Mousavi spokesman to Obama: Stop saying that we’re no different from Ahmadinejad

posted at 10:19 pm on June 18, 2009 by Allahpundit

Via the Standard, “external spokesman” Mohsen Makhmalbaf sounds off. In a week marked mostly by deafening silence from the White House, it’s astounding that The One still somehow managed to offend the great hope of the Iranian freedom movement. Note to Barry: If a guy’s supporters are known for chanting “Death to the dictator” about Ahmadinejad, there are probably a few pertinent differences between the two.

FP: There has been growing criticism here in Washington that U.S. President Barack Obama hasn’t said or done enough to support those demonstrating in the streets of Iran. Do you think Obama is being too careful? Or even that he is helping Ahmadinejad by being cautious?

MM: Obama has said that there is no difference between Ahmadinejad and Mousavi. Does he like it himself [when someone is] saying that there is no difference between Obama and [George W.] Bush? Ahmadinejad is the Bush of Iran. And Mousavi is the Obama of Iran…

FP: Would Mousavi be willing to accept some sort of power-sharing arrangement? Say, Ahmadinejad remains as president but Mousavi becomes prime minister once again?

MM: This is not a solution, because people do not want Ahmadinejad at any level. He is so illiterate that — the millions of people in the street — he called them trash. And now, people are telling him: You are trash.

FP: Does Mousavi have a message that he’d like to deliver to the international community?

MM: [He asks] that the governments [of the world] pay attention to the people in the streets and do not recognize the government of Ahmadinejad as the representative of Iran — [that they] do not recognize the government of Ahmadinejad as a legitimate government. Iran is a very important country in the region, and the changes in Iran could have an influence everywhere. So as a result, it’s not only an internal matter — it’s an international problem. If Iran could be a democratic Islamic country, that would be a pattern, a role model, for other Islamic countries. And even if Iran has a terrorist image [today], it would be a model for other countries [in the future].

Elsewhere in the interview, he claims that Iranians don’t want nuclear weapons, which may or may not be true in light of recent polling. Exit question: How much of this is serious and how much hot air aimed at winning western support in the short term? The only way Mousavi would have latitude to abandon the nuke program in exchange for lifting all economic sanctions is if the regime comes fully apart at the seams, with the fundamentalist element — including the Revolutionary Guard — largely liquidated. How likely is that?

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Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 10:21 PM

Another outstanding moment in history,

By Hopey/Changey,

as the Fence Post Turtle!

canopfor on June 18, 2009 at 10:22 PM

This guy is having a pretty Shi’ite-y two weeks

blatantblue on June 18, 2009 at 10:23 PM

This is the problem with moral equivalence. It’s horsecrap. Never trust a man who cannot take a stand on principle. Some things are worth standing for, whether they be popular or not.

jimmy2shoes on June 18, 2009 at 10:23 PM

Obama is too busy delegitimizing the Israeli government…

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 10:25 PM

Anyone who compares W to Dinnerjacket is an asshol* and can shut the f*** up.

pedestrian on June 18, 2009 at 10:26 PM

Obama is a coward, and unless he somehow can gain some power from taking a stand he won’t do it. He is the biggest embarrassment the US Presidency has ever, EVER seen. I really hate him, sorry Mom, but I do…….*sigh*

clinker46 on June 18, 2009 at 10:26 PM

Ahmadinejad is the Bush of Iran. And Mousavi is the Obama of Iran…

Um, yay?

Reaps on June 18, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Not only does he fail to support the freedom fighter in the streets by largely remaining silent, when he does open his mouth he manages to alienate them. Now that’s what I call Obama Smart Power!

TheBigOldDog on June 18, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Mr.Obama….tear down this apathy.

NeoKong on June 18, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Note to Barry: If a guy’s supporters are known for chanting “Death to the dictator” about Ahmadinejad, there are probably a few pertinent differences between the two

.

But all of them have a long history of chanting, “Death to the Big and Little Satans” — not so different.

And Mousavi has 241 dead US Marines on his scorecard. It’s clear that most of you are from a younger generation and don’t feel the outrage that people who were around in 1983 do. Shame on you.

Blake on June 18, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Ahmadinejad is the Bush of Iran. And Mousavi is the Obama of Iran…

Wrong answer!

Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Mr.Obama….tear down this apathy.

NeoKong on June 18, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Oh… I thought you were going for empathy… Let’s throw that in too.

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 10:29 PM

…as the Fence Post Turtle!

canopfor on June 18, 2009 at 10:22 PM

You nailed that one there, friend……

Patrick S on June 18, 2009 at 10:30 PM

Iran is still squarely in the cross-hairs
for being a smoking gapeing hole,hopefully,
the less evil of the two Iranian thugs,will
prevail,and the Iranian peoples voice will
be heard!!

Heres a scenario that would be interesting!

Iranian operative students,all ready have this planned,
hi-jacked some of the Iranian missile forces,and re-targetted said missiles to rain down death on the Mullah’s
strong holds,compounds,bunkers,and the Revolutionary
guard complexes!!(Snark).

canopfor on June 18, 2009 at 10:31 PM

Clearly, the external spokesman did not listen to The Cairo Speech.

redwhiteblue on June 18, 2009 at 10:32 PM

Not only does he fail to support the freedom fighter in the streets by largely remaining silent, when he does open his mouth he manages to alienate them. Now that’s what I call Obama Smart Power!

TheBigOldDog on June 18, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Here’s a picture to go with that Obama Smart Power.

mizflame98 on June 18, 2009 at 10:33 PM

I have to ask,where any flies found on any of this!

Enquiring minds need to know!!

canopfor on June 18, 2009 at 10:35 PM

Hey has anyone noticed Michelle’s arms lately?

F15Mech on June 18, 2009 at 10:36 PM

Mousavi is the Obama of Iran? Why can’t they just take our Obama?

flipflop on June 18, 2009 at 10:36 PM

I have to ask,where any flies found on any of this!

Enquiring minds need to know!!

canopfor on June 18, 2009 at 10:35 PM

Flies is code for Iranian Demonstrators …

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 10:36 PM

Clearly, the external spokesman did not listen to The Cairo Speech.

redwhiteblue on June 18, 2009 at 10:32 PM

Yeah, our Narcissist-in-Chief apparently thought that was all it would take. Nothing but a friggin’ speech-reader. “Our country must now atone for its sins by standing by and observing…”

ddrintn on June 18, 2009 at 10:36 PM

Hey has anyone noticed Michelle’s arms lately?

F15Mech on June 18, 2009 at 10:36 PM

No… but as I posted on another thread… I really like her new hair…

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3462/3259466978_b494dd1b95_o.jpg

Or is it…

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2007/stylewatch/blog/070903/buddy_braids_300x400.jpg

?

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 10:38 PM

“Mousavi is the Obama of Iran”

Well…they’re both muslims.

LtE126 on June 18, 2009 at 10:38 PM

The spokesman is simply confused. It is Obama who is Ahmadenejad of the USA and Bush is one who was promoting freedom around the world. Otherwise he is right to be angry about Obama.

finallyhere on June 18, 2009 at 10:38 PM

I love seeing everything we predicted about Ochimpy’s unfitness for office being proven true daily.

Dopey/blamey

Ochimpy is despicable and his supporters are deranged.

csdeven on June 18, 2009 at 10:38 PM

What I find amazing is Obama decried our use of “torture” to the world and stated that we would no longer use “torture” because it goes against our core principals. Well, what about our core principals while he stand idly by and watch protesters being persecuted because they dare defy a crooked election? I guess it’s selective indignation.

mizflame98 on June 18, 2009 at 10:39 PM

Flies is code for Iranian Demonstrators….

Upstater85 on June 18,2009 at 10:36PM.

Upstaer85: The way some Iranian citizens are being flatten
ed,your statement is be accurate!:)

canopfor on June 18, 2009 at 10:40 PM

Mr.Obama….tear down this apathy.

NeoKong on June 18, 2009 at 10:27 PM

Oh… I thought you were going for empathy… Let’s throw that in too.

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 10:29 PM

And here the solution was right in front of us the whole time. Obama just needs some more empathy for this real life situation going on in Iran. OK, well, I’m sure Obama is like the Holy Ghost of Empathy, so I guess he needs to anoint Hillary with some of this…

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 10:40 PM

Upstaer85: The way some Iranian citizens are being flatten
ed,your statement is be accurate!:)

canopfor on June 18, 2009 at 10:40 PM

Yeah it was only half /sarc

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 10:41 PM

Obama has said that there is no difference between Ahmadinejad and Mousavi.

And that is where the filthy liar in the White House
failed.

I honestly think that Obama has said too much about Iran’s politcs already. The US doesn’t even have formal relations with Iran. Obama should have made a generic statement about the US supporting free and open elections and then shutting up.

The actual differences between Ahmadinejad and Mousavi are irrelevant. This is one situation where the filthy liar in the White House should have remained silent. Instead, the bastard wanted to prove he was the smartest kid in the class by picking sides in an election where THIS nation officially has no position. This is diplomacy 101 and Obama clearly has failed. Why the bastard wasn’t better advised is beyond my comprehension.

highhopes on June 18, 2009 at 10:42 PM

Reality has a rather spectacular way of exploding in a leftists face. Hey Barry how’s that Iran policy working out for yah? Hmmm, not answering are you?, well its probably for the best because Iran is working out about as good as the Bond Market, oh and healthcare, oh and North Korea, oh and Israel, oh and Gitmo, oh and….

elduende on June 18, 2009 at 10:42 PM

And Mousavi is the Obama of Iran…

This is supposed to be a good thing, I guess. *rolleyes* I guess the mullahs are the Democrat Party of Iran.

The only way Mousavi would have latitude to abandon the nuke program in exchange for lifting all economic sanctions is if the regime comes fully apart at the seams, with the fundamentalist element — including the Revolutionary Guard — largely liquidated. How likely is that?

Not likely, I’d say.

I don’t know how wise it is though to stake a lot on Mousavi. Supporting this guy could bring third-degree burns somewhere down the line. Better to express solidarity early on with genuinely democratic elements.

ddrintn on June 18, 2009 at 10:42 PM

Suport the people of Persia, Barry.

Cheer their throwing off the shackles of tyranny.

Even if they aren’t, maybe by suggesting it, some might.

Obama can b.s. about every meaningless thing in the world, but when the skill is really needed to do something historically worthwhile, he’s as tongue-tied as drunk eating a mousetrap sandwich.

Champion the Persian people, oaf.

Before it’s all over… and the ayatollahs clamp down with Death again.

profitsbeard on June 18, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Obama Administration Press release: Issued June 18, 2009

Obviously, Mousavi was confused and disoriented when he made these remarks about President Obama.

In other news, Michelle Obama’s arms fed 17 Palestinian children suffering from the oppression of those Jews those Zionists.

Good Lt on June 18, 2009 at 10:43 PM

The Iranian protests could present Barak Obama’s historic moment, his response to 9-11, a make or break for his foreign policy legacy, probably his overall legacy (since his ability to cram expensive legislation through an unpopular Congress is slipping away).

Can he be so clueless? This voting of “present” is beginning to look like a compulsive disorder. Even Joe Biden could get this one right.

exdeadhead on June 18, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Exit question: How much of this is serious and how much hot air aimed at winning western support in the short term?

I think we are all hoping (maybe a futile hope) that this is bigger than Mousovi. Maybe the Iranians will decide that they are all scum and throw the entire rotten regime out. Nobody in the west should trust Mousavi, that much is clear. But he may be the spark that sets off the conflagration.

AUINSC on June 18, 2009 at 10:44 PM

And Mousavi has 241 dead US Marines on his scorecard.

Blake on June 18,2009 at 10:28PM.

Blake: Ya,the barracks bombing! Mousavi,is the founder of
Hesbollah,if my facts are correct!!:)

canopfor on June 18, 2009 at 10:44 PM

Speaking of Joe Biden, he’s been remarkably quiet. Or, muzzled maybe?

exdeadhead on June 18, 2009 at 10:46 PM

Speaking of Joe Biden, he’s been remarkably quiet. Or, muzzled maybe?

exdeadhead on June 18, 2009 at 10:46 PM

He’s on ebay trying to find the I sorta-kinda support the tanks T-shirt…

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 10:47 PM

Suport the people of Persia, Barry.

Cheer their throwing off the shackles of tyranny.

Even if they aren’t, maybe by suggesting it, some might.

Obama can b.s. about every meaningless thing in the world, but when the skill is really needed to do something historically worthwhile, he’s as tongue-tied as drunk eating a mousetrap sandwich.

Champion the Persian people, oaf.

Before it’s all over… and the ayatollahs clamp down with Death again.

profitsbeard on June 18, 2009 at 10:43 PM

In other words, Obama should be a Reagan Republican. To quote AP, how likely is that?

ddrintn on June 18, 2009 at 10:48 PM

One thing we can be certain of is that once this little “coup” has been crushed, Obama will have had plenty of time to craft a speech for TOTUS…

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 10:49 PM

This just in…The Obama Administration just called Dinnerjacket and gave him an hour to resign or be fired.

What, no, that wasn’t him…somebody else was forced out that wasn’t Ahmadinejad. Uuuuh, my bad.

Laura in Maryland on June 18, 2009 at 10:50 PM

Speaking of Joe Biden, he’s been remarkably quiet. Or, muzzled maybe?

exdeadhead on June 18, 2009 at 10:46 PM

He’s on ebay trying to find the I sorta-kinda support the tanks T-shirt…

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 10:47 PM

Maybe attending a funeral in Nowheristan. It’s actually just Newark, but the helicopter pilot didn’t tell him.

ddrintn on June 18, 2009 at 10:50 PM

Speaking of Joe Biden, he’s been remarkably quiet. Or, muzzled maybe?

exdeadhead on June 18, 2009 at 10:46 PM

they have him gaged and locked in a closet, or something..

SHARPTOOTH on June 18, 2009 at 10:52 PM

Political correctness.

Speakup on June 18, 2009 at 10:52 PM

It sounds like both of these guys suck. Unfortunately, a few thousand rich middle class youth is not going to be able to elect their own liberal leader.

Speedwagon82 on June 18, 2009 at 10:53 PM

Maybe Duh One thinks his “surprisingly good” (Sorry, Ed!) Cairo speech needs to be translated into Austrian Iranian and then they’ll calm down.

SouthernGent on June 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM

(Biden)’s on ebay trying to find the I sorta-kinda support the tanks T-shirt…

Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 10:47 PM

His T-shirts are all company logos:

Waffle House
Kinko’s
Crest Toothpaste
Master Gunlocks
etc.

exdeadhead on June 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM

Sumpin really bad is going to happen in the streets
of Tehran,if the protesters keep it up!

Whats it been now,day 5,or 6,in the streets!!

canopfor on June 18, 2009 at 10:55 PM

Ahmadinejad is the Bush of Iran. And Mousavi is the Obama of Iran…

I don’t blame Mohsen Makhmalbaf for this. He was indoctrinated by an American Media that was the Democratic Party Propaganda Department before Obama made it cool to be the Democratic Party Propaganda Department.

Dusty on June 18, 2009 at 10:55 PM

Think about it, though. The Democrats have more contempt for Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin and the Tea Partiers than they do for the mullahs in Iran. Un-frickin-believable.

ddrintn on June 18, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Ahmadinejad is the Bush of Iran. And Mousavi is the Obama of Iran…

Yes, but do you have a wise latina? I think not.

Great moments in liberal foreign policy: “That’s not the Mousavi I thought I knew.”

BPD on June 18, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Exit question: How much of this is serious and how much hot air aimed at winning western support in the short term?

Heh. That’s funny.

The only way Mousavi would have latitude to abandon the nuke program in exchange for lifting all economic sanctions is if the regime comes fully apart at the seams, with the fundamentalist element — including the Revolutionary Guard — largely liquidated. How likely is that?

So, you’re assuming that the “fundamentalist element” is the only group that wants nukes in Iran? That’s pretty funny, too. You’re killing me tonight, allah. But you should really start putting some sarc tags in, lest someone think that you are asking serious questions.

The only answer to this, obviously, is to have the three America-haters (Achmadinejad, Mousavi, and B. Hussein) fight it out in a cage match.

Between Achmadinejad, Mousavi, and B. Hussein, there’s not a dime’s worth of difference.

progressoverpeace on June 18, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Think about it, though. The Democrats have more contempt for Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin and the Tea Partiers than they do for the mullahs in Iran. Un-frickin-believable.

ddrintn on June 18, 2009 at 10:57 PM

This thought crossed my mind too.

BPD on June 18, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Do you think Obama is being too careful? Or even that he is helping Ahmadinejad by being cautious?

Maybe Barack figures that he and Hugo and Mahmoud had all better hang together least they hang separately.

MB4 on June 18, 2009 at 10:58 PM

What a disaster this Administration is.

ronsfi on June 18, 2009 at 11:00 PM

And Mousavi has 241 dead US Marines on his scorecard.

absolutely true, he was so important to Ruhollah Khomeini that he made him his foreign minister; he is the one who launched Iran’s chemical and biological weapons program, he was the driving force behind the creation of the so called “spearhead against the devil” (read Israel) aka hizbullah. He is using the elite of Tehran (the only place in Iran where the protests seem to be taking place) to push out Ahmadinejad for his own reasons, not to create a democracy but to remake Iran’s international image, gain economic support while pursuing the same goals as the crazy mullahs are pursuing today – regional dominance and islamist domination as far as the eye can see, with the aid of nuclear weapons. Not exactly a positive “regime change”.

runner on June 18, 2009 at 11:02 PM

It seems Mousavi’s the “Obama of Iran” in more ways than one.

pfamis on June 18, 2009 at 11:06 PM

Ahmadinejad is the Bush of Iran. And Mousavi is the Obama of Iran…

Obama is the Chamberlain of America. And -to be determined later- is the Churchill of America…

Obama is the King George III of America. And -to be determined later- is the George Washington of America…

Obama is the Al Capone of America. And -to be determined later- is the Eliot Ness of America…

Obama is the Vladimir Lenin of America. And -to be determined later- is the Ayn Rand of America…

The potential list is almost endless.

MB4 on June 18, 2009 at 11:08 PM

Well, if Mousavi’s the Obama of Iran, the protesters should all go home and let Ahmadinejad have his victory.

I’m kidding, of course.

nickj116 on June 18, 2009 at 11:09 PM

Second look at the Obama/Mousavi comparison. Here’s just a quick scorecard:

B. Hussein Obama – Mir Hossein Mousavi
- Both seem to loathe what America has stood for
- Both have hatred/disgust for the Bush Administration
- Both seem to be no friend to Israel
- Both seem to be o.k. with Iran going nuclear
- Both seem to have a soft spot for terrorists
- Both will lead very authoritarian regimes

…feel free to play along at home. There’s plenty more where those came from.

red winger on June 18, 2009 at 11:10 PM

Ahmadinejad is the Bush of Iran. And Mousavi is the Obama of Iran…

I agree that he’s just mimicking what he thinks Americans and the West want to hear based on media projections and polls.

I think the bigger picture in Iran that hasn’t been yet explored is why there was such a huge turnout for Mousavi, what his election platform was about and why he garnered such support. That I think would be a better barometer of what evolution is taking place among the people.

Texas Gal on June 18, 2009 at 11:11 PM

Why the bastard wasn’t better advised is beyond my comprehension.

highhopes on June 18, 2009 at 10:42 PM

That’s the sound of a Clinton knifing someone in the back. She didn’t tell him not to bow to a king. She didn’t tell him not to have a picture made to send to the middle east that prominently featured the soles of his shoes. Need I go on? I really think Hillary wants to run on the “You shoulda picked me” ticket in 2012.

Kafir on June 18, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Ahmadinejad is the Bush of Iran. And Mousavi is the Obama of Iran…

Bush approves TARP (misled, I think by Obama stooges already in place), Obama approves the Stimulus package.
Bush fires some AGs, Obama fires some IGs.
Bush protects the unborn and embryos, Obama destroys them.

Ahmadinejad gets the Nuke program underway, Mousavi presses the button.

I got it, truer words never spoken.

journeyintothewhirlwind on June 18, 2009 at 11:12 PM

Well, if Mousavi’s the Obama of Iran, the protesters should all go home and let Ahmadinejad have his victory.

I’m kidding, of course.

nickj116 on June 18, 2009 at 11:09 PM

Good point. If Mousavi is the Obama of Iran, he would surrender and give a motivational speech. Yes we can.

BPD on June 18, 2009 at 11:13 PM

MM: Obama has said that there is no difference between Ahmadinejad and Mousavi. Does he like it himself [when someone is] saying that there is no difference between Obama and [George W.] Bush? Ahmadinejad is the Bush of Iran. And Mousavi is the Obama of Iran…

Exit question: How much of this is serious and how much hot air aimed at winning western support in the short term?

Yeah, well…I guess that depends on your definition of “western support”, doesn’t it? And he’s losing ground very quickly with this westerner.

Jaibones on June 18, 2009 at 11:14 PM

If they only understood that Bush represents individualism and freedom, and Obama the exact opposite. That Bush would be supporting their movement in every way, and Obama, well, not so much.

Can’t expect folks in a third-world tyrannical state to understand the concept of soft fascism.

John the Libertarian on June 18, 2009 at 11:19 PM

Iran under Ahmadinejad is pretty much what Barry would like to see in America. He has probably shed a few tears in his alone time for what might have been.

snaggletoothie on June 18, 2009 at 11:20 PM

Ahmadinejad is the Bush of Iran. And Mousavi is the Obama of Iran…
Wrong answer!

Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Ditto

onlineanalyst on June 18, 2009 at 11:27 PM

MM: Obama has said that there is no difference between Ahmadinejad and Mousavi. Does he like it himself [when someone is] saying that there is no difference between Obama and [George W.] Bush? Ahmadinejad is the Bush of Iran. And Mousavi is the Obama of Iran…

You know what:

Iran is a nation held hostage by a small clerical elite that is isolating and repressing its people, and denying them basic liberties and human rights. The Iranian regime sponsors terrorists and is actively working to expand its influence in the region. (…) as we confront Iran’s nuclear weapons ambitions, we’re also reaching out to the Iranian people to support their desire to be free; to build a free, democratic, and transparent society.

To support the Iranian people’s efforts to win their own freedom, my administration is requesting $75 million in emergency funds to support democracy in Iran. This is more than a fourfold increase over current levels of funding. These new funds will allow us to expand radio and television broadcasts into Iran (…) so Iranians can organize and challenge the repressive policies of the clerical regime(…) By supporting democratic change in Iran, we will hasten the day when the people of Iran can determine their own future and be free to choose their own leaders. Freedom in the Middle East requires freedom for the Iranian people, and America looks forward to the day when our nation can be the closest of friends with a free and democratic Iran.

Signed

W

We would rather you just say thank you.

broker1 on June 18, 2009 at 11:36 PM

Second look at the Obama/Mousavi comparison. Here’s just a quick scorecard:

B. Hussein Obama – Mir Hossein Mousavi
- Both seem to loathe what America has stood for
- Both have hatred/disgust for the Bush Administration
- Both seem to be no friend to Israel
- Both seem to be o.k. with Iran going nuclear
- Both seem to have a soft spot for terrorists
- Both will lead very authoritarian regimes

…feel free to play along at home. There’s plenty more where those came from.

red winger on June 18, 2009 at 11:10 PM

You need to call Milton Bradley Co….this could be big!

redwhiteblue on June 18, 2009 at 11:36 PM

Note to Barry: If a guy’s supporters are known for chanting “Death to the dictator” about Ahmadinejad…

AP

Timeout. I just read some opinion by an Iranian lady – was it the dolly actress? — saying that the “death to the dictator” chant was about Khamenei, not dinnerjacket.

Jaibones on June 18, 2009 at 11:38 PM

10:55 pm: House to vote on Iran resolution tomorrow.

According to CQ, the House will vote tomorrow on a bipartisan resolution expressing support for Iranian dissidents who have been demonstrating since the presidential election last week.

House Foreign Affairs Chairman Howard Berman (D-Calif.) joined with Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) on a resolution condemning the violence against the protesters, the suppression of communication technologies, and affirming “the universality of individual rights.”

This measure is almost guaranteed to pass–probably with an overwhelming number of votes–which will put the Congress directly at odds with the White House in responding to the crisis in Iran.
- Naic

MB4 on June 18, 2009 at 11:42 PM

Mousavi…such a nice boy…he used to mow my lawn.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1905477,00.html?xid=rss-world-cnn

“…Mousavi, Prime Minister from 1981 to 1989, almost certainly had a hand in the planning of the Iranian-backed truck-bombing attacks on the U.S. embassy in April 1983 and the Marine barracks in October of that same year. Mousavi, as my Lebanese contact reminded me, dealt directly with Imad Mughniyah, the man largely held responsible for both attacks. (Mughniyah was assassinated in Damascus last year.) The Lebanese said Mughniyah had told him over and over that he, Mughniyah, got along well with Mousavi and trusted him completely.

When Mousavi was Prime Minister, he oversaw an office that ran operatives abroad, from Lebanon to Kuwait to Iraq. This was the heyday of Khomeini’s theocratic vision, when Iran thought it really could export its revolution across the Middle East, providing money and arms to anyone who claimed he could upend the old order. Mousavi was not only swept up into this delusion but also actively pursued it.

It was Mousavi who appointed Iran’s ambassador to Damascus, Ali Akbar Mohtashemi-pur, the Iranian caught red-handed planning the Marine-barracks bombing. Mohtashemi-pur also coordinated the hostage-taking in Lebanon. As a reward, Mousavi gave him the Interior Ministry, where Mohtashemi-pur went on to crack down on what was left of democracy in Iran.

Django on June 18, 2009 at 11:43 PM

Ahmadinejad has bankrupted Iran by taking all the money and using it to buy the support of the poor and uneducated. Does that sound like Bush policies or Obama policies. This campaign in Iran hinged on the resultant pain for all the people of these failed socialist policies. It is not surprising that Obama does not see a need to support advocates of real economic as well as government reform.

Now if socialists were revolting against capitalists, he might be more vocal.

KW64 on June 18, 2009 at 11:45 PM

Well, at least his last name isn’t “Palin.”

Django on June 18, 2009 at 11:46 PM

The one thing O doesn’t understand is we sacrifice our blood for the people who what freedom and don’t ask for anything in return. Most of the people in the streets are under 30 and have no real understanding of 1979 or 1983. I do not know if we should support Mousavi but I do know we should support the people as well as educate them about us and what we stand for. This is where O is failing. We may have a chance for a coup with a positive outcome and that is all we can ask for but O is flunking Foreign Policy 101.

Clyde5445 on June 18, 2009 at 11:51 PM

Another interesting quote from the interview:

MM: We [Iranians] are a bit unfortunate. When we had our Obama [meaning President Khatami], that was the time of President Bush in the United States. Now that [the United States] has Obama, we have our Bush here [in Iran]. In order to resolve the problems between the two countries, we should have two Obamas on the two sides. It doesn’t mean that everything depends on these two people, but this is one of the main factors.

M_Laveau on June 18, 2009 at 11:54 PM

I think the bigger picture in Iran that hasn’t been yet explored is why there was such a huge turnout for Mousavi, what his election platform was about and why he garnered such support. That I think would be a better barometer of what evolution is taking place among the people.

Texas Gal on June 18, 2009 at 11:11 PM

Good point. I suspect the protest movement may be using him as the stalking horse to overturn the whole clerical administrative apparatus. I don’t think this is about the man or his platforms but rather an expression of hate for Ahmadinejad (who seems to be despised in a uniform manner), and the whole corrupt mullah driven system.

a capella on June 18, 2009 at 11:56 PM

I could be wrong, but I think the entire regime is closer to total collapse then most people realize.

B Man on June 18, 2009 at 11:57 PM

Funny that he bashes on Bush so much, but if Bush were in power, you know he’d be outspoken in support of the protesters, and even now their best allies in the States are conservatives.

p40tiger on June 19, 2009 at 12:00 AM

Maybe he is so silent because his day is coming on July 4th when as many or more will be gathering in tea parties protesting his administration handling of the ecomomic problems and his socialist agenda. Maybe he is worried that anything he says will make it worse for him, or saying nothing is safer for him. It is always about him if anyone has noticed. I hear he has been having trouble sleeping lately.

Just curious. Does anyone know why a hospital in Honolulu in 1961 would issue a Certificate of Live Birth instead of a Birth Certificate?

Franklyn on June 19, 2009 at 12:01 AM

Geez people, can’t a man just eat a waffle in peace?

NoLeftTurn on June 19, 2009 at 12:01 AM

Mughniyah, got along well with Mousavi and trusted him completely.

Imad Mughniyah, the man who was on the hit list of every western intelligence agency, and considered one of the worst terrorists on the planet. When his car seat fortuitously exploded under him last year, many, many people across the globe breathed a sigh of relief. Nice to know what friends this Mousavi character keeps.

runner on June 19, 2009 at 12:02 AM

I should have said this in my first post but: Obama has really shown his true colors this week re: Iran.

He’s been defending Iran for months, and just recently said they should be able to pursue nuclear power.
I mean how much more supportive can he be of the regime?
And now with this historic uprising….him being nagged by Hillary and Biden to speak and refusing to.
The guy is on the regime’s side. It should be clear to most people by now.

B Man on June 19, 2009 at 12:07 AM

Sorry Iranians, you all look alike to Barry.

GarandFan on June 19, 2009 at 12:07 AM

Mousavi is just as bad as Dinner Jacket. I don’t think it would be wise for Obama to support the protestors because that could be construed as supporting Mousavi. But he could at least say that he supports fair elections…or maybe that would sound too hypocrticial.
We’re too naive if we think that all the protestors care about free and fair elections. Sure there are the young people who haven’t become cynical or involved in the political climate in Iran. But I’ll bet most of the protestors are Mousavi supporters who, if he comes to power, will be just as intloerant.
I’ve heard commentators compare this to Poland and Lech Walesa or the Hungarian uprising. Personally..I have a feeling this is more like Fidel and Che.

Deanna on June 19, 2009 at 12:10 AM

Champion the Persian people, oaf.

Before it’s all over… and the ayatollahs clamp down with Death again.

profitsbeard on June 18, 2009 at 10:43 PM

“The sooner, the better, because then I’ll be the sole center of the universe, again” –TOTUS, a.k.a. Cipher/Flyswatter in Chief

Schadenfreude on June 19, 2009 at 12:11 AM

Just curious. Does anyone know why a hospital in Honolulu in 1961 would issue a Certificate of Live Birth instead of a Birth Certificate?

Franklyn on June 19, 2009 at 12:01 AM

I think that is called a runner-up prize. You get that if you don’t qualify for the real thing.

MB4 on June 19, 2009 at 12:11 AM

Ahh, sorry, profitsbeard, that should have been a quote – remdied, here

Champion the Persian people, oaf.

Before it’s all over… and the ayatollahs clamp down with Death again.

profitsbeard on June 18, 2009 at 10:43 PM

“The sooner, the better, because then I’ll be the sole center of the universe, again” –TOTUS, a.k.a. Cipher/Flyswatter in Chief

Schadenfreude on June 19, 2009 at 12:11 AM

Mousie the Obama of Iran? That would make Mousie worse than Ahmenjihad the W in my book. Of course without the moolahs a nuklier Iran becomes much more palatable to the neighbors. None of it bodes well for us. I’d like to see the Rafsanjani forces get some too. I wsh em all luck! (Those anti missles in place yet?)

Reality Check on June 19, 2009 at 12:13 AM

Good point. I suspect the protest movement may be using him as the stalking horse to overturn the whole clerical administrative apparatus. I don’t think this is about the man or his platforms but rather an expression of hate for Ahmadinejad (who seems to be despised in a uniform manner), and the whole corrupt mullah driven system.

a capella on June 18, 2009 at 11:56 PM

And I see it just the opposite. I think the man is using the protestors to gain power. And once he has it he will end up being more of the same or worse. Kind of like a certain President who promised hope and change.

Deanna on June 19, 2009 at 12:13 AM

Um eh…

he had me until

And Mousavi is the Obama of Iran…

Savrielle on June 19, 2009 at 12:19 AM

The spokesman is simply confused. It is Obama who is Ahmadenejad of the USA and Bush is one who was promoting freedom around the world. Otherwise he is right to be angry about Obama.

finallyhere on June 18, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Mousavi actually said this himself on the CBS evening news before the election and his wife called herself like Michelle Obama. Someone with the Mousavi campaign also compared the election to ours…Ahmadinejad being the old school way etc. I remember my dad got pissed off because he did insinuate Ahmadinejad was like the GOP in our election and Mousavi supporters were the youth and change.

fastestslug on June 19, 2009 at 12:27 AM

Good point. I suspect the protest movement may be using him as the stalking horse to overturn the whole clerical administrative apparatus. I don’t think this is about the man or his platforms but rather an expression of hate for Ahmadinejad (who seems to be despised in a uniform manner), and the whole corrupt mullah driven system.

a capella on June 18, 2009 at 11:56 PM

Based on some things I’ve read since this erupted, I think his platform was about the economic situation.. ie unemployment and the image of Iran on the international stage with a lunitic as their face.

And I see it just the opposite. I think the man is using the protestors to gain power. And once he has it he will end up being more of the same or worse. Kind of like a certain President who promised hope and change.

Deanna on June 19, 2009 at 12:13 AM

And I think you are probably right, at least that’s my gut feeling. I think he’s more of the same but I think also that if he should turn on his promise to the people now supporting him, that will be another positive step in the evolution. And I use that word because I agree with Kissinger on that. I’d just like to know what he promised them to get them to turn out like this.

Texas Gal on June 19, 2009 at 12:38 AM

Obama is dangerous, because his ego is so big, he cannot handle any negative assessment. He would rather lead the world to Hell than admit he has been wrong on substantive issues.
Getting tough on Iran would be something President Bush would do, and Obama’s knee jerk reaction to anything Bush is ‘do the opposite’.
President Obama is the worst kind of idiot-one who will never admit to failure.

Doug on June 19, 2009 at 12:43 AM

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