Dionne: Incoherence works
posted at 10:55 am on June 22, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
E.J. Dionne tries to issue an apologia for Barack Obama’s lack of engagement during the Iranian crisis, as well as an explanation as to how the President allowed the US to fall behind France and Germany in speaking out for freedom and liberty. Unfortunately, it falters in its own incoherence. Even Dionne recognizes that the crackdown in Iran has made diplomacy with the mullahs a dead letter, which should have been apparent even before this crisis arose.
First, Dionne says this:
Before the election, he had set the United States on a path to negotiation with Iran’s government — the very government whose legitimacy was crumbling over the weekend as it cracked down hard on the opposition. As a foreign policy realist, Obama knew that at the end of the current struggle, the United States would still have to deal with Iran on the issue of its nuclear program and other matters related to our “long-term interests.”
And then:
If the Iranian regime simply suppresses its political adversaries, it will be impossible anytime soon to resume diplomacy as if nothing had happened. And even if the present government survives in the short term, we now know that its hold on power is shaky. There is more opposition in Iran than we — and probably Iranians themselves — knew existed, and thus more opportunity for change.
At least Dionne has the sense to realize that direct talks are politically dead after this week. The White House didn’t, as the Washington Post reported yesterday, which I characterized as “stupid,” touching off a series of responses in the blogosphere and on Twitter. Will the same people call Dionne out for making the same point?
And more to my point, Dionne admits that the level of opposition to the Iranian regime has caught most of what he calls the “realists” on the Left by surprise, apparently including the White House. Why are they surprised? The Iranian regime has been unpopular for years at home, especially with a younger population who have no personal experience of a pre-Khomeini Iran. Instead of cutting deals with the aging oppressors, we should be looking for ways to engage with the upcoming generation of Iranians.
Moreover, Dionne also agrees that the mullahcracy will be “shaky,” even if it survives this crisis, which is not inevitable. Should the US act to prop them up by giving them more credibility than their own people?
But the main basis for my criticism is the idea at the White House that we can trade our support for freedom and liberty for a seat at the mullahs’ table in any circumstance. Consider the following:
- Ronald Reagan sold Iran missiles and unfroze part of their money. Iran continued to support terrorists and wage low-level war against the US.
- Bill Clinton apologized for the CIA role in the mid-1950s coup that put the Shah back on the throne. Iran continued to support terrorists and wage low-level war against the US.
- From 2003 to the present day, Iran supplies terrorists in Iraq with munitions that kill American soldiers, and at least occasionally supplies the personnel as well. Shouldn’t Iran be forced to stop doing that, rather than having the White House suck up to the mullahs, in order to get direct talks?
The idea that keeping quiet while Iranian protestors try to free their nation will convince Khamenei to not only sit down with us openly but give up the nuclear weapons they have spent years developing is beyond naive, especially considering the history of the regime. It crosses over into stupidity. It comes from a mindset that the problem in the relationship is America and not the extremist mullahs ruling Iran, an argument that the Iranians themselves rejected this week in protests across their nation.
France and Germany, which trade with Iran, haven’t been foolish enough to surrender their right to express outrage at the mullahs and support for the protestors. If Obama did the same, it wouldn’t kill the possibility of disarmament through direct talks, because that possibility never existed at all. Instead, we would give encouragement to the people of Iran to keep working for freedom, which is much less of a long shot than Obama talking Khamenei out of his nuclear weapons. (via Jim Geraghty)








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One has to believe in freedom first in order to support it.
You’re just as dumb and naive as you were the last time we spotted you around here.
Schadenfreude on June 22, 2009 at 1:06 PM
People have accused you of being a ‘bot’ and I can see why. You’re comments are so monotone in delivery, so…what’s the word….almost like you’re hypnotized and reading from a talking points memo issued by Axlerod.
You think it’s a mistake to attack the President of the US for not supporting, with all his might, the young voice of revolution in a country that has been hard-line for 30 years, wants to wipe Israel off the map and wants nukes so bad they have the shakes?? It’s ridiculous to go further?? Are you serious? You are either a computer with some AI or you are literally hypnotized with no ability to think rationally for yourself.
Obey Obama….Obey Obama…we shouldn’t criticize Obama…It’s ridiculous to do more than he has already done…Obey Obama…Obey Obama…He’s right in his actions…
creepy
Thunderstorm129 on June 22, 2009 at 1:13 PM
I think most Dems agree with Republicans on this. Hell, even Biden, and Hillary voiced their concern over his reaction, or lack there of.
capejasmine on June 22, 2009 at 1:18 PM
Barry on ‘smart diplomacy’. Once again, a day late and a dollar short.
GarandFan on June 22, 2009 at 1:29 PM
Oh ye of little faith.Our messiah Obama will heal all, our messiah Obama will bring those dead back to life.All we need to do is chant, Yes We Can, Yes We Can!
Jeff from WI on June 22, 2009 at 1:33 PM
Yeah, why would the American President stand up for the concept of freedom to assemble. It’s one of those rights in the Constitituion you statists tend to overlook in your zeal to create an oppressive regime in this country.
Obama failed no matter how much you nutjobs want to apologize for the incompetent filthy liar.
highhopes on June 22, 2009 at 1:34 PM
As always the left is saying “this or tha president whose foriegn policy we hated, did what Obama is doing therefore it’s OK.” To which I say what? I mean, what? Why isn’t your fracking head exploding from that? You LIKED RONALD REAGAN”S FOREIGN POLICY NOW?
billhedrick on June 22, 2009 at 1:34 PM
But with promises that his actions will create or save days and dollars.
highhopes on June 22, 2009 at 1:35 PM
Right on. Idiots and trolls always trot out “well, Boosh/Ray-gun did it”. They go silent when you ask them “So, you’re holding up Bush and Reagan as models to be emulated, then?”
They can never get past the “nyaa-nyaa” level of discourse, and it’s generally useless even trying to get them to frame a cogent argument — that’s why they’re liberals.
mr.blacksheep on June 22, 2009 at 1:48 PM
No wonder Obama has crosses, covered up, when ever he’s to speak at a function, where a crucifix hangs. Who needs THAT kind of competition, and pressure. LOL
capejasmine on June 22, 2009 at 1:49 PM
I think Ryan Mauro’s article spells out with extreme clarity just how important this uprising in Iran actually is. If Obama sits the fence on a situation like this when so many other pieces of the chess board are at risk, we shouldn’t let him continue to be President – period. The entire middle east is possibly up for grabs all because of the courage of the Iranian people and Obama goes golfing. That is what nightmares are made of.
Thunderstorm129 on June 22, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Yeah, the reviews at Amazon pretty much sum it up: “In Loewen’s ideal text, events and people illuminating the multicultural holy trinity of race, gender, and social class would predominate over the fixation on heroes and acts of government. Such is the mood adopted throughout this critique of 12 American history texts in current use. Vetting 10 topics they commonly address–from the Pilgrims to the Vietnam War–Loewen bewails a long train of alleged omissions and distortions. To account for the deplorable situation, he offers this quasi-Marxist explanation: ‘Perhaps we are all dupes, manipulated by elite white male capitalists who orchestrate how history is written as part of their scheme to perpetuate their own power and privilege at the expense of the rest of us.’” (Booklist)
evergreen on June 22, 2009 at 3:12 PM
I keep reading about the CIA role in the 1953 coup in Iran like it is an established fact. This is utterly false like the idea that Al Gore claimed to have created the internet. Both ideas are just repeated in the absence of facts. Here are the facts. A CIA agent Kermit Roosevelt went to Iran, and is alleged to have overthrow a democratically elected government by clever persuasion and small bribes.
If it is true that Roosevelt contributed the 1953 coup, about the most that can be said is that the United States helped the factions invovled in the Iranian coup. You don’t have a stable government, if it can overthrown by small bribes. Another viewpoint–the one I support–is that Kermit had more than a touch of Walter Mitty in his personality. His success was simply getting Dulles and Churchill to believe his fantasy.
Even if I’m wrong and Kermit contributed somehow, the United States CIA was at best a minor actor in 1953 Iranian coup. Let’s stop giving the United States major billing.
I would go so far as to say that giving United States top billing in the 1953 coup is racist. It reduces the Iranians to puppets of the CIA which they weren’t. Iranians are more than smart enough to throw own coup.
thuja on June 22, 2009 at 3:20 PM
Because most on the left thought than any hostility inside Iran was mainly due to opposition to the U.S. Middle East policies of George W. Bush, and that once Obama was in office, the Iranian leadership would become less autocratic and the public in turn more supportive of their leaders, because Obama makes the world go ’round.
jon1979 on June 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Also known as the “Hey – I’m not Bush!” school of foreign policy.
Thunderstorm129 on June 22, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Ed, one thing you forgot in your bullet points was the most obvious. That former President Carter FORCED THE SHAH off the throne and handed Iran over to these fanatic butchers. That is the reason Iran is in the situation it is in today. Hey, how about sending CARTER to The Hague to stand trial for giving the world the “Islamic” Republic of Iran?!
righty64 on June 22, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Coup in ’53 – Remember the Cold War? It was the right thing to do.
Khomeini coup ’79 – Handed to the mullahs by President Carter. Can anyone argue that the Iranian people are better off today than they would have been if still under the Shah?
Today – As stated in Powerline; we owe a blood debt to the likes of Amadinejahd. For the first time in history, America is not standing true to our base principles. Who are we as a country if we don’t stand for freedom and individual rights? That the President of the United States has to be pulled, reluctantly, to support people dying in the streets of Baghdad is a tragedy.
IcePilot on June 22, 2009 at 5:04 PM
I really don’t understand how the intelligencia(liberals) in this country can be so completely unaware of anything happening outside their little cocoon.
Let me quote a wise man nearly some 6 years ago:
So, why are people like Dionne so late in coming to the party and why is our current stubborn headstrong leader so intent on negotiations that he ignores all of history?
They live in the same cocoon and the light, particularly the light of reality barely enters the shell!
David
LifeTrek on June 22, 2009 at 7:09 PM
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