Mousavi threatened into silence: Guardian

posted at 11:00 am on June 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

If Mirhossein Mousavi hasn’t said much publicly for the last 24 hours, either to cancel or endorse public protests, the Guardian says they know the reason.  Mohsen Makhmalbaf claims that he has to speak for Mousavi — and Iran — after the Revolutionary Guard wrecked Mousavi’s offices and threatened him into silence.  Makhmalbaf writes that the movement has gone beyond the sham election, and that Iranians will not return to oppression, at least not quietly:

I have been given the responsibility of telling the world what is happening in Iran. The office of Mir Hossein Mousavi, who the Iranian people truly want as their leader, has asked me to do so. They have asked me to tell how Mousavi’s headquarters was wrecked by plainclothes police officers. To tell how the commanders of the revolutionary guard ordered him to stay silent. To urge people to take to the streets because Mousavi could not do so directly.

The people in the streets don’t want a recount of last week’s vote. They want it annulled. This is a crucial moment in our history. Since the 1979 revolution Iran has had 80% dictatorship and 20% democracy. We have dictatorship because one person is in charge, the supreme leader – first Khomeini, now Khamenei. He controls the army and the clergy, the justice system and the media, as well as our oil money.

There are some examples of democracy – reformers elected to parliament, and the very fact that a person like Mousavi could stand for election. But, since the day of the election, this element of democracy has vanished. Ayatollah Ali Khamenei announced that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had won, and that whoever opposed this will be suppressed – a position he affirmed speaking today in Tehran. People wanted to have demonstrations within the law, but the authorities would not let them. This is the first time we have seen millions on the streets without the permission of the supreme leader.

Now they are gathering to mourn those who have died. The people of Iran have a culture that elevates martyrdom. In the period running up to the revolution, when people were killed at demonstrations, others would gather again in the days following the death. This cycle carried on for six months, and culminated in the revolution. Today they are gathering in Tehran for those who were shot on Tuesday, and if there are more killings, this will continue.

Ahmadinejad may have been the focus of their ire in the first hours, but no longer.  The people understand that the authors of their misery are Khamenei and the Guardian Council, and they want an end to it.  The revolution of 30 years ago traded one form of oppression for another, and now the Iranians want their freedom.

Makhmalbaf acknowledges that Mousavi himself was a creature of the “ruling class,” as Khamenei called it, but that Mousavi has moved from violent revolution to freedom:

Previously, he was revolutionary, because everyone inside the system was a revolutionary. But now he’s a reformer. Now he knows Gandhi – before he knew only Che Guevara. If we gain power through aggression we would have to keep it through aggression. That is why we’re having a green revolution, defined by peace and democracy.

Let’s hope that’s true.  His inclusion on the ballot by the same mullahs tends to make me skeptical of those claims, but if this report is true, Mousavi has already crossed the Rubicon and has nowhere to go within the ruling class.

If the Iranians want true self-determination, though, it may require Gandhi-esque toleration of the worst this regime can dish out in its final throes.

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progressoverpeace on June 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM
freeus on June 20, 2009 at 12:37 PM

If the mullahs succeed in crushing this uprising, that might be a good time for Israel to act against Iran’s nuclear facilities, combining self-defense with a punitive blow against Iran’s tyrants.

Of course, there’s Barry’s reaction to consider. He does have a nasty pout.

Loxodonta on June 20, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Loxodonta on June 20, 2009 at 12:43 PM

Yep. I’m with you, Lox.

progressoverpeace on June 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM

FireBlogger on June 20, 2009 at 11:45 AM

I’m sure there are 1000′s of people out in the streets while this is happening. With everyone there apparently “tweeting” this on their cell phones, has anyone sent an actual video of it happening?

BallisticBob on June 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM

Of course, NOW would be the time to finally take out Iran’s nuclear industry. The resulting chaos would even help the anti-Khameini groups gain an upper hand.

But, we were all told how much “right” Iran has to their nukes by the moron in the White House, so we know that this isn’t going to happen.

After this is all over, Iran will be more of a threat than they were before it started. Great.

progressoverpeace on June 20, 2009 at 12:19 PM

Obama using a crisis as an opportunity to do some things he couldn’t as easily do before? No, I can’t imagine the Obama Administration would ever think about that concept as it applies to an enemy state. That’s strictly reserved for attacking domestic centers of gravity to overthrow capitalism.

econavenger on June 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Loxodonta on June 20, 2009 at 12:43 PM

progressoverpeace on June 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM

If revolution ever goes domestic. Just know Texas has a place for you on our team. Or vice versa!

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM

History (and God) have a great sense of humor….a big protest rally in Paris in support of the demonstrators….
How does it feel, Mullahs? You did the same, many moons ago when the Shah fell.

Allah Akbar! indeed

Limerick on June 20, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Obama’s getting a bad rap for all this. I suggest he get some well-deserved R&R in Hawaii over the 4th.

JiangxiDad on June 20, 2009 at 11:41 AM

*snort*

BTW I always enjoy your insights and observations.

onlineanalyst on June 20, 2009 at 12:51 PM

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Thanks, Houston. You might be getting a 3am call from me in the not-too-distant future :)

progressoverpeace on June 20, 2009 at 12:54 PM

I agree with your assessment regarding Israel. I was speaking of the US hitting Iran’s nuke industry. Don’t worry, I know that there’s no chance that would ever happen, anyway.

progressoverpeace on June 20, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Sorry, I misunderstood WHO you were speaking of as in striking the nukes.

Major, mega dittos to the US not striking. Not a snowballs chance in hell that is going to happen. Not until 2013.

When taking out the nukes are mentioned, the only people I think of in terms of removing the nukes is Israel.

freeus on June 20, 2009 at 12:54 PM

Saltysam on June 20, 2009 at 11:20 AM

He should be worried. This is getting uglier by the second. I hope he is taking pause and reflecting on his last 5 months. People here were taking to the streets in February. Then the Tea Parties. Now July 4th is coming up soon and things have only gotten worse here. More tea parties. Has this ever happened to any President in our country so soon after an election?
Watch his next small and ineffective statement about those Iranians. He might throw in the word democracy once or twice, but he cannot say the word Freedom. He’d choke first.

BetseyRoss on June 20, 2009 at 12:58 PM

onlineanalyst on June 20, 2009 at 12:51 PM

tks.

JiangxiDad on June 20, 2009 at 1:01 PM

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM

Thanks, but speaking on behalf of all Barry’s older opponents, we’re senile and easily disoriented. So, DHS elder services will be taking us camping.

Loxodonta on June 20, 2009 at 1:02 PM

progressoverpeace on June 20, 2009 at 12:54 PM

:) I guarantee we’ll answer and ACT immediately!

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 1:02 PM

Loxodonta on June 20, 2009 at 12:43 PM
progressoverpeace on June 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM
If revolution ever goes domestic. Just know Texas has a place for you on our team. Or vice versa!

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM

ME too Me too PLEASE!

LSUMama on June 20, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Loxodonta on June 20, 2009 at 1:02 PM

You crack me up. BTW my tent is at the ready. Think they’ll let me take the rest of my gear?

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 1:04 PM

LSUMama on June 20, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Absolutely….Come one come all. We have anti trolling mechanisms

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 1:06 PM

Thanks, but speaking on behalf of all Barry’s older opponents, we’re senile and easily disoriented. So, DHS elder services will be taking us camping.

Loxodonta on June 20, 2009 at 1:02 PM

No camping trip until you all are lined up behind Barry at one of his Obamacare Photo-ops… Clap when they say clap or there will be no tent for you…

Upstater85 on June 20, 2009 at 1:09 PM

If the mullahs succeed in crushing this uprising, that might be a good time for Israel to act against Iran’s nuclear facilities, combining self-defense with a punitive blow against Iran’s tyrants.

Of course, there’s Barry’s reaction to consider. He does have a nasty pout.

Loxodonta on June 20, 2009 at 12:43 PM

I have heard Israel has 5 months to do something, or the Iranian missile shield system will be up and running. K.T. McFarland said this about two weeks ago, and I have read it else where.

I totally agree. However, they need to do it in a way which would make it look like they have provided some cover for the people. If the mullahs have the people driven into their homes, and not out and about; that would be a very good time because it would be less civilian casualties. Less lashing out at Israel via the West. Less lashing out at Israel via the Iranian people. Plus, it would possibly be a way to take out the mad mullahs. “Ooops, so sorry we accidentally bombed Khamenei’s headquarters. So sorry.” Timing with this is everything. If Israel could do this in a way that would benefit the revolutionaries…

Seeing this twice in a lifetime is weird.

What a comparison to how Conservative Presidents handle things like this versus how a radical Democrat handles this! I see this situation as being a benefit for Americans no matter the outcome in Iran. There are so many young people who have no point of historical reference when it comes to foreign policy, and its importance for America and the world. This could be a very positive learning tool for the Right if we could just find the proper leaders to capitalize on how important it is to not believe you can have all the answers, or speak with dictators without preconditions. Obama really looks like the novice we all knew he was, and “Man-Child” seems to be rather inadequate as a description.

freeus on June 20, 2009 at 1:10 PM

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 1:04 PM

Well, that depends. The instructions I got is that we’re not to bring anything unless it’s biodegradable. For some reason.

Loxodonta on June 20, 2009 at 1:13 PM

You guys hear about the protest in D.C.? It would appear some are in the streets here in support of the Iranian people. Our protest looked like their protest. Something was burning in a street.

In my lifetime, I cannot remember a time when the world seemed so much upside down, or totally nuts. Never. The whole freaking world is on fire!

freeus on June 20, 2009 at 1:14 PM

freeus on June 20, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Which is the exact same missle shield that Greece bought from Russia and that Greece allowed the IAF to use twice to test it’s capabilities. This is also the same system that Syria had that failed to stop the penetration of it’s airspace when the IAF knocked out that reactor.

Limerick on June 20, 2009 at 1:15 PM

Well, that depends. The instructions I got is that we’re not to bring anything unless it’s biodegradable. For some reason.

Loxodonta on June 20, 2009 at 1:13 PM

Does that mean that you can still bring that Bio-degradable toilet paper with Obama’s face printed on it?

Upstater85 on June 20, 2009 at 1:16 PM

New Summer blockbuster coming!!! Silence of the Lambs Part II, starring Barrack “Smart Power” Obama with mime impressions by the clueless U.N.

Bob in VA on June 20, 2009 at 1:17 PM

New Summer blockbuster coming!!! Silence of the Lambs Part II, starring Barrack “Smart Power” Obama with mime impressions by the clueless U.N.

Bob in VA on June 20, 2009 at 1:17 PM

Wait… if it’s Silence of the Lambs… no… that can’t be… I thought Obama was The Lamb (according to AP)… That would mean he would shut up for once.

Upstater85 on June 20, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Limerick on June 20, 2009 at 1:15 PM

That’s good to know, since I would think that Bibi will wait until after the mid-terms before deciding – especially after the last few days.

OldEnglish on June 20, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Upstater85 on June 20, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Ah, yes. Youth. If it’s not sex, it’s scatological humor. DHS latrine duty for you.

Loxodonta on June 20, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Ah, yes. Youth. If it’s not sex, it’s scatological humor. DHS latrine duty for you.

Loxodonta on June 20, 2009 at 1:23 PM

Lox, I will gladly take latrine duty, if you promise to share some of that Change We Can Believe In TP.

Upstater85 on June 20, 2009 at 1:27 PM

Already heard from teaparty organizers and the Iran situation is on the agenda. Expecting 10K+ and growing. I wonder how the MSM will twist this.

“Right wing extemist up in arms over protestors in Iran. White House denouces group as meddlesome and counterproducive.”

Yeah, that sounds about right.

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 1:32 PM

“Right wing extemist up in arms over protestors in Iran. White House denouces group as meddlesome and counterproducive.”

Yeah, that sounds about right.

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 1:32 PM

Sounds about right…

Barry wants them to fail.

Upstater85 on June 20, 2009 at 1:39 PM

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 1:32 PM

I think it’s very smart for Tea Party organizers to keep an eye on Iran. As long as the mullahs are brutalizing the citizens and the citizens are responding defensively, Obama should be ridiculed for his response. Also, if the citizens revolt is somehow successful with minimal violence on their part. But, if those conducting the Iranian uprising become brutal themselves, then I would be wary about how to incorporate Iran into Tea Party protests.

Loxodonta on June 20, 2009 at 1:43 PM

In my lifetime, I cannot remember a time when the world seemed so much upside down, or totally nuts. Never. The whole freaking world is on fire!

freeus on June 20, 2009 at 1:14 PM

I hear you, dude. On the other hand, you must be getting old because every generation thinks their time is the most radical. My parents thought it was the end of civilization during the 60′s with all the turmoil going on then…

yubley on June 20, 2009 at 1:48 PM

My parents thought it was the end of civilization during the 60’s with all the turmoil going on then…

yubley on June 20, 2009 at 1:48 PM

It almost was. JFK brought us very close to total annihilation, thanks to his amateur foreign policy that whet the lips of the Soviets.

And as to the domestic turmoil at the end of the 60′s, those insane America-haters are the ones in the junta in Washington, right now. They were dangerous as street protesters, but now they hold the levers of power, and their ideology hasn’t chjanged one bit – except that they are even nastier than they were.

We don’t always make it through rough times. Every so often, the rough times are too rough. This is looking to be one of those times. There is no denying it.

And the idiocy of the America-hating junta in Washington is pushing the whole world to chaos (as most people never appreciated the role of American power in global stability). How safe do you feel with The Precedent and Traitor-in-Chief having the nuclear football? He wants to destroy America and he has been working towards that goal very well.

All generations might think that they are at a tipping point in history, but every so often a generation truly is there. We are that generation.

progressoverpeace on June 20, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Loxodonta on June 20, 2009 at 1:43 PM

As always, you are absolutely accurate in you assessment.

progressoverpeace on June 20, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Scary that is has come to this. Did’t ask for this responsibility, but we must all except it nonetheless. And, God willing, we’ll make it to the other side with Country intact.

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 2:01 PM

If the Iranians want true self-determination, though, it may require Gandhi-esque toleration of the worst this regime can dish out in its final throes.

Wrong, Ed, completely and utterly wrong.

Gandhi-esque imbicility only works against decent human beings. If they want self-determination, they’re going to have to be willing to kill those who want to keep them enslaved.

Period. Dot.

Greg Q on June 20, 2009 at 2:06 PM

It almost was. JFK brought us very close to total annihilation, thanks to his amateur foreign policy that whet the lips of the Soviets.

And as to the domestic turmoil at the end of the 60’s, those insane America-haters are the ones in the junta in Washington, right now. They were dangerous as street protesters, but now they hold the levers of power, and their ideology hasn’t chjanged one bit – except that they are even nastier than they were.

We don’t always make it through rough times. Every so often, the rough times are too rough. This is looking to be one of those times. There is no denying it.

And the idiocy of the America-hating junta in Washington is pushing the whole world to chaos (as most people never appreciated the role of American power in global stability). How safe do you feel with The Precedent and Traitor-in-Chief having the nuclear football? He wants to destroy America and he has been working towards that goal very well.

All generations might think that they are at a tipping point in history, but every so often a generation truly is there. We are that generation.

progressoverpeace on June 20, 2009 at 1:55 PM

+100

katy on June 20, 2009 at 2:10 PM

TehranBureau:

WHOLE city is shaking with very loud screams from rooftops. Their loud voices calling only for God is filled with fear, hatred, and hope.

The Iranian people are being brutalized. I pray they can find it in their hearts to seek justice, and not simply revenge.

Loxodonta on June 20, 2009 at 2:11 PM

That is why we’re having a green revolution, defined by peace and democracy.

I fear that is not enough. I will pray for them, but I wish I could give them guns.

At least moral relativism will be revealed as a fool’s errand–the world will finally see that the mullahs’ regime is criminal not merely different.

PattyJ on June 20, 2009 at 2:22 PM

A streetlamp for each mullah!

One construction crane for every ayatollah!

The Persian people are speaking out:

The 80% dictatorship must end.

profitsbeard on June 20, 2009 at 3:19 PM

For all those conservatives who refused to vote and support McCain this is on you. I may not have liked McCain but I understood the difference between him and the One and McCain would have handled this properly.

lavell12 on June 20, 2009 at 4:33 PM

It’s not been about Mousavi for a while now. Good to know that we won’t be seeing any Che shirts on the protesters though.

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Unfortunately…

warbaby on June 20, 2009 at 4:39 PM

progressoverpeace on June 20, 2009

Iraq is three groups of opinion:
-Talibani and the Kurds have been playig the devils advocate for generatia (they minorities in 4 seperate nations that have done horrors to them so playing the middle is not just diplo speak but a requirement of survival).

-The Sunni don’t need to even say their thoughts everyone already knows without question.

-The Shia are the majority and the sway vote that counts. Maliki and the non-Sadr strain of Iraqi Shia leadership being silent non-recognition is a big deal and probably the limit for a neighbor just recovering from a 6yr Islamist insurgency partially funded by the Mullahs no less.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124526049259323973.html

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani publicly congratulated Mr. Ahmadinejad on his win, a customary diplomatic gesture. But other politicians, including Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki, who spent years of exile in Iran, have remained noticeably silent on the contested victory.

Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, the leader of Iraq’s largest Shia party, also spent years in Iran and is there now, receiving treatment for cancer. He hailed Iranian supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, after the election, but pointedly left out any mention of Mr. Ahmadinejad.

C-Low on June 20, 2009 at 4:53 PM

Powerful statement, and he’s very right. It must be done peacefully or it won’t last.

AnninCA on June 20, 2009 at 5:20 PM

Reagan spins like lathe.

BHO Jonestown on June 20, 2009 at 6:16 PM


I can’t wait for the Obama Ahmadinejad photo op during their negotiating “summit”. I mean the campaign commercials seem to write themselves. tee hee!

elduende on June 20, 2009 at 7:53 PM

The unfortunate Iranians are finding out the difference between Bush and Obama. Maybe they didn’t like Bush’s style, but his substance would be more of a help than all of Baracky’s style right now.

PattyJ on June 21, 2009 at 11:02 AM

I personally support staying far away and out of the story. It’s more impressive to see the Iranian people handle this than even have a hint that this is a CIA-generated type uprising.

America has been there, done that, and it’s failed miserably.

We are witnessing a revolution, I believe. It’s unfolding in an unprecedented way, which is completely captivating the entire world.

Amazing stuff.

AnninCA on June 21, 2009 at 11:10 AM

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