The GOP would have more credibility …
posted at 3:50 pm on June 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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… if its staffers would quit sending out e-mails like this:
Newscoma posted details of a racist email sent from Sherri Goforth, legislative aid for Sen. Diane Black (R-Gallatin). The email depicts the Presidents of the United States with President Barack Obama as a pair of eyes in a black background.
I spoke with Sherri Goforth minutes ago to confirm she sent this email. She confirmed she had sent it and also said she had received a letter of reprimand from her superiors but said she will stay on the job.
When I asked her if she understood the controversial nature of the photo, Goforth would only say she felt very bad about accidentally sending it to the wrong list. When I gave her a second chance to address the controversial nature of the email, she again repeated that she only felt bad about sending it to the wrong list of people.
… and if the staffers in question would quit offering excuses like this:
“I went on the wrong email and I inadvertently hit the wrong button,” Goforth told NIT. “I’m very sick about it, and it’s one of those things I can’t change or take back.”
You can see the image at the link; I’ll skip reproducing it here. It’s well described by Nashville Is Talking, and it’s undeniably racist in nature. Given that, I’m at a loss as to why the Tennessee GOP kept Goforth in her position. Part of her job, whether explicitly stated or not, isnot to embarrass the Republican Party. Goforth just got an epic fail on that key mission. Keeping her, especially after the apology not for sending the picture at all but just for sending it to the wrong people, gives the distinct impression that the GOP considers this a minor issue and not a major blow to our credibility with black voters.
Tommy Christopher calls this the worst apology of the week. So far, it might be the worst apology of the year.
Conservatives just spent the last week roasting David Letterman for his crude and misogynistic remarks about Sarah Palin’s daughters. We need to demand the same level of responsibility from our own side, especially from within the Republican Party.
Update: AC Kleinheider says Ms. Goforth isn’t really a player in the game. I understand what he’s saying, but I think he underestimates how this can damage the party. If secretaries at the Tennessee Democratic Party were passing along racist or misogynistic e-mails, Republicans would rightly rip the Dems for it.
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Gore, whose father voted against the Civil Rights Act.
Robert, take a look at who Bush actually employed.
Bush appointed the first black woman as Secretary of State. He appointed the first Hispanic and Mexican-American to serve as US Attorney General. And he appointed the first Chinese-American and first Asian-American to be appoint to ANY President’s cabinet.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Unfortunately that picture trumps all of that.
People never remember the past – just what is out there like – a glaring spook picture.
She should be fired.
AprilOrit on June 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Funny my black friends worry about the same things I do – their job, the schools their kids go to, the moral decay of America, lack of patriotism. I guess “Black” people are not the homogeneous voting bloc you liberals like to make them out to be.
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Did you notice which candidate received over 95% of the black vote in the last election?
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 12:01 PM
That is well-known and not what I refuted.
No there isn’t.
That’s not what I refuted either. What I refuted was that his Kenyan Luo father is mostly Arab. He is not.
Also most black Americans (roughly 80%) have some white American ancestry, so mentioning Obama’s slave owner ancestry isn’t earth shaking news–at least not to black Americans.
Disclaim: my father is a Kenyan Luo who came over on the same plane as the elder Obama and my mother is a black American descended from slave–and slave owners.
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 12:02 PM
Agreed, or forced to wear the offending email around her neck in downtown for three weeks while pedestrians are prompted to explain to her what is offensive about the picture.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 12:03 PM
Though I don’t agree with this. Perception may be that it trumps all of that, but reality tells another story.
Black people voting for a black person? Yeah, you’ve got a real point there.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Yes, and the endorsement of Colin Powell. That is real racism when you vote for someone only because of their skin color. Blacks and rust belt people are instinctively voting Democrat because they always have but never actually get anything in return. At some point even they will wake up and vote issues.
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 12:05 PM
I agree: her and Letterman should be fired for making offense jokes in their workplace.
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 12:08 PM
As I point out to Republicans, John Kerry received 89% of the black vote in 2004. That 6% more black Americans wanted to see a black man become president is not surprising and not indicative of whether or not blacks as a whole wanted more government more that was so in 2004.
There is a mistaken but understandable notion that because the federal government put the clamp on slavery and on Jim Crow that the fed is always benevolent. Statists play on that notion.
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 12:09 PM
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Dude, it’s a new world order. Deal with it.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 12:09 PM
From what I understand, Obama’s father was officially classified as “Arab African” by the Kenyan government.
Would you have a link detailing this “discrediting” of Lamb’s investigation? I did a search but found nothing except the usual leftist run-around.
Rebar on June 17, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Nice of you to tell the truth.
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 12:10 PM
doesn’t matter does it? you’d vote democrat for Byrd, or the devil himself! just like some of my black friends, oh and I’m part black and I’m married to an african lady….they’re ‘christian’ but have no problem voting for the party of abortion, even though it seems most abortion clnics are in black neighborhoods….
right4life on June 17, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Obnoxiously myopic.
daesleeper on June 17, 2009 at 12:12 PM
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Just trying to help a (white) brotha out. Ya dig.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 12:13 PM
right4life on June 17, 2009 at 12:14 PM
You obviously do not have the intelligence to properly frame what political life is within the context of a democracy. Democrats will be in charge for 4 and maybe 8 years. Then they will have overreached and Republicans get elected, then they overreach the other way and Democrats get elected. There is no finality to the process and you are basking in a false sense of final victory which just isn’t there.
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 12:15 PM
I repeat: Kenyans (and some Americans) think that Muslim=Arab.
You mean like this? I don’t know of any Arabs who look like this. Here’s a photo of my father–same nationality, same, tribe, not a Muslim.
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 12:15 PM
I don’t think Letterman should be fired. I didn’t even before he apologized even though I was offended that he thinks it’s OK to make insulting jokes like that about a politician’s daughter.
I think people should “vote” with their remotes. If you think his humor is that bad, don’t watch but don’t try to get him fired. Talking and saying controversial things is part of his job. If anything, he’ll likely leave Palin alone for quite awhile now.
That said, this staffer’s job was to represent the GOP (albeit in a very small way), and she’s now failed at that horribly and thus should be fired or should have the courage to step down herself.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 12:15 PM
but both parties overreach to the LEFT….
right4life on June 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Old style GOP (Newt and crew) not the RINO (I reach across the isle to get slapped everyday) kind of GOP.
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 12:19 PM
I think that held true for Imus also and he got fired because by working for CBS he indirectly represented them. You seem to want to pick on chose what offensive jokes are OK with you and which are not.
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 12:20 PM
I keep hearing that Lamb’s investigation has been “discredited”, but when and by whom, no one can tell me.
I’ll ask again, if there is a link to a logical and sound refutation of Lamb based on facts, I’d very much like to see it. If not, then his findings are still valid.
Rebar on June 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Believe me, you are helping many people to see what impenetrable mentalities they have to combat–the hard-headed mentalities of people who are too busy gloating to realize that the seeds of discord and of the destruction of all Americans have been well watered.
Hard heads make for soft behinds. But you knew that.
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM
If you believe his words rather than your lying eyes then I can’t help you.
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 12:23 PM
right4life on June 17, 2009 at 12:12 PM
I’m weeping for another “lost” brother.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Kenyas designate all Muslims as Arab whether they are genetically Arab or not.
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 12:25 PM
I didn’t support Imus being fired either. Had he been working as a representative of the GOP, then yes, sure, I’d have wanted him fired.
See, that’s my selection process.
Does it really matter?
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 12:27 PM
so are you a christian? how do you support the party of abortion and gay marriage?
you support a failed socialist ideology that has NEVER worked ever in history….I know you think you’re so smart…but you’re backing something that leads to slavery. Ever been to Africa?? socialism has done ‘wonders’ for it….democrats have failed here in detroit and other cities…how does anyone back a system that has failed so greatly??? oh I guess since you’re doing OK …hell with everyone else….
right4life on June 17, 2009 at 12:31 PM
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM
I agree wholeheartedly. Barack Obama is planting seeds and the tide has turned for good. Of course there will be setbacks but for every step back we take two steps forward. Just 50 years ago I had to ride the back of the bus, coudnt eat at certain restaurants, stay in an upscale hotel, drink from certain water fountains, join certain golf clubs, er well maybe that’s still the case. Now a black man is the WH. American culture is getting browner and more inclusive and there is nothing that can stop it. I’m loving it.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 12:31 PM
oh but you won’t be doing so well for very long….socialism is going to bankrupt the country…my wife, who is from Zimbabwe, thinks we are on the same road….enjoy….
right4life on June 17, 2009 at 12:32 PM
A couple photos does not invalidate Lamb’s research. Again, I’d like to see a refutation based on facts, if there is one available.
No, it’s purely academic interest on my part. I do enjoy the irony though, that leftists who believe in “white guilt” absolve Obama for it, even though he is as “guilty” as anyone else.
Rebar on June 17, 2009 at 12:33 PM
No, but Kenneth Lamb conjured an elaborate fable about the very phenotypically black African Obama Sr. being genetically mostly Arab in order to attempt to alienate Obama from black Americans.
Anyone with the slightest knowledge of Kenyan cultural practices–not to mention eyes and a functioning BS detector–knew that Lamb’s elaborately mapped fable was embarrassingly illogical. But some people want to hold onto to this fable, for various reasons.
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 12:37 PM
And what has Obama actually done aside from getting elected to make this country a better place for blacks?
You’re just stuck on this idea that Republicans are racist and nothing else matters. That’s so incredibly shallow.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 12:38 PM
yeah its getin more MEXICAN…have ya heard how they’re driving black people out of neighborhoods in LA???
oh yeah the mexican gangs are real ‘inclusive’ well I have heard La Eme works with the Aryan Brotherhood….
right4life on June 17, 2009 at 12:40 PM
This is why I think it’s over.
I do not think conservatism can “sway” the hard heads and we either will have to put up with them or secede. They are lost, and they will destroy this country with us in it.
The only way we will be able to preserve America as our Founders intended will be to separate ourselves from these barbarians and start anew elsewhere, i.e., Texas and other red states that would secede – just as the Pilgrims left for a new world because they could not practice their religion in peace.
Let the parasites destroy themselves, and let us go our own way, forming a better and more perfect union without them.
atheling on June 17, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Have you seen the last republican party convention? Lily white compared to the democtratic party convention.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 12:41 PM
atheling on June 17, 2009 at 12:40 PM
I hear they have some available land in Pakistan.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Again, have you see the employee rolls? Sure the Democrats use their largest voting block well but do they actually do anything to help them out even in the slightest?
You haven’t even bothered to make up an answer to my question. Nothing you’ve posted here indicates that your loyalty to the Democrats has anything to do with anything but the color of your skin.
Ah. I was missing why it would matter. I must admit, the picture seems to speak for itself. I don’t even see any half traces of Arabic ancestry there.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM
Sorry but yes, the photos do refute this. So does Obama Jr.’s appearance. So does the knowledge of the cultural history of my father’s tribe and of religions which proselytized in the region. My father and Obama’s father are tribally and phenotypically identical. But one is called “Arab” by the Kenya government and the other is not. Why? Because that is the what the Kenya government says about all Muslims. The Kenya government conflates Muslim and Arab.
My father, who could be Obama Sr.’s twin is not designated as Arab by the Kenyan government. Why not? Because his family are not Muslims. This isn’t rocket science, but it was too complicated for Mr. Lamb, apparently.
I pray for you–that when you wake up, it won’t be too late.
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM
and my net worth…
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Texas went dark purple this year. Don’t count on it. Large cities generally go for more socialistic policies, and we have Houston, Dallas and Fort Worth; Austin, which is San Fran-lite and San Antonio which demographically is going Democrat as well.
No, if you want a country that genuinely has your best interest at heart, it’s time to draw battle lines now and fight for it. There is nowhere to run to.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 12:51 PM
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 12:49 PM
And you’re still my brother. Brother.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 12:52 PM
10% unemployment is good for you? It’s been disastrous for most I know. Are you a repo man?
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Why you ask, missed a payment on your pickup?
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM
In other words, you don’t have a link to a refutation of Lamb’s research based on facts.
Ok, thanks for looking.
Rebar on June 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Actually he is only half black (was raised by his white mother) so you are only half there.
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 12:56 PM
My guess is this character has never worked an honest job, just like his mentor, B.Hussein Obama.
daesleeper on June 17, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Being a woman, it would be impossible for me to be your brother.
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 12:57 PM
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 12:56 PM
So I suppose if Barack Obama punched you in your face on the street and ran off you would tell the police that a half black man did it. I get it now.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Absolutely. Plus, it is not just black voters that this hurts our credibility with. It is every intelligent person on earth.
What bothers me the most is that this tennessee GOPer also professes to be a “christian” and belongs to one of the many heretical protestant sects.
That is the sad part..truly the protestant sectarians are the leading cause of atheism in this country.
Right now I am ashamed to be registered republican and associated with the unchecked racism that presides in this party.
Those of you who are racists and belong to some form of sectarian “christianity”..you need to leave your demonic racist beliefs behind and heed the words of Christ God who clearly tells us that there is only one race,the human race, and that all are one in Christ Jesus!
All of you racists need to understand that the only reason you are racist to begin with is because you are SELF CENTERED and SELF OBSSESSED. Racism is purely self centeredness,self obssession,fear and paranoia and reactionary hatred.
Racism is a salvational issue in that it takes you away from God and toward your own self obssession and prevents you from participating in the Divine Energies of God.
But is also a social issue in that it hurts many people around you and influences others to participate in your hatred and heresy.
In the Orthodox Church there is no racism.We have black priests and deacons,asian priests and deacons and all races.
We in the Orthodox Church who receive the Body of Christ in the One Holy Apostolic Church, we are the Body of Christ and we are all one in Christ regardless of our ethnicity.
Look.. those of you who defend racism or evade with relativistic excuses ARE racists and you need to re-examine and abandon your hateful and hurtful racist beliefs, not only for your own benefit but for the benefit of all those around you and the benefit of the republican party also.
St Maximus the Confessor
MaximusConfessor on June 17, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Baldi’s a woman, so, no, she’s not.
Haha. That’s so funny. Cause I’m white and Republican, I MUST own a pickup!!!! Haha. So funny and so not at all racist, cause I’m white and you’re not.
What’s next, ask if I can’t dance?
For the record, I don’t make payments on cars. It’s a waste of money and a large part of the reason our country is f-ed. I buy what I can afford and save for what I can’t. Crazy, I know.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 12:59 PM
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Then you are my beautiful nubian sister. Sister.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Oh, I already know you can’t dance but that’s ok.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 1:00 PM
You don’t live in my world. If any man punched me in the face I would draw my (legally carried) concealed weapon and shot him. Unlike you I do not need the government or its institutions to take of myself.
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Are you telling me that I don’t know my own family tribal history? Are saying that my father–Kenyan journalist Philip Ochieng–doesn’t know his own history? You’re as arrogant and obtuse as Obama and his minions are. Of course the two traits go hand in hand.
Stop spreading ignorant lies about a people and a tribe just because your ideological enemy belong to that tribe.
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 1:03 PM
Esthier:
If we started free state projects and moved to turn states red and promote secession it can be done. Leave robertnyc212 and his ilk in the blue states and large cities – they will self destruct.
atheling on June 17, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Maximus Confessor:
Your “exhortation” hardly helps when you falsely accuse us of being “racist”. YOu ought to be talking to robert and his kind: they are the true racists.
atheling on June 17, 2009 at 1:05 PM
atheling on June 17, 2009 at 1:04 PM
I think they tried that already in the 1860’s. How did that work out?
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 1:06 PM
I’m not Nubian. I’m an American. My father isn’t even a Nubian (fables again). He is a Kenyan Luo.
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 1:06 PM
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 1:06 PM
Nuance
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Woah there. I asked for a link, none was provided. Fly off the handle when someone really insults you, I was just asking for information.
Information I’m still waiting for by the way.
Rebar on June 17, 2009 at 1:09 PM
I know black people who wouldn’t spit on someone like you if you were on fire. If I went around fist-bumping everyone who was white as “my brother” you’d call me racist. You seem to assume that everyone who looks like you thinks like you – now that is racist.
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 1:16 PM
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 1:16 PM
I would give you a fist bump in a heartbeat. You’re my brother too.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 1:18 PM
If you want to claim an African tribe you might want to claim a West African one, since it is more likely that your ancestors descended from one of those.
How does one refute a fable? That’s totalitarian logic. “Prove you’re not Arab.”
There is enough info about Kenya from reputable sources–from people who are Kenyan like my father who is not some anonymous dude in Kenya, but very well-known; from people who have studied Kenya all of their lives, i.e. like Kenneth Lamb has not–that if you were really interested, you would have found it already.
But okay I’ll play your little game. Start here. We’ll see how long it take for you to say “not enough.”
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 1:20 PM
Yes Robert is a racist and ought to be ashamed of himself.
Of course that does not excuse anyone else’s racism though.
Of course this guy here is a far worse racist (and dangerous)and actually creates Robert’s racism.
Hey dpeirson,
What does Christ Jesus say to do when someone hits you in the face? Does He say shoot him?
MaximusConfessor on June 17, 2009 at 1:21 PM
baldilocks on June 17, 2009 at 1:20 PM
Give em hell sistah.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 1:22 PM
…
St Maximus the Confessor
MaximusConfessor on June 17, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Uh oh. St. Olaf is back from the land of Banishment.
kingsjester on June 17, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Either way.
daesleeper on June 17, 2009 at 1:40 PM
What is with you people..that is the third time I’ve got that today.
No. I’m not St Olaf. My name is St Maximus the Confessor.
Maybe you are not aware that all Orthodox Christians receive a Saint Name upon baptism.
Maybe it would behoove you to understand that there are 600 million+ Orthodox Christians throughout the world.
We are actually the largest Church in that we have more practicing Orthodox than practicing roman catholics.
Time to learn a few things and come out of your bubble.
MaximusConfessor on June 17, 2009 at 1:40 PM
what a moron…are you an anti-semite like st. olaf??
and what religion was WILBERFOCE again???
right4life on June 17, 2009 at 1:50 PM
I notice you have no response for my last posts to you…no surprise there….I’ve noticed people like you cannot move beyond talking points….
right4life on June 17, 2009 at 1:52 PM
You know nothing about me other than my skin color, and apparently that’s enough for you to make a judgment about the rest of me.
I imagine you find that thought process abhorrent in whites.
Doubtful. People like that will always find someone else to take from. Take away prosperous states that help fund the “free” medicine and other “giveaways” Obama has planned, and we’ll learn first hand how wars are started over resources.
I take it you never met Olaf. If you did, maybe you’d understand.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 1:55 PM
The point is, this racist woman has a position in the GOP and is spreading racist materials and HAS NOT LOST HER JOB.
Therefore racism is de-facto accepted and endorsed in the GOP.
This needs to stop right now.
MaximusConfessor on June 17, 2009 at 1:59 PM
In Delaware, the largest growth of population is Indian-Americans, moving from India. You cannot go to a 7/11 or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking.”
thats joe biden….so I’m sure you’ll denounce racism in the dmeocratic party…..right…
right4life on June 17, 2009 at 2:02 PM
You stated that Lamb’s research was discredited. I asked for backup of that statement, and all I’ve gotten are personal attacks. Your link has nothing confirming or refuting Lamb’s research, it’s irrelevant, as are your anecdotal examples.
Either back up your assertion, with a link detailing the facts showing that Lamb is wrong, or say that you misspoke.
Either way back off the personal attacks.
Rebar on June 17, 2009 at 2:50 PM
right4life on June 17, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Brother, let’s agree to disagree here. We have bigger fish to fry.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 2:54 PM
You know nothing about me other than my skin color, and apparently that’s enough for you to make a judgment about the rest of me.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 1:55 PM
You are absolutely right but that still doesn’t change the fact that you can’t dance.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 2:56 PM
You must be another city dwelling idiot. I take care of myself; I don’t nor seek help for the all powerful government to settle all my problems. How does defending myself make me a racist anyway? And if all the Christians ever did was to turn the other cheek there would be no more Christians in this world.
A time to kill, and a time to heal;
Galatians 5:22-23
You need to be careful how you label people.
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Dumb-Think. You really are stretching credibility by making that leap. You obviously have an agenda and will paint anyone a racist.
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 3:02 PM
Right. Cause I’m white. It doesn’t matter that I took classes as a kid or that I’m a musician. It just matters that I’m white.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 3:07 PM
Apparently, the HR standard is a write up for a first offense of this kind, and a termination for the second.
The Dems, of course, want her head. I’m a bit surprised that Lt Gov Ramsey wasn’t more forceful.
ladyingray on June 17, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Or burnt coke applied to her face – preferably still hot.
What a stupid women.
AprilOrit on June 17, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 3:07 PM
No need to be ashamed. So what you can’t dance. I’m good at basketball amongst other things. No worries.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Did you hear the clean up crews found a body at Bonnaroo?
ladyingray on June 17, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Go to any on line encyclopedia and read about Kenya and the Luo tribe. The information and images are there for the taking. It’s not as neatly packaged as you want because encyclopedias don’t routinely set about to disprove every error made by every writer. Read enough about Kenya and you will discover that Baldilocks is correct and Kenneth Lamb is wrong.
Or, do a Google image search for Barack Obama Father, Barack Obama aunt, Barack Obama grandmother, Barack Obama africa family, and you will see dozens of pictures of people who look like they are of West African descent, and none that look like they are Arabs. So, you will discover that Baldilocks is correct and Kenneth Lamb is wrong.
Loxodonta on June 17, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Boy, both of you need to put this in perspective. What she did was stupid and racist – yes. But since when does stupidity warrant punishment beyond ridicule. If I steal something at the local supermarket I get a slap on the wrist – so in your world saying something stupid and hurtful is worse than that. This sissyfication of this country is going to far – bring back doge ball!
dpierson on June 17, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Loxodonta on June 17, 2009 at 3:18 PM
Lox, please add MaximumConfessor to your list of Trolls. He was previously banned as St. Olaf.
kingsjester on June 17, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Excuse me, that’s MaximusConfessor after St. Maximus.
kingsjester on June 17, 2009 at 3:23 PM
I confess I’ve noticed that maximum arrogance is often tied to minimum humility.
Loxodonta on June 17, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Loxodonta on June 17, 2009 at 3:27 PM
African Elephant, am I on your watch list too?
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Burnt coke? That’s one I’ve never heard of.
Ashamed? Of a skill that requires really no skill at all but the ability to listen (something you very obviously don’t have).
And I’m sure you’re great at basketball. Keep telling yourself that you live up to all the hype a black man is supposed to live up to. I mean, it’s not like you’re less of a man just because you’re really not that “big” or because you can’t dunk, especially not when you can pretend to be all those things online around people who really don’t care what you are in real life.
Actually, that is the punishment I was suggesting. Ridicule. I’m all in favor of bringing back public shaming. And that’s all I suggested.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Dang. No, I hadn’t heard that, though I can’t say I’m completely surprised. There were so many drugs there, and the percentages favored the harder drugs. All you had to do was sit near your tent and eventually some guy would come around selling.
Still, at 3pm on Monday we were all supposed to be out of there. I don’t get how he could have been alive then and later found dead in his tent.
So sad.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 3:46 PM
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 3:43 PM
So dancing requires no skill. I guess all those dance lessons you took went to waste.
And yes it’s true, I’m packing. I wear a size 14 shoe for goodness sakes.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 4:02 PM
Memorized steps take memorization, hardly a skill but something useful to be taught. No one teaches how to dance but rather specific steps.
That’s like saying teachers teach how to think, when nothing could be further from the truth.
So, my brother wears a 16. All you’re telling me is that you’re not short. What’s inside is a nasty surprise for someone unlucky woman to find out when you trick her into coming home with you.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 4:09 PM
So, my brother wears a 16.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 4:09 PM
I’d check your family tree but not down his pants, unless you want to confirm another rumor about your kind.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM
That’s like saying teachers teach how to think, when nothing could be further from the truth.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 4:09 PM
I agree with you again. Your teachers never taught you to think.
robertnyc212 on June 17, 2009 at 4:16 PM
My kind? I guess that’s somehow better than “you people” again, cause I’m white.
Yours certainly taught you what to think, but no, no one can teach you how. You either know, or you don’t. But then you prefer relying on Big Brother to tell you what to do and when and have no problem regurgitating the same to others.
As of this point, 8 pages in, you’ve still yet to say what’s so great about Obama or Democrats other than some vague notion that unlike Bush, they like black people, or so you like to believe, because thinking otherwise would require, well, thought.
You rail on racism as though you know what you’re talking about but have no problem with the bigotry you’re showing me. If you’re trying to goad me into returning the favor don’t waste your time. I have no tolerance for it, even though you seem intent on fulfilling all your stereotypes as though it defines you, but who am I to say it doesn’t? Maybe that’s all you are, a caricature of a black man bordering on racist for it’s over reliance on stereotype.
Esthier on June 17, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Of course sending out a racist email should be a firing offense if you work for the Republican Party. (Anyone who doesn’t understand why she should be fired is, no offense intended, naive, ill-informed and lacking in judgment.) Perhaps the offense she really should be fired for is stupidity (low IQ). And whoever didn’t have the sense to fire her should be fired, also. This man (Obama) along with his party is wrecking my future and all these jackasses can think about is making racist jokes?? If this is the opposition party we have to rely on, we are screwed.
People in Tennessee (or whichever state this is): do not contribute to the Republican party there until you are sure that there is some sign of intelligent life in its staffers, leaders, etc. Go third party if you have to.
chris999 on June 17, 2009 at 4:47 PM
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