Chaos in Iran: I’m ready for martyrdom, says Mousavi; Videos: Woman murdered in cold blood; Update: Obama calls on regime to end violence; Update: Obama goes out for ice cream; Rumor: 150 dead? Report: Mousavi’s office sends letter to Obama?
posted at 9:23 am on June 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Today is widely considered the crucial day of the Iranian crisis, which erupted when the ruling mullahs of the Guardian Council made their vote-rigging too obvious for their subjects to ignore. Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei warned Iranians yesterday that his patience was at an end with protests, but activists claimed that they would defy Khamenei and gather again in cities to protest the government and the election results. Today, sketchy reports have hundreds of police blocking access to key areas, including the use of teargas, to keep protestors out:
Heavily armed police prevented several thousand Iranian protesters Saturday from entering Revolution Square — one of the main protest sites in Tehran, a witness told CNN.
About a mile away, police kept the crowd back by throwing two canisters of tear gas at their feet, the witness said.
The Web site of the main opposition candidate, Mir Hossein Moussavi, quoted news reports as saying a flood of people were headed to the capital from surrounding towns.
Thus far, we’ve seen attempts by the government to spread misinformation about the rallies, and confusion and hesitation among the organizers. Protests today will almost certainly be an irrevocable act. If the government doesn’t act with force to suppress the protests, the mullahs will lose all credibility and will have to run for their lives. If they give the order to attack and the police don’t carry it out, they will have to run for their lives. They know the stakes and the risk, but the alternatives for them are all bad; their backs are against the wall — but they still have all the guns, at least for now.
We’ll keep an eye on reports and update as the day goes along. So far, it looks as though the confrontation will come.
Update (AP): Multiple Iranian twitterers are claiming there’s been some sort of explosion at Khomeini’s shrine, which they’re treating as the regime’s version of the Reichstag fire. There’s precedent for that in Iranian history, too.
Update (Ed): NBC’s Today has a good, if basic, report this morning:
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Update (AP): The Khaleej Times says the explosion at Khomeini’s shrine was caused by a suicide bomber. Hmmm.
Update (AP): Two mind-blowing videos for you. The second is familiar; it’s clearly taken at the same assault on the Basij complex that I wrote about earlier this week. Watch all the way through and you’ll see Iranian protesters actually fall after being shot. I don’t know where the first clip is from — it was uploaded by BBC Persia today but could also be from the Basij complex incident a few days ago — but it’s the closest thing I’ve seen yet to all-out war.
As I write this, Iranian twitterers are reporting use of water cannons, teargas, gunshots, and even some sort of burning agent being dropped on the crowds by helicopters. There’s still no confirmation as far as I know that a bomb really did go off at Khomeini’s shrine, but Reuters is now reporting that Mousavi supporters have set fire to a building being used by Ahmadinejad supporters. And now, suddenly, Mousavi is making some sort of statement where he says he’s prepared for martyrdom. Sounds like the gloves are finally all the way off.
Update (AP): Anecdotally, after following them all week, I can tell you that the tone of Iranian twitterers is strikingly different from what it’s been before. Some are openly asking people to pray for them. The fear is palpable.
Here’s a poignant video in Farsi with English subtitles that’s making the rounds today. The din you hear in the background is Tehranians screaming “Allahu Akbar” in defiance of Khamenei last night.
Update (AP): A comparatively calm but significant new clip: According to NIAC, protesters can be heard chanting “Marg bar Khamenei,” i.e. “Death to Khamanei.” It’s not about Ahmadinejad anymore.
Update (AP): If you’re unfamiliar with the cast of characters in Iran, Time’s primer is useful. Meanwhile, new video of what the streets look like in Tehran today. Note the end, where a few protesters display nightsticks they’ve seized from the Basij — to cheers from the crowd.
Update (AP): To see just how bad things have gotten, brace yourself and click here. Strong content warning.
Update (AP): Mousavi knows the regime can’t let him walk free forever and is calling for a strike if he’s detained. Who steps in if he’s jailed, I wonder. Karroubi? Rafsanjani, whom Khamenei would be loath to arrest lest it inflame the clerics?
Gosh, if only the U.S. had troops stationed in some neighboring country or countries so that we could start feeding weapons to the protesters.
Update (AP): Not sure if this is wise under the circumstances, but Israel’s minister for strategic affairs is now openly predicting a revolution — with no resulting change in Iran’s nuke program. Meanwhile, a provocative report from NIAC:
This morning a friend of NIAC who gets Iranian Satellite TV here said that state-run media showed President Obama speaking about Iran this morning. However, instead of translating what he actually said, the translator reportedly quoted Obama as saying he “supports the protesters against the government and they should keep protesting.
Assuming this report is correct, it shows the Iranian government is eager to portray Obama as a partisan supporting the demonstrators.
Update (AP): A HuffPo reader reports that the news about a bombing at Khomeini’s shrine appears to be yet another regime lie:
“I’m watching state TV here in Dubai and they just did a report on the bombing at the mausoleum. There was NO DAMAGE. All they showed was a broken window saying the “terrorists” luckily blew themselves up outside the building before doing any damage inside. The “bombing” was clearly a fraud as there was NO DAMAGE done to the mausoleum other than a broken window they showed at the entrance of the building. It clearly looked like there was NO BOMBING, no explosion fragments or blood shown just one shattered window. Also a correction to my previous e-mail. The program said the youths had been talking to “friends” in the U.K. and the U.S. on the phone about causing destruction in Iran rather than actually going to the U.S. and being trained. Important difference but the subtext is the same. They’re clearly building a case for foreign interference i.e. the U.K and U.S.”
Update (AP): Dear god. Here’s another extremely graphic video of the murder of the young woman I linked up above. NIAC translates the Facebook description as follows: “A young woman who was standing aside with her father watching the protests was shot by a basij member hiding on the rooftop of a civilian house. He had clear shot at the girl and could not miss her. However, he aimed straight her heart. I am a doctor, so I rushed to try to save her. But the impact of the gunshot was so fierce that the bullet had blasted inside the victim’s chest, and she died in less than 2 minutes.”
Update (AP): Another one that’s going viral shot at Shiraz University. Note at about 90 seconds in how the police trap women against the gate and break out the nightsticks. Click the image to watch.
Update (AP): Multiple reports on Twitter now that people are shouting from the rooftops — literally — at Khamenei and the regime.
Update (AP): Verrry interesting: Rooftop shouts now being heard in Mashad, the Shiites’ second holiest city. Proof that the clerics are coming around to the people’s side?
Update (AP): Another murder in Tehran. Skip ahead to 3:25 to see the latest victim of Iran’s “robust debate,” or watch from the beginning and you’ll find protesters picking up rocks and chanting “Marg bar dictator.”
Update (AP): A statement from the White House:
The Iranian government must understand that the world is watching. We mourn each and every innocent life that is lost. We call on the Iranian government to stop all violent and unjust actions against its own people. The universal rights to assembly and free speech must be respected, and the United States stands with all who seek to exercise those rights.
As I said in Cairo, suppressing ideas never succeeds in making them go away. The Iranian people will ultimately judge the actions of their own government. If the Iranian government seeks the respect of the international community, it must respect the dignity of its own people and govern through consent, not coercion.
Martin Luther King once said – “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” I believe that. The international community believes that. And right now, we are bearing witness to the Iranian peoples’ belief in that truth, and we will continue to bear witness.
Update (AP): An ominous rumor from Tehran Bureau: “good source: Hospital close to the scene in Tehran: 30-40 dead thus far as of 11pm and 200 injured. Police taking names of incoming injured.”
Update (AP): I linked the Facebook video of the young woman being murdered by the Basij earlier but it deserves wide dissemination so I’m giving you the embeddable LiveLeak version too. Forward the link around.
Update (AP): More Twitter reports trickling in about acid or some other sort of corrosive agent being dropped on protesters. And there’s a hot rumor that the Canadian embassy in Tehran has its gates closed to the injured, even as many other embassies have theirs opened. Can anyone confirm/deny?
Update (AP): It’s raining rocks on the streets of Tehran.
Update (AP): Reuel Marc Gerecht tries to answer the million-dollar question: Why would Khamenei risk his supreme authority to fix the election for a disposable goon like Ahmadinejad?
Khamenei, who worked with and struggled against Mousavi for a decade, knows the former prime minister politically as well as anyone. The supreme leader knows that what Mousavi lacks in charisma he has always made up in doggedness…
Khamenei acted so crudely and rashly on June 12 because he’d already seen this movie. What’s happening in Iran now is all about democracy, about the contradictory and chaotic bedfellows that it makes, about the questioning of authority and the personal curiosity that it unleashes. Khamenei knows what George H.W. Bush’s “realist” national security adviser Brent Scowcroft surely knows, too: Democracy in Iran implies regime change. Where Iranians in the 1990s could try to play games with themselves–be in favor of greater democracy but refrain from saying publicly that the current government was illegitimate–this fiction is no longer possible. Khamenei has forced Mousavi and, more important, the people behind him into opposition to himself and the political system he leads. Unless Mousavi gives up, and thereby deflates the millions who’ve gathered around him, a permanent opposition to Khamenei and his constitutionally ordained supremacy has now formed. Like it or not, Mousavi has become the new Khatami–except this time the opposition is stronger and led by a man of considerable intestinal fortitude.
I don’t get it. If Mousavi’s famous for his perseverance, the last thing you’d want to do is antagonize him and his youth movement by defrauding him. It’s practically begging for an uprising. The smart move would be to placate him by bringing him into the regime and then compromising with him on some basic reforms; that, at least, would keep the regime in place. It makes more sense to me to think that Khamenei feared opposing Ahmadinejad because he’s been such a generous patron to the Revolutionary Guard. If Mousavi won and Khamenei endorsed it, the Guard might stage a coup to protect the gravy train they’ve been riding for the past four years. That’s my theory and I’m sticking to it.
Update (AP): Have we already reached the point in the crackdown where negotiating with Iran is unthinkable? I know The One has his heart set on it, but the point’s going to come — if it hasn’t already — where the regime behaves so monstrously that he simply can’t afford a photo op with them. As a thought experiment, imagine that the tanks roll tomorrow and then Khamenei turns around on Monday and offers to give up the nuclear program in exchange for the lifting of all sanctions and full diplomatic recognition. Can Obama make that deal now, knowing that it would legitimize these monsters?
Update (AP): Uh oh: The latest Twitter rumor claims there’s a tank in Azadi Square.
Update (AP): CBS reporter Mark Knoller reports that the president decided today of all days would be a good time for a leisurely trip to the ice-cream parlor. Quoth Jim Treacher: “Imagine if Bush went on an ice cream run during something like this. He’d be ‘Worst Person in the World’ every day forever.” Any lefties care to dispute that, especially in light of the longstanding faux outrage over this clip?
Update (AP): The latest unverified/rumored death toll is 150. In other news, Obama ordered a small cup of vanilla.
Update (AP): If Gutfeld’s this pissed about the skateboarding photo op, wait until he hears about the ice cream trip.
Am I an old fart or am I right to be pissed that some jackass is skateboarding down the halls of the White House while all this Iranian shit is going down?…
Right now, people are risking their lives for the glimmer of freedom, and Tony Hawk is in the White House tweeting about Frosted Flakes.
Update (AP): I’m skeptical that Mousavi would send a letter to Obama without publicizing it, but for what it’s worth, Michael Ledeen says he’s got a copy. Excerpt:
In the name of the Iranian people, we want you to know that when you recently made the statement “Achmadinejad or Mousavi? Two of a kind,” we consider this as a grave and deep insult, not just to Mr. Mousavi but especially against the judgment of the Iranian people, against our moral conviction and intelligence, especially those of the young generation that comprises a population of 31 million.
It is a specially grave insult for those who are now fighting for democracy and freedom, and an unwarranted gift and even praise for Mr. Khamenei, whose security forces are now killing peaceful Iranians in the streets of every major city in the country.
Update (AP): If Iranian goons are willing to shoot women dead in the street, I guess it makes sense that they’re willing to drag the wounded from hospitals where they’re being treated. Note that communications from the notorious Evin prison have been cut off, too. I’ve got a nutty hunch that whatever’s going on inside is a bit worse than waterboarding.
Update (AP): CNN is airing YouTube vids of today’s brutality nonstop, which makes me think American public opinion of the regime will soon be so poisonous as to make diplomacy impossible. The One simply won’t be able to justify shaking these cretins’ bloody hands. If that’s so, it means negotiations are dead and a desperate Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear sites is assured — unless the regime is overthrown. The stakes couldn’t be higher.
Update (AP): I keep waiting for news to break that Hamas or Hezbollah has attacked Israel, as Iran could use a distraction right now to appeal to the protesters’ sympathies. Maybe this week? Southern Iraq would be an even more attractive target, as it would embarrass the U.S. The fact that they haven’t done that may be among the best evidence yet of how weak their influence has become in that part of the country.
Update (AP): Just posted at Mousavi’s Facebook page, feast your eyes on Iranian police rushing a crowd of protesters, unsheathing the batons, and swinging for the fences. The chaos starts a little more than a minute in.
Update (AP): The sounds of terror: Screams in the night as the Basij break into people’s homes.
Update (AP): I’m skeptical, but supposedly this clip shows the good guys getting a measure of revenge by lighting a gas line … that leads straight into a Basij complex in eastern Tehran. Watch for the boom five seconds in.










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Texas, I dearly miss San Antonio and the people there.
yoda on June 21, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 9:49 AM
Just note well that Obama going about his daily schedule includes Obama cutting all previously designated Congressional Funds already in progress exporting American medical, food and educational humanitarian goods directed for Iranian democracy organizations that were promoted by Bush and Condi Rice.
Penny saved is a penny earned vs. an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure?
maverick muse on June 21, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Agreed. Whatever he touches, in whatever way, turns to sh*t.
JiangxiDad on June 21, 2009 at 9:54 AM
Hey! Can I play?
To be fair, I posted this on the NYT Poll thread. ;-)
IrishEi on June 21, 2009 at 9:54 AM
To me, its not the ice cream that annoys me
It’s his lack of leadership, THEN going to get ice cream
If he was like
“Listen you mullah suckaz — if yall think you’re gonna be peacin’ out on my people’s in Iran, you’re wrong, b*tches”
or something more eloquent
THEN got ice cream? i’d be fine with it.
blatantblue on June 21, 2009 at 9:55 AM
I know and I made fun of Dave Rywall for trying to Jiminy Crickett people on the ice cream thread for exactly the same thing. This is why I could never be in politics, I can’t mimic the tactics even though the double standard is glaring. Not to worry I will have plenty of other nasty things to say about him because he’s still wrong.
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 9:56 AM
HoustonRight on June 21, 2009 at 9:46 AM
Amen to all of that HR…
Happy Fathers Day to all Dad’s out there. My oldest son is coming down from college for the day, and bringing several mates with him. I’ll be with my wife and two sons, and a bunch of other boys that are from out of state. We are going to the range for some shoot-in practice, then back to the big screen for some US Open treats.
Couldn’t ask for a better day!
(well, if Obama were to be impeached today…)
Keemo on June 21, 2009 at 9:57 AM
The US Destroyer will be authorized to direct a high powered speaker in the direction of the NK ship and play The One’s speeches. Obviously the sound level will be kept below 120 db so as not to cause harm and be accused of torture. No other action is to be sanctioned lest the Dear Leader’s feelings be hurt.
Annar on June 21, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Yoda…I’m sure you’re missed too.
I want everyone to have a GREAT Fathers Day. For me.. it’s off to church to pray for us and them!
HoustonRight on June 21, 2009 at 9:58 AM
IrishEi on June 21, 2009 at 9:54 AM
I chuckled with schadenfreude at the Newsweek article denouncing Obama’s throwing transparency under the bus with his self made legal loop hole.
Impeach Corruption
maverick muse on June 21, 2009 at 9:58 AM
I saw that yesterday and mentioned that it surprised me he didn’t mention it in his saving money goals that are in the millions as he spends trillions. We have plenty to complain about with this president.
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM
I know I am going to start responding to you by annoying you, but your sentence I quoted is the only part of your post that I found annoying.
I wouldn’t be razzing the president for keeping to his normal schedule, if had spoken out more clearly. Also, lots of people are playing politics with what is going on, from the different factions in Iran, through the Middle East, to our own country. This requires sifting of the data received.
Loxodonta on June 21, 2009 at 10:00 AM
NEWSWEEK
Obama’s personal hygiene groom has decided his shit is too much to endure.
maverick muse on June 21, 2009 at 10:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGahhxAPjTk
New vid from today in Iran.
Also. this….
They’re shutting down tweeters.
katy on June 21, 2009 at 10:00 AM
If President Obama will not accept what his advisers tell him, let the pictures speak for themselves.
Now it’s time for a reality check. Think of the facts that surround our current governance. The facts are surprisingly similar and the outcomes will surly be the same.
MSGTAS on June 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM
He really is disgraceful.
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Claire McCaskill publicly requests Obama to clarify WTF he’s doing dismissing three Inspector Generals in violation of HER legislation that HE co-signed.
maverick muse on June 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM
did she really use that term? Awesome….. /
katy on June 21, 2009 at 10:03 AM
No need to apologize. We know you’re smart! :o)
But, I guess the issue (if you are talking about custardgate) is that 1) we live in a hyper celebrity culture and any president knows this and, in particular, this president has capitalized on it. He knows he will get covered, ad infinitum. 2)He has a new responsibility to uphold an image, regardless of a fawning, protective press. 3)He uses media to manipulate and distract constantly and pointedly, as a strategy. 4)He has been loathe to say anything on the issue, wrong or right, from the beginning, thus giving the impression that he does not care or is weak. 5)Ice cream could easily have been delivered…heck…MADE at the White House. 6)A girl standing with her father died next to him, shot in the chest that day during one of the most critical foreign relations issues of his young presidency and his sucking pornographically of an icecream cone while his own citizens are interceding for young Iranians speaks louder than his canned, late, and oddly still narcissistic statement about the brutality in Iran.
Perhaps had he waited until Father’s Day to get Ice Cream, it wouldn’t be so weird. Or, somehow more understandable for an hour. What do you think?
Mommypundit on June 21, 2009 at 10:04 AM
“Emperor Obama, the Iranian peasants have no freedom.”
“Let them eat frozen yogurt.”
jgapinoy on June 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM
Heh!
OldEnglish on June 21, 2009 at 10:10 AM
The Stache is on FOX now saying this is up in the air—anything can happen in Iran…Obama’s policy will fail…
IrishEi on June 21, 2009 at 10:10 AM
Barry: Hey Hill what should we do bout Iran, woman?
Hill: Cackle cackle. Well ya know we could tax it. Joe what do you think?
Joe: I think its time to put a condom on it. Remember I said to gird your loins bro. Barry what do you think, Man?
Barry: I say we abort it. But we could tax it after we put a condom on it and if that don’t work I will get out the Teleprompter and say its racist or something?
Geochelone on June 21, 2009 at 10:10 AM
LOVE custardgate!! Very funny.
I know. I am not looking at this sanely. I have had people demand that I feel or react as they do on a specific situation where I was more personally impacted, so I tend to give people a pass on perceive emotions.
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 10:11 AM
Krauthammer and Coulter tore him a new one last night. He was literally stuttering.
JiangxiDad on June 21, 2009 at 10:12 AM
Speaking of Hillary, why is it that the rights of women only seem to matter in the U.S., where any restriction on abortion is denounced as ruthless oppression of women? Don’t these Iranian women have any rights?
jazz_piano on June 21, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Isn’t The Stache, John Bolton? If not Geraldo has to shave.
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM
Of course it is up to Iran to determine its own fate or future.
But as Iranians cried for people to pray for them, Americans should respond with prayers for God’s will to be done with mercy on the victims of tyranny. Faith without works is dead. America must respond with humanitarian aid; otherwise this would be the FIRST TIME America has refused to do so, VERY BAD OMEN.
We need to contact our Congressional delegates to reinstate the humanitarian aid that Obama cut from our national budget.
Our Commander In Chief had better enable our military to protect American interests without his personal meddling. Hillary Clinton needs to confer with Iraqi officials as to what if anything they request considering the new revolution brewing in Iran. Obama’s Afghan/Pakistan War (as he fights it) needs pragmatic military eyes untainted by politics. Obama is tainted through and through in support of Iran that exports terrorism in the immediate region and globally.
Americans need to focus on our best measures to impeach Obama and Constitutionally remove power from his absolutely corrupt administration. Whoever is in the know is keeping silent, and silence admits acceptance of the status quo.
Conservatives demand precedence to preserve our Constitutional Republic and repudiate Marxism as it devours our government, our economy, and our existence.
maverick muse on June 21, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Looks like they are getting beaten and killed equally.
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 10:15 AM
Yeah–IrishEi, which mustached person are you watching?
jazz_piano on June 21, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Prob. true. i read that the UN authorization in re. NK ships is that anyone stopping one must request permission to board. The Israelis would prob. sink it for us, but I’m not sure they’re feeling like doing Bambi any favors.
JiangxiDad on June 21, 2009 at 10:16 AM
ooh, sorry. think I messed up. I love that stache.
JiangxiDad on June 21, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Yes!
katy on June 21, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Oh, well in *that* case, there’s nothing to see here. (:
jazz_piano on June 21, 2009 at 10:18 AM
I’m checking off.
Gonna call my dad for a happy day in the USA.
maverick muse on June 21, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Dang! I missed that. Was it on with Gerrrraldo? (I tuned out at that point.)
IrishEi on June 21, 2009 at 10:19 AM
ditto.
elduende on June 21, 2009 at 10:20 AM
I can’t tell if he is still developing a stance, probably based on events and polls or if he is sympathetic to Iran’s government. I don’t trust him but has he done anything outside the Washington norm (which is bad enough) to get an impeachment?
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 10:20 AM
http://pajamasmedia.com/ronrosenbaum/2009/06/21/cnns-shocking-suck-up-to-irans-fascists/
Keemo on June 21, 2009 at 10:21 AM
whatever “Moral Authority” Obama ever had (or wished he had) he has squandered over the Iranian uprising.
His feckless and callous disregard for the Iranian people, in a completely vain attempt to not piss off the Mullahs and ImmaDinnerJacket, has exposed him as never before!
Impeach Obama? He has impeached himself!
Justrand on June 21, 2009 at 10:21 AM
Ditto.
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 10:22 AM
LOL. I was talking about Bolton this morning. I was curious to see what Krauthammer and Coulter (or anyone for that matter!) could have said to cause Bolton to stutter. Now that I realize JD was talking about Gerrrraldo, it all makes sense.
IrishEi on June 21, 2009 at 10:23 AM
AGREED!
ctmom on June 21, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 10:20 AM
Fired (3) AIG’s illegally…
I’m not expecting Obama to be impeached for his illegal actions as related to the firing of these AIG’s.. However, I do believe this man is capable of committing an an act that can/will get him impeached in time…
Keemo on June 21, 2009 at 10:25 AM
Cindy Munford, probably even more annoying than your post, we all have to remember John Wayne McCain reminded us all that Obama should not be feared. We need to make sure our next candidate can run firing on all cylinders, and doesn’t put pertinent issues off the table. This episode in Americas history can not be repeated.
fourdeucer on June 21, 2009 at 10:25 AM
El duende
Why wouldn’t Iran have an early form of Mustard Gas?
I am old enough to remember the Iran-Iraq War and the pictures in TIMES magazine of the victims of gassing on both sides . Then they used it on the Kurds. Now they use it on their own people.
The Iranians who live through this will remember Obama’s (US) late response and will hate the regime and hate the US even more. Seeing the injured every day will be a potent reminder to them to hate the US.
journeyintothewhirlwind on June 21, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Some Global protests…
katy on June 21, 2009 at 10:28 AM
This isn’t why he should be impeached. He should be impeached for the firing of the IG’s. Period.
Feckless is good word for him in all things foreign policy, though. It isn’t that he doesn’t have a moral compass. He does. It’s just aligned with a false worldview, therefore defunct. So, his reaction fits nicely with what he does actually believe. It’s just not right. The media will, has, and does spin it in his favor, whatever happens. Sucks.
Get on the IG scandal, though.
Mommypundit on June 21, 2009 at 10:28 AM
I have to admit I am loving this story. It will be amusing to see how his pet media spins this for him. His attack on Mr. Walpin was beneath contempt. Has he considered the impact on the octogenarian vote in 2012?
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Mousavi arrested?
artist on June 21, 2009 at 10:31 AM
But BO sure enjoyed that ice cream cone yesterday. Obviously the misery and death in Iran which displays real COURAGE for CHANGE just falls outside of our great one’s paygrade.
jbh45 on June 21, 2009 at 10:32 AM
I look forward to this person, it will be interesting to see who it is. I feel certain that the person will not be from the cesspool that is Washington, D.C..
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Sorry for confusion. yeah, I was watching the yankees loose to the Marlins and flipped to find Geraldo. Normally I’d shut it off immed. but there was coulter and krauthamm vs. geraldo and some very slick wh spokesman (can’t remember name, sorry.) Coulter was ridiculing his points, Krauthammer was dismantling them, and Geraldo was stuttering. All in all, great TV.
JiangxiDad on June 21, 2009 at 10:33 AM
It was telling when Rev. Wright denounced the U.S. for bombing Japan on Dec. 7, 1941. His version of the facts, and his moral judgment, weren’t just distorted but 180 degrees opposite the truth.
Woe to those who call good evil and evil good.
jazz_piano on June 21, 2009 at 10:36 AM
Geraldo is a punk
I’d love to see him try to spit on MM’s face
So then she could b*tch slap the tanning salon color right out of him
blatantblue on June 21, 2009 at 10:36 AM
The lack of troll footprints speaks so much more loudly then when they are all shouting together.
Barry has accomplished one, and one thing only….despots around the world know they can party like it’s 1984. I left the military in 1979 because of a Peanut Farmer. My son will be leaving the military in 2009 because of a Community Organizer. History does have a sense of humor.
Limerick on June 21, 2009 at 10:40 AM
Limmy you are right
I was just thinking about the trolls
Oddly absent
blatantblue on June 21, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Grat read here. Diary of an Iranian Mother
Lots more to read there.
William Amos on June 21, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Geochelone smacked down dcwvu in another thread…
alliebobbitt on June 21, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Maybe they’re in church listening to another fact-filled sermon from Rev. Wright.
jazz_piano on June 21, 2009 at 10:47 AM
As a sidenote, the lesson we Americans have (re)learned from this Iranian uprising is that when the going gets tough, when the tyrants think they have it all figured out, some fella, or gal, in the trenches out manuevers them. The American soldier/sailor/marine/airman, has from the get-go of this country, been taught to think (regardless of what the lefties say). We bring those lessons home after our ETS and pass them on to our children. Sure, 53% of Americans got flim-flammed, but they won’t forget.
Limerick on June 21, 2009 at 10:48 AM
And the peanut farmer left in ’80, and the CO will leave in ’12. History does have a sense of humor.
JiangxiDad on June 21, 2009 at 10:49 AM
Well, wouldn’t ya know!
Mommypundit on June 21, 2009 at 10:49 AM
I wonder if some Iranians are getting inspiration from what has changed in Iraq
blatantblue on June 21, 2009 at 10:50 AM
CNN did the same thing. We cant verify its true they said as well.
William Amos on June 21, 2009 at 10:50 AM
From the headline up top How could Obama be credited with this uprising in Iran?
He hasn’t changed one thing that George W Bush has done in the last 8 years….Did Obama lift the sanctions that has brought the average Iranian into the streets because of the oppression of the current regime and theocracy? Really Obama did that by going out for Ice Cream while people are being killed in the streets? This is going to be an interesting spin to watch.
So Obama I inherited a bad economy not his responsibility (Bush’s Fault) but if Iran manages a Revolution and achieves a free democracy, it was all his doing? How? By waiting to see which way the wind was blowing on the streets of Iran? He didn’t create the tipping point in Iran. That would be the Bush Administration….looks like George W Bush is getting some of that historical perspective he said, would be coming his way, when History Judges Him. That George W Bush he freed a lot of people, and his legacy might free a whole bunch more in Pakistan and Iran. That leaves North Korea.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/21/weekinreview/21cooper.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss
Dr Evil on June 21, 2009 at 10:51 AM
Sorry you had to serve under carter.
My dad was lucky to be in the USAF under Reagan — said it was the f*cking best
The best feeling — knowing your CiC was a ballsy guy
blatantblue on June 21, 2009 at 10:51 AM
I look forward to this person, it will be interesting to see who it is. I feel certain that the person will not be from the cesspool that is Washington, D.C..
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 10:32 AM
I also hope we don’t settle for someone based on the false premise that they deserve the nomination because of seniority, or that they have an R next to their name.
fourdeucer on June 21, 2009 at 10:52 AM
Off to the range.. I’ll leave you all with this little gem supposedly written by a 15 year old from Az…
Happy Father’s day!!!
Keemo on June 21, 2009 at 10:53 AM
SSHHHHHHHSH! People might start to wonder if Bush had the right idea about freedom and democracy.
You know, that doesn’t help Michelle’s children.
IrishEi on June 21, 2009 at 10:54 AM
CNN/alJazeera. Same difference.
IrishEi on June 21, 2009 at 10:55 AM
Nixon, Ford, and Carter. I got in my licks, but was ordered to show my backside too. Damn skippy, that.
These Iranians won’t be Paul Revere tomorrow. Then again, who the hell really knows?
Limerick on June 21, 2009 at 10:56 AM
He does, but I think his problem was he viewed it as a universal truth.
It may work some places, but not in others — and nation building generally fails
But I see where you’re coming from, and I think Iraq may end up serving as a model.
Asscrakizstan? nah
blatantblue on June 21, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Keemo on June 21, 2009 at 10:53 AM
Hoping for tight groups on the range for you.
fourdeucer on June 21, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Off to church, while it’s still legal for us Bible-clingers to assemble.
jazz_piano on June 21, 2009 at 10:57 AM
God Bless….but remember….one hand on the Bible, one eye on the preacher, one hand on your wallet.
Limerick on June 21, 2009 at 10:59 AM
blatantblue on June 21, 2009 at 10:57 AM
Agreed.
IrishEi on June 21, 2009 at 10:59 AM
That has never worked for Republicans, not once. We need new blood.
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Fixed it for ya.
William Amos on June 21, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Good luck with that. If that even became a topic in either branch of Congress, the few Republicans would have zero chance of getting anything like that out of committee.
The blood bath, which will result from the 2012 elections, will be the only chance to remove the One from office. He’s in office not to be the President of the US, not to be the leader, not to govern, but to rule.
Since neither facts nor spin affect the One, He will only be “defeated” by the gun.
And his doctor complained this AM on TV that “nobody, nobody works for $22 hr”
Bolton is the Stash, Geraldo (the bum form Philly) is Hairado.
Friendly21 on June 21, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 11:01 AM
We have the new blood, we better learn to appreciate it.
I pray we don’t fall for the Colin Powell, Cindy McCain, brand of Republican.
fourdeucer on June 21, 2009 at 11:08 AM
;)
You are one of the fellas who helps keep us all informed. Keep linking, keep pointing, keep us in mind when you find those inconvenient facts floating round the information highway.
Limerick on June 21, 2009 at 11:11 AM
I knew that Bolton is the Stash, I was clarifying for someone but I didn’t know about Hairaldo and I like it very much.
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Fox is reporting that last night some group set fire to a mosque!
freeus on June 21, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Collin Powell will never happen, the only reason he is keeping the Republican tag is so that Mr. Obama can say he has bipartisan support. If he gets reelected (God forbid) then Mr. Powell will officially switch parties.
Who are you looking at as the new blood?
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 11:13 AM
Obama photo of the day
Took it from ace’s site
William Amos on June 21, 2009 at 11:14 AM
+1
Limerick on June 21, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Are you guys watching Fox? There seems to be more out on the streets today in this section and they are louder.
My Tehran Bureau Twitter is down. Still.
freeus on June 21, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Heh. Check this out.
IrishEi on June 21, 2009 at 11:18 AM
No guns… good luck.
Hurray for gun control!
mankai on June 21, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Obama has so lowered the bar in terms of required qualifications and experience for the Presidency. I mean, prior to obama, it wasn’t possible for an obama to win. So there’s no telling who the next raft of candidates might be. Sharpton can run again on the platform of “the second time is a charm.” On the Rep. side, lets hope it one of our several fine Governors.
JiangxiDad on June 21, 2009 at 11:20 AM
freeus
katy on June 21, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Dont doubt there is shooting in Iran
From CNN.
William Amos on June 21, 2009 at 11:20 AM
HA! Send that to Treacher
katy on June 21, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Is it just me, or are the youngster interviewed here in the U.S. saying they are FOR Mousavi and not for toppling the regime? I have seen three people interviewed on Fox who are saying their connections in Iran are not wanting the “government” to go, but they want their votes for Mousavi to be counted.
This clashes with the majority of what I am seeing coming out of Iran.
freeus on June 21, 2009 at 11:24 AM
Who are you looking at as the new blood?
Cindy Munford on June 21, 2009 at 11:13 AM
At this point I am all in for Sarah Palin.
fourdeucer on June 21, 2009 at 11:24 AM
It is the “look, don’t kick in my door tonight” defense. University educated logic will prevail over monsters.
Limerick on June 21, 2009 at 11:25 AM
katy on June 21, 2009 at 11:20 AM
Thanks. Just up here.
Happy Father’s Day to one and all!
freeus on June 21, 2009 at 11:26 AM
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