Video: Oh look, another viral video involving police and tasers
posted at 6:44 pm on June 17, 2009 by Allahpundit
So prized are new additions to this niche online that you’ll actually hear the cameraman squeal about how he can’t wait to upload the footage to YouTube. The question: What’s a cop, or team of cops, to do when they can’t force a drunk’s arms behind his back? One tasing doesn’t do it, a second tasing doesn’t do it, and then, around 40 seconds in, the fists start to fly.
Mick Taylor, chairman of Nottinghamshire Police Federation, said he recognised some members of the public would be shocked by the footage.
But he added: ‘They aren’t privy to what training we have in such situations. What the taser is used for is preventing long struggles.
‘You give an instruction. If they fail to comply you discharge the taser. If that doesn’t have the desired effect it’s normal practice to discharge it again.
‘With regards to the punches, they seem to be in the area of the shoulder. When you’re not getting compliance you apply pressure to certain parts of the body.’
Exit question for our cop readers: Aside from cases of self-defense, is it ever appropriate to punch a suspect? Even if we give the office here the benefit of the doubt and assume he was punching him in the shoulder to get his arm to relax, is that proper? If not, what’s the alternative — call for backup and wait for a whole new squad of guys to arrive and have eight men on his arm? Content warning.
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So maybe the question is, what do you think?
Upstater85 on June 17, 2009 at 9:00 PM
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I responded to the “queston at hand” and I also repsonded to a comment that he made that was irrelevant. That you lack the neurons to understand is not my concern.
Blake on June 17, 2009 at 9:01 PM
How many of you have ever studied Martial Arts or engaged in a combat sport like wrestling?
Any wrestler can tell you it’s not easy getting a resisting person’s arm behind their back if they don’t want it there.
I’ve studied various martial arts from Tae Kwon Do, Ju-jitsu (both Brazilian and Japanese), Aikido and Hapkido and I can tell you somebody with even a little training on how to resist can give an officer all they can handle.
I’m constantly amazed at people who watch a police struggle unsuccessfully with a single suspect and laugh about how hard it is for the lone cop to get control.
Yeah, well you try it sometime, see how easy it is.
A very determined subject can give 2 or 3 officers or more successful, prolonged resistance. It happens all the time. And of course people who don’t understand the first thing about police work will watch this go “They should have had that guy down and cuffed in about 5 seconds. What’s the problem?”
Sure they could. They could shoot you, pull their flashlights out and smash you on the head with it, etc. etc.
They have escalation of force procedures to follow though, and sometimes they will try several times with lower types of force to see if they can get it to work.
And all the audience will see is – ‘It’s not working’. They’ll try 3 or 4 times, then move on to the next procedure and try that several times.
The premise of the original post seems to be they resorted to the taser unneccesarily. That’s not the case.
I’m sick and tired of hearing people that have never tried it talk about how ‘easy’ it is to wrestle a fiercely resisting person’s hands behind their back and cuff them who have never tried that even once in their lives.
It’s not as easy as you are trying to make it sound.
manofaiki on June 17, 2009 at 9:04 PM
The jury heard all the evidence and saw the demeanor of the witnesses when they testified. They were instructed on the law. I defer to the jury.
Blake on June 17, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Oh come on, for some one that doesn’t mind implying that someone lacks neurons, I’d expect a more balls to the wall answer.
No leanings? How’d you feel about OJ?
Upstater85 on June 17, 2009 at 9:07 PM
Yours was a thoughtful, level-headed post amidst a torrent of comments that were decidedly not. Thank you (and all the other folks who did likewise) for that.
If that post is typical of your style, I hope you comment often.
Harpazo on June 17, 2009 at 9:08 PM
I was expecting Pink Floyd to break out any second.
“We don’t need no education…..”
Hummer53 on June 17, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Looks good to me. Failure to comply, resistance, tazer, passive resistance (holding arms and hands close to body), more Tazer and more officers to gain control. Nothing to see here, move on.
federale86 on June 17, 2009 at 9:10 PM
What makes you say that?
can only imagine…thats correct. Its only your imagination.
I can’t even guess what you mean by the second bolded part. It sounds like a bumper sticker or a tee shirt slogan to me.
What does it mean? Who do or would you depend on for protection from criminals?
Itchee Dryback on June 17, 2009 at 9:14 PM
Maybe for the NRA.
Upstater85 on June 17, 2009 at 9:18 PM
One, who’s implying?
Two, my answer stands. The jury heard all the evidence — not you or me. As to OJ, most people saw a good chunk of the trial on television or read the transcripts and unlike the jury, had the neurons to understand the evidence.
Blake on June 17, 2009 at 9:19 PM
This isn’t the first time you’ve illustrated gay sex fantasies. Please, don’t share any more.
MadisonConservative on June 17, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Claiming?
Well, this (the previous speeding case) does have some publicity. No, it isn’t nationwide, but I’d assume that the amount of publicity doesn’t have a direct correlation to the correctness of the ruling.
So what happens in the future when a neuronless jury sees such a case? We just wing it?
Upstater85 on June 17, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Says the guy with the severe neuropeptide deficiency, as well as a malformed medulla oblongata.
MadisonConservative on June 17, 2009 at 9:26 PM
When a perp is resisting, all bets are off, you do what
you have to do to get compliance. Best not to punch because it
looks bad to civilians, that’s why MMA style training is so popular with LEO’s, you want to have short tight movements when involved, not looping overhand punches. Bottom line what really matters is the word justification, but won’t go much into that. Membership has its privileges.
ac1 on June 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Are you fucking kidding me?
What fantasy world do you live in?
thebronze on June 17, 2009 at 9:31 PM
It’s what you do best you obsequious cojones sucking turd. If I stick around it will be just to keep b!tch slapping you and your sockpuppets around you weasel.
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 9:31 PM
The question at hand was “What do you tell the families of the victims?” and you have not responded to it at all.
Pablo on June 17, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Great point and spot on. You never know what someone is capable of, or if this individual had warrants and was looking at 15 years when they get him in, what if he
was a parole violator and is heading to hard time, seen
it before, people fight, and fight hard to avoid going back. Drugs too give people super human resistance to
pain.
ac1 on June 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM
thebronze
Read the Allahpundit’s post, then comment.
ac1 on June 17, 2009 at 9:40 PM
Oh and you asked what fantasy world I was living in?
Its called New York City.
ac1 on June 17, 2009 at 9:44 PM
I think you hit a nerve.
ulyses on June 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM
Is this one of your new Sockpuppets Maddison? I’ll be watching to out you, you Freddy Mercury looking village people freak.
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 10:01 PM
You fuckin* idiot douchnozzle. Go soak your fat head until you can read.
Jaibones on June 17, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Gay sex fantasies and a crush, too? Sorry bud, but I don’t swing that way. Especially not with people who have to push their preferences in your face.
MadisonConservative on June 17, 2009 at 10:52 PM
What the heck is wrong with you guys tonight?! Jeez, things got ugly in here.
Seriously, what’s wrong? Especially BigOldDog and MadCon. Unless I missed something and you two became mortal enemies at some point while I wasn’t watching, you both seem terribly out of character here.
aero on June 17, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Not really. I’m as rambunctious as ever, and TBOD is as useless as ever. He’s hated this site for a while but refuses to leave because he likes attention.
MadisonConservative on June 17, 2009 at 10:59 PM
I can recall times that you have gotten a bit obnoxious, but I don’t recall TBOD being like this until recently. He’s been here a long time, and hasn’t always been this angry and confrontational. Maybe I just haven’t been paying enough attention.
aero on June 17, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Don’t worry. He’ll continue to be here a long time since he hasn’t got the balls either to leave or to really go far enough to get himself banned. There are some very angry, very bitter people on this site, and their hostility that was first aimed at true RINOs like McCain is now aimed at anyone who disagrees with them on even one issue.
MadisonConservative on June 17, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Justified or not, he’s among the group of people that have been getting upset with AP for talking about posters on twitter… I think he’s also part of the group that wants AP to post more positive Palin threads. And obviously more Iran threads.
Dunno what the solution is here…
Upstater85 on June 17, 2009 at 11:05 PM
I feel sorry for who is moderating here. This is just a blog site. Keep your personal feelings at home. I have been coming to this web site for a long time. BOD I agree with your comments most times but when a cop vid shows up you seem to loose your cookies.
feedercattle on June 17, 2009 at 11:08 PM
The other day, somebody called you the abscess on the ass of HotAir. Boy, they had you pegged!
Blake on June 17, 2009 at 11:09 PM
I certainly don’t have the balls to go around looking like Freddy Mercury I’ll tell you that right now. At least tell us your in a Queen tribute band or something. I’d hate to think you choose to look like that by choice – shiver – !
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:11 PM
How many more do people want?
MadisonConservative on June 17, 2009 at 11:11 PM
I agree that there have been plenty of Iran threads.
I guess I was thinking about the Palin threads. They really seem to hit a nerve. I don’t mind them – except when people go over the top.
Upstater85 on June 17, 2009 at 11:13 PM
I don’t like cops much, they ticket me lots. But I don’t hate them? Can’t I have an opinion?
feedercattle on June 17, 2009 at 11:13 PM
Okay, I think I’ve figured out that you’re referring to the pic on my Twitter profile, which is of Robert Carlyle, from the poster of the movie Trainspotting, you witless cretin.
The other day, you called someone else a troll. That was rich.
MadisonConservative on June 17, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Sure :)
Upstater85 on June 17, 2009 at 11:14 PM
If anything they were too timid about getting him under control and ending the show. Cuff ‘em, stuff ‘em, and quit giving the other drunks something to watch. As it was they hung around too long and attracted a crowd to the blue light disco.
The suspect clearly met the elements of resisting arrest in my jurisdiction. His arm movements were intentional to disrupt the officers’ attempts at control, including rolling up with his hands under his body. There were also a couple of kicks at the officers. The use of a strike to one of the large bundles of nerves in his arms in order to gain control is legit.
Yelling “Taser, Taser, Taser!” prior to pulling the trigger is taught as part of the Taser training program. The main reason is to warn off other officers so they don’t catch a probe. Speaking of which, it appeared obvious to me that one of the probes must have broken off during the time between the first and second Taser deployment. If that happens, you’re geting a sharp jolt and some pain, but not the motor disruption.
Again, as with many of these videos, my experienced eye sees a lot of things that the peanut gallery missed. What turns a lot of these videos into an Internet sensation is the officer’s failure to control the situation quickly at the beginning. This video is a prime example of that. It should have been over and done with in 35 seconds.
The reason is that the officers’ response was too tentative. Despite the cries of police brutality from the ignorant jackasses in the crowd (and in this thread) the cops really didn’t want to hurt the guy and they let that concern put themselves at risk when they let the crowd get so close to their scene. That scene could have turned really ugly as the crowd grew. If the other patrol cars hadn’t come screaming up when they did, it might have gotten bad fast.
Here’s the thing, AP: I don’t know if you’ve got a chip on your shoulder when it comes to cops or not. I don’t see your posts, including this one, as being blatent cop bashing, at least not as I understand it on Glocktalk.com or AR15.com.
The main problem I see is that when you post these things, it brings a lot of the nuts out in the comments section. I’m glad you find it entertaining and think it’s worth it for your viewer count or whatever, but it’s kind of run it’s course. A video will be posted. Outrage will be expressed by all the ignorati who’ve never had to deal with a drunk, unreasonable, or mentally disturbed person. A couple of cops will explain why things happened the way that they did and then they’ll be subjected to abuse and called Fascists and everything else.
My other problem is at this point in this ongoing series of use of force videos is that you seem to be perfectly willing to remain intentionally ignorant when it comes to police procedures. You’ve posted so many of these things and gotten so much feedback on the ins and outs of use of force (provided you bother to read all of the thread replys and don’t just light a fire and walk away after the first couple of pages) that you ought to be getting halfway decent at recognizing legitimate use of force and wouldn’t post something as lame as this video and then end it with the question of whether or not the police can strike somebody absent self- defense. The answer, btw, is “Absolutely they can.”
If you haven’t bothered to at least educate yourself a little on the principles of the use of force by doing a few Google searches on the issue, then it does look like you’re just getting some passive- aggressive licks in on the cops by starting a fire and leaving it to burn in the comments. I’ll leave the appropriate “beta male” comments to you.
You’ve posted so many of these things that you’ve put yourself in the position of being a public “police critic” whether or not you want the title. Fine. Police deserve to be criticized as much as any other group of folks. But if your going to do it, at least do your readers and the men and women you intend to criticize the due diligence of learning what the hell you’re talking about. get out of the house and take a “Citizen’s Police Academy” course with your local PD. Do a ride along or two. At least do the Google searches.
Barring that, you could at least throw in a “good police work” story and/ or video every once in a while. For balance.
Dukeboy01 on June 17, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Only if you state it emphatically and insult at least one person you disagree with. That’s the HotAir way!
MadisonConservative on June 17, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Jeez Dukeboy01 do you want a pat on the shoulder?
feedercattle on June 17, 2009 at 11:18 PM
I have people in my company that are dim wits, it doesn’t affect me.
feedercattle on June 17, 2009 at 11:19 PM
You’re wasting your time on these morons. Although you have explained the facts very thoroughly.
csdeven on June 17, 2009 at 11:20 PM
I only wish I were that eloquent! Kudos to whomever
That’s what happens when Freddy Mercury AKA wishes a firey car death upon you and then waits until he thinks you’re gone to take a swipe at you. He went to the AP school of passive/aggressive behavior.
I have a problem with phonies who rip people behind their back to a select audience rather than having the balls to do it where they can respond. An no, AP did not rip me on Twitter but he has ripped others. I could care less about Palin – seriously. I do get tired of AP bashing her into the ground. He’s like an Alinsky-ite. He picks a target and bashes it into the ground. Plain. Fred. Rush. Beck. Coulter. Etc. And while I have an account here I intend to point it out.
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Your buyfriend?
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:23 PM
Fair enough. I have nothing against Palin – so far. I like many of the things she stands for. That said, for her posts in particular, do you think that some people want HA to be a pro-Palin site? Only the positive and never the negative. I’ve both read and participated in some of the comments. Some people can’t handle any dissent of Palin. I find this unfortunate, because I don’t think Palin is this way herself.
Upstater85 on June 17, 2009 at 11:23 PM
I’m starting to think you are AP….
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:24 PM
DRAMA!!!!!
Nonfactor on June 17, 2009 at 11:24 PM
If I needed people to like me I would have become a fireman. What I want is for AP take the time to educate himself on an issue he chooses to constantly bring up. We’ll see if he takes me up on it or we’ll know for sure in short order that he personally does have a chip on his shoulder when it comes to cops and chooses to express it in passive- aggressive manner instead of having the stones to be as upfront about it as you seem to be.
Dukeboy01 on June 17, 2009 at 11:25 PM
I only speak for myself. This tactic has been going on for years now. Once I point this out you will begin to notice it I bet. Notice how the Left (Kerry, Obama, etc.) will almost always get the benefit of any doubt and the Right doesn’t.
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:26 PM
So your only reasons for staying here are to imply that I’m gay (while you lasciviously type out your man-on-man wet dreams) and to tell the host of the site that you don’t like his content.
As long as you’re not trolling or anything.
MadisonConservative on June 17, 2009 at 11:26 PM
My only purpose now is to make your time here as unpleasant and unproductive as possible you little sniveling worm becuase you asked for it. You begged me to leave you here in a message you sent me on Twitter after you wished me dead in a fiery car crash. I honored your request. You did’t, so it’s on Freddy.
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:28 PM
No, I’ve started noticing, but I also think we could use it for our own good. Won’t criticism make us stronger? Further, I
enjoyget more out of the comments than some of the posts… Yeah, kind of pathetic, but I like seeing what other people aside from AP and Ed are thinking. Sometimes, I’m horrified, but more than often I get, well, “stimulated.”Upstater85 on June 17, 2009 at 11:29 PM
But look on the bright side. Their lower wattage use is saving the planet by reducing the carbon emissions of energy production that causes global warming. So those dim wits benefit us all.
Loxodonta on June 17, 2009 at 11:30 PM
The problem lies in the fact that, as any person on this site is aware, Palin does not exactly get a dearth of positive articles written about her outside of conservative publications. It’s not exactly easy to comment on positive Palin pieces when they’re nowhere to be found. However, when one decides to debate the merits of what does exist, some people seem to think that if the commentary isn’t searing, fire-breathing rebuke of the author of the article, that it’s outright agreement. Palin took a lot of heat, and a lot of people are justifiably sore about it, and the fact that it continues. However, they’ve become so polarized on the issue that they won’t allow for anything except for Palin-love. It’s a little too familiar to the attitude some paid to our current dunce-in-chief, which is a shame, since she’s nothing like him.
MadisonConservative on June 17, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Pointing it out is part of the debate. Running over to Twitter to chirp about people pointing it out isn’t. It’s cheap and cowardly.
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:31 PM
Was he asking you? No, Mind your own business Mary. If he wants your opinion he’ll ask for it. That’s part of your problem you cow tipping hick. You can’t mind your own GD business. That’s what got you started down this road in the first place.
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Good points. It happens in the Green Rooms, but people here could try writing more positives…
Yeah, I don’t know if I’d twitter about those you are frustrated with. It’s somewhat passive agressive, but isn’t this part of AP’s (current) flawed personality? Heck, I’m sure you guys could point out many flaws from my posts… I guess, for the moment, I’m not going to get too bothered by it -especially since the stuff I saw on twitter was a little inflammatory (on the part of the scorned one).
Upstater85 on June 17, 2009 at 11:36 PM
I think you and Blake should get together and have a drink, and trade stories of people you “beat down” on the internet with your tough-guy attitudes. You can compare index fingers to see whose was stronger from banging on your keyboards with rage-filled might.
MadisonConservative on June 17, 2009 at 11:37 PM
You don’t have his megaphone.
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:37 PM
Or what?
MadisonConservative on June 17, 2009 at 11:38 PM
Oh Mary, that’s so clever and witty. You truly have a sharp mind and keen intellect. Have fun with Bessy tonight and Go Packers!
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Bessy? You’re digging on Wisconsin now? Nice.
MadisonConservative on June 17, 2009 at 11:40 PM
ooooh…. Not the “or what” comeback. Anything but the, “or what” comeback. I have no defense for the, “Or what” comeback…
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:42 PM
He’s trying, but there is only so much going on in grannys basement this time of night.
csdeven on June 17, 2009 at 11:42 PM
No. No, it isn’t. Not even a little bit.
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:42 PM
It might have been me. Someone called me a troll recently. I thought it was comical. Then I got irritated because no one defended me. LOL!
aero on June 17, 2009 at 11:44 PM
Ya think Momma put NetNanny on his computer so he can’t even surf porn down there? Maybe that’s why he always here. It’s all that can get through the NetNanny filter…. Maybe I can slip her a C-note to add HA to the blocked list?
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:45 PM
Jenfidel?
Upstater85 on June 17, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Hey MadisonConservative, I’ll tell you what I am willing to do. I am willing to give you one last chance to honor your own Twitter request. Ignore me and my posts and I will do the same for you. This time, try to actually keep your word as I kept mine.
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:48 PM
You’re not on my list.
Loxodonta on June 17, 2009 at 11:49 PM
Naw….he’d just turn on the waterworks and granny would hold him to her bosom and tell him everything is gonna be OK.
csdeven on June 17, 2009 at 11:49 PM
I think it was Siobhan he was referring to.
May I offer my posthumous ups? “Back off of aero, or I shall smite thee with fists of fury!!!”
MadisonConservative on June 17, 2009 at 11:49 PM
You actually have to accept. I’ll assume silence is a rejection of the offer.
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:52 PM
No crying and whining about csdeven not minding their own business, I see. Huh.
I put that Twitter request up a while ago, and you broke it shortly after, so cut the crap. You’ve stated your entire intent for staying at this site, and it’s amusing. Keep on keepin’ on. Trolls like you gotta do what trolls gotta do. I suggest you invite csdeven to your drink with Blake. You can sit around and make cracks about Jeri Thompson’s looks.
MadisonConservative on June 17, 2009 at 11:54 PM
You want to be added to the Nancy Pelosi Scarf Photo mailing list?
Upstater85 on June 17, 2009 at 11:54 PM
Are you looking for a kitten’s stocking?
Loxodonta on June 17, 2009 at 11:55 PM
Hehe
Upstater85 on June 17, 2009 at 11:56 PM
I’ll take that as a no you lying sack of sh!t. I’ve ignored you until tonight when you stepped right back into it with me you fruitcake.
A bit of advice, if you don’t want people to think you are one of the Village people, don’t have an avatar like that. You’re libel to throw off everybody’s GADAR….
TheBigOldDog on June 17, 2009 at 11:58 PM
Is it me, or has there been a full moon at Hot Air the last couple of days?
Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 12:00 AM
So NOW What’s Going on in Iran? Michael Ledeen
TheBigOldDog on June 18, 2009 at 12:00 AM
*howl*
Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 12:01 AM
TheBigOldDog on June 18, 2009 at 12:02 AM
TheBigOldDog on June 18, 2009 at 12:03 AM
A bit of advice: If you see gays where there are none, and type out gay fantasies, you need to re-evaluate your lifestyle.
MadisonConservative on June 18, 2009 at 12:04 AM
I haven’t noticed it with you much, Claude, but there have been arguments, trolling, and troll accusations running rampantly around this place. Almost as well as you do on all four legs, Mr. Rains.
Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 12:05 AM
I don’t remember who called me a troll or why. I assume it was a new commenter from this last registration, or I would hope they’d recognize my screen name. I waste enough freakin’ time here that I’d think I have at least earned enough recognition by now not to be called a troll.
Though MadCon is right that the conservopuritanism has gotten so out of hand here lately that all I would have had to do was disagree on one issue and someone would have thrown me out of the Incredible Shrinking Conservative Tent.
aero on June 18, 2009 at 12:07 AM
Awwwww. It’s otay. I called granny and she’ll be down shortly to give you a drink of waawaa and tuck you in. And she promises to leave your Village People night light on.
csdeven on June 18, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Do me a favor will you Freddy, take the time to actually come up with a good shot. Don’t rush it. Think about it for a while. Type it out an read it a few times to make sure it is good before you hut submit. Otherwise, you’re just wasting everybody’s time. I dunno, buy a insult book or something. Even steal some from another site. Whatever it takes okay? Thanks Buddy! Have a good night. I won’t be driving tonight so you won’t have to worry about me dying in a fiery car crash or anything, so don’t lose any sleep over it.
TheBigOldDog on June 18, 2009 at 12:08 AM
Man, I was born way past the 60′s… Don’t really know much about the rain.
I figure there’s going to be some trolling… and maybe some troll calling when someone doesn’t understand someones humor… I’ve also noticed that some of the oldies are coming back strong. It’s like they took some time off and then decided to revisit. I think it’s fun when a newbie will refer to an oldie as a newbie.
Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 12:09 AM
The ODS seems to be setting in early and aggressively with some more than others. It’s eating their brains already, and I’m not sure if they’ll be able to survive 3 more years.
aero on June 18, 2009 at 12:10 AM
You were saying?
MadisonConservative on June 18, 2009 at 12:11 AM
You just couldn’t listen could you Freddy? Now you’ve lowered yourself to fixing typos. Do you really want to keep humiliating yourself like this? Don’t you have an ounce of pride left in you?
TheBigOldDog on June 18, 2009 at 12:13 AM
Well, it’s been fun but the blanket show just started and I can’t miss the beginning.
csdeven on June 18, 2009 at 12:14 AM
I got called a troll this week, and believe I handled so as not to scare the newbie away. And then, I’ve seen several arguments oldies, like grumpiness is intense. And then, the troll completed their training up in headlines and descended en masse into the blog. A lot of it was quite nasty.
Sorry for old-timer reference. Here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wolf_Man_(1941_film)
Loxodonta on June 18, 2009 at 12:15 AM
It was setting in the day after the election. I’d say it peaked around December, when it really began to hit people that our cute little liberal Republican had lost. Many just got over it and waited in vain to see if maybe he wouldn’t screw things up as painfully as he has. Others embraced the chance to act like the people they hated for the last eight years.
Open registration recently didn’t help either.
MadisonConservative on June 18, 2009 at 12:16 AM
Now, I know you’re tempted to pull out a sockpuppet or two Freddy, but don’t do it. I’ll know immediately and their cover will be blown. Don’t do it Freddy. You’ll regret it. And don’t wish any more violent death on me either. You’ll regret that too.
TheBigOldDog on June 18, 2009 at 12:16 AM
I see.
Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 12:16 AM
It is? I’m out. The floor is yours Freddy. Fire away. You won’t be rushed because there won’t be any return fire so take your time and aim straight you crazy fruitcake!
TheBigOldDog on June 18, 2009 at 12:17 AM
Sock Puppet??? I thought I knew what you were talking about, but not anymore… ???
Upstater85 on June 18, 2009 at 12:18 AM
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