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Who runs the New York state senate?

posted at 10:55 am on June 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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A week after the Republicans appeared to gain control of New York’s state senate, no one knows yet who runs the chamber.  Two Democrats defected to give the GOP 32-30 control, but then one of them changed back.  A court gave the gavel back to the Democrats, but they can’t bring it under control.  The state press has begun to call them “clowns” and the capital a “circus,” but they’re still missing a ringleader:

The state capital, Albany, was locked in political chaos Monday, just a week before the legislature is due to go home for the summer and with major bills, from control of New York City schools to same-sex marriage, stacked up and awaiting action.

After a day of confusion, no one knew which party was in control of the 62-member state Senate, which now appears evenly split. Both sides were claiming to be in charge, with no lieutenant governor to break a tie. Gov. David A. Paterson (D) was offering to broker a compromise, but with his approval ratings at a record low, he had few tools to force the senators to make a deal. …

Republicans announced they had seized control of the chamber, and they named one of the Democratic renegades, Pedro Espada Jr., as president pro tempore. In an event resembling a coup, the chamber doors were locked and a television channel carrying Senate proceedings briefly went blank.

But over the weekend, the other renegade, Sen. Hiram Monserrate, seemed to have a change of heart, and he appeared Monday at a news conference with ousted majority leader Smith. Monserrate’s re-defection left the Senate hamstrung and commentators freely using words such as “circus” and “clowns” to describe the atmosphere in the capital.

On one hand, this has become a bit of a feel-good story.  It involves incompetence rather than corruption, which allows everyone to have a good time with it.  The New York Post even sent a clown to Albany to help with the circus motif.  It allows everyone, even the New Yorkers who voted this group into office, to feel a little superior without having to worry about cleaning up the consequences later.

Unfortunately, though, there seems to be few ways out of a 31-31 impasse.  Normally, the lieutenant governor would simply preside over the state senate and cast tie-breaking votes, which in this case would give Democrats control.  However, New York does not have a lieutenant governor.  When David Paterson replaced the disgraced Eliot Spitzer as governor, New York did not require him to appoint a replacement for his own office, and the legislature didn’t provide for one, either.  Paterson himself has no official power to compel the state senate to do anything, and with his approval ratings somewhere below that of George Bush, he has no political clout, either.

The show will continue into the courts, which may or may not feel comfortable with picking winners and losers in a legislative organization effort.  The proper way to handle this would be to force the legislature to come to an agreement on organization, perhaps a power-sharing arrangement that would allow the state senate to limp along to the next election.  The legislators themselves should beware giving the courts an entree to dictate the internal workings of the legislative branch, but if they took that much responsibility for their work, the circus would never have come to Albany in the first place.


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I fell asleep…are you talking bout our congress or just New York…

right2bright on June 16, 2009 at 10:58 AM

Would it be so bad if the NYS legislature just took a very long vacation?

Upstater85 on June 16, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Ahh, let’s bust out some popcorn and watch the show!

t.ferg on June 16, 2009 at 10:59 AM

A government that governs least, governs best. This is about as least as you can get.

lorien1973 on June 16, 2009 at 11:00 AM

I was down there in Albany yesterday, t’was quite fun, lol

angelwing34215 on June 16, 2009 at 11:01 AM

I was down there in Albany yesterday, t’was quite fun, lol

angelwing34215 on June 16, 2009 at 11:01 AM

That would mean you live farther up there…

Upstater85 on June 16, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Declare victory, adjourn, go home. Everybody wins.
Start your campaigns for the next election.

Skandia Recluse on June 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM

There is more than meets the eye…
Tom Galisano is attempted to shake things up in Albany and shake things up he did.

mjbrooks3 on June 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Upstater85 on June 16, 2009 at 11:03 AM

sorry used to being in Guilderland (suburbs nearby) I mean like downtown to Albany.

angelwing34215 on June 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM

this is nothing short of a disgrace, this turns people off to politics and therefor bigger more important issues, then all of the sudden enters a smooth talking senator and now we have a idiot as potus……..sad

SHARPTOOTH on June 16, 2009 at 11:08 AM

mjbrooks3 on June 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Proud student of the Galisano College of Computing and Information Sciences at RIT

angelwing34215 on June 16, 2009 at 11:09 AM

my state really sucks.

moonbatkiller on June 16, 2009 at 11:09 AM

Both of the defectors have baggage, so having one go back is not a disaster. On the plus side, any failure of gov’t is eventually blamed on the executive. So Paterson will get hit with some fallout.

Lou Budvis on June 16, 2009 at 11:11 AM

I am enjoying all this immensely…
Thank you Mr. Galisano

mjbrooks3 on June 16, 2009 at 11:11 AM

sorry used to being in Guilderland (suburbs nearby) I mean like downtown to Albany.

angelwing34215 on June 16, 2009 at 11:07 AM

Oh… I thought you meant like Adirondacks “up there” :(

Upstater85 on June 16, 2009 at 11:11 AM

It’s even an Obamanation in New York

Hope and Change Baby!

bwconq on June 16, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Exposing the dysfunctionality retards the Liberal agenda.

mjbrooks3 on June 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM

Who runs the New York state senate?

The better question is: Who cares.

What, do they need to write more laws to make life harder for new yorkers?

lorien1973 on June 16, 2009 at 11:13 AM

It’s night time at the Museum.

Where’s Ben Stiller?

Barrack on June 16, 2009 at 11:14 AM

NY is two years away from being CA…

mjbrooks3 on June 16, 2009 at 11:15 AM

I’m glad I don’t live in NY & Cali.

All I’m sayin’

bluelightbrigade on June 16, 2009 at 11:15 AM

This whole thing is odd, the two Dems that switched to Republicans were under an ethical cloud and investigation. At least I heard that in one report. They all sound like a great bunch and I doubt they are much different then most legislatures.

Cindy Munford on June 16, 2009 at 11:16 AM

cindy…
They never became Republicans, they only voted with the Republicans… it was a procedural thing.

mjbrooks3 on June 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Air conditioning was the worst thing that ever happened to limited government, because it gave legislatures like the one in New York the excuse to now meet year-round, instead of taking the summer off and heading for Coney Island, Lake Ontario, the Catskills or the Adirondaks. If the 31-31 stalemate forces the legislature to go back to the old days of taking the summer off, it’s not a big loss.

jon1979 on June 16, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Great tagline for the story, Ed.

jon1979 on June 16, 2009 at 11:19 AM

A compelling ‘green’ argument for limited government. Lower your carbon footprint! Don’t let you legislative body meet year-round!

Fallen Sparrow on June 16, 2009 at 11:21 AM

you = your

d’oh

Fallen Sparrow on June 16, 2009 at 11:21 AM

John Adams on New Yorkers:

“They talk very loud, very fast, and altogether. If they ask you a question, before you can utter three words of your answer, they will break out upon you again — and talk away.”

mankai on June 16, 2009 at 11:24 AM

jon1979 on June 16, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Thats hilarious, of course down here they would die from the heat.

LSUMama on June 16, 2009 at 11:26 AM

Patterson will be asking for a new vote, with ACORN providing the 63rd vote.

djaymick on June 16, 2009 at 11:29 AM

Look at it this way: as long as they’re clowning around with their little political fights, they will stay out of the people’s wallets and lives. Bipartisanship action is way more dangerous.

PattyJ on June 16, 2009 at 11:30 AM

Bipartisanship action is way more dangerous.

To me, the most terrifying phrase in government is “bipartisan effort.”

Fallen Sparrow on June 16, 2009 at 11:32 AM

There are certainly worse things than my state senate running around, heads colliding making that coconut sound while “Three Blind Mice” plays in the background.

I’ll bet Patterson feels kinda silly that he didn’t find a replacement for his position, huh?

DrAllecon on June 16, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Giuliani needs to step into this if he’s going to make a serious run for governor.

SouthernGent on June 16, 2009 at 11:33 AM

I’m starting to wonder, if we could find one. Just one elected official, that’s actually out there for the people, and not the power, or for their own gain.

This is pathetic, and sad. Defect, don’t defect. Make it a tie, get caught up in pettiness, over who’s really in charge. Geeze this crap is exhausting!!!

capejasmine on June 16, 2009 at 11:34 AM

mjbrooks3 on June 16, 2009 at 11:17 AM

I sort of knew that, they were caucusing with the Republicans but how does the gavel go from one to another party if they don’t really make the switch. Seems like everytime you have a vote it could change since few are party line. They work really hard to confuse stuff, no wonder people feel disconnected.

Cindy Munford on June 16, 2009 at 11:36 AM

Best thing to happen to NY in a long time. With those clowns arguing over a gavel nothing will get done, and New Yorkers might soon discover that an idle legislative branch can’t further destroy their lives.

smfoushee on June 16, 2009 at 11:36 AM

he show will continue into the courts, which may or may not feel comfortable with picking winners and losers in a legislative organization effort.

Well they feel comfortable telling us gay marriage is a right when every vote on the issue by the people has said otherwise.

angryed on June 16, 2009 at 11:36 AM

is this California’s future?

SDarchitect on June 16, 2009 at 11:38 AM

Upstater85 on June 16, 2009 at 11:11 AM

sorry to disappoint ya…Wish I wasn’t from this area if that makes you feel better.

angelwing34215 on June 16, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Aaaah-finally…a state legislature that makes Illinois seem normal by comparison.

annoyinglittletwerp on June 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM

50Cent runs New York

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbM9EP2G0LM

[Chorus]
I get money, money is got (I I get it)
I get money, money is got (I I get it)
I get money, money is got (Yeah)
Money I got, money is got (I run New York!)

moonbatkiller on June 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Ed…How about “with his approval ratings somewhere below that of” Nancy Pelosi?

skitch1 on June 16, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Who runs the NYS State Senate?

A soon to be inmate of the NYS correctional system. Hiram Monserrate.

lawhawk on June 16, 2009 at 12:21 PM

A state Supreme Court judge this morning delayed ruling on whether last week’s Senate coup was legal, instead giving the sides until 1 p.m. today to try to reach a compromise.

Judge Thomas McNamara said “progress is being made” between Democrats and Republicans that would end the stalemate over who controls the state Senate, so he wants to let the talks continue.

Republicans are contending a leadership vote June 8 by the GOP and two dissident Democrats to oust the Democratic leadership was legal. Democrats claim the vote was illegal and instead are seeking a power-sharing agreement after the parties are split 31-31 in the 62-member chamber.

Peter Kiernan, counsel to Gov. David Paterson, said the Democratic governor has asked the sides to agree to a “stipulated session where the parties would come in and pass legislation that has to be passed without prejudice to their respective positions in the courts.”

Since Friday, McNamara has sought to have the sides reach agreement rather than having to rule on the legality of the leadership vote.Business in the Senate, meanwhile, has been stalled since last week’s coup with just four working days left in the legislative session. Local governments in particular are calling on the Senate to pass extenders for their sales-tax rates.

Defiant Republicans, however, indicated this morning that they will press ahead with 31 votes and implored Democratic senators to join them. On Monday, Republicans tried to hold session, but only 30 Republicans and one Democrat, rogue Sen. Pedro Espada, D-Bronx, showed up.

Republicans have called session for 3 p.m. today and said they have 62 bills they are ready to pass, including sales-tax extenders for many local governments.

“We need to have all 62 senators focused on doing their jobs by coming to session,” Espada said. “Instead of holding fund raisers and pursuing court challenges, everyone should be in the Senate chamber to vote in the best interests of their constituents on important bills.”

heroyalwhyness on June 16, 2009 at 12:27 PM

The preview key didn’t work for me – here’s the link

heroyalwhyness on June 16, 2009 at 12:30 PM

A deadlocked legislature sounds pretty good to me. They cannot do much damage when they are locked in debate. An efficient legislature is the definition of tyranny, not an inefficient one.

iconoclast on June 16, 2009 at 12:39 PM

Replace them with a horse that stomps his hoof once for yes, and twice for no.

Jeff from WI on June 16, 2009 at 12:49 PM

Not to worry, the millionaire tax, on those making $300,000 and up) will solve everything!!

You get what you pay for and who you voted for.

Vote for a half-white half-wit who cannot string together four words without the benefit of Western technology, that is what you get in the White House.

A deadlocked legislature sounds pretty good to me. They cannot do much damage when they are locked in debate. An efficient legislature is the definition of tyranny, not an inefficient one.

iconoclast on June 16, 2009 at 12:39 PM

I agree; the less legislation the better.

Bubba Redneck on June 16, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Maybe Obama can bulldoze 40% of New York, that ought to reduce the amount of senators required in the state house and fix the problem.

Spiritk9 on June 16, 2009 at 1:00 PM

The New York legislature is making the California legislature look good. And that takes some doing.

GarandFan on June 16, 2009 at 1:10 PM

Maybe Obama can bulldoze 40% of New York, that ought to reduce the amount of senators required in the state house and fix the problem.

Spiritk9 on June 16, 2009 at 1:00 PM

Outstanding idea. In fact, they’ll need new bulldozers so we can put some of those Caterpillar employees back to work in Peoria.

Jeff from WI on June 16, 2009 at 1:12 PM

maybe NY will get lucky and the impasse will continue for a long time.

Nothing is more dangerous than legislators with a clear majority.

notagool on June 16, 2009 at 1:16 PM

You know what Patterson is saying right now?

A Lt. Gov. appointment is a f***ing valuable thing.

pedestrian on June 16, 2009 at 1:34 PM

Oh… I thought you meant like Adirondacks “up there” :(

Upstater85 on June 16, 2009 at 11:11 AM

That’s where I am. And hubby works at 110 State St. only when he must. ;)

Connie on June 16, 2009 at 2:04 PM

When the U.s. congress has taken a break or recess, their ratings go up. Silence is golden. As soon as they just convene, their approval falls.

seven on June 16, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Well at least we in NY have the comfort of knowing thier not going to do anything today to SCREW us.

heshtesh on June 16, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Democrats are ill equipped to lead. When there is no leadership to be found anarchy always breaks out.

This is what liberal New Yorkers voted for. Hope they are enjoying their debacle.

DannoJyd on June 16, 2009 at 3:12 PM

To me, it would seem that the new guy is in charge until he has been replaced.

If the Dems are unable to do that, the new Republican remains in place.

RJL on June 16, 2009 at 4:19 PM

just a week before the legislature is due to go home for the summer

Gee, I wish I were a politician. It’s just like being a kid forever, complete with summer vacation. Some of us poor stiffs have to work year-round with (if lucky) a couple weeks, at most, of vacation time.

Big John on June 16, 2009 at 4:23 PM

is this California’s future?

SDarchitect on June 16, 2009 at 11:38 AM

You’re kidding, right? This is California’s past.

From National Review, February 1996: a serviceable synopsis of what happened in 1994 when Republican lawmakers earned majority status in the California State Assembly, which had been in the vise-grip of former Speaker of the Assembly, Democratic power broker, and future San Francisco mayor Willie Brown:

For a tutorial in [Willie] Brown’s manipulative skills, consider how he was able to prolong his czardom even after the November 1994 elections gave Republicans a one-vote majority in the 80-member Assembly. The man whom Bill Clinton has called “the real slick Willie” began by illegally removing Republican Dick Mountjoy from the Assembly. (Mountjoy had been elected to the State Senate but hadn’t yet assumed that office, so he was still legally entitled to sit in the lower house and vote in the speakership election when Brown had him ousted.)

Next, under Brown’s choreography, Republican Paul Horcher, who has long worn his opportunism on his sleeve, cast the deciding vote to give Brown’s speakership a reprieve. Several months later, when angry voters in Horcher’s district recalled him, Brown surrendered his post — but not his power — to another faithless Republican, Doris Allen. Democrats made her speaker, but Willie stood behind the throne.

She, too, soon found herself the target of an eventually successful recall, and a third wayward Republican, Brian Setencich, was recruited to join hands with the Democrats, who gratefully made him speaker.

L.N. Smithee on June 16, 2009 at 6:20 PM

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