one side of a road, and taleban were on the other. The 18s expended all ammo, and resorted to even dropping wing tanks and flares, just to put something on target to help out our guys.

firepilot on June 24, 2009 at 8:19 PM

May they each meet 72 virgin…pigs.

jgapinoy on June 24, 2009 at 8:20 PM

Yessir!

nickj116 on June 24, 2009 at 8:20 PM

That was wicked good.

Do you suppose these clearances for action are meant to help blunt the orders that came down the other day to retreat if the Taliban are fighting from homes?

myrenovations on June 24, 2009 at 8:20 PM

Taliban win one battle of the war thanks to MSM

Taliban Make Human Shields Work
June 24, 2009: The U.S. has again changed their rules of engagement (ROE) in Afghanistan, in response to popular anger at civilians killed by American smart bombs. As a result, it’s much more difficult to get permission drop a smart bomb when there might be civilians nearby.
Taliban propaganda, and the enthusiasm of the media for jumping on real, or imagined, civilian deaths caused by foreign troops, made people forget that far more civilians (about four times as many) had been killed by the Taliban. But because Afghans have been conditioned to expect more civilized behavior from the foreign troops, much less media attention is paid to the civilians killed by the Taliban and al Qaeda.

Of course, Afghan civilians are aware of who is killing most of the civilians, and that’s why the Taliban and al Qaeda are moving down in the opinion polls. But the media hammering foreign troops get every time they kill a civilian, or are simply (often falsely) accused of doing so, has led to the ROE becoming far more strict than they ever were in Iraq. Thus one Taliban victory you don’t hear much about is how they turned their use of human shields into a powerful, and very successful, propaganda weapon against NATO and U.S. troops, and an excellent way to avoid many attacks by U.S. and NATO troops.

William Amos on June 24, 2009 at 8:20 PM

This sure beats “smart wiener diplomacy.”

BottomLine5 on June 24, 2009 at 8:21 PM

They rather be water boarded.

the_nile on June 24, 2009 at 8:21 PM

I’m sure as soon as 0bama finds out about this, he’ll issue an apology and send them some money… :P

Tuari on June 24, 2009 at 8:21 PM

That’s 14 less at the 4th BBQ.

TheBigOldDog on June 24, 2009 at 8:21 PM

Thank God for our military. Unfortunately, the “new” administration is already putting our troops on the defensive. Having to ask six times for permission to fire? That could be the difference between life and death for our troops.

HoustonRight on June 24, 2009 at 8:21 PM

VIPER LEAD AND DASH 2 are “CLEARED HOT” “SHACK”

DevilDoc77 on June 24, 2009 at 8:22 PM

A total good use of my tax dollars.

dentalque on June 24, 2009 at 8:23 PM

War porn ! its whats for breakfast!
and it does a body good !!!!!

ColdWarrior57 on June 24, 2009 at 8:23 PM

A little sprinkle from the Apache Magic Chef and voila! Jihadi soup.

Guardian on June 24, 2009 at 8:24 PM

PS. Were Miranda rights read to those Tangos before they were blown away? I sure hope not.

BottomLine5 on June 24, 2009 at 8:24 PM

just saw that vid on o’reilly. sa-weeeeeeeeeeeet!

homesickamerican on June 24, 2009 at 8:24 PM

Now that’s my kind of porn! Hooyah!

infidel4life on June 24, 2009 at 8:27 PM

Apparently no new roomies for GITMO.

Cindy Munford on June 24, 2009 at 8:27 PM

Raven feed.

Akzed on June 24, 2009 at 8:27 PM

You know, those 30mm cannon shells are a really good debating technique. Apache wins robust debate.

Brian1972 on June 24, 2009 at 8:18 PM
Thankyou I needed that.

LSUMama on June 24, 2009 at 8:28 PM

dentalque on June 24, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Sure is.

bazil9 on June 24, 2009 at 8:28 PM

Easy pickins for an Apache. Great gun run though.

Fletch54 on June 24, 2009 at 8:28 PM

God Bless Our Troops.

Question: Is it due to this Obamanation administration that they have to ask to fire upon the enemy?

tru2tx on June 24, 2009 at 8:29 PM

yeah baby, talk about reach out and touch someone…most definitely the absolute best military in the world…god bless them.

SHARPTOOTH on June 24, 2009 at 8:36 PM

Hey Afghanistan we’re in your air space :)

Dr Evil on June 24, 2009 at 8:37 PM

I hate the idea of killing.

That said, I rather AQ and Taliban die than Americans, Brits, and Aussies.

The Islamos started this, and they can end it any time they like.

Go, USA!

And, no, I give NO credit to Obama bin Laden. Bush set this standard, not the joker currently residing at 1600.

I’ve seen President Ford, in person, during one of his visits to my town. Back then, at age 17, I’d have taken a bullet for him if needed. And for every other president until the ‘winner’ of the 2008 election.

Bush set this standard, and his dad and Reagan before him. Obamination doesn’t rate.

Excellent job, United States military! Thank you for keeping us, and vets like me, safe from harm!

Liam on June 24, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Bullets are cheaper than room and board at Gitmo.

Light ‘em up!

Hog Wild on June 24, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Question: Is it due to this Obamanation administration that they have to ask to fire upon the enemy?

Yes. New ROE in effect as of last week that restricts firing into buildings or other structures where civilians may be located.

Fletch54 on June 24, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Gee, I wonder how many of their buddies will be at their funerals. Guessing -O-.

faol on June 24, 2009 at 8:38 PM

Figures FOX news would show this. If they had any journalistic integrity they would follow CNN’s lead and show US troops getting shot in the head by AQ snipers.

RobertInLexington on June 24, 2009 at 8:40 PM

May they each meet 72 virgin…pigs.

jgapinoy on June 24, 2009 at 8:20 PM

..and may they all be fugly.

War porn !

ColdWarrior57 on June 24, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Me likey !

unwashed minion on June 24, 2009 at 8:41 PM

WTF. Six requests to fire. Next the troops are going to have to fill out some form in triplicate to fight.

dpierson on June 24, 2009 at 8:41 PM

So long as the bullets had their Miranda Rights carved into the tip, I’m OK with this….

….this….this awesome display of fragtastic deliverance.

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Gee, I wonder how many of their buddies will be at their funerals. Guessing -O-.

faol on June 24, 2009 at 8:38 PM

thats a different attack, predators fired some damm damm on a taliban funeral killing about 83, a vid would be nice but i don’t know if there is one…

SHARPTOOTH on June 24, 2009 at 8:42 PM

An instant classic of warporn courtesy of Fox News.

Made my nipples hard!

HornetSting on June 24, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Made my nipples hard!

HornetSting on June 24, 2009 at 8:42 PM

TMI

No…no…what am I saying?

How hard? Like wheel nuts?

LimeyGeek on June 24, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Made my nipples hard!

HornetSting on June 24, 2009 at 8:42 PM

lmao

SHARPTOOTH on June 24, 2009 at 8:44 PM

That’s a tough set of rules for engagement. Six times.

patrick neid on June 24, 2009 at 8:45 PM

. Next the troops are going to have to fill out some form in triplicate to fight.

dpierson on June 24, 2009 at 8:41 PM

I believe that they have to do that upon return to base. I saw a soldier on Glenn Beck mention this.

thomasaur on June 24, 2009 at 8:45 PM

A total good use of my tax dollars.

dentalque on June 24, 2009 at 8:23 PM

And remember, each round expended needs to be replaced.

Finally, real stimulus!

massrighty on June 24, 2009 at 8:45 PM

This calls for some kick-azz tunes.

Ladies and Gentlemen, please enjoy Indestructible by Disturbed.

Lead singer Dave Draiman supports the troops.

Draiman: I couldn’t be more proud. You have to take it out of the context that they’re about to go take lives. To me, it’s as simple as these are our fighting men and women over in a foreign part of the world they’re not familiar with, in a war not many people understand, and they’re doing what they’re told to do. If they can get some sort of power from the music and come home safely by utilizing our music, I couldn’t be more proud. Whether you’re a soldier or an athlete or in any sort of competitive thing, any sort of physical activity that requires mental strength, I mean, that’s what this music is meant for. And no matter what I think of the war, I support our fighting men and women with every fiber of my being.

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 24, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Made my nipples hard!

HornetSting on June 24, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Always a good visual – thanks.

massrighty on June 24, 2009 at 8:46 PM

Finally, real stimulus!

massrighty on June 24, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Three cheers for the Military Industrial Complex!!

thomasaur on June 24, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Aww… that strike probably, maybe, killed innocent rodents.

/oh yeah, the not so innocent ones, too.

Ugly on June 24, 2009 at 8:48 PM

omg hornet, lol

bazil9 on June 24, 2009 at 8:49 PM

Three cheers for the Military Industrial Complex!!

thomasaur on June 24, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Damn Skippy!

massrighty on June 24, 2009 at 8:50 PM

Made my nipples hard!

HornetSting on June 24, 2009 at 8:42 PM

I keep forgetting you’re a chick. Which is AWESOME.

Now. Can I change my nick to ‘KleenexSoaked’?

Ugly on June 24, 2009 at 8:51 PM

I do hope the pilot,

is Hawkdriver!

canopfor on June 24, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Question: Is it due to this Obamanation administration that they have to ask to fire upon the enemy?

They’ve always had to ask, it’s just now they have to ask more than once :P

apollyonbob on June 24, 2009 at 8:52 PM

I keep forgetting you’re a chick. Which is AWESOME…

Ugly on June 24, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Oh-Oh; now we’re entering the very dangerous chick/broad/babe zone…

Let’s hope no one takes offense.

massrighty on June 24, 2009 at 8:53 PM

canopfor on June 24, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Yeah Baby!

bazil9 on June 24, 2009 at 8:54 PM

Great video of the real American treasure in action. Damned shame our boys had to ask permission 6 effing times; at least the correct orders finally came.

Good vs Evil… Been taking place for centuries, and the battle will continue to take place long after I’m gone.

American men/woman in uniform, serving all of us 24/7/365…

God Bless every one of our warriors!!!

Keemo on June 24, 2009 at 8:55 PM

jgapinoy on June 24, 2009 at 8:19 PM

Yeah…my son is in the military…

ladyingray on June 24, 2009 at 8:57 PM

God Bless every one of our warriors!!!

Keemo on June 24, 2009 at 8:55 PM

Pray for them, right out loud, whenever prayers are offered. And pray that their missions may succeed!

massrighty on June 24, 2009 at 8:58 PM

massrighty on June 24, 2009 at 8:53 PM

She won’t take offense. I’m ugly :)

Ugly on June 24, 2009 at 8:58 PM

Excellent work!

Kudo’s to the US Military,doing it right,tight,and
all night!hehe.

The chain gun is a nasty peice of hardware!!!!

canopfor on June 24, 2009 at 8:59 PM

On a very serious note… I KNOW the One didn’t approves this without some serious coresion

Ugly on June 24, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Great. I was about to go to bed… and that video got me going…

GW_SS-Delta on June 24, 2009 at 9:02 PM

If that doesn’t get you hard, I don’t know what will.

V15J on June 24, 2009 at 9:02 PM

lol… ‘Robust debate’ indeed.

Ugly on June 24, 2009 at 9:03 PM

That’s total bullcrap.

If I had to ask 6 times to fire on a group of isolated terrorists, I’d start looking for another line of work. Next thing you know, you’ll have to be taking accurate fire, first, before you can even ask. Or maybe you’ll have to suffer at least one casualty or fatality before they’ll let you return fire at 1 tango.

Virus-X on June 24, 2009 at 9:04 PM

You can only get this kind of Stuff on FOXNEWS

KBird on June 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM

I do hope the pilot,

is Hawkdriver!

canopfor on June 24, 2009 at 8:51 PM

Shout out to Hawkdriver! Keep safe dude!

Who the hell is making this take so long? That is crap!

Man, what a beautiful thing our military is!!!!!!!!

Hey President Skateboard, this is what democracy is all about!!!!!!!!!!!! Not inviting terrorist over for a freaking BBQ! This is what the WORLD IS SCARED TO DEATH OF!!!!!!! Not asking Hamas over to Syria, and chatting about the peace process!!!!!!!!!! PEACE THIS!!!!!!!!!

Rock on United States Military!!!!!! ROCK ON!!!!!!!!!!

freeus on June 24, 2009 at 9:13 PM

And the one guy blew himself up. That’s pretty funny.

Bob's Kid on June 24, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Where was the Miranda Warning. Hmmm ? ?

They weren’t read their rights. . .Not Fair !

As I run for the hills ducking and weaving. : )

Texyank on June 24, 2009 at 9:17 PM

That was clearly a wedding party.

Little Boomer on June 24, 2009 at 9:18 PM

And the one guy blew himself up. That’s pretty funny.

Bob’s Kid on June 24, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Must have read his own rights.

Texyank on June 24, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Let’s not forget this one….

Citizen Soldier by 3 Doors Down

Extended DVD Version

Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 24, 2009 at 9:20 PM

And the one guy blew himself up. That’s pretty funny.

Bob’s Kid on June 24, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Yeah, aren’t homicide bombers supposed to take innocents with them? No Virgils for you Ahmed.

thomasaur on June 24, 2009 at 9:20 PM

Shout out to Hawkdriver! Keep safe dude!

Who the hell is making this take so long? That is crap!

Man, what a beautiful thing our military is!!!!!!!!

freeus on June 24, 2009 at 9:13 PM

I’ll say. Too many chains in that stream.

Texyank on June 24, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Welcome to my 4th of July fireworks display.You’ve passed your ordeal by fire and are deemed rehabilitated decent members of society again. Congratulations -and may that odor you smell for eternity be the flatulence of diarrheic swine.

MaiDee on June 24, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Pink mist… I love it.

BTW, This should illustrate their cowardice. I’m sure they would cut off the head of a child for “Allah” but they weren’t devout enough to stand up to a few American soldiers. I guess their devotion to “Allah” ends with well-aimed fires.

Claypigeon on June 24, 2009 at 9:23 PM

WOW!!! That would be 83 death lovers X 72 virgins = 5,976!!!

To paraphrase Slim Pickins, “Somebody better go back and get a sh$tload of virgins!”

bobeast on June 24, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Heh, “robust debate.” That belongs scribbled on a missile somewhere. :)

ThePrez on June 24, 2009 at 9:25 PM

You can only get this kind of Stuff on FOXNEWS

KBird on June 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Yep, you nailed it. One network standing proud with our warriors, the rest taking cheap shots at every turn.

The others can’t die off fast enough for me!

Keemo on June 24, 2009 at 9:29 PM

The guy that blew himself up, WELL, he didn’t want to be released from Gitmo to Burmuda. Solved that problem. How the devil do you consider yourself a fierce warrior when you’re wearing 47 layers of skirts/turbans, and a beard that itches?

Prayers for our awesome and talented U.S. military personel. Six times. It must seem like an eternity before getting an answer to fire.

24K lady on June 24, 2009 at 9:30 PM

And the one guy blew himself up. That’s pretty funny.

Bob’s Kid on June 24, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Most likely having more than one contraction simultaneously.

Rovin on June 24, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Yeah Baby!

Bazil9 on June 24,2009 at 8:54PM.

Bazil9:–:)

canopfor on June 24, 2009 at 9:35 PM

And the one guy blew himself up. That’s pretty funny.

Bob’s Kid on June 24, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Dude, its drop the pin throw the grenade!

EnochCain on June 24, 2009 at 9:36 PM

This video was a real treat before dinner!

For desert, watch this:

http://www.redstate.com/brianfaughnan/2009/06/24/rep-tim-bishop-d-ny-runs-from-constituents/

Keemo on June 24, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Just sent this link to my son,LT-USAF, overseas by e-mail.

A little war pron for your dining and dancing pleasure.

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/06/24/video-apache-gunship-engages-in-robust-debate-with-taliban/

Although I am no fan of murder or even death, I am a BIG fan of documented enemy deaths. Comments?

Dad

I’m a tad disconcerted by my reaction to this vid, but

WOWIE-ZOWIE

phineas on June 24, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Awesome

notagool on June 24, 2009 at 9:40 PM

Allah:

The One is not racking up anything but a deficit, the US military is the guys you need to thank for this.

Terrye on June 24, 2009 at 9:40 PM

Terrye on June 24, 2009 at 9:40 PM

Excellent observation Terrye…

Keemo on June 24, 2009 at 9:43 PM

GREAT VIDEO! That was AWESOME! Those Apaches are creeping death. I’m actually happy that they are asking if it’s OK for them to unleash death. I’d say that an Apache is the second greatest asset to the US military. And that’s a close second to the Atom Bomb.

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2009 at 9:44 PM

Watchin them ask so many times for permission when it appeared there was no collateral risk reminded me of McCain deliberately tying one arm behind his own back by saying Obama was not a danger.

Sapwolf on June 24, 2009 at 9:45 PM

God Bless the valiant troops

defendfaithandfamily on June 24, 2009 at 9:45 PM

Is it obvious yet why the New York Times pulled their envoy to the Taliban out of their last week? I’m surprised they didn’t keep him there as a human shield though.

Buddahpundit on June 24, 2009 at 9:49 PM

Imagine how much more awesome and incredible our military would be if they did not have to seek permission to fire on the freaking enemy!! Nor if they had no fears of Democrats taking them to freaking court 2 years down the freaking road!!

JellyToast on June 24, 2009 at 9:54 PM

Groovy.

rrpjr on June 24, 2009 at 9:54 PM

Imagine how much more awesome and incredible our military would be if they did not have to seek permission to fire on the freaking enemy!! Nor if they had no fears of Democrats taking them to freaking court 2 years down the freaking road!!

JellyToast on June 24, 2009 at 9:54 PM

I don’t have a military background, but from what I’ve learned (from those who have served,) we’d have a lot more success if the ROE were written by the troops, without civilian/political interference.

massrighty on June 24, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Forgive me if I repeat a previous post…

But…

EXCELLENT GUN CONTROL!!!!

Ragspierre on June 24, 2009 at 9:57 PM

Saw a Marine SGT. in the Quick Trip this afternoon. Got to shake his hand! Made my day!

Vince on June 24, 2009 at 9:58 PM

EXCELLENT GUN CONTROL!!!!

Yes, good front seater thumb force control, considering the close range and aircraft movement.

Fletch54 on June 24, 2009 at 10:02 PM

I’m pleased to see those terrorists wound up being the “good” kind.

By that I of course mean the dead kind.

Yakko77 on June 24, 2009 at 10:04 PM

This sure beats “smart wiener diplomacy.”

BottomLine5 on June 24, 2009 at 8:21 PM

LOL. Oscar Mayer diplomacy!

Geochelone on June 24, 2009 at 10:08 PM

LOL. Oscar Mayer diplomacy!

Geochelone on June 24, 2009 at 10:08 PM

I’m a meatatarian, sir/madam;
I find that comment offensive.

/sarc.

massrighty on June 24, 2009 at 10:10 PM

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