If and it is still a big if, the stock market tests or breaks its March lows, Obama is doomed.
All the current poll numbers also reflect a 35% rally in the market to date. With 70% of the electorate invested to some degree or another this influences how they feel. There is hope, with fingers and toes crossed.
New lows and folks will panic. (a little strong but you get the idea)
patrick neid on June 22, 2009 at 8:21 PM

What an abysmal state we find ourselves in when we “HOPE” for worse and worse economic news so that we can have a “CHANGE” in the White House. Not that I disagree, mind you. Hopefully, we won’t be flushed so far down the sewer we can’t swim our way out again.

To put it another way, is the fact that so many people who voted for him are still in denial and are keeping their fingers crossed that somehow his inane economic policies will work, therefore slowing this inevitable mass realization of what a fraud he is, making the economy worse?

ardenenoch on June 22, 2009 at 8:30 PM

There’s probably a lot of that out there–people who put so much HOPE in YES HE CAN! that they find it hard to believe that he really can’t and WON’T, and that the 95% whose taxes Obama would cut doesn’t include THEM. There are probably lots of people “in the middle” who might have considered voting for McCain, but WANTED TO BELIEVE in Obama’s dreams so passionately and leg-tingly, and they still WANT TO BELIEVE they made the right choice. So, for now, some of them oppose his policies in polls but still support the man, the personality, the nostalgia for the tingling legs and feel-good speeches.

But when reality hits them squarely in the face, when they lose their jobs, when they get a huge tax bill, when they finally realize they’ve been fleeced, they will be angry. And Republican House candidates in 2010 need to have a good alternative, and welcome them with open arms.

And I think it would open up another chance for Hillary in 2012. I think if she did that,,, it would be a blow to Obama and a blow to Republicans. She would no longer be attached to this failing administration.
JellyToast on June 22, 2009 at 8:39 PM

I don’t see it hurting republicans. I see it as a replay of Kennedy in 1980.

G.W. Bush must take some of the heat for this. His overreaching, progressivism and profligate spending set up the pins. Ogabe knocked them down.
(Given Odumbo’s bowling average maybe that was a poor analogy)

chilly_willy on June 23, 2009 at 3:49 AM

Well said. I totally agree with you. Hill sold out big time. She wasn’t even a PUMA when PUMAS were begging for her to not follow the Obamunist. She campaigned for Obama and took all his abuse. She helped get Murtha reelected. Also all the Clintonistas are now in the Barry Regime. Hill is a total Party girl without principles of her own. I am done with the Clintons.

She called Petraeus a liar and he ended up helping win the war in Iraq.

JellyToast on June 22, 2009 at 8:39 PM
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I have to disagree about your take on HRC. She literally sold out her chances when she accepted the SoS position. She should have remained in the senate. Her wish to gain more gravitas through foreign affairs experience is a plus in some circles but it is also a minus to her as well. Her policies are not hers. The policies that she is now pressing around the world are Obama’s. She is now a dupe. The strength she had during her primary run for the DNC presidential nomination has now been voided because she compromised her positions abroad and domestically. Specifically, she would not have done what Obama did to address the economy (Bill would have coached her to be more moderate) or nationalize the private sector. And other differences concerning isues abroad, HRC would not do an apology tour snubbing our allies and glad handing dictators. So there you have it. She should have stayed in the senate. She made a poor calculation which reflects the desire to remain close to power rather than sticking to her own American democratic ideals. She has tainted herself by succumbing to the Obama rhetoric and there is no going back now. Resigning now is also a mistake as well. Future is not set. You can’t change what has transpired in your past remissions. She can not reverse this abatement with any intensity now. She has soldout her values and traded them in for soft tyranny of power. Bad moves all around IMO.

You give HRC too much credit.

Hillary has that “I wish squash you to get MY legislation through” look about her. She was already in Washington for 8 years. And in the National Political scene for the last 25. Her and her husband know the levers of power and how to manipulate legislation and twist arms through out the city to get their agenda passed. It is time for the Clintons to go.

What we’re looking at is, at least a couple trillion dollars that we do not have to insure that 43 million
have sufficient health insurance.

Sometimes, I ponder the thought that if Oprah had won the
presidency, AT LEAST we’d get a new car out of the deal, plus the car manufacturers would be in the gravy. Problem
solved.

I never thought I’d have so much fun in a such a cra**y economy like this.

DC/Obama/Dem meltdown.

Like watching Rome burn.

In April, six in 10 Midwesterners said the big, federal program had already worked or eventually would do so.

This is so dismissive it’s not even funny. I mean of midwesterners (I guess I’m one of those being in Michigan). Typical liberals are not even paying attention, left leaning centrists barely care, as long as they get fed some kind of government money.

That is, until their house is forclosed on and their car reposessed, then it’s Bush’s fault.

The only government spending that would do any good for these people would be to fund research and production of a special tool that would assist the left in getting their heads out of their asses.

His personal popularity’s still rock solid at 65 percent

Continue to shake my head in amazement… guess that’s what NBC WH tours, magazine covers, and ice cream runs will do for you..

davek70 on June 22, 2009 at 7:50 PM

No, that is what you get when people are afraid to admit they don’t like him because they don’t want to sound ‘racist’. One of the students at the campus where I work was taking a poll for a PolySci class and stopped me the day before the election, and asked if I supported 0bama (not if I supported McCain or another candidate). I said no. She immediately said that was a racist attitude, but when I tried to explain that no it had nothing to do with the color of his skin but the fact because he is a far left liberal with zero experience and dangerous ties and will lead this country further down the path of socialism, she walked away.

The falloff in confidence in the stimulus package has been sharpest in the hard-hit Midwest, where fewer than half now see the government spending as succeeding. In April, six in 10 Midwesterners said the big, federal program had already worked or eventually would do so.

The Motherland’s been abandoned?

And he’s not a Tax and Spend Democrat. He’s a Spend and Tax Democrat

Thank you I have faith in the American people…this is just a hiccup in the way forward. I just cannot believe that 56 million people are that stupid

MCW on June 22, 2009 at 8:34 PM

It is ignorance and naivety, not stupidity.

Essentially the media sold a narrative during the last couple of years that in the end gave us Obama. People knew the media was biased, but they didn’t realize that the current state media was then Obama’s real campaign.

Consider, for example, the large minority of voters convinced the Republicans were running Congress in 2006-8 when the economy began to slow. Would they have voted for Obama if they knew he was one of those bums in the Congressional majority they were trying to throw out?

his ratings on foreign policy are higher than his ratings on domestic, which is supposed to be his bread and butter.

The state media can control what people know of foreign events then they can domestic events.

It is easy to say that Obama has the Islamists on the run with his “smart power” and hard for the average voter to verify it.

On the other hand, the state media can tell you how great Obama is day and night after you’ve been laid off and the shinola is a bit more obvious.

JellyToast on June 22, 2009 at 8:39 PM
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I have to disagree about your take on HRC. She literally sold out her chances when she accepted the SoS position. She should have remained in the senate. Her wish to gain more gravitas through foreign affairs experience is a plus in some circles but it is also a minus to her as well. Her policies are not hers. The policies that she is now pressing around the world are Obama’s. She is now a dupe. The strength she had during her primary run for the DNC presidential nomination has now been voided because she compromised her positions abroad and domestically. Specifically, she would not have done what Obama did to address the economy (Bill would have coached her to be more moderate) or nationalize the private sector. And other differences concerning isues abroad, HRC would not do an apology tour snubbing our allies and glad handing dictators. So there you have it. She should have stayed in the senate. She made a poor calculation which reflects the desire to remain close to power rather than sticking to her own American democratic ideals. She has tainted herself by succumbing to the Obama rhetoric and there is no going back now. Resigning now is also a mistake as well. Future is not set. You can’t change what has transpired in your past remissions. She can not reverse this abatement with any intensity now. She has soldout her values and traded them in for soft tyranny of power. Bad moves all around IMO.

Hey, I voted for the skirt and the old guy. Well, really just the skirt, the old guy was just baggage. By the way, you’ve got my vote.

jimmy2shoes on June 22, 2009 at 9:10 PM

California, against Barbra Boxer. At this point a write in, Looking for someone with website creation abilities to make me a website…