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Rural Dems revolting against Obama?

posted at 10:55 am on June 17, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Last week, I wrote that the real problem for the Obama administration on climate change came from regional rather than partisan splits.  Politico today confirms that analysis and reports that the challenge may not be limited to Barack Obama’s pursuit of cap-and-trade.  Rural Democrats have begun rebelling against a wide swath of Obama’s domestic policies, claiming that the administration has no idea how rural and exurban Americans think:

Angered by White House decisions on everything from greenhouse gases to car dealerships, congressional Democrats from rural districts are threatening to revolt against parts of President Barack Obama’s ambitious first-year agenda.

“They don’t get rural America,” said Rep. Dennis Cardoza, a Democrat who represents California’s agriculture-rich Central Valley. “They form their views of the world in large cities.”

Cardoza’s critique was aimed at Obama’s Environmental Protection Agency, but it echoes complaints rural-district Democrats have about a number of Obama administration decisions.

Rural Dems want to know more about the closing of dealerships by the Obama administration and its task force, too:

In rural America, especially, the looming closures pose a dire threat. Car dealers are not only an economic linchpin of many county-seat towns but also offer support for institutions and a way of life that can’t be easily replaced.

“In rural jurisdictions, your dealerships are pretty big employers. If you knock out four dealerships, the ripple effects of that are substantial,” said Rep. Frank Kratovil (D-Md.), who represents a largely rural Eastern Shore district and is co-sponsoring a bill that could force the auto companies to honor their contracts with the rejected dealerships.  …

Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.) questioned how independent owned and operated businesses have any financial impact on automakers.

“None of us can quite understand why they consider dealerships a drag when they are the ones that buy the cars, that take the financial risks. Many of the dealerships that are being closed are profitable.”

Call this the Road to Damascus moment for the Blue Dog Democrats.  They got elected in part by promising more honest government than Republicans had presented but not big shifts in policy for conservative constituents.  That was a fairly easy promise to keep while George Bush (or any Republican) occupied the White House.  Divided government kept Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid in check from imposing hard-Left policies, and the Blue Dogs remained popular.

Now that Obama has opened the floodgates — and Treasury — to every sort of nationalization, Blue Dogs suddenly feel very, very vulnerable … and they should.  Rural and exurban voters who depended on car dealerships, as an example, for industry and employment suddenly face the threat of localized depressions.  Farmers now face the threat of insolvency due to restrictive agricultural policies under cap-and-trade.  These same resources helped elect the Democrats in the first place, and even without counting the anger that disillusion creates in elections, those resources will not exist in 2010.

Big-city Democrats get their money from Big Labor, which has also almost gone broke electing them.  They’re not concerned with rural America any more, if they ever were.  The Democrats want to impose their Ivory Tower elitism on the entire country, especially on the rural voters they succored in 2006 just to sucker them in 2009.


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Saiga, that’s why an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) attack could be so devastating. Somebody in a thread quite a while back mentioned Iran’s EMP capability. Does anybody know about that? Do they have the ability to do an EMP attack on America?

I know that Homeland Security calls “global warming” a national security issue because if the edges of the US start to go under water, the city folks will inundate the rural folks and chaos will ensue. The truth of the matter is that what we need to live is air, water, food, and shelter from extreme heat and cold. Rural folks have that. If our cities lose any of those, rural property and existence will be seized for the community. A crisis that can’t be allowed to go to waste.

justincase on June 17, 2009 at 12:03 PM

I guess our forefathers never imagined the day when American people would be comprised mostly of pinheads and they would elect the King of All Pinheads to be our leader.

fogw on June 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM

They knew the American people was comprised mostly of pinheads in their own time–that’s why the Constitution initially provided for the indirect election of Senators and the President.

hicsuget on June 17, 2009 at 12:15 PM

justincase on June 17, 2009 at 12:03 PM

I think that is why gun and ammo sales have been so high. When city life breaks down, those people without food will come after yours. EMP bombs can shut down anything from cars to radios to refrigeration to electricity. Imagine what would happen in New York City.

Self reliance is an attribute I choose to keep, and have no desire to become a government dependent. If the shooting starts, it is best to have plenty of ammo, and rural America knows that as do I.

saiga on June 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM

Obama hates farmers. They cling to guns and bibles. I am sure he thinks farmers can sell their 435 horse tractors and use little gas saving cute tractors from Home Depot. I can’t see a real farmer driving a tiny fiat truck with 1 pig piglet and 2 chickens payload capacity.

seven on June 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM

My son and I have decided that the ideal survival plan would have to include laying hens. They provide a daily source of protein which doesn’t have to be kept cold. Unfortunately, we live just across the gravel road from freedom, where farmers can raise livestock. A neighbor who was mad at us complained to the police about our 4 chickens. Ten yards to the west of where they were, a farmer could put in a coop with thousands of chickens and nobody’s complaints could have done a thing.

Of course, if the cap and trade stuff goes through ALL agriculture will suffer. LIterally killing the goose that lays the golden egg.

justincase on June 17, 2009 at 12:23 PM

I pray that conservative Democrats can find the strength to stand and then ACT on these principles. Democrats and Republican politicians alike need to be reminded who it is that they represent. NO MORE should ANY American be party to the gullible masses or “good little soldiers” who select leaders on party alone.

pjean on June 17, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Often, the most valuable lessons in trust seem to come from nowhere, other times they come from your own gullible efforts.

ericdijon on June 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Most people don’t understand hyper-inflation. Money becomes far more useless than it is today. The economic system can’t keep up, and chaos follows.

As the insane spending of money we don’t have continues, I don’t see how Obama explains how to avoid hyper-inflation. The only arguement is “growing the economy to outgrow the debt”, and he believes green jobs will do it.

Unfortunately, I don’t think there is a snowmans chance in hell that green jobs will deliver the kind of mail this problem needs. The invention of things like PC’s, cars, and televisions only come along a times a century, and they make for tax boons. As long as there is oil, the majority of the world could care less about green technology.

How many Prius cars do you see in the Iran footage these days? They still run two stroke motorcycles.

saiga on June 17, 2009 at 12:27 PM

justincase on June 17, 2009 at 12:03 PM

Neither Iran nor North Korea are capable of conducting the extremely over hyped phantom EMP attack. One needs to deliever and detonate a high yield hydrogen weapon in the troposphere, this overplayed senario borders of trutherisms.

dmann on June 17, 2009 at 12:27 PM

The Democrats want to impose their Ivory Tower elitism on the entire country, especially on the rural voters they succored in 2006 just to sucker them in 2009.

I’m sorry, but Ed Morrissey really has gotten to be as equally pathetic as he is predictable. Such cliche rhetoric. Ivory Tower elitism, RAWWWWWRRR.

Right, because it’s only acceptable for conservatives to impose rural values on metropolitan American, not the other way around.

Hey Ed, remember all those posts you wrote back in 2008 about how “Jewish Democrats are bolting on Obama” and jumping ship to McCain?

Refresh my memory. How much of the Jewish vote did Obama win? 78%? How much had Kerry won four years earlier?

74%?

And then you were making claims that blacks had begun bolting on the Dems in 06′.

So you’ve basically mastered the art of claiming that certain groups are “bolting” on Obama only to wake up with egg on your face election night, huh?

Conservatives in this country are living in an ideological bubble, not Democrats.

Lizza on June 17, 2009 at 12:29 PM

An EMP attack requires that a nuclear device be detonated over the US. It is the result of a nuclear explosion, not a bomb itself. Assuming that they (Iran, NK, AQ, etc.) don’t have a nuke yet, not to mention the means of getting into the atmosphere in our airspace, they don’t have the capacity. If they do, then get ready for a ride back to the 1800s at some point.

uhsooner on June 17, 2009 at 12:30 PM

What would it take to do that, dmann?

justincase on June 17, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Neither Iran nor North Korea are capable of conducting the extremely over hyped phantom EMP attack. One needs to deliever and detonate a high yield hydrogen weapon in the troposphere, this overplayed senario borders of trutherisms.

dmann on June 17, 2009 at 12:27 PM

The US has the capability. If we have it, are you saying it is impossible for others to have it?

saiga on June 17, 2009 at 12:31 PM

This is NOT your Grandfathers Democratic party. Hell it’s not our Grandfathers Republican party, anymore.

Remember…these blue dogs probably won’t vote for these pet projects, because they desperately want to win re-election. Give them a win in 2010, and they’ll probably vote yay the second time around. By that time, they won’t have to worry about re-elections. Just the worry about who to pick as their successor.

Tis a shame. I am conservative, to the very core of my being, but historically, to have a first black President, was something to be remembered. Now…all we’ll remember is the total catastrophe, ineptitude, and overall failure this President is.

capejasmine on June 17, 2009 at 12:31 PM

We know North Korea has nukes which they shared with Syria until Israel took out the site. And Venezuela is pretty darned close to American airspace.

The alliances forming in the world today leave the whole world vulnerable, it seems to me.

justincase on June 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM

Lizza on June 17, 2009 at 12:29 PM

Lizzard, your attempts at sarcasm betray your ultimate contempt for anyone who dares — dares! — to disagree with you.
When the Obot brownshirts come for you, which they will, don’t look for the HA regulars to come and protect you. We’ll all be re-educated or dead.

either orr on June 17, 2009 at 12:34 PM

Unfortunately people believe what they want to believe. The facts were out there for the voters, though you did have to dig for some of them (thanks to our self-serving media). Obama’s derision of rural life and working class people in general was evident. The attacks on Sarah Palin and Joe the plumber serve as witnesses. But I guess none of that matters if you want to “make history”. Portray your candidate as an underdog and America rushes to their defense…

texabama on June 17, 2009 at 12:34 PM

uhsooner on June 17, 2009 at 12:30 PM

Setting off a small nuke in a major US city woulds have a similar effect. Infrastructure would be impacted and the capacity for law and order would be taxed to the max.

Look at New Orleans with Katrina. Civilizaton broke down there. Los Angeles or New York would be no different in a major event.

saiga on June 17, 2009 at 12:36 PM

Lizza on June 17, 2009 at 12:29 PM

When the going gets tough, we will see how all the lertie panzies hold up. I can hear the begging and squeeling already.

Obama is proving more and more everyday that he is on the wrong track for America. A jimmy Carter redux.

saiga on June 17, 2009 at 12:41 PM

I tell my kids we’re probably in one of the safest places because there’s no large city close. But the fallout would impact everything – especially in winter when you can’t grow a garden.

justincase on June 17, 2009 at 12:45 PM

Dems always exploit rural America for the benefit of the cities. That’s what they do. That’s their SOP. It’s how they serve their mostly urban constituency. Screw the rural folks. They’re expendable.

I’m a refugee from DC now living in western PA. No where in the country is this exploitation more brazen than in western PA, thanks to Gov. Rendell.

petefrt on June 17, 2009 at 12:46 PM

What part of the bitter clinger speech did they not understand?

patriette on June 17, 2009 at 11:01 AM

The part they never heard, more than likely.

MarkTheGreat on June 17, 2009 at 12:50 PM

…and all three of their votes.

tommylotto on June 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM

You really do like making a fool of yourself.

MarkTheGreat on June 17, 2009 at 12:52 PM

saiga wrote:

Setting off a small nuke in a major US city woulds have a similar effect. Infrastructure would be impacted and the capacity for law and order would be taxed to the max.

As a Vietnam Veteran (Navy)who had a father and father-in-law who were WWII Veterans (Navy), and who has three brothers-in-law who are Vietnam Veterans (Army, Marines, Air Force), and have four nephews who are Iraq War Veterans (Army, Navy, Air Force), I can state with firm certainty that if a nuke was detonated in New York, Pennsylvania, or Washington D.C, the people who survived that would cry for some sort of unified national retaliatory response, as happened after 911, would be told by those who dodged bombs and bullets on their behalf before last November would be told to EFF OFF!

blackelkspeaks on June 17, 2009 at 12:53 PM

If you want to boil a frog, you can’t put them in hot water. You have to put them in room temperature water, and they won’t notice the temperature rising.

That’s what Lizza and her other libtard friends are – frogs. Us conservatives noticed a few years ago that the flames had been turned up, but they just keep watching the Obama spoon keep stirring the water in the middle, totally fascinated as he feeds them flies.

The rich frogs will jump. Those of us that have to stay will have to put the fire out, saving Lizza whether she wants it or not.

PastorJon on June 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM

The numbers are probably not significant, however, it is rural America that is now free from broadcast television lefty brainwashing with the switch to digital. Most of us hicks out here had cable or satellite already but then again there were a lot antennas that no longer work.

Lost my shape on June 17, 2009 at 12:57 PM

PastorJon on June 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM

Lizza being an Obama Brownshirt Pastor, I’d rather watch her boil *shrugs*

Firefly56 on June 17, 2009 at 1:03 PM

1) The country has been hardening critical resources against EMP for a few decades now.

2) EMP was never as big a threat as originally claimed. The problem is with that nasty R cubed law.

MarkTheGreat on June 17, 2009 at 1:05 PM

Lizza on June 17, 2009 at 12:29 PM

The real America is in the country. People here are community oriented, patriotic, Christian, self reliant and hardworking.

Unlike someone in the city I don’t need PBS to tell me that global warming is dooming the world since I actually live in nature and can see that is it not.
Unlike someone in the city I see life and death everyday taking care of my animals.
Unlike someone in the city my kids have actually skills beyond texting on their cell phones.
Unlike people in the city I go out of my way to know and help my neighbors.
Keep your metropolitan life and don’t come to beg food from me when something bad happens.

dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 1:08 PM

Rural Democrats have begun rebelling against a wide swath of Obama’s domestic policies, claiming that the administration has no idea how rural and exurban Americans think:

And yet they still voted for a man who spent maybe 20 minutes of his pre-election life outside a city. Screw you democrats, rural, urban, whatever. You fucked this country for the next 25 years.

angryed on June 17, 2009 at 1:09 PM

What do you mean, MarkTheGreat?

justincase on June 17, 2009 at 1:10 PM

I see Lezza is cashing Soros’s checks again.

PimFortuynsGhost on June 17, 2009 at 1:11 PM

“Rural Dems” don’t fit the “Clinging to their guns and bibles” bit that’s probably true of rural GOPers.

First, being a DEM they want guns confiscated.

Second, no point carrying a bible since you can’t be a Christian and a Democrat. You’re a baby killer instead.

Jeff from WI on June 17, 2009 at 1:11 PM

Rural Democrats have begun rebelling against a wide swath of Obama’s domestic policies, claiming that the administration has no idea how rural and exurban Americans think…

They’re just now figuring this out?

psrch on June 17, 2009 at 1:12 PM

I see Lezza is cashing Soros’s checks again.

PimFortuynsGhost on June 17, 2009 at 1:11 PM

At least she’s “human”, unlike Ann who is virtual. Ann’s programmer is cashing Soros’ check. All interconnected.

angryed on June 17, 2009 at 1:13 PM

People are missing the unsaid point behind the fascist in chiefs plans here.

Zer0bama want to consolidate the population OUT of the rural areas as soon as possible, squeezing them as close into the cities as possible. That serves his environmental agenda, but that’s just the public face of it. It’s a matter of control and resistance.

You cannot win a fight for control over rural areas. It takes far too much in resources and manpower. It’s far easier to scrunch people together and point a shotgun at the crowd than it is to send thousands of troops to fan across the countryside getting ambushed and killed at every turn.

Remember what this creep is; a tyrannical fascist dictator wannabee. The sooner you start thinking Chicago thug, the sooner you’ll understand his objectives and be able to calculate his methods.

Spiritk9 on June 17, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Spiritk9 on June 17, 2009 at 1:16 PM

That’s crazy.

No dictator has ever done that before. Oh wait…Stalin did that, Ceasusescu did that, Pol Pot did that, Mao did that.

All coincidences I’m sure. You are nothing but a teabagging racist. Good day sir.

angryed on June 17, 2009 at 1:19 PM

This is why we should never vote Democrat. It enables their corrupt leaders to have a majority and the new “conservative Democrat” has no power whatsoever.

At a local level Iowa is a sad example. Democrat Governors inevitably appoint liberal judges that overturn the will of the supposedly religious people and cram gay marriage down their throats. (this is also a reason why Iowa shouldn’t be the first Republican caucus state anymore, too many liberals abusing power shows the people don’t know what they are voting for)

scotash on June 17, 2009 at 1:24 PM

Spiritk9 on June 17, 2009 at 1:16 PM

Then would it behoove city dwelling conservatives to abstain from participating in the Census? I’ve been thinking about that, and I think a dialogue on this would be helpful.

atheling on June 17, 2009 at 1:28 PM

It’s Obama who’s revolting!

KS Rex on June 17, 2009 at 1:29 PM

angryed wrote to Spiritk9:

That’s crazy.

No dictator has ever done that before. Oh wait…Stalin did that, Ceasusescu did that, Pol Pot did that, Mao did that.

All coincidences I’m sure. You are nothing but a teabagging racist. Good day sir.

The problems with your thinking, sir, are that (1) the Communists were the agrarians, and (2) the people were disarmed. The whole scenario changes when those in the hinterlands are heavily armed and ready for bear and highly motivated against the agents of government tyranny. The next Civil War won’t be fought by farmers against farmers, but by farmers against urban thugs. And I wouldn’t put my money on the military siding with the hip-hoppers and Hussein’s gangs of thugs against true freedom-loving American patriots.

blackelkspeaks on June 17, 2009 at 1:33 PM

blackelkspeaks, the majority of those serving in the military are from rural areas.

pseudonominus on June 17, 2009 at 1:42 PM

saiga on June 17, 2009 at 12:36 PM

True, but it would be more isolated than a nuke being detonated in the atmosphere, which would cause widespread catastrophic failure of our infrastructure, as opposed to regional destruction.

Either scenario would be horribly devastating to our country, don’t take me wrong, but one has much more severe consequences for the nation as a whole.

uhsooner on June 17, 2009 at 1:43 PM

I don’t know if anybody else thought of the parts aspect of this. I posted this in depth at Ace of Spades. Dealers make 70-90% on parts and the body shop. I worked a mega dealer in the ’80’s. At the monday mornig meeting, the body shop was the only piece that always made money. Parts had it’s ups and downs. Sales sold cars at cost, just to get backend/holdback money. So when you need that “special factory only part” how far do you have to drive now? And forget about dealers, 5-10 miles apart slitting each others throats for a sale. Car prices will go up. Skill level of mechanics will go down due to the flooded auto tech market, and parts will take more of a hassle to get.

121fxdl on June 17, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Cultural declension manifests itself in polarized and chaotic politics. By the time we traditionalists and conservatives enter the political fray, the cultural consensus has already predetermined the outcome. We fight reargaurd actions and win a few small battles in a war we may have already lost. Blue dog rural democrats may join us on occasion but only when their reelection is at stake. Their primary allegiance is to the statist, urban/suburban,
cultural consensus that is now the dominant voice in our national life.

John Prather on June 17, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Cultural declension manifests itself in polarized and chaotic politics. By the time we traditionalists and conservatives enter the political fray, the cultural consensus has already predetermined the outcome. We fight reargaurd actions and win a few small battles in a war we may have already lost. Blue dog rural democrats may join us on occasion but only when their reelection is at stake. Their primary allegiance is to the statist, urban/suburban,
cultural consensus that is now the dominant voice in our national life.

John Prather on June 17, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Cultural declension manifests itself in polarized and chaotic politics. By the time we traditionalists and conservatives enter the political fray, the cultural consensus has already predetermined the outcome. We fight reargaurd actions and win a few small battles in a war we may have already lost. Blue dog rural democrats may join us on occasion but only when their reelection is at stake. Their primary allegiance is to the statist, urban/suburban,
cultural consensus that is now the dominant voice in our national life.

John Prather on June 17, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Could this be Obama’s tipping point?

Am I beating a dead horse?

Let’s do a poll!

Skandia Recluse on June 17, 2009 at 11:07 AM

No. The next possible tipping point will be in November 2010. We need to retake as many seats as possible in Congress to put heat on the Blue Dogs. And we can take back control of the Senate. To achieve this, we must keep focused on our winning issues.

Keep your eyes on the prize.

Loxodonta on June 17, 2009 at 1:52 PM

I think the elections of 2010 and 2012 are going to be fascinating to watch!

Oink on June 17, 2009 at 11:14 AM

I think you are right. I am a new Republican…and proud to be one. I was a Reagan Democrat before this election. Been wondering how I could have been so ignorant. Felt somewhat better after realizing it’s complete and total indoctrination, from elementary school through college.
I will never vote for another Democrat.

mtb on June 17, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Rahm Emmanuel was overheard saying to Obama, “Those farmers out in the Midwest are revolting!”

Michelle piped up, “Well, I don’t know about you guys, but they have always have made me feel a bit queasy.”

coldwarrior on June 17, 2009 at 1:53 PM

That Arugala don’t grow itself, ya know!

121fxdl on June 17, 2009 at 2:01 PM

If Obamacare would “save money,” why dont the dems do it in their own states? I’m sure they would love to save money hahaha they know it’s bs

Libertarian Joseph on June 17, 2009 at 2:58 PM

My sympathy for those who voted for this mess, (depression coming?) is very limited.

burt on June 17, 2009 at 3:00 PM

Awwwwwww! Poor babies! You voted for him now live with it and STFU!

sabbott on June 17, 2009 at 3:11 PM

Rural Democrats have begun rebelling against a wide swath of Obama’s domestic policies, claiming that the administration has no idea how rural and exurban Americans think.

Noooo! Really?

Betcha I can tell you one candidate who DOES know exactly how rural citizens think, don’cha know!

Elections have consequences. Enjoy yours, dipshyts.

:D

RedNewEnglander on June 17, 2009 at 3:19 PM

These Blue-Dog Dems are:

Sarah’s People

Sapwolf on June 17, 2009 at 3:19 PM

OH, MY, GOD!

“They don’t get rural America,” said Rep. Dennis Cardoza, a Democrat who represents California’s agriculture-rich Central Valley. “They form their views of the world in large cities.”

I’ve known this guy LITERALY since First Grade… he’s one of the biggest Weasels I’ve ever met. Tried to shake my hand a few years back at an Atwater 4th of July Parade… and I turned my back on him (my Mom, who taught him English in Junior High was pissed at me for it… but my kids were laughing once I explained who he was)…

If this weasel is turning on the Bambi agenda… it must REALLY be bad.

Romeo13 on June 17, 2009 at 3:19 PM

REAL Democrats are not socialists, nor are they particularly crazy-liberal like the party’s leadership. Most just want to be left alone by the government, just like most Republicans and Independents.

n0doz on June 17, 2009 at 3:41 PM

Romeo13 on June 17, 2009 at 3:19 PM

If he is half as bad as you portray him, I wish to congratulate you on having fine kids.

burt on June 17, 2009 at 3:41 PM

They’re not concerned with rural America any more, if they ever were. The Democrats want to impose their Ivory Tower elitism on the entire country, especially on the rural voters they succored in 2006 just to sucker them in 2009.

They weren’t suckered; they voted with their eyes open and I feel no sympathy for the idiots now that they are getting screwed. F them.

woodNfish on June 17, 2009 at 4:00 PM

REAL Democrats are not socialists, nor are they particularly crazy-liberal like the party’s leadership. Most just want to be left alone by the government, just like most Republicans and Independents.

n0doz on June 17, 2009 at 3:41 PM

REAL Democrats put this Commie in power to take down this nation and they support a party that butchers babies.

Jeff from WI on June 17, 2009 at 4:04 PM

“They don’t get rural America,” said Rep. Dennis Cardoza, a Democrat who represents California’s agriculture-rich Central Valley. “They form their views of the world in large cities.”

Duh. Switch to the GOP, Dennis. Your observation basically identifies the difference between Republicans and Democrats. If you got elected by running to the right of a liberal Republican, you’re going to have a hard time following the radical leftists running congress.

Jaibones on June 17, 2009 at 4:10 PM

While this puke we call the President was campaigning he said with a sneer that “the suburbs BORE me.” If creepoid finds the ‘burbs boring he must be comatose when it comes to the farmland of America. The man isn’t for anyone but himself and his urban gang of thugs.

UnEasyRider on June 17, 2009 at 4:23 PM

I don’t know if any of you have noticed, but ever since Obama was elected it’s been nearly impossible to buy any ammunition, or even reloading supplies. The stores are constantly out of stock. It’s not just that it’s getting bought up as soon as it comes in either, they simply are not getting much in anymore.

Also, if anyone thinks that the Dems are going to wake up and smell the tyranny they are kidding themselves. I live in Oregon, our state just keeps going further and further left DESPITE the fact that it’s only making things worse.

With the press on the side of the left, and not just on their side, but active propagandists, and with those on the right UNWILLING to really get out and be pro-active things just won’t change. We can spend all days on the blogs, but have a rally and the numbers that show are pitiful compared with the numbers the left wing nut-balls can turn out. We just don’t have it in us to be pro-active.

Also, someone early said that with the transition to digital there are a lot of useless antenna’s and so people have been “freed” from network TV by being forced to take up cable or satellite. That’s bogus. I’ve been FREE from the CABLE company ever since digital broadcasts began simulcasting a couple years ago. Digital allows me far more channels than analog, and a better picture, and you’d have to be an absolute RETARD to not be able to figure out how to get your CURRENT antenna to work (most antennas are both UHF and VHF), sheesh they’ve only been telling people about this for more than a year.

flyfishingdad on June 17, 2009 at 4:26 PM

While this puke we call the President was campaigning he said with a sneer that “the suburbs BORE me.” If creepoid finds the ‘burbs boring he must be comatose when it comes to the farmland of America. The man isn’t for anyone but himself and his urban gang of thugs.

UnEasyRider on June 17, 2009 at 4:23 PM

I don’t know how Obama can call the ‘burbs boring. With the much loved “diversity” the ‘burbs are now beginning to look and sound like his beloved urban areas.
I know I learned to love the diversity when my house was broken into by my “diverse” neighbors, and another type of “diverse” neighbor started an 8am-4pm rap concert two houses away last Sunday morning. This was after a Saturday night spent listening to him, outside on his cell phone, arguing with his…well I won’t use the term,while he went on for 25 minutes using every swear word in the book until the cops came.So don’t tellme the ‘burbs are boring.

Jeff from WI on June 17, 2009 at 4:41 PM

A lot of people in rural America feel left out and ignored. I have lived in the country for decades, and I farmed for years. It seems the only time people remember you is when they are complaining about something.

These are some of the most honest and patriotic people in the country and yet no one seems to care what happens to them. That is not lost on these people.

If Obama pushes through these policies, it will not only be the car dealerships, it will be the coal miners and independent farmers that will feel it. And if they feel it, the already dying little towns will feel it too.

Terrye on June 17, 2009 at 6:07 PM

Jaibones:

In my county Obama only got 22% of the vote, it is the cities who elected Obama. My Congressman Brad Ellsworth is a blue dog. He was the Sheriff in Evansville for years. He is progun, pro life and supposedly fiscally conservative. The people voted for him in this district because they knew him, he had a strong back ground here.

Terrye on June 17, 2009 at 6:10 PM

Don’t believe the Blue Dog hype. For a couple of years I’ve been hearing that congress is chock-full of fiscally-conservative-socially-moderate Democrats from Dixie and the midwest who’ll counterweight the MoveOn wing of the party. My own representatives have often been listed as members of this confederation of centrists.
I don’t buy it. A lawmaker isn’t conservative just because they hail from a Bush-voting flyover state or grew up on a farm. Take a look at the Arkansas congressional representatives. Marion Berry, member of the House Blue Dog Caucus, and his upper-chamber associates Mark Pryor and Blanche Lambert Lincoln all owe their Beltway careers to an elaborate bread-and-circus act they put on every election season.
Here’s how it works: They all schlep back down to the rice fields to campaign as duck-hunting, budget-cutting, farm-bred Baptists. Last year the Northeast Arkansas AM talk station was inundated with ads touting Mark Pryor as a “downright conservative” when it comes to gun ownership and taxes in a voice reminiscent of the old Werther’s Originals commercials. Lincoln and Berry both keep a stranglehold on their congressional seats with the support of federally subsidized farmers. Incidentally, Blanche and Marion benefit from their own pro-farm votes because their families operate farms.
Once re-election is assured, it’s back to Washington to vote with Pelosi and Reid secure in the knowledge that the Arkansans who sent them there won’t ever track down the voting records. The local media cover for these phonies. Editorial writers at the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette and Jonesboro Sun alternately praise their centrist moderation and bemoan their conservatism. The basis for these editorials are always comments made to the press rather than voting history.
It’s nice to think that rural Southern Democrat representatives will revolt and derail the socialization of America. I don’t believe it, though.

Lott on June 17, 2009 at 6:14 PM

I hate to say this but ALL you liberals
This entire mess is your fault.
1. you forced the banks to give out huge loans to people who couldnt pay it back (i remember the Red lining the liberals were screaming about in the 1990’s)
2. you then forced banks to give more loans to basically anyone with a fake id and was breathing..
3. when all the banks started to collapse you then went after the hedge funds (and tried to force them to keep thier stock portfolio instead of dumping it) forcing the stock market down.
4. then when it went down you liberals elected Barack (empty suit laywer obama) who coudlnt run a lemonaide stand
5. he then passes 2 bills for an estimated 800 billion +750 billion = 1.6 trillion dollars in pork) which is all a waste
6. the dollar starts to collapse and so does gm and chryster
so obama takes them over too
7. installs a guy who has never built a car in his life

and then runs all the car dealers out of business..

If the Islamic Nazis want to destroy america
they better hurry up
Obama and ALL the Democraps are doing it so fast
we may not have a country in 6 months.

http://www.veteranoutrage.com

You elected these Morons
You deserve what you get..
I am getting my guns ready

veteranoutrage on June 17, 2009 at 6:18 PM

Jesus! People seem to be reading main stream/government fairy tale media in the United States; Search how many countries have nuclear weapons and think to yourself; Do any of these countries think they are more powerful than the U.S? Is the U.S. displaying any weaknesses? Blink, blink, blink? Doh!

Cybergeezer on June 17, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Jesus! People seem to be reading main stream/government fairy tale media in the United States; Search how many countries have nuclear weapons and think to yourself; Do any of these countries think they are more powerful than the U.S? Is the U.S. displaying any weaknesses? Blink, blink, blink? Doh!

Cybergeezer on June 17, 2009 at 6:27 PM

Chip, Chip, Chip…

Kuffar on June 17, 2009 at 6:49 PM

My husband and I semi-retired to a small rural town in NC a couple of years ago. I have been getting educated ever since and shockingly so. If I’d moved here for any reason other than to be near our kids, I’d have done better homework. Would’ve thought this place to be conservative. And it is, value-wise, for the most part. The people here are friendly and welcoming. However, most everyone calls himself a Democrat and votes that way. They are CLUELESS about what they voted for in this last election! They missed Zell Miller’s speech a few years back, apparently — they vote the way their great granddaddies always voted and have no idea that the Democrat party is any different now than it was then.

Some people I know are still getting government handouts for NOT growing tobacco — something they have no intention of doing anyway and that has not been done on their land for 50 years!!! A couple of people who are paying through the wazoo to heat the few rooms of their homes they can afford to heat with propane or heating oil had never even heard of the term “cap and trade.” They had no idea what it would do to them and were shocked when I explained it. I still don’t think they believe me. None of them watch FOX. They have no idea what is going on.

I am on a crusade here to try to wake people up and have become not exactly the most popular Yankee in town…but I don’t think anybody here is going to wake up till they are truly hurting from The Zero’s policies, God help us all if these are not stopped.

winfield on June 17, 2009 at 7:20 PM

My husband and I semi-retired to a small rural town in NC a couple of years ago. I have been getting educated ever since and shockingly so. If I’d moved here for any reason other than to be near our kids, I’d have done better homework. Would’ve thought this place to be conservative. And it is, value-wise, for the most part. The people here are friendly and welcoming. However, most everyone calls himself a Democrat and votes that way. They are CLUELESS about what they voted for in this last election! They missed Zell Miller’s speech a few years back, apparently — they vote the way their great granddaddies always voted and have no idea that the Democrat party is any different now than it was then.

Some people I know are still getting government handouts for NOT growing tobacco — something they have no intention of doing anyway and that has not been done on their land for 50 years!!! A couple of people who are paying through the wazoo to heat the few rooms of their homes they can afford to heat with propane or heating oil had never even heard of the term “cap and trade.” They had no idea what it would do to them and were shocked when I explained it. I still don’t think they believe me. None of them watch FOX. They have no idea what is going on.

I am on a crusade here to try to wake people up and have become not exactly the most popular Yankee in town…but I don’t think anybody here is going to wake up till they are truly hurting from The Zero’s policies, God help us all if these are not stopped.

winfield on June 17, 2009 at 7:20 PM

Sorry but you’ll never get those hillbillies to give up their “gubmet handouts”. They’ll be leaches on society, like most Democrats, forever.

Jeff from WI on June 17, 2009 at 8:16 PM

winfield on June 17, 2009 at 7:20 PM
Ya ever hear of ACNE? You’re living where it originated!

Cybergeezer on June 17, 2009 at 8:37 PM

they just wanta keep him away from their goats and sheep.
Obaaaaaaaama is the son of a goat herder don’t you know

bluegrass on June 17, 2009 at 9:20 PM

“They don’t get rural America,” said Rep. Dennis Cardoza, a Democrat who represents California’s agriculture-rich Central Valley. “They form their views of the world in large cities.”

So this was a shocker, huh?

Star20 on June 17, 2009 at 10:01 PM

Sorry but you’ll never get those hillbillies to give up their “gubmet handouts”. They’ll be leaches on society, like most Democrats, forever.

You’re right, Jeff. What I don’t get is why the gummint is still giving subsidies to “farmers” who haven’t “farmed” in 3 generations. btw, these are all college-eddicated, professional folks. Makes it all the sadder and scarier.

Ya ever hear of ACNE? You’re living where it originated!

Cybergeezer on June 17, 2009 at 8:37 PM

Only the kind that is not an acronymn. Enlighten me?

winfield on June 17, 2009 at 10:43 PM

They’re not concerned with rural America any more, if they ever were.

elgeneralisimo himself anticipated a bit of knife twisting, as it is the Democrat way. But Obama manages to exceed the expectations of even elgeneralisimo’s dark heart…

Linky #1
Linky #2

For those whom clicking and reading is simply too much of a chore… SAFER grants(funding increase from $210 million to $420 million with $584 million in requests) typically are utilized by career/combo departments in large urban areas who endorsed and voted for The One. FIRE grants(funding decrease from $565 million to $170 million with $3.2 billion in requests) by those who… lacked the wisdom to do so…

elgeneralisimo on June 17, 2009 at 11:07 PM

winfield on June 17, 2009 at 10:43 PM:
Just being facetious; Acne pops up when your juvenile (Obama himself), and takes years to get rid of (Obama again). And just when you think you have it cured; Wham, another one pops up!
Liberals/Democrats/Obama/acne/the common cold; What’s the difference?

Cybergeezer on June 18, 2009 at 9:30 AM

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