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Olive Garden dumps Letterman; Update: Olive Garden denies; Update: E-mail shows OG, Hellmans backing away from Letterman

posted at 4:55 pm on June 18, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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A more sincere apology to Sarah Palin and her daughters hasn’t helped David Letterman and CBS avoid a sponsor exodus, and neither has Palin’s acceptance of his second attempt at a walk-back.  Politico reports that Olive Garden is now telling customers that they will pull the ads they bought for the rest of the year after a deluge of complaints hit their offices:

Following a week of back and forth between CBS late night comic David Letterman and Sarah Palin over a crude joke he told about the Alaska Republican governor’s daughter, the Olive Garden restaurant says it is cancelling all of its scheduled ads on Letterman’s “Late Show” for the rest of the year.

In an email to a Letterman critic obtained by POLITICO, a spokeswoman for the Italian restaurant chain wrote that “there will be no more Olive Garden ads scheduled for ‘The Late Show’ with David Letterman in this year’s broadcast schedule,” citing the talk show host’s “inappropriate comments.”

“We apologize that Mr. Letterman’s mistake, which was not consistent with our standards and values, left you with a bad impression of Olive Garden,” wrote Sherri Bruen, the company’s guest relations manager.

According to John Ziegler, who attended (but contrary to reports did not organize) protests at Letterman’s studio earlier this week, this won’t be the last sponsor to abandon CBS’ “Late Night”.  Hellman’s Mayonnaise will also pull its ads for the same reason, Ziegler told me earlier this afternoon.  More may follow suit, even after a ratings boost for Letterman just as his bete noir, Jay Leno, finally retired from late-night television.

Should the boycotts continue?  Palin accepted the apology, after all, and seems to want to move forward.  Letterman, though, has used Palin as a favorite punching bag, especially when he invites Katie Couric to join him on his show.  Her followers have a particular animus for both CBS stars and the network itself after last year’s treatment of Palin, which Ziegler documented in Media Malpractice, available at his site.

Update: Olive Garden denies that they’ve pulled any ads, but refuses to say whether they’ll do any more buys for Letterman this year:

The Olive Garden restaurant chain may not have been happy with David Letterman’s jokes about Gov. Sarah Palin and her family, but no order was issued to pull commercials from Mr. Letterman’s show, a spokesman for the company said Thursday.

Rich Jeffers, the spokesman, said Olive Garden was attempting to counter what he called “erroneous information out there,” which he said came from the website Politico. The site posted a report by Andy Barr on Thursday saying that the restaurant was “cancelling all its scheduled ads” on Mr. Letterman’s show for the rest of the year.

Mr. Jeffers said in a telephone interview that no such cancellation decision had been made and that the company’s schedule of commercials in the show had simply expired “earlier this month.” …

Asked if Olive Garden would buy new commercials in the Letterman show, Mr. Jeffers said, “There has been no decision along those lines yet.”

Still haven’t heard an announcement about Hellmans yet, either.

Update II: I got the e-mails in question from Olive Garden and Unilever, the parent company of Hellmans/Best Foods, through John. The Olive Garden e-mail strongly suggests that the company had decided not to buy any more advertising. First, Olive Garden’s reponse:

Dear [customer]:

Thank you for expressing your concerns about Olive Garden and allowing us an opportunity to respond.

We understand your concern about Mr. Letterman’s inappropriate comments. Olive Garden screens network television programs whenever possible. Telecasts, such as The Late Show with David Letterman, are taped on a daily basis, preventing advertisers from reviewing the content prior to airing. We apologize that Mr. Letterman’s mistake, which was not consistent with our standards and values, left you with a bad impression of Olive Garden. There will be no more Olive Garden ads scheduled for The Late Show with David Letterman in this year’s broadcast schedule.

We have not yet finalized next year’s advertising plan but will consider our valued guests’ opinions when doing so.

Again, thank you for contacting us with your comments, and we hope you will continue to think of Olive Garden as a place to visit with your family and friends.

That actually gibes with both Politico and Olive Garden. It doesn’t claim that the restaurant will pull its ads because it acknowledges that there are no ads to pull — but then the e-mail claims it will not buy advertising on Letterman through the rest of the year, and then kind of retreats into the “no decision will be made” mode.

Next, Unilever, which is more explicit:

Hello,

Thank you for contacting us regarding your disappointment with the program content which contained a commercial for a Unilever product. We never wish to offend anyone and your opinions are appreciated regarding this subject matter. Advertising for Hellmann’s or media buys are done months in advance and unfortunately we can’t foresee issues in the media before they come up. We appreciate the feedback from our consumers and we’ve decided to pull our online ads from the Letterman show from our advertising schedule moving forward.

We hope that this information has given you a better understanding of our advertising practices. Thank you again for taking the time to share your views with us. You can be assured that your comments will be considered as we continue to challenge our perceptions about what is appropriate for us in today’s environment.

Kind regards,

Your friends at Hellmann’s/Best Foods

I have a call into Unilever for a response, but that looks like an explicit statement of withdrawal.

Update III: One commenter notes that Hellmans/Unilever is only threatening to pull their online ads. Perhaps that’s all they bought in the first place, or they may just be hedging their bets. The online ad revenue for CBS and Letterman will not be terribly substantial, though.

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@ alliebobbitt on June 18, 2009 at 8:34 PM

Market isn’t deciding, a few very bored people with computers and telephones are deciding for everyone. For some reason, companies listen to these morons.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:36 PM

Firing Imus was wrong. So your solution is to fire another person. Excellent logic. You DON’T, like what Sharpton does, so to protest this, you do exactly what he does. Your logic is infallible.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:35 PM

I thought Imus deserved to be fired, and I found myself in agreement with Al Sharpton.

alliebobbitt on June 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:36 PM

If the sponsors didn’t think that outrage would be expressed in revenue, they would not have pulled their sponsorship.

alliebobbitt on June 18, 2009 at 8:38 PM

@ Beaglemom on June 18, 2009 at 8:34 PM

There are things such as standards and decency, just not in comedy. Again, who the hell are you to tell people what they can find funny or joke about? A GIGANTIC segment of America likes jokes about raunchy subjects, as is evident in almost every popular movie, television show, and radio show. If you don’t like it, don’t watch it. I am fairly certain you DON’t watch Letterman, so you are choosing to be offended by something you don’t even watch. That is stupid and a waste of time.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:40 PM

There are a lot of antisemites who have a problem with the Starbucks coffee chain sending money to Israel. I’ve always thought that was an urban legend, but I’m often surprised to find people I know casually boycott Starbucks for that.

alliebobbitt on June 18, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Gee, Dave is getting knocked up during the commercials.

Maybe the DNC will run some ads to help their aging pitchman hitman.

profitsbeard on June 18, 2009 at 8:41 PM

Oh No, Poor Dave. How can they do this to him? He was only making a funny Rape Joke. And then he made another prostitute Whore Joke about WILLOW on June 9. Oh the humanity.

Please stop picking on my Dave. He is just trying to eek out a living by degrading women, that’s all. Sarah is a slut, that’s a funny joke.

It does not degrade women to call them a slut on National television. Bristol has sex with A-Rod, funny. Willow the whore has sex with Spitzer. This is just humor people. Lighten up. Stop the Attack. You forced poor Dave to apologize. What is wrong with you conservatives at N.O.W? oh the humanity.

/sarc

Geochelone on June 18, 2009 at 8:41 PM

@ alliebobbitt on June 18, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Eww. You seriously wanted him fired because he made a naughty joke, even though there is a 99% chance you weren’t a listener of his? So raunchy jokes are not allowed anywhere without you demanding they stop, super.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:42 PM

absolutely no backing down…none…not one step back…they own what they say and do.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:36 PM

You little twit, you don’t think these companies don’t spend millions a year on market studies?
Who do you think buys Hellman, or goes to the Olive Garden, the foolish twinkie teating liberals?
It is the mom’s, the demographic that is offended by Letterman’s attack on a 14 year old girl.
Trojan condoms can support him, and others of their ilk, but respectful companies, whose demographics are 35 -50 with children know exactly what they must do…pull out.
Now Letterman can make a joke about “pulling out” pre-maturely.

right2bright on June 18, 2009 at 8:43 PM

There are things such as standards and decency, just not in comedy. Again, who the hell are you to tell people what they can find funny or joke about?

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Who the hell are you to tell people they can’t be outraged by rape jokes aimed at 14 YO girls? Also, even if it’s a “joke” it can still be deemed hate speech, harassment or slander. If a teenager is taunted to the point that it provokes suicide, that’s jail time, whether you were joking or not.

alliebobbitt on June 18, 2009 at 8:43 PM

@ Geochelone on June 18, 2009 at 8:41 PM

You are terrible at sarcasm.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:43 PM

@ right2bright on June 18, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Every company who has chosen to stand by comedians who have made jokes have been fine, and protests and boycotts have NEVER been successful.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:45 PM

You seriously wanted him fired because he made a naughty joke, even though there is a 99% chance you weren’t a listener of his?

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:42 PM

Calling young women of color who were competing in basketball for a scholarship “nappy headed hoes” is — once again — racist, insensitive and not funny.

alliebobbitt on June 18, 2009 at 8:46 PM

@ alliebobbitt on June 18, 2009 at 8:43 PM

They can be offended all they want. They can be outraged all they want. The joke was not about a 14 year old, everyone knows that. Normal people when they are offended or outraged change the channel. Of course, I would be correct to claim that a VAST majority of the people who are outraged, if not every single one was not watching the show live. A VAST majority were outraged after the fact as it was replayed on the news or online. So the only way for these people to express their outrage is to “boycott” companies which in again, a VAST majority of cases they were not going to support anyways.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:48 PM

@ alliebobbitt on June 18, 2009 at 8:46 PM

To YOU. It was pretty funny to a bunch of people.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:49 PM

I’m going to make myself a brandy stinger and watch Die Hard, because I miss when America wasn’t a bunch of nancies. I miss when people got the ass-kicking they had coming to them.

alliebobbitt on June 18, 2009 at 8:49 PM

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Again, who the hell are you to tell people what they can find funny or joke about?

You are just in a bad mood cause Dave Gutterman took it up the arse. He got knocked up in the sphincter by A-Rod. Funny. Spitzer gave Letterman AIDS. Hilarious.

Geochelone on June 18, 2009 at 8:49 PM

@ alliebobbitt on June 18, 2009 at 8:48 PM

Why aren’t you caling for the boycott of the dozens of shows that run on “rap” stations where they make remarks 10x as bad about white people, where they joke about violence, murder, etc of white people? Is that not offensive to you? Oh, you don’t listen to those stations? You don’t watch Letterman either, or listen to Imus either, or see Michael Richards live either.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM

Now Letterman can make a joke about “pulling out” pre-maturely.

right2bright on June 18, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Yes Hellman’s pulled out too soon and Dave has A-Rod’s mayo all over his read end.

Geochelone on June 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM

@ Geochelone on June 18, 2009 at 8:49 PM

You people are the only people trying to limit comedy here. You can find anything funny that you want. You are the only ones trying to BAN the comedy you don’t find acceptable, no one else is.

BTW, great jokes. You are a natural.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:54 PM

@ Geochelone on June 18, 2009 at 8:52 PM

I demand you are fired.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:54 PM

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:43 PM

Having a bad day are we? Lost your sense of HUMOR? Consumers can decide where they shop and what they buy. Letterman can keep making degrading jokes about women on his show. There might be consequences thought. What a great country.

Geochelone on June 18, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Our troll du-jour is in a self-righteous snit over people expressing their opinion to certain advertisers, as if they were abusing rather than exercising their right to free speech. It fairly drips with irony.

SKYFOX on June 18, 2009 at 9:00 PM

@ Geochelone on June 18, 2009 at 8:56 PM

I agree 100%. If that was what was going on, I would be fine with it. If ONLY the people who has ANY chance of eating at Olive Garden emailed Olive Garden and said that they were questioning their support of Letterman, I would disagree with them, but I have nothing wrong with that. But that is not what happens. Small groups of people do massive mailings to companies that they were never going to purchase from, and threaten to boycott their products unless they stop advertising on a certain show, as if inherently all of the advertisers agree with everything said on the show and are not just trying to reach a target audience. Even worse, a VAST majority of the people complaining NEVER watched the Letterman show to begin with, so they were NOT in the target audience of those commercials, so they are blatantly lying to the advertisers. WE saw this exact same thing with the nipple slip at the Super Bowl years back. One group, the “Parent’s Television council” or something like that were responsible for 99% of the FCC complaints, literally. This led to sweeping changes at the FCC, even though it was only a handful of people that complained.

THAT is ridiculous. Its called gaming the system. Its what Sharpton does, and he is wrong for doing it. Sadly, it is also what conservatives do now too.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 9:02 PM

wait….
their bread and salad is good?

is the ice water “really cold” too?

please….it’s (bad) fast food Italian……”but the bread is great!!” lol

greataunty on June 18, 2009 at 9:03 PM

@ SKYFOX on June 18, 2009 at 9:00 PM

Express your opinions to them all you want. Just make sure to tell them that you were NOT watching Letterman. You did NOT see their commercial. You saw the clip online. You found a list of advertisers online. And finally make sure to tell them that you are emailing all of the advertisers the same thing.

Or you could lie to them like a majority of people are doing by saying they watched the show, which means they are part of the advertisers “target audience”, and lying to them in most cases that in fact they use their product and will cease use of it.

Tell the truth and I have no problems with people being upset. Its just always people who were NOT watching the show, who DON’T use the product, who email advertisers and try to punish both of them for something they neither watch nor purchase.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 9:05 PM

What does A-Rod have to say about all this, is what I want to know.

Rae on June 18, 2009 at 9:09 PM

Again, who the hell are you to tell people what they can find funny or joke about? .thphilli

A bit hypocritical, aren’t you? You are saying I can’t tell people what they can find funny (which I never said), yet I can’t write a letter to a company if I so chose. It’s my time to waste. You want to know who I am? I am the mother of a 17 year old daughter. I am a woman. That gives me EVERY right to be offended. I don’t offend easily, but Letterman crossed the line, in MY opinion. You don’t want to be offended –don’t be.

You’re right –I don’t watch comedy because I don’t find bathroom humor funny. I don’t find men getting hit in the groin funny. I don’t think jokes about women getting raped funny. I find a Doberman Pincher with a collar around his neck “talking” in a high pitched voice funny. I have a right to not buy a product if I feel like it. Until Obama seizes what little he is letting me keep, it’s MY money.
You have a right to laugh. You want to laugh at Letterman or South Park or whatever? Go right ahead. No one is stopping you.If a GIGANTIC segment of America finds it funny, then they can write to the sponsors and say so.

Beaglemom on June 18, 2009 at 9:11 PM

Johnny Carson would not have made that joke. Jay Leno would not have made that joke. Jimmy Kimmel probably would not have made that joke. Letterman has become a bitter, old, washed-up, Liberal shill of a talk-show host.

kingsjester on June 18, 2009 at 9:15 PM

He’s beating Conan now by 1 million per night. This is the best thing thats ever happened to him and CBS. Keep dreaming boys, Dave’s not going anywhere! Thanks, Sarah!

dcwvu on June 18, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Better watch out here,Congress may decide late night TV is a Hate Crime or something?

Col.John Wm. Reed on June 18, 2009 at 9:24 PM

He’s beating Conan now by 1 million per night. This is the best thing thats ever happened to him and CBS. Keep dreaming boys, Dave’s not going anywhere! Thanks, Sarah!

dcwvu on June 18, 2009 at 9:21 PM

So everybody program their TV to turn on to NBC during Conan. The cat will have something to watch while the rest of America sleeps.

portlandon on June 18, 2009 at 9:25 PM

kingsjester on June 18, 2009 at 9:15 PM

O/T I had this funny idea for you and MadisonConservative. Since you are both getting married, you should go “register” at Target or some other national chain under the names you use here. Request silly stuff like bottle openers, fishing lures, joke stuff. Those of us that would like to, could celebrate your nuptials in a very silly way and remain anonymous. I can’t ever get you two on the same thread.

Cindy Munford on June 18, 2009 at 9:27 PM

Johnny Carson would not have made that joke. Jay Leno would not have made that joke.

You’re right. He made this one instead:

“Gov. Palin announced over the weekend that her 17-year-old unmarried daughter is five months pregnant. And you thought John Edwards was in trouble before! Now he has really done it.”

YYZ on June 18, 2009 at 9:28 PM

@ Beaglemom on June 18, 2009 at 9:11 PM

You have no RIGHT to be offended. That is one of the biggest problems in America today, everyone always playing the victim. The joke wasn’t about you, it wasn’t about your daughter. The people who it was about accepted an apology. You CHOOSE to be offended now. Lets just get that straight.

You can write all of the letters you want. Make sure to tell them if you saw the show live, which you most likely didn’t, if you use their product, which you most likely don’t, etc.

You say that I can watch anything I find funny. Personally I don’t find Letterman funny, but millions apparently do. How can they watch what they find funny when people who DON’T watch the show, such as yourself write in and attempt to get what they find funny removed? That is what I am arguing about. You are attacking a show that you don’t watch, apparently because you feel that NO one has the write to listen or watch that and laugh.

How would you feel for example, if a show that you did watch such as The O’Reilly Factor (Don’t know if you watch it) was removed from the air because a group of liberals began a massive boycott of his advertisers? They don’t watch the show, they don’t have to buy the products of people who advertise on the show, but they choose to make it so that NO one gets to watch the show.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 9:29 PM

@ @ Beaglemom on June 18, 2009 at 9:11 PM

Edit the last post –

“You have no right NOT to be offended.”

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 9:33 PM

We are well-acquainted with a small group of people campaigning to get their way.

Generally they’re lobbies or ‘activist’ groups.

But, in this case they aren’t ‘community organizers’ nor do they grease politicians’ palms so are unacceptable, typical, plain old American citizens-losers…nobodies as far as the Liberals with the self-reported high IQs are concerned.

Most people don’t like jokes if they’re mean-spirited and if the comedian only picks on certain groups. But, a lot of that depends on the comedian and in what setting they are performing.

Be that as it may, I think these joke writers at large have been pretty awful for the last 25 years or so. They pretty much sit around and crack each other up…and that’s good enough for them.

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 18, 2009 at 9:33 PM

Cindy Munford on June 18, 2009 at 9:27 PM

That’s very sweet. Funny, too. I’m so busy running “Honey-do’s”, my posting is sporadic. The big date is July 11th, cause she’s a Teaching Assistant and they’re starting school back August 3rd. Time’s getting short. I told the preacher last night that she’s so uptight right now that when she get’s out of the car, I have to smooth the seat back down. Again, if Madison agrees, that would definitely be funny.

kingsjester on June 18, 2009 at 9:35 PM

YYZ on June 18, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Was that slamming the Palins or that proven adulterer, Edwards? Seems to me like it was slamming an adult, not a child.

kingsjester on June 18, 2009 at 9:38 PM

I don’t watch Letterman any longer.

I don’t eat at OG anymore.

It’s a win/win for me!

madmonkphotog on June 18, 2009 at 9:38 PM

kingsjester on June 18, 2009 at 9:35 PM

July 11, that’s coming fast. I’ll try to catch Madison tomorrow, I usually “see” him during the day. This will probably be impossible to pull off. I obviously have too much time on my hands when I think of more things other people can do, even for fun.

Cindy Munford on June 18, 2009 at 9:41 PM

if you use their product, which you most likely don’t, etc

Wrong. I only wrote to those companies that I actually use. I am not going to write to a company and threaten to stop using them if I don’t use them.

I don’t “play the victim.” I have more self respect than that. I wasn’t the victim here. You don’t get it, do you? This was about decency and standards. It was an offensive joke. One can feel a moral outrage even though they aren’t the object of the joke, just as one can feel outrage over an act of cruelty. It was an intolerant act. But, you think it is okay to laugh about people with disabilities, so I am wasting my breath. You say anything goes in comedy, but you’re wrong.A comedian can cross the line Letterman crossed it. You don’t agree, so we’ll leave it there.

Beaglemom on June 18, 2009 at 9:52 PM

But certainly rape jokes can be funny.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 7:30 PM

I gonna give you a little FREE advice. That statement is ban worthy. It’s Ed and AP’s call. Misunderstand me at your peril. Whatever sick, demented, misfired synapses you’re suffering from don’t mean anything to me. Rape jokes aren’t funny. It doesn’t matter who or how old the victim.
You’re dead to me
Never Again!

Blacksmith8 on June 18, 2009 at 10:10 PM

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 9:33 PM

You seem to be forgetting that Free Speech does not mean consequence free speech. Whether they saw it live or not, or use the products that sponsor the show or not, it does not matter. People have the right to respond to speech even if they did not see it “live”.

I rarely catch Obama’s speeches live, but rather see clips on Youtube or catch parts on news/commentary programs. This does not mean I cannot have an opinion on what he says.

Per your remark about people boycotting O’Reilly, a business is free to stop sponsoring any show they wish as a result of consumer pressure. They just have to be smart enough to judge whether it is good for the bottom line, and if, in all honesty, they feel is justified enough to hurt their reputation by continuing to advertise with that show.

coyoterex on June 18, 2009 at 10:13 PM

George Carlin proved that even a rape joke can be funny depending on the context:

Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd. Why do you think they call him Porky?

That one works. Once you put it in the context of real-life however, it isn’t funny no matter how you slice it.

OlympicLeprechaun on June 18, 2009 at 10:22 PM

For me the problem is an old fart on tv fantasizing, whether in a joke or no, about the rape of a 14 year old girl – rape fantasy and pedophilia in one vile dose.

So I can forgo Hellman’s or the Olive Garden if they support such vileness.

Yes I can!

Dhuka on June 18, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Jesus couldn’t make better breadsticks.

lorien1973 on June 18, 2009 at 5:09 PM

Yes he could, and he’d feed 5,000 with just two of them!

jimmy2shoes on June 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM

He’s beating Conan now by 1 million per night.

dcwvu on June 18, 2009 at 9:21 PM

Got a source for that? ‘Cos I do, and you’re totally making stuff up.

Snowed In on June 18, 2009 at 11:15 PM

The problem is that NONE of you who are offended watch David Letterman.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:03 PM

I watched him off and on until that night, when I did see the “knocked up” joke air. After I heard Willow was the daughter at the game, I got a sick feeling just seeing his face plastered all over Hot Air.

Got any more incorrect generalizations to share?

Snowed In on June 18, 2009 at 11:18 PM

Calendar year or fiscal year?

HotWeaver on June 18, 2009 at 11:31 PM

Interesting to see this as I suggested that we find out who his sponsors are an nail them with comments about his commments. Some awesome person on here supplied a listing of his sponsors and I as I am sure others spread the word to lay our disgust at their feet and not purchase their products. I too got a response from these people I contacted, well not all, but some and it confirms that they are listening to consumers since they are all hurting and spend their limited funds on advertising to get sales up.

So the consumer system works, eh. Well why not contact everyone that contributes sponsorship to the NBC, ABC networks and do the same thing, maybe bankrupt them and get them off the air, or at least let them know the american taxpayer is sick of this lovefest with the socialist government. If they do not put pressure on the media, then send them a message and continue to email and stop purchasing their products. This seems to be the only way we may regain control of our country, or redirect the focus.

Shame the our in the pocket congressmen cannot be handled the same way.

Start a consumer revolt, take back our nation.

workingforpigs on June 18, 2009 at 11:36 PM

What say you Michelle Maulkin, what say you ED? We did the teaparty thing and they laughed it off, what about a consumer tea party??

workingforpigs on June 18, 2009 at 11:38 PM

@ Geochelone on June 18, 2009 at 8:41 PM

You are terrible at sarcasm.

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:43 PM

If I may quote you: “To YOU. It was pretty funny to a bunch of people.”

Decent people care when innocent people are savaged. It doesn’t matter to us whether we witness the savagery, we just want it stopped, and the person who committed the savagery to pay enough of a price that others will think twice before doing the same. Maybe when some fool is about to say something terrible about Sasha or Malia he’ll remember what happened to DL and come up with something else to say.

You seem to think the joke is okay if it’s about the 18-year-old. Do you really think so? Because she is still a kid herself, with a situation that’s tough enough without humiliating remarks being aired on nationwide tv. So she did something wrong — something the majority of kids these days do wrong, I might add. She is taking responsibility for it with considerable grace, and using her experience to try to help other young women avoid her mistake.

Letterman is a hateful pervert, and — short of using force of law to silence him — I’m all in favor of removing his ability to influence our culture. After all, look at what he’s done to you!

RegularJoe on June 18, 2009 at 11:41 PM

Picture Porky Pig …

That one works.

OlympicLeprechaun on June 18, 2009 at 10:22 PM

That’s funny to you?

Get help. You’re one step from thphilli country.

RegularJoe on June 18, 2009 at 11:47 PM

I am of two minds on the subject. On the one hand, I think continuing with the protests inevitably reflects back on the governor, and as many of us felt firing Imus was over the top, I think it would be hypocritical to demand Letterman lose his job here. He doesn’t really need our help in that dept. anyway. Conan is going to obliterate him in the ratings. He is already irrelevant. Just let the market do the job of forcing him off the air. Besides, you know the MSM would milk it for all the sympathy it’s worth if he were to get canned. They aren’t above hypocrisy at all.

On the other hand, I think we’ve made a surprisingly huge impact here. This wouldn’t still be going on, with sponsors threatening to pull their ads, if this were just a handful of nutty Palinistas emailing and complaining about the jokes. The fact that this has and is getting the attention it is tells me there are a LOT of people pissed about it, and a LOT of them are no doubt big Palin supporters. Perhaps this little dust up could serve as a warning shot over the bow to the vicious attack dogs on the left who think Palin is an easy target. Not so easy if you might end up losing your job over it.

So I don’t know what the right course is. What I do know is Sarah Palin is a force to be reckoned with and I think — hope! — that sobering thought is finally setting in for the liberals.

NoLeftTurn on June 19, 2009 at 12:32 AM

Forgive me for not reading ALL of the other posts. Here’s the deal – Sarah Palin and family have taken the joke for far too long. As far as I know, Palin has not instigated any of the outrage against Letterman. The election is over, but he is still piling on and the general public is getting annoyed. He’s lost his timing – to hell with him!

huchahucha on June 19, 2009 at 12:34 AM

Obama thinks that jokes about the Special Olympics are funny. Making fun of retards. WOW that is almost Lower than Letterman. But what can you expect from LibDems?

Geochelone on June 19, 2009 at 12:43 AM

Some of you should take your snowflake sensibilities and join PETA or something.

You make the hypersensitive Obama fans look like tough guys.

Moesart on June 19, 2009 at 2:10 AM

I understand Olive Garden sticking with Dave. It’s a limp wristed womens idea of a place to eat. Come on, what REAL man says: ” Let’s go to the Olive Garden,I have a hankering for a salad & bread sticks. So, being a limp wristed place, it’ll be a lefty DEM place.
Hellmans on the other hand seemed more old school,less lefty, so we’ll see.
It’s kind of like soft drinks. Lack of testosterone causes one to pick Pepsi.

Jeff from WI on June 19, 2009 at 6:31 AM

Poor wittle davie….as a foot soldier for the democrats he has done his work well….but someone has to take the fall for tea-bagging insults, tina fey/SNL take down of Sarah….conservative women rape list…continual anti-conservative jokes and agenda…and wittle davie has an island, billions of dollars, a young wife, etc.etc.TAKE HIM DOWN….maybe he can stop someone else from doing the same thing.

nondhimmie on June 19, 2009 at 6:49 AM

Some of you should take your snowflake sensibilities and join PETA or something.

You make the hypersensitive Obama fans look like tough guys.

Moesart on June 19, 2009 at 2:10 AM

Blow it out your ear. Palin and her supporters (I don’t really consider myself one of them) have taken so much crap about Palin herself, I don’t see how you can pretend they have “snowflake sensibilities”. But when Letterman brought the long knives out after her kids, that’s an entirely different matter.

Despite the best efforts of people such as yourself to kill it, outrage is not dead.

RegularJoe on June 19, 2009 at 6:49 AM

Snowflake, Obama, hhmmmmm..someone there has underlying race issue psychological problems.

Jeff from WI on June 19, 2009 at 7:42 AM

Some hyper-sensitive types on this post! If conservatives like me don’t like something we are to sit and keep our views to ourselves? I don’t think so! That is an old trick of the tards on the left! They cry foul every time the right asserts themselves! Well…tough! Go home and curl up in a ball down in your mommies basement and deal with it! We have had enough and we aren’t going away. Prepare for more of same! The left has had it’s day and we are now ready for a fight! And we actually bring ideas and intellectual might to the confrontation so you are already defeated. “The Art of War”… Defeat Your Enemy Before You Step On The Battle Field Not hard to do when dealing with mental twits who swallow everything fed to them by the MSM!

sabbott on June 19, 2009 at 8:35 AM

If Palin has accepted Letterman’s apology why do we keep this up.

In the grand scheme of things this has been dealt with and it is time to move on.

I accept it was a joke in poor taste so did Letterman and Palin has even put it behind her.

What is wrong with us that we can’t let it go?

This is why some of us look like extremists to the opposition. Some of you posting here are making me wonder if they are correct.

kanda on June 19, 2009 at 8:44 AM

Personally, I’m sick to death of conservatives in general being the punching bag for the main stream media, late night talk show hosts, celebrities and pretty much everyone else on the left.

I think the protests should continue. In fact, I think we should protest, boycott and send letters to every advertiser of every major news outlet. I’ve had enough. It’s gone beyond ridiculous.

Sue

SueM on June 19, 2009 at 8:48 AM

Oh lets not back down. I did a search of my local liberal birdcage liner and found out they referenced or wrote major news stories with :Letterman: over 1,200 times.
They wouldn’t have done that if Dave was poking fun at Bill, Hillary, or Chelsea.
He’s a unidirectional comic.

More importantly he’s the revenue generator that keep Couric subsidised and on the air.

If it is within our power to kick the stool out from under dear old Dave, let the stool be kicked.

papertiger on June 19, 2009 at 8:50 AM

It seems a few idiots have wandered over and refuse to admit that when comedy crosses the line into hate speech and slander, it’s not funny, not protected by the First Amendment and not what Americans want.

alliebobbitt on June 19, 2009 at 8:51 AM

I accept it was a joke in poor taste so did Letterman and Palin has even put it behind her.

What is wrong with us that we can’t let it go?

This is why some of us look like extremists to the opposition. Some of you posting here are making me wonder if they are correct.

kanda on June 19, 2009 at 8:44 AM

You have no right to tell people how they can feel. When this scandal started, people organized boycotts. Anyone who has been involved in activism knows you need to give it at least 30 days. “Keep the pressure on. Never let up.” Rule 8

If conservatives are going to use their Constitutional right to protest, they need to be organized and can follow the left’s example. They’ve made an art of perpetual victim status. Some of their gripes were legitimate, but this one is for sure, and conservatives have a right to be upset.

alliebobbitt on June 19, 2009 at 8:59 AM

Found this on another board…

THE TOP TEN – WHY OBAMA WON’T GO ON FOX NEWS #10. He couldn’t filibuster with ten minute answers to only 2 or 3 questions. # 9. He wouldn’t have his teleprompter and knows nobody wants to hear a bunch of uh uh uhs. # 8. He would be embarrassed to learn his appearance on Fox is the only way to lower Fox ratings. # 7. There are no flies at Fox for him to kill. # 6. He doesn’t want to hurt the feelings of his teleprompter by leaving him home alonE. # 5. He doesn’t have the time since he is still on the campaign trail. # 4. Fox says mean things about ACORN. # 3. He would be disappointed when nobody had tingles running down their legs. # 2. He does not want to waste taxpayer money making frivolous trips to shows. # 1. He is not used to being around people who are better looking and smarter than him.

reshas1 on June 19, 2009 at 9:01 AM

Some of you should take your snowflake sensibilities and join PETA or something.

You make the hypersensitive Obama fans look like tough guys.

Moesart on June 19, 2009 at 2:10 AM

Would you ( or other readers who agree with you) please help me out here.
Since you are obviously of the opinion that those who were offended by Letterman don’t get the humor of his “jokes”,please tell me exactly what it is that you find funny in those “jokes”.

oldernwiser on June 19, 2009 at 9:04 AM

I think Dave would like to thank the wingnuts for making his show more visible. At what point will people realize that this sort of thing is counterproductive?

You highly offended people didn’t watch the show in the first place.

Krydor on June 19, 2009 at 9:05 AM

I see a lot of nuts saying that you have to watch the show to be offended. Since when did you have to actually have to see something to be offended? Ever hear of decency? Are you offended by slavery? I’d say none here witnessed it. How about the Holocaust, witness that? Use your brains if you can.

pitter43 on June 19, 2009 at 9:18 AM

I received much the same responses from the above named companies and some others too. If you will recall, Olive Garden has as it’s slogan’when you’re here you’re family’. I cannot imagine their continuing to advertiase on ANY show which demeans women for any reason. In fact, I shall write and remind them of this.

jeanie on June 19, 2009 at 9:22 AM

Krydor on June 19, 2009 at 9:05 AM

I answered both those points earlier on this page: his ratings are down, and I did watch it.

And you obviously didn’t read those posts and believe only what you want to believe anyway.

Snowed In on June 19, 2009 at 9:27 AM

A few people posting here are saying “why can’t you let it go? Palin accepted his apology….yadda, yadda, yadda.” I also read that someone said we should let it go because of “principles.” Well, it’s because of “principles” that we can’t let it go.

For the last eight years, we’ve had to hear some of the most degrading vilest things said about Bush, conservatives, this country, etc., and it hasn’t stopped. I’m not alone in shouting ENOUGH!

This is beyond Sarah Palin, it’s about common human decency, which a lot in this country have forgotten what that means. It’s time they learn what it means again.

Maybe those who think this should be dropped should ask themselves, if I can’t stand-up to human decency, then what am I willing to stand-up for? If you still don’t get it, then go bury your head back in the sand.

moonsbreath on June 19, 2009 at 9:33 AM

There are things such as standards and decency, just not in comedy. Again, who the hell are you to tell people what they can find funny or joke about?

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:40 PM

I wonder how funny the Presidente Pinnochio Koolaid drinkers and water carriers would have thought it was had Dave the Douchebag made the JOKE about Michelle and Obama daughters.

OFF WITH HIS HEAD
Would have been the response as it was when Imus made a far less offensive, no more over the line joke about some black college girls.

dhunter on June 19, 2009 at 9:35 AM

I think Dave would like to thank the wingnuts for making his show more visible. At what point will people realize that this sort of thing is counterproductive?

You highly offended people didn’t watch the show in the first place.

Krydor on June 19, 2009 at 9:05 AM

Counterproductive? The protests damaged Letterman enough that he apologized — practically groveled the last time, in fact. Making it cost something to attack children was the goal, and I’d say that was done.

And whether I watch the show is immaterial (though on occasion I do — maybe a half-dozen times a year). There’s a park across town I’ve never been to; but if there’s someone attacking children there, should I just mind my own business, since I never go there anyway? That argument is beyond lame.

RegularJoe on June 19, 2009 at 9:41 AM

Again, who the hell are you to tell people what they can find funny or joke about?

thphilli on June 18, 2009 at 8:40 PM

Who the hell are you to tell people what they can find funny or joke about, OR FIND OFFENSIVE?

Who are you to claim that comedy is more sacred and enjoys more rights than children or women or religion?

What you joke about in private is your own private business.

What gets nationally broadcast is the public’s business.

maverick muse on June 19, 2009 at 9:48 AM

…not protected by the First Amendment….

alliebobbitt on June 19, 2009 at 8:51 AM

Mmmm, you lost me on that one point. As disgusting as his comments were, I think they were protected by the First Amendment — at least close enough that I’ll give the tie to the runner as far as legality is concerned. The tools for this job are public opinion, shunning, protests — i.e. fighting speech with speech. I REALLY don’t want to see us go down the road of the gub’mint deciding what jokes are legal, especially where politics are concerned.

RegularJoe on June 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM

RegularJoe on June 19, 2009 at 9:51 AM

Who’s using the government here? The people still protesting are using market forces. My reading of alliebobbitt’s post was that while govt ought not censor this kind of stuff, there is nothing in the 1st Amendment to keep groups of private citizens from bringing pressure to bear.

Snowed In on June 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM

Rapists can apologize. They still do time in jail. Olive Garden has a product many people like and can find a media to advertise on that doesn’t clash with their customers values. I hope Letterman sees his dirt is like an advertiser doing a recall for e coli in the food.

seven on June 19, 2009 at 10:12 AM

The first amendment rights to assemble for free speech are just fine until and unless they begin to cause unacceptable harm to others protected under that same amendment. I think that implied in this amendment is also, an possibly primarily, the mandate to use this right RESPONSIBLY. In my opinion, Letterman and Imus both showed a serious lack of responsibility.

jeanie on June 19, 2009 at 10:14 AM

Good work, guys. Letterman thought he was bullet proof. Maybe we’re starting to find our voice again.

petefrt on June 19, 2009 at 10:16 AM

I hope Sarah posts a picture on SarahPac soon of her walking into an Olive Garden carrying a jar of Hellmans with her kids and husband in tow.

That reminds me I haven’t recievd any contribution letters from the useless RNC lately so haven’t had to rip them in half and enclose in an envelope with a contribution to SarahPac.
I hope they didn’t see my method for donating on here and stop sending me requests its costing Sarah money!

Also, Allah hasn’t posted a Sarah bashing post for a few days so again no donations to SarahPac. Come on guys hows a girl to raise funds to take this country back without your cooperation?

dhunter on June 19, 2009 at 10:18 AM

At least the left doesn’t have a monopoly on crazy protesters.

Dave’s ratings are doing just fine. For every sponsor that drops, another one will take their place.

There is so much wrong with protesting what Dave said. You people would have passed out at a Richard Pryor or Lenny Bruce concert.

Krydor on June 19, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Palin accepted the apology, after all, and seems to want to move forward.

Good for her (seriously). I reserve the right to to believe the “apologies” were not sincere and don’t believe Letterman actually believes he did anything wrong. He only apologized to cover his assets.

taznar on June 19, 2009 at 10:20 AM

Sorry, I seem to be having continuing problems with quotes…

taznar on June 19, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Who’s using the government here?

Snowed In on June 19, 2009 at 9:58 AM

With due respect, please re-read what both Allie and I said. I’m all for using everything EXCEPT force of law. Alliebobbitt just went a bit over-the-top when HE suggested that the joke wasn’t protected speech — i.e. that government force could be brought to bear against Letterman. And, as I said, that was the ONLY point upon which he and I disagree.

Based upon the last sentence of your comment, maybe you understood him to be claiming First Amendment protection for the protests. I certainly agree that protest is protected (”fight speech with speech”, as I said); but that’s not what Allie was saying. Allie said that the JOKE was NOT protected by the First Amendment.

RegularJoe on June 19, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Palin accepted the apology, after all, and seems to want to move forward.

Obviously! Forgiveness is for the soul of the forgiver not the health of the forgiven!
Anyone who has seen the slings and arrows Sarah and family have endured from the State Run Media, the Juan McAmnesty campaign team and family, the Democrat party, corrupt pols on both sides of the isle in Alaska, could see that she knows this goes with the territory and does not let a batch of inbred halfwits get under her skin. She marches on takin care of a family, a state and someday this formerly great country.

dhunter on June 19, 2009 at 10:26 AM

At what point will people realize that this sort of thing is counterproductive?
Krydor on June 19, 2009 at 9:05 AM

Ah, is that the mating call of the ‘moderate’? Yes, it’s much more productive to drop your pants and let the other side walk all over you. You should run for the Senate. You’re a natural. Soon, you’ll be telling us bigots to shut up.

Letterman crossed the line and now he gets to feel the hurt. Had he made that ‘funny to millions’ joke in a store to a father, he’d be laying on the floor bleeding profusely wondering what his name was. It was a hate joke and it blew up in his face. Since Todd Palin won’t get the pleasure of punching him in the mouth, many people are going the other route and hitting him in the wallet. It will be over when people have decided they had enough.

austinnelly on June 19, 2009 at 10:30 AM

RegularJoe on June 19, 2009 at 10:21 AM

I didn’t think you were wanting to use govt…I just didn’t think that Allie was necessarily calling for govt intervention simply by saying that the 1st Amendment didn’t protect Letterman’s remarks.

And my last sentence was intended to convey that the protests currently happening have nothing to do with the 1st Amendment. I think we’re all really on about the same page here.

Snowed In on June 19, 2009 at 10:32 AM

Yes, it’s much more productive to drop your pants and let the other side walk all over you.

austinnelly on June 19, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Kinda mixing your metaphors there, aren’t you?

Snowed In on June 19, 2009 at 10:34 AM

Dave’s ratings are doing just fine. For every sponsor that drops, another one will take their place.

The timing stinks as far as telling what, if any, impact this has had on viewership. With Leno changing to Conan at the same time, it’s impossible to say how each of the two variables involved affects viewership.

There is so much wrong with protesting what Dave said. You people would have passed out at a Richard Pryor or Lenny Bruce concert.

Krydor on June 19, 2009 at 10:20 AM

I’m wondering if you’re really dense, or just choosing not to understand the point. Pryor and Bruce made their living being obnoxious jerks, and would never have sought (or gotten) sponsorship from mainstream companies. They were “counterculture”. Shunned from polite society from the start. Immune to shame. I would never have gone to their shows, and I wouldn’t have bothered to protest, because neither they nor the worthless swine that gobbled up tickets to feed at their troughs were capable of caring who was hurt by them.

Letterman, however, lives on the edge between the counterculture pit on the one side and mainstream America on the other. Unlike Pryor and Bruce, who only fed slop to people who had already become pigs, Letterman — living, as I say, on the edge — had the power to influence others who were on the edge; but because his sponsorship is mainstream, he cannot do that without a certain amount of mainstream approval. What has happened is that mainstream America — heck, even NOW, for crying out loud — has pretty much unanimously agreed that he went too far when he went after the kids. We in mainstream America are saying that we will not consent to his pushing the culture to that level of vulgarity. If he wants to do so, he’ll have to do it without our sponsorship.

Maybe you should be calling Zig-Zag to see if they want to sponsor Letterman. Then he could be as filthy as he wants.

RegularJoe on June 19, 2009 at 10:35 AM

It will be over when people have decided they had enough.

austinnelly on June 19, 2009 at 10:30 AM

Well said Austin! You folks out there trying to shut this down haven’t seen anything yet.
Some of us are getting Damn mad at the crass, arrogant, condecension, the righteous indignation against those who don’t march lock step with the Pinnochio Presidente.

It was OK to slander, demean, parody and curse George W. Bush, but if we dare stand up to corrupt Dem clowns and media whores we are told to STFU.

I don’t think so!

dhunter on June 19, 2009 at 10:38 AM

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