Sanford implodes, admits affair

posted at 2:55 pm on June 24, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

I had written a post about the saga of the curious case of the missing Governor, Mark Sanford, but events have surpassed my original thoughts.  It now turns out that the Appalachian Trail story was a ruse to cover a meeting with Sanford’s mistress in Argentina, which makes Sanford the most famous Republican on foreign affairs at the moment:

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford aknowledged Wednesday that he was carrying on an affiar with a woman in Argentina when he disappeared from his office last week, only to resurface this morning.

Sanford said he would resign as chairman of the Republican Governors Association and asked for forgiveness from his wife and four sons.

Safe to say that after having his official spokesman lie to the press to cover the affair, Sanford’s career in national politics has just ended. It’s a shame that it came to this, but Sanford brought it on himself.

Once again, this clip from South Park seems appropriate:

The lesson: If you want to have a career in national politics, keep it in your pants. If you want to conduct affairs, stay out of politics. If you use your public office to lie to your constituents and your family, you deserve everything coming your way. No sniveling.


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I wouldn’t have voted for him in the primaries anyway.

Still, I feel really sorry for his wife and kids.

bluelightbrigade on June 24, 2009 at 4:43 PM

Life isn’t a holier-than-thou contest.

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 4:40 PM

We don’t compare ourselves to you.

We compare ourselves to an objective moral standard.

This is not difficult to understand, but you have to actually want to understand.

jeff_from_mpls on June 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM

The problem for Republicans is that, just as you’re doing here now, is claiming that Republicans are moral while Democrats somehow aren’t. Needless to say, that’s rich.

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 4:34 PM

The problem is that Republicans are expected to be moral, and Democrats aren’t.

MadisonConservative on June 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM

jeff_from_mpls, last I checked most Americans aren’t actually nihilists. So maybe you’re just exaggerating a wee bit for partisan effect. Republicans really don’t need that sort of thing, especially when it can and does blow up in their face when some do fall short.

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM

The problem is that Republicans are expected to be moral, and Democrats aren’t.

MadisonConservative on June 24, 2009 at 4:44 PM

That’s what Republicans do say, or so I’ve heard. Funny thing, that.

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 4:46 PM

Michael Medved thinks Sanford was sleeping with the President of Argentina?

portlandon on June 24, 2009 at 4:03 PM

Oh my…that almost makes sense…if it was some ordinary women he would not be so “public” about it…

right2bright on June 24, 2009 at 4:09 PM

It kind of does make sense. What is easier to hide?:

A:Governor leaving country to shag?
B:President leaving country to shag?

Governors don’t leave the country to screw around. She could have come to him and it wouldn’t have been noticed. Maybe she couldn’t come because she is the President of Argentina and hiding her would have been extremely hard?.

HMMMMM.

portlandon on June 24, 2009 at 4:47 PM

Funny thing is, Democrat Bill Clinton used a middle east crisis to divert attention from a sex scandal,

while Democrats of the Obama age use a sex scandal to divert attention from a middle east crisis.

You’ve evolved, libs!

The self-deception of the Democrat Party is stunning.

jeff_from_mpls on June 24, 2009 at 4:47 PM

We compare ourselves to an objective moral standard.

“Republicans are good and Democrats are bad” isn’t really an objective moral standard.

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Teams on 3 continents require guidance

DarkCurrent on June 24, 2009 at 4:32 PM

Hot Air has a team???

ladyingray on June 24, 2009 at 4:49 PM

More and more I’m starting to believe that no one gets anywhere in the republican party unless the democrat party allows them. They cut the good guys who attempt to serve off at the knees early or other good guys just won’t run for office because they know that one slip up and the republican party will allow the media and democrats to destroy them and thier families. That’s why the republican party seems to be filled with idiots like sanford. Who the hell did this guy think he was anyway? A kennedy or a clinton?

peacenprosperity on June 24, 2009 at 4:49 PM

Some advice to wives out there who are HA readers:

When you see your man again, give him a big hug, a passionate kiss, look into his eyes, and tell him how much of a hero he is for you and the kids.

Marriages take maintenance.

About the only good thing is that it was a sin of weakness and hopefully not malice.

God bless him and his family and hope they can patch it up.

Because he is a Repub., this ends his career though.

Switch parties? NOT.

Sapwolf on June 24, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Funny thing is, Democrat Bill Clinton used a middle east crisis to divert attention from a sex scandal,

Even funnier is how Clinton’s bombing of suspected Iraqi WMD sites in 1998 was claimed by some Republicans to be a reason to go to war.

Some have a sick sense of humor.

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 4:50 PM

this sucks, I liked Sanford a lot.

brandozilla on June 24, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Well, I didn’t think we ever had a chance of saving this country, but folks like Sanford offered a glimmer of hope. Now he’s put the final nail in our coffin.

RightWinged on June 24, 2009 at 4:52 PM

Now he’s put the final nail in our coffin.

Liquidate your assets, get rid of your debt and buy guns.

peacenprosperity on June 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Dudes, that Sanford fell short doesn’t mean he’s a bad man or has nothing left to offer in politics.

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM

What a turd.

csdeven on June 24, 2009 at 4:55 PM

Dudes, that Sanford fell short doesn’t mean he’s a bad man or has nothing left to offer in politics.

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM

Are his commitments to his constituency more important to fulfill than the ones to his wife and family?

csdeven on June 24, 2009 at 4:56 PM

The issue now is whether his lover was the Argentinian President. If so, man he really did his part for opening up free trade with Latin America.

Sapwolf on June 24, 2009 at 4:57 PM

Some advice to wives out there who are HA readers:

When you see your man again, give him a big hug, a passionate kiss, look into his eyes, and tell him how much of a hero he is for you and the kids.

Marriages take maintenance.

Sapwolf on June 24, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Good advice!

And husbands, instead of reaching outside your M for admiration/sex, go home w/ flowers for your wife, and tell her you want to hear about her day. Then listen. Taking time to listen to your wife will get you all the loving you want.

Plus, you’ll respect yourself in the morning.

Marsh on June 24, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Are his commitments to his constituency more important to fulfill than the ones to his wife and family?

csdeven on June 24, 2009 at 4:56 PM

Time will tell if Sanford can regain the trust that has been lost here with his constituents. I won’t say it can’t be done though.

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 5:00 PM

Starfleet: At least you’re consistent, on the surface. I do despise those that hold double standards.

However, we (conservatives), as a group, do hold people to objective moral standards. In this case, that standard is best expressed, ‘Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery.’ Any sort of moral equivalence on this is silly, on any side.

Scott H on June 24, 2009 at 5:01 PM

How many more Republicans are out having affairs??
Guys & Gals if you are – fess up now so we can
clean this house out.

izoneguy on June 24, 2009 at 5:01 PM

And husbands, instead of reaching outside your M for admiration/sex, go home w/ flowers for your wife, and tell her you want to hear about her day. Then listen. Taking time to listen to your wife will get you all the loving you want.

Plus, you’ll respect yourself in the morning.

Marsh on June 24, 2009 at 4:58 PM

Do the dishes. Clean the bathroom too. Works for me!

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 5:01 PM

It’s the same old story. Conservatives keep throwing their candidates under the bus, because they are morally flawed. Meanwhile, liberals stay loyal, even when their candidates commit felonies.

Being a national politician has many inherent occupational hazards that present unique moral challenges to the good, hard-working people who conservatives rely on to defend the values that they believe in. If conservative voters continue to discard conservative politicians because they are sometimes weak and succumb to temptation, conservatism will never regain the kind of political foothold that is needed to turn things around in this country. Unless conservatives begin to accept the fact that skilled conservative politicians are still the best bet with respect to championing conservative values, even when they have some temporary personal moral baggage, they will always be victims of the tactics used by the liberal media to pressure them into discarding these otherwise skilled politicians when they stumble in their personal lives.

I’m not suggesting that conservatives should condone moral mistakes by such politicians. Conservatives can continue to condemn the immoral act without throwing away imperfect people who are otherwise good at moving the conservative agenda forward. If conservatives continue to demand moral perfection in their elected conservative politicians, they will always be disappointed. They will sit powerless on the sidelines as liberals exploit this weakness to hijack the national political agenda and to systematically destroy the conservative principles that made this country great.

Right now, the liberals in this country have conservatives right where they want them. They distort and use the values of conservative voters to persuade them discard imperfect but effective conservative politicians and replace them with inexperienced or Democrat politicians that strengthen the hand of their enemies. This is what is commonly called self-defeating behavior. But, the joke is on conservatives and liberals are laughing all the way to the socialist bank.

NuclearPhysicist on June 24, 2009 at 5:02 PM

Some advice to wives out there who are HA readers:

When you see your man again, give him a big hug, a passionate kiss, look into his eyes, and tell him how much of a hero he is for you and the kids.

Marriages take maintenance.

Sapwolf on June 24, 2009 at 4:50 PM

Good advice!

And husbands, instead of reaching outside your M for admiration/sex, go home w/ flowers for your wife, and tell her you want to hear about her day. Then listen. Taking time to listen to your wife will get you all the loving you want.

Plus, you’ll respect yourself in the morning.

Marsh on June 24, 2009 at 4:58 PM

And hug your kids and tell them that you rather spend time with them rather than fly to Argentina and knock boots with some bimbo.

Seriously, time that you spend sneaking around and cheating is time taken away from your wife and kids. So, yeah, somebody always gets hurt.

Blake on June 24, 2009 at 5:04 PM

And he just won that hockey bet with the Cuda, and then throws it all away.

I guess being the boyfriend of the Argentine Prez was sweeter than being the Cuda’s Veep.

Oh well. Another down, By 2011, only Sarah will be standing tall, with a wink in her eye, Trig in one arm (this kid is getting bigger), and a 1911 in the hand.

CHARGE!!!

Sapwolf on June 24, 2009 at 5:06 PM

Why should you care what I think about your marriage, dude? Life isn’t a holier-than-thou contest.

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 4:40 PM

Don’t flatter yourself. The fact that I don’t give a damn what you think doesn’t mean that your b.s. gets to go unchallenged.

Blake on June 24, 2009 at 5:12 PM

I’ve been living in a cave, I guess. Just saw this post, after catching up on this weird saga earlier today. I have only four words for the entire thing:

What a worthless prick.

Jaibones on June 24, 2009 at 5:12 PM

I won’t say it can’t be done though.

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 5:00 PM

It will be a tough row to hoe for sure.

csdeven on June 24, 2009 at 5:14 PM

This is hilarious!!!!!!

True_King on June 24, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Romney-Jindal 2012!

joncoltonis on June 24, 2009 at 3:45 PM

Palin/Romney

or

Palin/Rubio

Sapwolf on June 24, 2009 at 5:15 PM

Dudes, that Sanford fell short doesn’t mean he’s a bad man or has nothing left to offer in politics.

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM

He can’t be trusted. We’ve already got too many of those in politics.

a capella on June 24, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Let me educate you.
Here’s the hierarchy in terms of personal character and authenticity:

1) Believe in moral values and honor them.
2) Believe in moral values and violate them.
3) Reject moral values and don’t care.

You and your ilk are the vermin in category number 3, the bottom of the barrel.

jeff_from_mpls on June 24, 2009

I hope disagreeing with your hierarchy of personal character and authenticity doesn’t automatically mark me as group 3 vermin, but I have a hard time seeing group 2 as more authentic then group 3.

How could one’s character be any less authentic than that of a man who professes with his lips to believe in a certain moral code, but violates that code with his over-heated junk?

With amoral f*cks what you see is what you get. They’re not trying to fake you out like the frauds who talk the talk, but don’t walk the walk.

Just sayin’.

Gang-of-One on June 24, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Maybe he was getting Samba lessons from some pretty good instructors.

Latin women understand the male psych a little better than other cultures. They know on average a little better how to bring out the tiger in their men.

American women have gone apesh*t feminazi so much that most men are like AP and just so beta that they are not interested.

Of course it is the fault of American women to some extent. You get what you train. It’s sad but true that I hear more complaints about men who are not manly.

HA Women chime in on this. Wouldn’t you rather have a real man or a boy you can control who has sensitive feelings?

Sapwolf on June 24, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Gang-of-One on June 24, 2009 at 5:20 PM

His 1-2-3 analysis is spot on.

Do you really think for a second that certain people would still be alive if I was in 3)? Like the possibility of the victim having a gun acts as a deterrent, and probably lowers the number of crimes with guns, the knowledge of punishment in the next life, or the pain of guilt in this life can prevent falling into vice.

If I’m 3) I get to raid, and pillage, rape, enslave, torture, and otherwise have a great ole time.

Sanford’s sin may have been weakness and not malice. Many times, men cheat on their wives because they are very lonely within the marriage. When lonely, they are more suseptible to certain vices like adultery. He probably knows he was wrong, although that’s speculating.

If you don’t think this will be painful for all involved, think again. My guess is that he’s a 2).

Sapwolf on June 24, 2009 at 5:29 PM

Was she hot at least?

GW_SS-Delta on June 24, 2009 at 5:29 PM

I have no excuses or pity for Sanford, and only one message to all adulterous politicians like him:

GET OUT.

I don’t want you in my party, I don’t want you representing me, and I don’t want to be associated with you in any way. Anyone who will not adhere to their marriage vows cannot be trusted to uphold an oath of office, even if there is never a visible breach of public trust.

God gave you a higher brain: use it.

*simmers in fury*

Animator Girl on June 24, 2009 at 5:34 PM

At least he wasn’t hiking naked.

Vashta.Nerada on June 24, 2009 at 5:36 PM

Was she hot at least?

GW_SS-Delta on June 24, 2009 at 5:29 PM

If she’s Argentine, it almost goes without saying.

Vashta.Nerada on June 24, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Some of you people act as if you have never sinned against what you know is right. Most of you have no idea what it means to be a politician on the national stage and I suspect that few of you would handle it well. National politicians, by virtue of their position, are placed in close proximity with hundreds of rich and/or attractive people who either support or work for them. At the same time, they are often forced to spend most of their time away from their families working to represent their constituents. They are not perfect and are presented with temptations that most of us never face in our entire lifetimes. I think that we need to cut them some slack and forgive them. They need our support to continue the fight against socialism. What they don’t need is for us to judge them and to condemn them to political outer darkness. If they fight for our values in the public arena, then we should fight for them and forgive them when they trip and fall within their personal lives. Talk about throwing the baby out with the bath water! If conservatives continue in this vein of self-destructive behavior, then the liberals/socialists have already won.

NuclearPhysicist on June 24, 2009 at 5:40 PM

So what was Sanford’s master plan? That no one in the state would wonder where their Governor was for a week without his family and not on government business?

Speedwagon82 on June 24, 2009 at 5:41 PM

I really am sorry to read this. Sanford is the perfect anti-dote to what BO is peddling.

HA Women chime in on this. Wouldn’t you rather have a real man or a boy you can control who has sensitive feelings?

A real man, without question.

One who, while he’s still in love with you will say “look darling, you’re nice, but you’re not and no one is that nice” when he suspects you’re playing mind games with him.

I’m not quite sure how to explain it, but when it comes to affairs, a lot of times, the wife really is the last one to know. Meanwhile, men know the instant the woman they love begins to lose interest. It’s like they’re diviners or something.

American men, generally, really like women. I like American men a lot more than I like European men. Absolutely no contest.

Eirenic Rebel on June 24, 2009 at 5:43 PM

Do the dishes. Clean the bathroom too. Works for me!

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 5:01 PM

Of course it does, because you are the typical psuedo feminist who assumes those are jobs your fat ass is too enlightened to do so the old lady is assigned to do it by default because, well, that is just “woman’s work”. That is what makes it such a sacrifice in your warped, nerd world. What a big man, did you buy her a vacuum cleaner for her birthday?

I also chuckle about the moral lectures that you types love to give any time a republican or preacher messes up. How about we mention your side’s moral hypocrisy on wealth, taxes, donations, charity, homelessness, environment, public education, volunteering, human rights, etc… Christ I could go on all day.

ClassicCon on June 24, 2009 at 5:48 PM

This was a huge unforced error.

This was stupidity personified.

technopeasant on June 24, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Slime.

PrincipledPilgrim on June 24, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Did I say I was on the Appalachian trail? I meant the Argentinian tail. My bad.

TheBigOldDog on June 24, 2009 at 5:52 PM

Do the dishes. Clean the bathroom too. Works for me!

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 5:01 PM

David Letterman? or Andrew Dice Clay, is that you?

portlandon on June 24, 2009 at 5:54 PM

We compare ourselves to an objective moral standard.
“Republicans are good and Democrats are bad” isn’t really an objective moral standard.

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 4:48 PM

Again you miss the point. The objective moral standard is that infidelity in marriage is wrong. When Republicans do it, witness the republicans on this thread, they are roundly criticized, usually resign (both Ensign and Sanford) and recognize the end of their careers. It isn’t because they are hypocritical, it’s because the party isn’t hypocritical. They do stand for values, and that’s why leaders who don’t, are tossed aside.

Measuring democrats by the standard “infidelity is wrong” is never done by democrats. Why? It isn’t to avoid hypocrisy. It’s to avoid standards.

The idea that a democrat caught in infidelity would resign anything is laughable because democrats have no personal standards.

Thus they create moral standards for the group – ecology, welfare, and passivity… things they think republicans aren’t ‘moral’ about. That in itself is laughable, and the definition of hypocrisy since they do not adhere to their own subjective standards… Al Gore with his astronomical energy consumption, Nancy Pelosi with her jetsetting, Barack Obama and his donations to charity…. to name a few.

We can explain this to you ad nauseum, but doubtless you do not understand the distinction…

Carolina Kat on June 24, 2009 at 5:54 PM

NuclearPhysicist,

Sorry, but liberals didn’t have any influence on me hitting the reject button on the latest conservative to bite the dust.

As we all know, our great nation is in a struggle for its soul. Will we continue to be America or will we slowly lose our uniqueness. If a man is going to step forward to lead, then he should lead.

The reason I hit the reject button on Sanford is because I have not one ounce of sympathy, compassion, or loyalty to any conservative leader who can’t keep his heart and soul, his everything in the fight. If I were otherwise I’d be a liberal, and have no problem supporting the likes of Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd, and Barney Frank.

What kind of idiot would do that?

Gang-of-One on June 24, 2009 at 5:57 PM

To do list:
1. Disappear into thin air for four days.
2. Get it on with some babe in Argentina.
3. Reappear and act as if nothing happened.

Warning: Do not try this if you are
a) a governor
b) a family man
c) a high profile politician
d) somebody with a functioning brain

whitetop on June 24, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Those who think it’s too harsh/hasty to toss politicians like Sanford out of the party need to understand something: many of us differentiate between Sanford the man and Sanford the Governor. In time, Sanford the man is likely to be forgiven, by God, by his family, and even by his family. The reason that Sanford the politician will not soon be forgiven by the public is that trust is earned, and again, a person who fails to uphold marriage vows (in Sanford’s case, vows to God) has demonstrated that they cannot be trusted to uphold ANY vow, including an oath of office. Lying to his family and the public is a breach of the trust the electorate had placed in him.

It is neither hypocritical nor self-destructive for Republicans to expel him from public office: in fact, it is an act of self-preservation. If Republicans are not willing to demand of their representatives adherence to such a vital principle, then who will trust the Republicans to uphold ANY principle, and who would vote for them?

Animator Girl on June 24, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Hell..Clinton cheated on his wife in the frickin WHITE HOUSE and he barely skipped a beat, so I’m sure the libs/dems/progs will have nothing but support for his behavior, because there is nothing much wrong with that sort of thing, in their minds.

I, on the other hand, find it very bothersome. What the hell was he thinking? Of all possible times… the country needs a unifying message of trustable values, and this dork does that???
I’m sorry, its just pussy, and there is no excuse for something like this in these needful times. No sooner than Maobabma starts to take a dip..a Repub pulls this for some pussy????? Dorkasaurus.

I give up.
Just going to live whats left of my life.

Dork.

Itchee Dryback on June 24, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Those who think it’s too harsh/hasty to toss politicians like Sanford out of the party need to understand something: many of us differentiate between Sanford the man and Sanford the Governor. In time, Sanford the man is likely to be forgiven, by God, by his family, and even by his family. The reason that Sanford the politician will not soon be forgiven by the public is that trust is earned, and again, a person who fails to uphold marriage vows (in Sanford’s case, vows to God) has demonstrated that they cannot be trusted to uphold ANY vow, including an oath of office. Lying to his family and the public is a breach of the trust the electorate had placed in him.

It is neither hypocritical nor self-destructive for Republicans to expel him from public office: in fact, it is an act of self-preservation. If Republicans are not willing to demand of their representatives adherence to such a vital principle, then who will trust the Republicans to uphold ANY principle, and who would vote for them?

Animator Girl on June 24, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Awesome

True_King on June 24, 2009 at 6:10 PM

What an idiot and a jerk. If you no longer want to be married, get a divorce. Cheating is unacceptable, but I would have had more respect for the guy if he had skipped the globetrotting and manned up to the affair. Taking off for an international rendezvous over father’s day weekend and leaving his staff to make excuses for him was downright asinine. This is not the kind of judgment the GOP needs.

I don’t think cheating on his spouse necessarily kills his political career forever, but this kind of mistake takes a long time to correct (i.e. decades of good behavior).

vermillionsky on June 24, 2009 at 6:11 PM

I hope Obama is paying attention. This is what happens to you when people hold you up. Americans LOVE TO CONDEMN people. Especially people in the public eye.

It makes them feel superior. I don’t envy Obama because he’s going to fall hard. And if you don’t think he’ll have other women, you are kidding yourselves.

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2009 at 6:19 PM

And this whole incident. . . how people here have handled it, not how the Governor has handled it. . . is precisely why I will never become a part of the Republican party.

The Republican party is full of a bunch of losers.

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2009 at 6:20 PM

Dudes, that Sanford fell short doesn’t mean he’s a bad man or has nothing left to offer in politics.

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 4:54 PM

True dat and now if he would get drunk or drugged up and run his car into a wall or lake he could run for pres. as a DEMOCRAT or at least have a good shot at Teddy Headdedys’ seat!

dhunter on June 24, 2009 at 6:55 PM

… Christ I could go on all day.

ClassicCon on June 24, 2009 at 5:48 PM

I’m sure you could, but I think Jesus would get bored.

starfleet_dude on June 24, 2009 at 6:55 PM

Having watched the entire press conference, and having talked with Mark Sanford three times on his campaigns thru SC, I am again convinced of this man’s basic integrity. His rambling presser was an honest, humble man acknowledging his humiliating failure to live up to his beliefs.

He admitted infidelity and having gone to meet the woman 3 times. To many Christians and even the law, infidelity doesn’t have to be physical, so by calling his relationship ‘infidelity’ he may have admitted to more wrongdoing than other leaders [including Presidents] while having done less.

Obviously, his priorities now should be to serve the citizens of SC while re-earning the trust of his family. But if Sanford is successful in those I personally would have no problem supporting him for Prez. The David Lettermans of the world–or his fans–don’t influence my vote in any way.

rwenger43 on June 24, 2009 at 6:58 PM

At least his wife wasn’t fighting breast cancer and he wasn’t in the middle of a primary run. He still has a shot as a DEM!

dhunter on June 24, 2009 at 6:59 PM

Sapwolf on June 24, 2009 at 5:29 PM

I’m laughing to myself trying to figure out how many fools wouldn’t still be alive if you were in Nuclear’s group 3. Not too many I hope.

Anyway, I have no doubt that this affair will be painful for all involved–I don’t need to think twice about that. I also believe that Gov. Sanford acted on weakness rather than malice. However, in matters of Free Will, I think to act out of weakness is every bit as wrong as acting out of malice. I’m not talking about degrees of sin, but rather real world consequences.

So yes, belief in punishment in the after life and pain of guilt can prevent a fall into vice. However, for group 2 these deterrents can all to often, whenever convenient, be placed in a state of suspended animation until such time as the truth comes out. Only then is it time to start talking about God,Guilt,and Forgiveness. Again, not real indicative of an “authentic character.”

As far as those in group 3 having, by virtue of their rejection of our value system, the green light to rape, pillage, plunder, and party down like a barbarian, well, all I can say about that is that I’m no convinced that everyone who rejects our values is a murderous raper and pillager. I don’t think that’s the case.

Gang-of-One on June 24, 2009 at 7:06 PM

And this whole incident. . . how people here have handled it, not how the Governor has handled it. . . is precisely why I will never become a part of the Republican party.

The Republican party is full of a bunch of losers.

ThackerAgency on June 24, 2009 at 6:20 PM

HAHAHAHAHA! I hate to hear anyone has such limited thinking.

LSUMama on June 24, 2009 at 8:41 PM

rwenger43 on June 24, 2009 at 6:58 PM

NuclearPhysicist on June 24, 2009 at 5:02 PM

I agree with you both. I think Sanford’s Presser, while seemingly crazy and rambling was actually a man speaking honestly and from the heart. Someone who is hurt,immensely disappointed in and upset with himself and his personal weaknesses, truly remorseful and in pain.

Nuclear, I agree with you as well. Republicans/Conservatives are putting *themselves* in a box by imposing their own standards of morality at all costs on everyone else, thus inviting the name-calls of hypocrites or liars if someone falls, as humans are wont to do.

When I want piously perfect and meeting all “moral” standards, I’ll look to a pastor. What I want from a political LEADER is someone who is ethical (there is a difference between ethics and morals) and who will further the agenda that is best for this Country.

Lori_Z on June 24, 2009 at 8:45 PM

You are still allowed to club women in the head and drag them in most southern states.

Monkei on June 24, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Like Argentina for instance?

RD on June 24, 2009 at 9:29 PM

SANFORD IMPLODES

Morrissey blows another caption.

SANFORD MAN’S UP. (Must be a Republican).

Basilsbest on June 24, 2009 at 10:32 PM

It is neither hypocritical nor self-destructive for Republicans to expel him from public office: in fact, it is an act of self-preservation. If Republicans are not willing to demand of their representatives adherence to such a vital principle, then who will trust the Republicans to uphold ANY principle, and who would vote for them?

Animator Girl on June 24, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Excellent points.

Red State State of Mind on June 24, 2009 at 10:56 PM

The tragic irony here is that Sanford seems like a man who hasn’t gotten laid in a long time. I think he had marital problems, though spending Father’s Day with a whore and lying to his staff was a pretty stupid move. She should have come to him when he wouldn’t be missed. I think he committed ritual hari kari, or maybe thought he couldn’t get a divorce if he wanted a shot at national politics, so he imploded.

alliebobbitt on June 24, 2009 at 11:00 PM

Gang-of-One on June 24, 2009 at 5:57 PM

I like the way you think. Although I sympathize with Sanford, I am looking for more from a possible challenger to Obama in 2012. It will get ugly. Someone needs to bring their A game.

alliebobbitt on June 24, 2009 at 11:10 PM

Stupid. Did he think he could get away with this? Just plain lunacy. FOOL!

clnurnberg on June 25, 2009 at 12:55 AM

Good. Now I don’t have to keep reading comments about what a strong GOP candidate Sanford’s going to be in 2012.

He seems to have been a good governor and I like his stand against taking stimulus money for what good that did, but personally I don’t think he’d be a whole lot better than Huckabee, and I’m not sold on Romney yet…he reeks of ‘government-based solutions’ to me.

Can you imagine if he won the Republican primary and this came out?

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 25, 2009 at 1:08 AM

Funny thing is, Democrat Bill Clinton used a middle east crisis to divert attention from a sex scandal,

while Democrats of the Obama age use a sex scandal to divert attention from a middle east crisis.

You’ve evolved, libs!

The self-deception of the Democrat Party is stunning.

jeff_from_mpls on June 24, 2009 at 4:47 PM

Brilliant.

Geochelone on June 25, 2009 at 1:45 AM

He could have gotten away with it. He should have released a proposal for a massive government-run single-payer program first. Then everything would be groovy.

Red Cloud on June 25, 2009 at 5:08 AM

It’s ALWAYS the womans fault. From the trollop that digs her claws into the guy to the aging shrew of a wife that drives the husband away. It’s always the womans fault.

Jeff from WI on June 25, 2009 at 6:42 AM

This guy was being considered for a run at President. He can’t even hide an affair properly.

Jeff from WI on June 25, 2009 at 9:09 AM

I never thought he was presidential or even vice presidential.

alliebobbitt on June 25, 2009 at 12:10 PM

I never thought he was presidential or even vice presidential.

alliebobbitt on June 25, 2009 at 12:10 PM

Come on now, Biden lowered the bar for Vice President to an IQ of 70 and a pulse.

Jeff from WI on June 25, 2009 at 3:02 PM

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