Tomorrow: Tiananmen in Tehran? Report: Khamenei issues ultimatum to Mousavi; Update: Mousavi says no?

posted at 5:27 pm on June 18, 2009 by Allahpundit

First came the Debkafile rumor, then Michael Ledeen started hearing things, now Tehran Bureau has this ominous update. Sounds like Khamenei’s getting ready to call out the Guard.

From source: “I have now received e-mails from totally trustworthy sources within Iran that many Sepaah commanders [Sepaah is IRGC] have been arrested, because they are opposed to what is going on and in particular to the plan for tomorrow.

“This had been talked about for the past few days, but my source confirmed it.” end quote

Clarification for plans for tomorrow: “Apparently, the plan is to create chaos and bloody confrontation between Basij and Karroubi and Mousavi demonstrators, in order to justify hard crack down and have Khamenei announce the end of “soft” confrontation in the Friday prayers.”

Related rumor here. There’s corroborating evidence (albeit anecdotal) that some Guard members might refuse to participate in a crackdown, too, thereby necessitating the sort of purge described by TB. From the LA Times, via Michael Totten:

Perhaps more perilous for authorities is the possibility that some soldiers, security officials and Revolutionary Guardsmen might refuse orders to fire on protesters, creating a dangerous rift within the security apparatuses.

“I would never do it,” said Hossein, a 23-year-old member of the security forces who said he and many of his friends at the military base where he serves support the marchers. “Maybe someone would, but I would never fire on any of these people myself.”

Khamenei’s conducting the prayers tomorrow at Tehran University, where five students were reportedly killed in a Basij brownshirt assault on the dorms. Is that meant as a gesture of provocation or reconciliation? Maybe both: Presumably he’ll start off by paying lip service to what a tragedy it is that kids have died, then none-too-subtly warn that more people will inevitably die in the “confusion” if they don’t get off the streets post haste. Three things I can’t figure out, though. (1) If Khamenei’s preparing for a bloodletting, why would he want his face out in public at Friday prayers before it begins? All that does is drive home the fact that he’s complicit in it. (2) The Guardian Council’s still supposed to meet with all four presidential candidates on Saturday to talk about the vote. Is a crackdown tomorrow meant to keep that from happening or is the crackdown actually set for Saturday, after the meeting, which is bound to prove unsatisfactory to Mousavi? (3) If it’s true, and it probably is, that Rafsanjani is rounding up support from top mullahs in Qom for him and Mousavi, why haven’t we heard anything from them yet? Surely they’d want to come out in favor of the protesters before a crackdown begins, to throw the full weight of their authority against the Guard in hopes that they’ll back down in fear of damnation. As it is, if the last thing Iranians see before a Tehran Tiananmen is launched is Khamenei intoning about religion at Friday prayers, they’re apt to target the whole clerical system for reprisals. Good news for the west, not so good if you’re a mullah. Might want to speak up while you can.

Two vids from today’s monster rally as you ponder, one from CNN calling this possibly the largest protest in the history of the Islamic Republic and the other raw video of Mousavi’s appearance among the ecstatic crowd.


Update: Yep, sounds like tomorrow’s the moment of truth.

The moderate Iranian leader who says that he was robbed of victory in last week’s presidential election faces a fateful choice today: support the regime or be cast out.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s Supreme Leader, has told Mir Hossein Mousavi to stand beside him as he uses Friday prayers at Tehran University to call for national unity. An army of Basiji — Islamic volunteer militiamen — is also expected to be bussed in to support the Supreme Leader.

The demand was made at a meeting this week with representatives of all three candidates who claim that the poll was rigged, and it puts Mr Mousavi on the spot…

It was unclear last night what he would do or even whether the protests would die away if he backed down.

Update: The Standard notes that Mousavi’s Twitter feed has a message out urging supporters not to go to prayers tomorrow, which presumably means he won’t be there either. In the unlikely event that they take his advice, that’ll reduce the odds of confrontation. But if he boycotts the event too, it’s a direct slap at Khamenei’s authority. Which means this isn’t Mousavi versus Ahmadinejad anymore, it’s Mousavi versus the whole regime.


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Obama will be watching from the new flat screen TV…

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 5:31 PM

If this gets worse, Obama may have to upgrade from “deeply” troubled to “gravely” troubled.

TheQuestion on June 18, 2009 at 5:31 PM

GULP.

homesickamerican on June 18, 2009 at 5:31 PM

If this gets worse, Obama may have to upgrade from “deeply” troubled to “gravely” troubled.

TheQuestion on June 18, 2009 at 5:31 PM

I’m thinking that he’ll add a word to the dictionary. deepravely

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 5:32 PM

pretense to 2012 vote in the USSA

gatorboy on June 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM

Tic-toc is right. It’s a bit after midnight in Tehran. About the time ghouls usually start their roundups. Just ask Poland, Hungary and the old Czech Republic.

Limerick on June 18, 2009 at 5:35 PM

The reason Obama will not take a stand for the protesters in Iran is because he can see the future and the future is American citizens protesting in the streets of the United States.

mobydutch on June 18, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Obama’s delay in taking a stand only shows how deeply deliberative he is.

/sarc

pfamis on June 18, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Obama won’t say anything. He’s still playing both sides of the street. Not hard to do when you’re also good at talking out of both sides of your mouth. Let’s face it, we’ve got a ‘community organizer’, not a LEADER.

GarandFan on June 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM

I’ve got $5 on Obama saying “greatly pained”.

myrenovations on June 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM

I’ve got $5 on Obama saying “greatly pained”.

myrenovations on June 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM

You’re on. I’m taking ‘grealy disappointed’.

Limerick on June 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM

I hate our POS President. I just hate him…nothing to say in defense of these students…he might as well come right out and say he approves of what’s happening.

As it is, if the last thing Iranians see before a Tehran Tiananmen is launched is Khamenei intoning about religion at Friday prayers, they’re apt to target the whole clerical system for reprisals. Good news for the west, not so good if you’re a mullah. Might want to speak up while you can.

If only they would target the cleric…

ladyingray on June 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM

Bambi Obama is stuck in headlights. If only his Teleprompter knew what to do.

Geochelone on June 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM

Hope it ends better than 1989…

juanito on June 18, 2009 at 5:38 PM

You’re on. I’m taking ‘grealy disappointed’.

Limerick on June 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM

I’ve got $5 on Obama saying “greatly pained”.

myrenovations on June 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM

“greatly troubled”

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 5:39 PM

First, I think it’s absolutely awesome we live in a time when even a government crackdown on media reports doesn’t stop video and news from getting out all over the world in an instant.

And remember, the Iranians who vid these protests and such are doing so with their own freedom (and lives) in danger, as it’s just a tad illegal at the moment.

But yeah, who didn’t know this would be coming if the protests stayed large? Figure, the ChiComs got away…literally…with murder. Why not the Iranians? Heck, a few more years and they can host the Olympics too!

JetBoy on June 18, 2009 at 5:40 PM

I’ve got $5 on Obama saying “greatly pained”.

myrenovations on June 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM

I’ve got $1,000 on Obama saying “uh.”

Daggett on June 18, 2009 at 5:40 PM

I’ve got $1,000 on Obama saying “uh.”

Daggett on June 18, 2009 at 5:40 PM

LOL

Theworldisnotenough on June 18, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Hillary Clinton is the most USELESS POS SOS in history. Dodging sniper fire she trips over her own shadow and breaks an elbow while Millions in Iran are suffering.

BTW, how can anyone fall down when their center of gravity is in their cankles. What a figgin load.

Geochelone on June 18, 2009 at 5:42 PM

Am I the only one that thinks the reporter is gorgeous?

Theworldisnotenough on June 18, 2009 at 5:43 PM

Khamenei’s conducting the prayers tomorrow at Tehran University, where five students were reportedly killed in a Basij brownshirt assault on the dorms.

Why don’t the students kick his derriere when he comes to their campus. They’ve lost at least 5 of their fellow students.

youngO on June 18, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Why does the Update worry me more then the actual “Deed” of what is going to happen tomorrow.

upinak on June 18, 2009 at 5:44 PM

I hope this doesn’t turn into another tiananmen square. I hope they take the peaceful tract out of this, because no one should die for government corruption. But I wonder, if that happens, how many people will die for their cause.

therightscoop on June 18, 2009 at 5:44 PM

Rahm is on the hotline to North Korea right now, begging Kim to launch that missile toward Hawaii a few weeks early, as in tonight; have to get the focus off of Iran.

Bishop on June 18, 2009 at 5:44 PM

I’ve got $1,000 on Obama saying “uh.”

Daggett on June 18, 2009 at 5:40 PM

uh or um?

upinak on June 18, 2009 at 5:44 PM

I have it on good authority that Obama will kill a spider with his bare hands tomorrow.

faraway on June 18, 2009 at 5:45 PM

ladyingray on June 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM

That is because Ogabe does support the clerics and the Basij. He’s taking pointers for that “civilian corps that will be as strong as the military.” I’m beginning to think the Basij is ACORN’s Persian branch.

PimFortuynsGhost on June 18, 2009 at 5:46 PM

I’ve got $1,000 on Obama saying “uh.”

Daggett on June 18, 2009 at 5:40 PM

Awesome.

But it doesn’t count if it’s just the usually “uh” that comes at the start of his sentences and in between each word of his sentences.

myrenovations on June 18, 2009 at 5:47 PM

Hillary’s racing to Teheran now with a RESET button in Farsi.

Cicero43 on June 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM

The lesson here is having an armed citizenry.The Iranian protesters are for the most part unarmed.Remember this…….

sandee on June 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Obama issues statement “Look,….Uh,…I support, uh, this is, uh, uh, seriously becoming an issue.”

enoughalready on June 18, 2009 at 5:50 PM

Obama’s delay in taking a stand only shows how deeply deliberative he is.

/sarc

pfamis on June 18, 2009 at 5:35 PM

On a comparatively trivial matter soon after Obama took office, when asked why it took him three days to answer a reporter’s question he dryly told everyone that he likes to know what he’s talking about before he says anything. Well, it’s been days on end. Obama is OBVIOUSLY waiting the entire episode out, “present” as an observer, HOPING that Khameini and Ahmadinejad keep a tight rein on the Iranian people.

maverick muse on June 18, 2009 at 5:51 PM

If this gets worse, Obama may have to upgrade from “deeply” troubled to “gravely” troubled.

TheQuestion on June 18, 2009 at 5:31 PM

It’s still too early for “grievously vexed.”

Cicero43 on June 18, 2009 at 5:51 PM

If Khameni has the RG put this down, he really does have no understanding of his people. Shiite Islam (and Islam in general) likes martyrs and martyrdom a whole lot more than the Chinese. That’s basically how the whole Iranian Revolution started in the first place with days of mourning rallies. Mousavi and Rasfanjani are basically taking their tactics straight from 1979. This basically ends any legitimacy in the Iranian system… either Iran becomes of full military dictatorship with no illusory freedoms or legitimacy or Khatami and Dinner Coat go bye-bye.

As a side note, it is interesting about how someone can be transformed into a symbol. The crowds are cheering for Mousavi the symbol, not Mousavi the conservative, establishment politician. That being said it can not be underscored enough that what Mousavi is doing is incredibly brave. There’s no nice compromise ending especially if shooting starts.

Illinidiva on June 18, 2009 at 5:51 PM

“greatly troubled”

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 5:39 PM

“Raises serious concerns…”

As opposed to humorous concerns.

JohnGalt23 on June 18, 2009 at 5:51 PM

It makes me weep that we are doing nothing.

It also makes me grateful for our system, where we vote for the person who will do the last harm, and then work to vote him out in four years.

PattyJ on June 18, 2009 at 5:51 PM

Obama may be forced to send a strongly worded letter.

sandee on June 18, 2009 at 5:52 PM

The second video is very distressing. Everything I’ve read points to Mousavi being a different brand of tyrant, but a tyrant nonetheless. If another strongman emerges as the victor of this struggle, Liberty will continue to be a victim in Iran. Why do bullied people turn to bullies for help?

Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 5:52 PM

mobydutch on June 18, 2009 at 5:35 PM

Youbetcha. The elites must be freaking out or maybe they’re just clueless…

dogsoldier on June 18, 2009 at 5:52 PM

Hillary’s racing to Teheran now with a RESET button in Farsi.

Cicero43 on June 18, 2009 at 5:49 PM

Allah knows how it really translates back into English. “Up yours”

maverick muse on June 18, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 5:39 PM

I say he talks about himself for a few minutes.

lorien1973 on June 18, 2009 at 5:53 PM

I donlt think there will be a massacre. Iranians of all stripes recall that in last days of the Shah it was the murder of civilians that galvanized the public against the Shah. Martyrs hold a special place in the Iranian psyche and the evidence of was in full display today on the streets of Tehran.

lexhamfox on June 18, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Why do bullied people turn to bullies for help?

Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 5:52 PM

Strength. Image.

maverick muse on June 18, 2009 at 5:54 PM

Dear Allahpundit: Thank you again for all you have been doing on the Iran crisis. I believe you provide better highlights and summaries, and ask harder questions than any of the major news outlets on the internet.

Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 5:55 PM

The adults are in charge.

Kiss, kiss.

Love. getalife.

Del Dolemonte on June 18, 2009 at 5:55 PM

Khamenei’s Friday pray speech transcript:

We won! (Nod to crowd. Turn back on crowd and walk off stage. Guard initiates harsh crack down.)

WashJeff on June 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM

I say he talks about himself for a few minutes.

lorien1973 on June 18, 2009 at 5:53 PM

Why the hurry? The world needs to know how unique he is.

the_nile on June 18, 2009 at 5:57 PM

“Raises serious concerns…”

As opposed to humorous concerns.

JohnGalt23 on June 18, 2009 at 5:51 PM

My team of advisers and I have uh been monitoring this grave situation from Secretary of State Clinton’s iPhone. Uh… The United States does not wish to uh meddle in the affairs of uh… sovereign nations that uh have given us the plow. Of course I am personally rattled every time I hear Fox News has posted another murdered protester video.

*middle finger moves to cheek*

Now, as uh you may know, we will be in the region uh forcing Israel to completely give up Tel Aviv. We will continue monitoring the situation in Iran, but we will use constraint so as not to interfere.

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM

The second video is very distressing. Everything I’ve read points to Mousavi being a different brand of tyrant, but a tyrant nonetheless. If another strongman emerges as the victor of this struggle, Liberty will continue to be a victim in Iran. Why do bullied people turn to bullies for help?

Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 5:52 PM

He is an establishment guy which is how he got on the ballot in the first place, but he is doing some very risky things now which has to be in his favor. Mousavi is either going to end up “martyred” or executed by the regime or he’s going to end up toppling him. In all likelihood, Khatami will kill his wife and children as well. If he wasn’t standing up for some sort of ideals and just wanted power, then it would be easy enough for him to go back into retirement.

That being said it is pretty wise to be wary of Mousavi. Yeltsin didn’t turn out to be a great democratic reformer.

Illinidiva on June 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM

lexhamfox on June 18, 2009 at 5:53 PM

I would that you’re right.

But twisted power mongers like Khameini and Ahmadinejad DON’T go down without pulling out all the stops.

They’ve meant all along to solidify more oppression over the people than they already have. And they never shy away from torturing their opposition.

Khameini is putting his foot down and woe be unto any who are within his grip.

maverick muse on June 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Khamenei’s Friday pray speech transcript:

We won! (Nod to crowd. Turn back on crowd and walk off stage. Guard initiates harsh crack down.)

WashJeff on June 18, 2009 at 5:56 PM

Holding the head of a student “I’ll trump you on this , I won”.

the_nile on June 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM

I say he talks about himself for a few minutes.

lorien1973 on June 18, 2009 at 5:53 PM

You know, uh… when I was a child, my grandparents and I uh took a trip across the US. I uh am sure that the great fields of Kansas are very similar to those in uh Iiiran.

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM

At this point I think it’s bigger than Mousavi. The people will not let him become another tyrant; that is clear. Anyway, he was out of public life for 20 years. What is his mindset now?

PattyJ on June 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Obama is going to give an interview tomorrow tackling the vexing problem of Fox News picking on his administation.

Seriously though, I hope the Iranian people can brave this storm.

BakerAllie on June 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM

Why the hurry? The world needs to know how unique he is.

the_nile on June 18, 2009 at 5:57 PM

But ha catches flies so magnificently!

sonnyspats1 on June 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM

he*

sonnyspats1 on June 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM

I thought Obama’s fly swatting settled all this.

portlandon on June 18, 2009 at 6:01 PM

Holding the head of a student “I’ll trump you on this , I won”.

the_nile on June 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM

I forgot to add “Obama Akbar!”

WashJeff on June 18, 2009 at 6:02 PM

Dear Allahpundit: Thank you again for all you have been doing on the Iran crisis. I believe you provide better highlights and summaries, and ask harder questions than any of the major news outlets on the internet.

Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 5:55 PM

Allahpundit has always dug Persian chicks.

Blake on June 18, 2009 at 6:02 PM

As I said before, too bad they don’t have the Right to keep and bear arms – that kind of thing keeps governments from getting too full of themselves in times like these.

Chainsaw56 on June 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM

Illinidiva on June 18, 2009 at 5:58 PM

Excellent points, lady. Probably the best indicator of the complexity of this situation is that the lefties keep trying to find ways to simplify it.

warbaby on June 18, 2009 at 6:04 PM

In support of the protesters, Uhhhhbama will name the next fly he kills “Ahmadinejad” “Ahmabigganutjob”

darwin-t on June 18, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Update: Yep, sounds like tomorrow’s the moment of truth.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s Supreme Leader, has told Mir Hossein Mousavi to stand beside him as he uses Friday prayers at Tehran University to call for national unity.

So, Friday we see whether Mousavi thinks Khamenei can be toppled.

Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 6:04 PM

Dear Allahpundit: Thank you again for all you have been doing on the Iran crisis. I believe you provide better highlights and summaries, and ask harder questions than any of the major news outlets on the internet.

Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 5:55 PM

+1

warbaby on June 18, 2009 at 6:05 PM

Obama’s new Job Growth Plan:

Hire every artist graduating from SUNY Purchase to erect a government funded sculpture for every single Iranian killed tomorrow…

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM

You’re on. I’m taking ‘grealy disappointed’.
Limerick on June 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM

I’ve got $5 on Obama saying “greatly pained”.
myrenovations on June 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM

“greatly troubled”
Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 5:39 PM

5 bucks Obama says “deeply saddened” (the words used to describe arkansas soldier william long’s murder — ‘shocked and outraged’ if apparently only dignified enough for abortionists)

battleoflepanto1571 on June 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM

‘is’ not ‘if’

battleoflepanto1571 on June 18, 2009 at 6:08 PM

Why do bullied people turn to bullies for help?
Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 5:52 PM

From what I understand, the government banned all the real reformers from even campaigning.

Patrick S on June 18, 2009 at 6:09 PM

I got a nickel that says the first word is “Let” as in “Let me be clear on this matter.”
.
What can one say? Who has got $1,000 to go up against Daggett having Obama saying “uh.” Not me anyway. Is Dagget at the race track or bookies making these bets?

Americannodash on June 18, 2009 at 6:09 PM

Somebody should organize an all-green day here in the U.S., a show of support of the people here for the Iranian people’s struggle for liberty.

Just because our weak-kneed, terrorist-appeasing president won’t stand up or speak out for the Iranian people doesn’t mean we can’t.

AZCoyote on June 18, 2009 at 6:12 PM

5 bucks Obama says “deeply saddened” (the words used to describe arkansas soldier william long’s murder — ’shocked and outraged’ if apparently only dignified enough for abortionists)

battleoflepanto1571 on June 18, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Depends… they are a little higher up on his list given that they live in a sh*thole.

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 6:13 PM

If it’s true, and it probably is, that Rafsanjani is rounding up support from top mullahs in Qom for him and Mousavi, why haven’t we heard anything from them yet?

Because it is not a democracy. What you hear about is not what matters,

pedestrian on June 18, 2009 at 6:14 PM

Somebody should organize an all-green day here in the U.S., a show of support of the people here for the Iranian people’s struggle for liberty.

Just because our weak-kneed, terrorist-appeasing president won’t stand up or speak out for the Iranian people doesn’t mean we can’t.

AZCoyote on June 18, 2009 at 6:12 PM

July 4th?

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM

Obambi will be watching closely tomorrow to learn from the master Ayatolla how to squash any dissent. We have all seen how he treated the fly when the fly dared to fight with Obambi for camera attention. Be afraid be very afraid of Obambination. ;(

poxoma on June 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM

You’re on. I’m taking ‘grealy disappointed’.

Limerick on June 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM

I’ve got $5 on Obama saying “greatly pained”.

myrenovations on June 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM

“greatly troubled”

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 5:39 PM

“Let me be clear” is my bet. OR “I am very disturbed.”

OMG! Imadinnerjacket says “aliens” are the ones protesting. No kidding! That is exactly what he said.

freeus on June 18, 2009 at 6:16 PM

In fact, i wouldn’t be surprised if Khamenai gets killed by a bomb in the mosque tomorrow, and IRGC declares military rule.

Aristotle on June 18, 2009 at 6:16 PM

Prayers with the people. Here’s hoping the army sides with them if push comes to shoot.

SuperCool on June 18, 2009 at 6:16 PM

“greatly troubled”

[Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 5:39 PM]

I still have a job, I’ll put $5 on “Fore!”

Dusty on June 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM

This, plus NK getting ready to fire off a missle our way…..It`s going to be a hot summer.

ThePrez on June 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM

I have a feeling Mousavi is straddling a fence he does not know how to get off of himself.

At this point I think there is all sorts of chagrin for both the regime and Mousavi. If Mousavi is the maverick anti-regime reformer many of the students think he is…why has he not called for a “general strike”? If he has such supposed power to shut down the country why has he not leveraged it to force a change? I think he knows that if he calls for a general strike it’ll be the last thing he does…

elduende on June 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM

In fact, i wouldn’t be surprised if Khamenai gets killed by a bomb in the mosque tomorrow, and IRGC declares military rule.

Aristotle on June 18, 2009 at 6:16 PM

Would that be so bad?

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 6:19 PM

If Obama were forced to pay a dollar toward the national debt every time he said “I” or “me,” he’d be borrowing billions from China instead of us.

Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 6:19 PM

I still have a job, I’ll put $5 on “Fore!”

Dusty on June 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM

Hey, if you want a better chance… go with the sound of hand hitting fly.

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 6:20 PM

If Obama were forced to pay a dollar toward the national debt every time he said “I” or “me,” he’d be borrowing billions from China instead of us.

Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 6:19 PM

They could send him to a labor camp to think about what he’d done.

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 6:20 PM

To paraphrase something GWB once said, You’re either with us or against us… So far, everything that Zero shows me appears that he’s against them, and us.

Mr. Grump on June 18, 2009 at 6:21 PM

They could send him to a labor camp to think about what he’d done.

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 6:20 PM

And it would be Obama’s first real job.

Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 6:23 PM

Everything I’ve read points to Mousavi being a different brand of tyrant, but a tyrant nonetheless. If another strongman emerges as the victor of this struggle, Liberty will continue to be a victim in Iran. Why do bullied people turn to bullies for help?

Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 5:52 PM

I have read that Mousavi was behind the 1983 U.S. Marine barracks bombing in Lebanon. Unfortunately, one doesn’t even get the opportunity to run for office in Iran if the Mullahs don’t approve.

Disturb the Universe on June 18, 2009 at 6:23 PM

That is because Ogabe does support the clerics and the Basij. He’s taking pointers for that “civilian corps that will be as strong as the military.” I’m beginning to think the Basij is ACORN’s Persian branch.

PimFortuynsGhost on June 18, 2009 at 5:46 PM

That’s been my take all along from the first linguini-spined utterance from Obama. He’s taking notes.

onlineanalyst on June 18, 2009 at 6:24 PM

Let me be clear” is my bet. OR “I am very disturbed.”

OMG! Imadinnerjacket says “aliens” are the ones protesting. No kidding! That is exactly what he said.

freeus on June 18, 2009 at 6:16 PM

I’ll see yer ‘Let me be clear’ and raise you a ‘Let Me Be Perfectly Clear’ with a ‘Make No Mistake’ kicker.

And if he can find a way to work ‘It’s Bushes Fault’ in there I think I’ll just lay down and die.

BigWyo on June 18, 2009 at 6:28 PM

I’ll see yer ‘Let me be clear’ and raise you a ‘Let Me Be Perfectly Clear’ with a ‘Make No Mistake’ kicker.

And if he can find a way to work ‘It’s Bushes Fault’ in there I think I’ll just lay down and die.

BigWyo on June 18, 2009 at 6:28 PM

I think we have a sure winner

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 6:29 PM

…I have a feeling Mousavi is straddling a fence he does not know how to get off of himself.
elduende on June 18, 2009 at 6:17 PM

Mousavi has cards to play. Would the regime risk making a martyr of Mousavi? I think not.

diogenes on June 18, 2009 at 6:30 PM

Obama could use his Passive Aggressiveness (ha)

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZjYyOWM2NjAwM2Q2MWU1NmU0YTFjNzUwYTIwYjVlYWI=

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 6:34 PM

You’re on. I’m taking ‘grealy disappointed’.

Limerick on June 18, 2009 at 5:37 PM

I’ve got $5 on Obama saying “greatly pained”.

myrenovations on June 18, 2009 at 5:36 PM

“greatly troubled”

“troubled by the loss of life” (a’la the pirate episode).

commenter on June 18, 2009 at 6:35 PM

I have read that Mousavi was behind the 1983 U.S. Marine barracks bombing in Lebanon. Unfortunately, one doesn’t even get the opportunity to run for office in Iran if the Mullahs don’t approve.

I hate to say it, but that’s irrelevant. The important thing is that the Iranians establish a strong democracy; the tolerance will rise from there.

commenter on June 18, 2009 at 6:36 PM

Sounds like Khamenei’s getting ready to call out the Guard.

Sounds like Khamenei trusts the Guard. Allah, not so much.

MB4 on June 18, 2009 at 6:40 PM

We also need to add Israel to this mix of summer delight.

And while the Norks, Iranians, Palestinians, and Israelis are issues, please do not forget Pakistan, and those crazy Russians. Putin is someone we need to watch with those eyes in the back of our heads.

Question- Why is Bob Dole and a bipartisan tour with that scum Tom Daschle? Oh wait, Baker was there too. OMG! They were talking about healthcare. UGH!

freeus on June 18, 2009 at 6:42 PM

“I would never do it,” said Hossein, a 23-year-old member of the security forces who said he and many of his friends at the military base where he serves support the marchers. “Maybe someone would, but I would never fire on any of these people myself.”

Yes, Hoosein, but would you fire on those firing on the people? Do you think that Allah would want you to just stand idle with your finger up your butt?

MB4 on June 18, 2009 at 6:43 PM

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