Chaos in Iran: I’m ready for martyrdom, says Mousavi; Videos: Woman murdered in cold blood; Update: Obama calls on regime to end violence; Update: Obama goes out for ice cream; Rumor: 150 dead? Report: Mousavi’s office sends letter to Obama?

posted at 9:23 am on June 20, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Today is widely considered the crucial day of the Iranian crisis, which erupted when the ruling mullahs of the Guardian Council made their vote-rigging too obvious for their subjects to ignore.  Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei warned Iranians yesterday that his patience was at an end with protests, but activists claimed that they would defy Khamenei and gather again in cities to protest the government and the election results.  Today, sketchy reports have hundreds of police blocking access to key areas, including the use of teargas, to keep protestors out:

Heavily armed police prevented several thousand Iranian protesters Saturday from entering Revolution Square — one of the main protest sites in Tehran, a witness told CNN.

About a mile away, police kept the crowd back by throwing two canisters of tear gas at their feet, the witness said.

The Web site of the main opposition candidate, Mir Hossein Moussavi, quoted news reports as saying a flood of people were headed to the capital from surrounding towns.

Thus far, we’ve seen attempts by the government to spread misinformation about the rallies, and confusion and hesitation among the organizers.  Protests today will almost certainly be an irrevocable act.  If the government doesn’t act with force to suppress the protests, the mullahs will lose all credibility and will have to run for their lives.  If they give the order to attack and the police don’t carry it out, they will have to run for their lives.  They know the stakes and the risk, but the alternatives for them are all bad; their backs are against the wall — but they still have all the guns, at least for now.

We’ll keep an eye on reports and update as the day goes along.  So far, it looks as though the confrontation will come.

Update (AP): Multiple Iranian twitterers are claiming there’s been some sort of explosion at Khomeini’s shrine, which they’re treating as the regime’s version of the Reichstag fire. There’s precedent for that in Iranian history, too.

Update (Ed): NBC’s Today has a good, if basic, report this morning:

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Update (AP): The Khaleej Times says the explosion at Khomeini’s shrine was caused by a suicide bomber. Hmmm.

Update (AP): Two mind-blowing videos for you. The second is familiar; it’s clearly taken at the same assault on the Basij complex that I wrote about earlier this week. Watch all the way through and you’ll see Iranian protesters actually fall after being shot. I don’t know where the first clip is from — it was uploaded by BBC Persia today but could also be from the Basij complex incident a few days ago — but it’s the closest thing I’ve seen yet to all-out war.

As I write this, Iranian twitterers are reporting use of water cannons, teargas, gunshots, and even some sort of burning agent being dropped on the crowds by helicopters. There’s still no confirmation as far as I know that a bomb really did go off at Khomeini’s shrine, but Reuters is now reporting that Mousavi supporters have set fire to a building being used by Ahmadinejad supporters. And now, suddenly, Mousavi is making some sort of statement where he says he’s prepared for martyrdom. Sounds like the gloves are finally all the way off.

Update (AP): Anecdotally, after following them all week, I can tell you that the tone of Iranian twitterers is strikingly different from what it’s been before. Some are openly asking people to pray for them. The fear is palpable.

Here’s a poignant video in Farsi with English subtitles that’s making the rounds today. The din you hear in the background is Tehranians screaming “Allahu Akbar” in defiance of Khamenei last night.

Update (AP): A comparatively calm but significant new clip: According to NIAC, protesters can be heard chanting “Marg bar Khamenei,” i.e. “Death to Khamanei.” It’s not about Ahmadinejad anymore.

Update (AP): If you’re unfamiliar with the cast of characters in Iran, Time’s primer is useful. Meanwhile, new video of what the streets look like in Tehran today. Note the end, where a few protesters display nightsticks they’ve seized from the Basij — to cheers from the crowd.

Update (AP): To see just how bad things have gotten, brace yourself and click here. Strong content warning.

Update (AP): Mousavi knows the regime can’t let him walk free forever and is calling for a strike if he’s detained. Who steps in if he’s jailed, I wonder. Karroubi? Rafsanjani, whom Khamenei would be loath to arrest lest it inflame the clerics?

Gosh, if only the U.S. had troops stationed in some neighboring country or countries so that we could start feeding weapons to the protesters.

Update (AP): Not sure if this is wise under the circumstances, but Israel’s minister for strategic affairs is now openly predicting a revolution — with no resulting change in Iran’s nuke program. Meanwhile, a provocative report from NIAC:

This morning a friend of NIAC who gets Iranian Satellite TV here said that state-run media showed President Obama speaking about Iran this morning. However, instead of translating what he actually said, the translator reportedly quoted Obama as saying he “supports the protesters against the government and they should keep protesting.

Assuming this report is correct, it shows the Iranian government is eager to portray Obama as a partisan supporting the demonstrators.

Update (AP): A HuffPo reader reports that the news about a bombing at Khomeini’s shrine appears to be yet another regime lie:

“I’m watching state TV here in Dubai and they just did a report on the bombing at the mausoleum. There was NO DAMAGE. All they showed was a broken window saying the “terrorists” luckily blew themselves up outside the building before doing any damage inside. The “bombing” was clearly a fraud as there was NO DAMAGE done to the mausoleum other than a broken window they showed at the entrance of the building. It clearly looked like there was NO BOMBING, no explosion fragments or blood shown just one shattered window. Also a correction to my previous e-mail. The program said the youths had been talking to “friends” in the U.K. and the U.S. on the phone about causing destruction in Iran rather than actually going to the U.S. and being trained. Important difference but the subtext is the same. They’re clearly building a case for foreign interference i.e. the U.K and U.S.”

Update (AP): Dear god. Here’s another extremely graphic video of the murder of the young woman I linked up above. NIAC translates the Facebook description as follows: “A young woman who was standing aside with her father watching the protests was shot by a basij member hiding on the rooftop of a civilian house. He had clear shot at the girl and could not miss her. However, he aimed straight her heart. I am a doctor, so I rushed to try to save her. But the impact of the gunshot was so fierce that the bullet had blasted inside the victim’s chest, and she died in less than 2 minutes.”

Update (AP): Another one that’s going viral shot at Shiraz University. Note at about 90 seconds in how the police trap women against the gate and break out the nightsticks. Click the image to watch.

Update (AP): Multiple reports on Twitter now that people are shouting from the rooftops — literally — at Khamenei and the regime.

Update (AP): Verrry interesting: Rooftop shouts now being heard in Mashad, the Shiites’ second holiest city. Proof that the clerics are coming around to the people’s side?

Update (AP): Another murder in Tehran. Skip ahead to 3:25 to see the latest victim of Iran’s “robust debate,” or watch from the beginning and you’ll find protesters picking up rocks and chanting “Marg bar dictator.”

Update (AP): A statement from the White House:

The Iranian government must understand that the world is watching. We mourn each and every innocent life that is lost. We call on the Iranian government to stop all violent and unjust actions against its own people. The universal rights to assembly and free speech must be respected, and the United States stands with all who seek to exercise those rights.

As I said in Cairo, suppressing ideas never succeeds in making them go away. The Iranian people will ultimately judge the actions of their own government. If the Iranian government seeks the respect of the international community, it must respect the dignity of its own people and govern through consent, not coercion.

Martin Luther King once said – “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” I believe that. The international community believes that. And right now, we are bearing witness to the Iranian peoples’ belief in that truth, and we will continue to bear witness.

Update (AP): An ominous rumor from Tehran Bureau: “good source: Hospital close to the scene in Tehran: 30-40 dead thus far as of 11pm and 200 injured. Police taking names of incoming injured.”

Update (AP): I linked the Facebook video of the young woman being murdered by the Basij earlier but it deserves wide dissemination so I’m giving you the embeddable LiveLeak version too. Forward the link around.

Update (AP): More Twitter reports trickling in about acid or some other sort of corrosive agent being dropped on protesters. And there’s a hot rumor that the Canadian embassy in Tehran has its gates closed to the injured, even as many other embassies have theirs opened. Can anyone confirm/deny?

Update (AP): It’s raining rocks on the streets of Tehran.

Update (AP): Reuel Marc Gerecht tries to answer the million-dollar question: Why would Khamenei risk his supreme authority to fix the election for a disposable goon like Ahmadinejad?

Khamenei, who worked with and struggled against Mousavi for a decade, knows the former prime minister politically as well as anyone. The supreme leader knows that what Mousavi lacks in charisma he has always made up in doggedness…

Khamenei acted so crudely and rashly on June 12 because he’d already seen this movie. What’s happening in Iran now is all about democracy, about the contradictory and chaotic bedfellows that it makes, about the questioning of authority and the personal curiosity that it unleashes. Khamenei knows what George H.W. Bush’s “realist” national security adviser Brent Scowcroft surely knows, too: Democracy in Iran implies regime change. Where Iranians in the 1990s could try to play games with themselves–be in favor of greater democracy but refrain from saying publicly that the current government was illegitimate–this fiction is no longer possible. Khamenei has forced Mousavi and, more important, the people behind him into opposition to himself and the political system he leads. Unless Mousavi gives up, and thereby deflates the millions who’ve gathered around him, a permanent opposition to Khamenei and his constitutionally ordained supremacy has now formed. Like it or not, Mousavi has become the new Khatami–except this time the opposition is stronger and led by a man of considerable intestinal fortitude.

I don’t get it. If Mousavi’s famous for his perseverance, the last thing you’d want to do is antagonize him and his youth movement by defrauding him. It’s practically begging for an uprising. The smart move would be to placate him by bringing him into the regime and then compromising with him on some basic reforms; that, at least, would keep the regime in place. It makes more sense to me to think that Khamenei feared opposing Ahmadinejad because he’s been such a generous patron to the Revolutionary Guard. If Mousavi won and Khamenei endorsed it, the Guard might stage a coup to protect the gravy train they’ve been riding for the past four years. That’s my theory and I’m sticking to it.

Update (AP): Have we already reached the point in the crackdown where negotiating with Iran is unthinkable? I know The One has his heart set on it, but the point’s going to come — if it hasn’t already — where the regime behaves so monstrously that he simply can’t afford a photo op with them. As a thought experiment, imagine that the tanks roll tomorrow and then Khamenei turns around on Monday and offers to give up the nuclear program in exchange for the lifting of all sanctions and full diplomatic recognition. Can Obama make that deal now, knowing that it would legitimize these monsters?

Update (AP): Uh oh: The latest Twitter rumor claims there’s a tank in Azadi Square.

Update (AP): CBS reporter Mark Knoller reports that the president decided today of all days would be a good time for a leisurely trip to the ice-cream parlor. Quoth Jim Treacher: “Imagine if Bush went on an ice cream run during something like this. He’d be ‘Worst Person in the World’ every day forever.” Any lefties care to dispute that, especially in light of the longstanding faux outrage over this clip?

Update (AP): The latest unverified/rumored death toll is 150. In other news, Obama ordered a small cup of vanilla.

Update (AP): If Gutfeld’s this pissed about the skateboarding photo op, wait until he hears about the ice cream trip.

Am I an old fart or am I right to be pissed that some jackass is skateboarding down the halls of the White House while all this Iranian shit is going down?…

Right now, people are risking their lives for the glimmer of freedom, and Tony Hawk is in the White House tweeting about Frosted Flakes.

Update (AP): I’m skeptical that Mousavi would send a letter to Obama without publicizing it, but for what it’s worth, Michael Ledeen says he’s got a copy. Excerpt:

In the name of the Iranian people, we want you to know that when you recently made the statement “Achmadinejad or Mousavi? Two of a kind,” we consider this as a grave and deep insult, not just to Mr. Mousavi but especially against the judgment of the Iranian people, against our moral conviction and intelligence, especially those of the young generation that comprises a population of 31 million.

It is a specially grave insult for those who are now fighting for democracy and freedom, and an unwarranted gift and even praise for Mr. Khamenei, whose security forces are now killing peaceful Iranians in the streets of every major city in the country.

Update (AP): If Iranian goons are willing to shoot women dead in the street, I guess it makes sense that they’re willing to drag the wounded from hospitals where they’re being treated. Note that communications from the notorious Evin prison have been cut off, too. I’ve got a nutty hunch that whatever’s going on inside is a bit worse than waterboarding.

Update (AP): CNN is airing YouTube vids of today’s brutality nonstop, which makes me think American public opinion of the regime will soon be so poisonous as to make diplomacy impossible. The One simply won’t be able to justify shaking these cretins’ bloody hands. If that’s so, it means negotiations are dead and a desperate Israeli attack on Iran’s nuclear sites is assured — unless the regime is overthrown. The stakes couldn’t be higher.

Update (AP): I keep waiting for news to break that Hamas or Hezbollah has attacked Israel, as Iran could use a distraction right now to appeal to the protesters’ sympathies. Maybe this week? Southern Iraq would be an even more attractive target, as it would embarrass the U.S. The fact that they haven’t done that may be among the best evidence yet of how weak their influence has become in that part of the country.

Update (AP): Just posted at Mousavi’s Facebook page, feast your eyes on Iranian police rushing a crowd of protesters, unsheathing the batons, and swinging for the fences. The chaos starts a little more than a minute in.

Update (AP): The sounds of terror: Screams in the night as the Basij break into people’s homes.

Update (AP): I’m skeptical, but supposedly this clip shows the good guys getting a measure of revenge by lighting a gas line … that leads straight into a Basij complex in eastern Tehran. Watch for the boom five seconds in.


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Maybe the one will have his comedy writers develope an updated statement of appeasement & rationalization now?

singlemalt_18 on June 20, 2009 at 9:28 AM

Interestingly, the only coverage Iranian TV is providing is:

1) Finally acknowledging that there are some protesters but that they are being “dispersed”.

2) Bomb blasts have gone off by Khomeini’s mausoleum

Regarding #2, smells like a Reichstag possibly.

Pianobuff on June 20, 2009 at 9:29 AM

Fox news just reported explosions in Tehran…

Skywise on June 20, 2009 at 9:29 AM

God bless the sons and daughters of Liberty today.

Pavel on June 20, 2009 at 9:30 AM

The median age in Iran is 25. The younger population will inevitably force the mullahs to move along. Not today. Not tomorrow. But it will come.

perroviejo on June 20, 2009 at 9:31 AM

JP…short statment of (bomb?) blast..

Limerick on June 20, 2009 at 9:32 AM

Being reported on #iranelections of shots being fired directly into the crowd now.

mimi1220 on June 20, 2009 at 9:33 AM

The statement of the bomb came from FARS so the Reichstag analogy is a possibility.

Limerick on June 20, 2009 at 9:34 AM

I pray for their safety. Let freedom ring!

grapeknutz on June 20, 2009 at 9:34 AM

A BBC correspondent at Enghelab Square said there was a huge security operation, including military police, anti-riot police and Basij militia.

Limerick on June 20, 2009 at 9:35 AM

God bless the sons and daughters of Liberty today.

Amen.

This is probably a bit early to be thinking about, but if the people of Iran choose freedom today, and topple thier tyrannical regime, what are the odds of people beginning to realize that George Bush had it exactly right?

Pablo on June 20, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Honestly, I wish there were a way to get arms to the protesters. That’s the only chance they have. Otherwise, they’re going to get slaughtered.

Even if they stop the protests now, the reprisals against the protesters in the coming days, as the goons knock doors down in the middle of the night and carry off opposition leaders, are going to be horrific. The people of Iran need to be able to defend themselves.

My support for the Second Amendment has evolved over the years. I was somewhat liberal as a youth, and while recognizing the need to enforce our Bill of Rights, didn’t have a problem with people wanting to pass laws to restrict gun ownership. As I got older, it was still theoretical, but I was much more supportive of gun rights for citizens. Now? It’s absolutely imperative. History shows time and again how a citizenry strips of its right to bear arms will lose all other rights eventually.

The 2nd Amendment may very well be the most important one in the Constitution–if only as the guarantor of the rest.

Now I just need to convince my wife (who’s still very much a child of the 60s in her heart) that we need to take appropriate action. I’m trying, I’m trying!

nukemhill on June 20, 2009 at 9:36 AM

But… Joe Klein and Obama told me that Khamenei was a moderate and they’re always right. We should totally talk about the regime’s nukes, especially since they have so much legitimacy and all.

Illinidiva on June 20, 2009 at 9:37 AM

nukemhill on June 20, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Good post. Glad you came to your senses on the 2nd Amendment. As I like to say, there is no 1st without the 2nd.

Disturb the Universe on June 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM

nukemhill on June 20, 2009 at 9:36 AM

The only way that peaceful protests work is if the people in charge have a sense of shame. MLK Jr. and the Equal Rights movement and Gandhi’s movement worked because the Americans and Brits are civilized people and were embarrassed by the press coverage.

Illinidiva on June 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Iran comes west looking for protestors

Iranian embassy camera watches protesters in London
Iran’s embassy in London has secretly filmed protesters who gathered outside to demand a recount of votes cast in last week elections.

William Amos on June 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM

The statement of the bomb came from FARS so the Reichstag analogy is a possibility.

Limerick on June 20, 2009 at 9:34 AM

Hmm… false flag attack?

Skywise on June 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM

This is probably a bit early to be thinking about, but if the people of Iran choose freedom today, and topple thier tyrannical regime, what are the odds of people beginning to realize that George Bush had it exactly right?

Pablo on June 20, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Of course he was right. If he was a Democrat, they call him one of the greatest presidents evah.

B Man on June 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Breaking news: Ochimpy apologizes for the depletion of Dinner Jackets tear gas supply. Palomino appropriates funds to supply them with unproven US missile systems.

csdeven on June 20, 2009 at 9:40 AM

The statement of the bomb came from FARS so the Reichstag analogy is a possibility.

Limerick on June 20, 2009 at 9:34 AM

I guess u saw on twitter that it’s the Imam Khomeini shrine that was bombed. That would correspond with the Reichstag theory.

JiangxiDad on June 20, 2009 at 9:41 AM

JiangxiDad on June 20, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Don’t know if that’s true, but was a tweet

JiangxiDad on June 20, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Hmm… false flag attack?

Skywise on June 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM

Well, wait till Iranian State TV starts reporting that the bomb was set by protesters/Moussavi-followers.

Pianobuff on June 20, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Oops, wrong thread.

The only hope the protesters have is in sheer numbers. Like waves to wash away the police and militia. This is going to be ugly but I hope it is successful and that they never regret the fight.

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 9:42 AM

This is probably a bit early to be thinking about, but if the people of Iran choose freedom today, and topple thier tyrannical regime, what are the odds of people beginning to realize that George Bush had it exactly right?

Pablo on June 20, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Odds somewhere south of zero… all credit will of course be given to Obama for his “measured response” by the State media.

hindmost on June 20, 2009 at 9:42 AM

We’re gonna get a speech from b-ho about how both sides have legitimate concerns and that we need to rise above bickering and partisanship.

I remember when Doonsebury depicted Dan Quayle as invisible. I wonder how b-ho should be drawn with his non-response to any world event. He’s like Oprah, he just tells us how he feels about something but takes no action.

Obama: “Talk softly and carry a big teleprompter.”

Mojave Mark on June 20, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Odds somewhere south of zero… all credit will of course be given to Obama for his “measured response” by the State media.

hindmost on June 20, 2009 at 9:42 AM

Not too mention his immaculate sense of timing. Not too soon… not too late. Just right.

Pianobuff on June 20, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Pablo on June 20, 2009 at 9:35 AM

Those that suppoerted Bush already knew he was right. The other sheeple will attach the Won’s speech in Cairo and give him credit. If it wasn’t for the brave people in Iran seeking liberty then it would be fun to watch this thing play out. All we can do now is pray for them because they’re obviously not going to get any support from our side (other than the citizens who support them)

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 9:44 AM

As Obama finally said, he only supports the peaceful protestors.

I however, support any action needed to take down the mullahs.

myrenovations on June 20, 2009 at 9:46 AM

I’m in the centre of Tehran close to Enghelab Square where the demonstration was supposed to have been held. But there’s a huge security presence here, thousands of men from every possible service: police, revolutionary guard, military police, the riot police in full riot gear, and the much-feared Basij – religious paramilitaries who see themselves as the shock troops of the Islamic revolution.

It’s impossible for any groups of people to get through these to Enghelab Square and hold their demonstration.

If this continues and the opposition can’t find some way around fierce security then the protests against the results of the presidential election will have been defeated.

BBC (anonymous coorespondent in Tehran)

Limerick on June 20, 2009 at 9:46 AM

nukemhill on June 20, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Take her to a gun range and let her shoot. My daughter when from not wanting to touch a gun to enjoying. The Second Amendment is they key to our securing.

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 9:46 AM

I wonder which side Obama would support if he could do so without any reprisals?

Capitalist Infidel on June 20, 2009 at 9:47 AM

I wonder which side Obama would support if he could do so without any reprisals?

The side that will put the most pressure on Israel.

JiangxiDad on June 20, 2009 at 9:48 AM

I am sure that Obama realizes the seriousness of the consequences of the uprisings in Iran could bring.

This could divert the cameras away from him for a day, possibly more.

He knows he must do something, or his ego could be the victim.

cntrlfrk on June 20, 2009 at 9:48 AM

This is probably a bit early to be thinking about, but if the people of Iran choose freedom today, and topple their tyrannical regime, what are the odds of people beginning to realize that George Bush had it exactly right?

Pablo on June 20, 2009 at 9:35 AM

This is a good point to consider…

I have to wonder if this angle is on the minds of Liberals throughout America; Heaven forbid that GW Bush had is right all along… Leading Democrats, the entire MSM, and leftist bloggers, Hollywood, all 100% completely wrong about the long term solution for peace in the Middle East…

Keemo on June 20, 2009 at 9:48 AM

…but they still have all the guns, at least for now

There’s the key quote from this piece as far as I’m concerned.

Wine_N_Dine on June 20, 2009 at 9:49 AM

They said that a crowd of 3,000 chanted “Death to the dictator!” and “Death to dictatorship!” near Revolution Square in central Teheran before police used the tear gas and cannon.

JP

Only 3000?……has the regime won?

Limerick on June 20, 2009 at 9:49 AM

If/when the protests are violently crushed I hope some reporter has the stones to ask The One if he’s still intends to meet with Iranian leaders w/out preconditions.

PackerBronco on June 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM

The Mullahs are not the only ones who don’t want the Iranian
people to have the Freedoms of free speech.
You know the liberals don’t want this getting out:

(via gatewaypundit)

Iranian Protest Signs Warn Regime: “Do Not Forget What Happened to Saddam”
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/06/iranian-protesters-warn-regime-do-not.html

It looks like the situation in Iraq is playing a part in this revolution…
Iranian democracy protesters on Thursday carried signs warning the evil regime, “Do not forget what happened to Saddam Hussein!”

It can’t be that a genocidal dictator being taken down allowing the people of Iraq to work towards the same Freedoms many of us enjoy is helping fuel this revolution.
It has got to be Obama and his policies of capitulation and
self adoration according to the “smart ones”.

Libya giving up it’s nuclear/WMD arsenal.
Afghanistan/Pakistan rejecting the radical elements of the Taliban and al-qaeda.
Iraq a free country.
Lebanon rejecting Syria/Hezbollah.
Iran rejecting the oppression of the Mullah’s.

According to the liberals,the War on Terror has nothing to do with any of this.
It is all because Obama speaks so well.

God help the people of Iran in their quest for Freedom because we know the President of the United States won’t.

Baxter Greene on June 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM

So far, the State’s tactics are working. They are managing to keep the crowds small, blocked all cell phones in the square, and are using teargas to push back people from gathering.

I agree with your editorial. My take was that they had to succeed today or face being ousted.

AnninCA on June 20, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Mojave Mark on June 20, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Please, get that man out of my house. Doonsebury should depict him as overflowing the panel to the point where it is like something pushed up against a too small glass.

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Huffpo. Obama is right to ignore the Iranian protestors because of what America did in 1953

The left really misrepresents history all the time. The choice was between the Shah and a communist dictatorship. There was nothing similar to todays situation.

William Amos on June 20, 2009 at 9:53 AM

I wonder which side Obama would support if he could do so without any reprisals?

Capitalist Infidel on June 20, 2009 at 9:47 AM

I do not say this flippantly, Obama supports the mullahs because he wants to sit down without preconditions and negotiate with them.

It won’t matter that nothing good will come from it, but he will be hailed by the media and the lefties for using diplomacy with thoecrats. It will “prove” their theory that there is never any reason for war.

If the dissidents drive the mullahs away Iran will be a whole different matter. Obama will not get an immediate summit. If/when he finally gets one, he’s probably not going to be sitting down with some “death to the great satan” type, teaching them to sing “O-bam-ya”. Anything good that comes from that summit will be credited to the new air in Iran, not Obama and his ego cannot take that.

Plus, if the dissidents win, Bush was right for the past 8 years. Lefties don’t want to see that acknowledged.

myrenovations on June 20, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Hey, anybody know if the one-who-must-be-obeyed has a tee time set up for today?

BPD on June 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM

William Amos on June 20, 2009 at 9:53 AM

LOL…ahhhhhhhh, the left. Screw the people because we did something of a no-no fifty six years ago.

Limerick on June 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Iran attacks Evil Empire for causing trouble

Oddly it isnt Israel or the US.

William Amos on June 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM

Iranian Protest Signs Warn Regime: “Do Not Forget What Happened to Saddam”
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/06/iranian-protesters-warn-regime-do-not.html

It looks like the situation in Iraq is playing a part in this revolution…

Baxter Greene on June 20, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Obama’s response is to stick his finger in the air to test the wind before speaking. His moral cowardice is repulsive and obscene.

petefrt on June 20, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Leading Democrats, the entire MSM, and leftist bloggers, Hollywood, all 100% completely wrong about the long term solution for peace in the Middle East

Only and idiot would think that appeasing the dictatorships of the ME would help the Isreal peace process. Strenth has been the only think keeping these nut jobs in check. History shows that any indecision or hestitation on our part is basically a “go ahead” to further their agenda.

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 9:57 AM

the 2nd Amendment is the ONLY thing that prevents an Iranian-style Police State being enforced here.

When the people are totally disarmed they have NO recourse!

Justrand on June 20, 2009 at 9:57 AM

William Amos on June 20, 2009 at 9:53 AM

Regardless of anything that happen in the past, how do you not do what you think is right now? The Left is paralyzed by what the neighbors will say, I wish it were true of their mouths.

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Plus, if the dissidents win, Bush was right for the past 8 years. Lefties don’t want to see that acknowledged.

myrenovations on June 20, 2009 at 9:54 AM

Bingo.

petefrt on June 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Elsewhere the Guardian Council has issued a statement that they will recount 10% of the vote.

Limerick on June 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 9:57 AM

I accepted long ago that I will never get neither honesty or consistancy from anyone on the left.

William Amos on June 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Some tweets are coming out claiming that State TV had cameras set up around the Khomeini shrine and reported the story before the bomb(s?) even went off.

Pianobuff on June 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Sorry, but I don’t think our current fearless leader cares about Israel, not matter what he says in public.

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 10:00 AM

Pianobuff on June 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM

They(FARS) must be getting coached by Reuters.

Limerick on June 20, 2009 at 10:01 AM

no matter what happens today in tehran, the protesters have made gains. and friends worldwide. the mullahs will be forced to crack down harder on dissidents which will breed even more discontent. the seeds are sown.

kelley in virginia on June 20, 2009 at 10:01 AM

William Amos on June 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM

It’s just the irony of it all. And maddening that it appears to be invisible to a large part of the world.

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 10:01 AM

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Only an idiot…

You just described a Liberal to perfection my friend!

Keemo on June 20, 2009 at 10:02 AM

State TV now is announcing that Moussavi will be held responsible for any bad stuff today.

Pianobuff on June 20, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Elsewhere the Guardian Council has issued a statement that they will recount 10% of the vote.

Well, it’s obvious that this has moved beyond the original protest reasons.

It’s now sort of a fluid protest about the regime’s repressive policies. What I can’t picture is how this is going to change, since allowing the people internet, etc., and ignoring the official rule about no dish TVs, etc., has actually fueled this movement.

AnninCA on June 20, 2009 at 10:02 AM

State TV had cameras set up around the Khomeini shrine and reported the story before the bomb(s?) even went off.

Pianobuff on June 20, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Emanuel/Axelrod would be proud.

petefrt on June 20, 2009 at 10:02 AM

Oddly it isnt Israel or the US.

William Amos on June 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM

The BBC may be the reason. They’ve tried to cover this.

Also, Barry hearts Andy. Also, who in Iran falls for the old Israel canard anymore?

JiangxiDad on June 20, 2009 at 10:03 AM

Justrand on June 20, 2009 at 9:57 AM

A voice from the good ol’ days of CQ…

Good to see you here voicing your opinions with us once again.

Keemo on June 20, 2009 at 10:03 AM

the seeds are sown.

kelley in virginia on June 20, 2009 at 10:01 AM

Yes they are! Not even the bamster can stop this seed from growing!

Keemo on June 20, 2009 at 10:05 AM

Two Iranian news agencies reported that the suicide bomber died and two people were injured in the bombing near the shrine of Ayatollah Khomeini, leader of the 1979 revolution.

There was no evidence to support the report, the BBC’s Jon Leyne says from Tehran

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Limerick on June 20, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Hmmmmmmmmm

TEHRAN – A suicide bomber blew himself up at the Tehran mausoleum of Iranian revolutionary leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini on Saturday, killing himself and wounding a pilgrim, a police official told the Mehr news agency

William Amos on June 20, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Pianobuff on June 20, 2009 at 10:02 AM

It’s bigger then him, the Mullahs don’t understand that this isn’t about a specific person. I hope that ignorance leads to their downfall.

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 10:08 AM

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 10:00 AM

You are so right! Israel has nothing that can feed his quest fot World Supreme Leader

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 10:10 AM

William Amos on June 20, 2009 at 9:53 AM

The idea that the CIA and the US was behind Mossadeq’s flame out in 1953 has been debunked by serious scholars. Typical leftist lies.

PimFortuynsGhost on June 20, 2009 at 10:10 AM

So far I give Al Jazeera a clear win over CNN on critical reporting. Sheesh.

Pianobuff on June 20, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Limerick on June 20, 2009 at 10:06 AM

I am not sure that repeating the tactics of terrorists are a great idea but I guess you have to use what you can use.

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Suicide bomber? Sounds like a word used in hopes of quelling the entusiasim of dissident supporters in the west.

myrenovations on June 20, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Cindy….sorry wrong button. I would never strike you lol.

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Bibi, what’s up? A penny for your thoughts.

petefrt on June 20, 2009 at 10:14 AM

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 10:10 AM

I am pretty sure he considers them a stumbling block to his greatness. He will be shocked when they are attacked. In reality I think he will be even more shocked when they retaliate.

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 10:14 AM

History shows time and again how a citizenry strips of its right to bear arms will lose all other rights eventually.

The 2nd Amendment may very well be the most important one in the Constitution–if only as the guarantor of the rest.

nukemhill on June 20, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Excellent Post – Freedom of speech and the Right to Keep and Bear Arms – the basic civil right of self defense are – are the bedrock of our republic

Juno77 on June 20, 2009 at 10:14 AM

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Please, if you knew how many times I do the exact same thing, don’t sweat the small stuff.

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 10:15 AM

Bibi, what’s up? A penny for your thoughts.

petefrt on June 20, 2009 at 10:14 AM

What if Israel seized this moment to strike Iran’s nuclear sites?

Disturb the Universe on June 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Maybe Obama can wriggle away from ABC long enough to give another speech stating America really doesn’t care how this turns out.

That should inspire the freedom seekers!

cntrlfrk on June 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM

petefrt on June 20, 2009 at 10:14 AM

I was thinking this would be the perfect time to take out a nuclear site (if they know where they are and I bet they do). Tough decisions, wouldn’t want to make any mistakes that liberals will whine about for the next hundred years.

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Great minds think alike.

Disturb the Universe on June 20, 2009 at 10:18 AM

We should be taking notes on how to have a peaceful revolution. I give the Iranians credit at least they have the balls to take to the streets! Unlike the wussy moral majority hypocrites. You all site the constitution around here at the drop of an earmark but sit on you asses behind a computer as if that will bring about change. Your country is being taken from you right before your eyes and you sit ther like its a video game! Bunch a A-Holes it you ask me!

sonnyspats1 on June 20, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Barrack to Rahm….

Just how did they go about shutting down the news agencies. Can we do that? Start with Fox. Leave tweeter, but se if we can block overseas tweets. This is giving me a headache.

HoustonRight on June 20, 2009 at 10:20 AM

sonnyspats1 on June 20, 2009 at 10:20 AM

And you’re doing what exactly?

Disturb the Universe on June 20, 2009 at 10:21 AM

This is going to be bad. For how many days have these protesters literally put their lives at risk against the Mullahs. There will be a gradual escalation of hostilities between those who want a freer Iran versus the oppressive theocratic organization that is the governing Iran regime authority lead by Ali Khamenei. It takes a lot of courage to do what these protesters are doing. A part of me wishes them success by seizing this moment but another part tells me that if they continue there will be a slaughter of umpteem peoples there. Freedom is not free, and we are witnessing history up close yet far removed from Iran as there efforts unfold on this day. If this is not being considered a purging and cleasing of Iranian dissidents then nothing else will it be called.

Americannodash on June 20, 2009 at 10:22 AM

Tough decisions, wouldn’t want to make any mistakes that liberals will whine about for the next hundred years.

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Eh, the libs will whine regardless; it’s what they do.

Disturb the Universe on June 20, 2009 at 10:23 AM

Disturb the Universe on June 20, 2009 at 10:18 AM

We should be in charge! /

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Disturb the Universe on June 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM

I’m thinking he wouldn’t want to polarize the students by attacking, so maybe he would simultaneously support them somehow. Maybe he could arrange to supply them with small arms for their defense? Do the students hate Israel like the mullahs… so much that they wouldn’t accept its support?

petefrt on June 20, 2009 at 10:24 AM

Do the students hate Israel like the mullahs… so much that they wouldn’t accept its support?

petefrt on June 20, 2009 at 10:24 AM

I’ve read they are not as anti-Israel as most of the region.

Disturb the Universe on June 20, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Bibi, what’s up? A penny for your thoughts.

petefrt on June 20, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Not sure he’s an observant Jew, but I bet this got him wondering. Obama betrays Israel, and deus ex machina, revolution begins in Iran. Shazaam!

JiangxiDad on June 20, 2009 at 10:26 AM

Do the students hate Israel like the mullahs… so much that they wouldn’t accept its support?

petefrt on June 20, 2009 at 10:24 AM

When accepting aid, it may be less about hate and more about trust. I don’t know if people steeped in Muslim culture can trust Israel.

myrenovations on June 20, 2009 at 10:27 AM

I’ve read they are not as anti-Israel as most of the region.

Disturb the Universe on June 20, 2009 at 10:26 AM

That’s what I understand too.

petefrt on June 20, 2009 at 10:28 AM

sonnyspats1 on June 20, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Wow, great statement. Calling commenters a$$holes for posting on a blog while posting on a blog. Irony alert. Lead us, O Great One.

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 10:29 AM

That’s what I understand too.

petefrt on June 20, 2009 at 10:28 AM

Iranians aren’t Arabs of course, they’re Persians. No love lost. And Iran uses the Palis and the Israel struggle to further Shi’a aims in a Sunni world. Iran doesn’t fundamentally care about Israel or Palis imo.

JiangxiDad on June 20, 2009 at 10:30 AM

sonnyspats1 on June 20, 2009 at 10:20 AM

As much as I don’t like the tone of your statement, there is some truth to what you say… In the end, we usually get things right. Obama-Pelosi-Reid will go down in history as their actions dictate.

I must believe that justice will prevail in the end. That the Democrat Party will suffer for decades for this assault on our Democracy; that the Government Controlled Media will soon meet with destiny; that Hollywood-TV-Cable will be completely remade and will stay out of politics for a generation or so, or meet the same destiny as that of the media.

Keemo on June 20, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Now I just need to convince my wife (who’s still very much a child of the 60s in her heart) that we need to take appropriate action. I’m trying, I’m trying!

nukemhill on June 20, 2009 at 9:36 AM

Just my personal opinion: it’s your decision time.

You must decide who will have the ultimate responsibility for your family’s protection and your personal freedoms, if that should become necessary.

Act now on your decision while it is still relatively easy. Beyond the constrictions that may evolve by control efforts, made by the present administration, the choice of firearms and ammo is being affected by simple record demand at this time. That situation is not expected to improve anytime soon.

Yoop on June 20, 2009 at 10:31 AM

petefrt on June 20, 2009 at 10:24 AM

I know, they don’t want to get a nationalism vibe going. I was just going with a selfish angle.

Cindy Munford on June 20, 2009 at 10:31 AM

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