California gets no bailout love from White House

posted at 1:35 pm on June 16, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

California hoped that their dire economic predicament might get enough sympathy from the Obama administration to get a GM-style bailout.  Sympathy, the White House has in abundance, but not cash — at least not for self-indulgent states who don’t want to exercise some fiscal discipline.  The White House finally drew the line on throwing cash at the insolvent:

The Obama administration has turned back pleas for emergency aid from one of the biggest remaining threats to the economy — the state of California.

Top state officials have gone hat in hand to the administration, armed with dire warnings of a fast-approaching “fiscal meltdown” caused by a budget shortfall. Concern has grown inside the White House in recent weeks as California’s fiscal condition has worsened, leading to high-level administration meetings. But federal officials are worried that a bailout of California would set off a cascade of demands from other states. …

After a series of meetings, Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner, top White House economists Lawrence Summers and Christina Romer, and other senior officials have decided that California could hold on a little longer and should get its budget in order rather than rely on a federal bailout.

Gee, you think?  States have sovereign rights in the Constitution, including the right to tax and govern themselves.  California citizens should be embarrassed to run to the federal Treasury to solve their budget crisis.  The Congressional delegation should demand fiscal discipline and responsibility and resist federal encroachment on California’s sovereignty.

That is what a bailout will mean, as the administration strongly hinted:

These policymakers continue to watch the situation closely and do not rule out helping the state if its condition significantly deteriorates, a senior administration official said. But in that case, federal help would carry conditions to protect taxpayers and make similar requests for aid unattractive to other states, the official said. The official did not detail those conditions.

Perhaps Congress should set the rules so that any state applying for a federal bailout will get treated like the District of Columbia.  Since they seem keen on surrendering their sovereign status, they can have non-voting delegations to the House and Senate until they repay whatever federal dollars they take to cover their shortfall.  Considering the vast majority of California’s elected representatives on Capitol Hiill, that would be in practical terms a net plus for Congress, although an egregious violation of the Constitution.  (Yes, I’m being glib.)

California needs to “bail” itself out by cutting spending and eliminating unnecessary services.  The state has spent the last several decades expanding government far beyond the necessities of actual governance and extending into social engineering.  It has one of the highest tax burdens in the nation, which belies the notion that the legislature just hasn’t taxed Californians enough. Now that this last avenue of responsibility-shirking has been closed, Sacramento needs to start making the tough decisions that they’ve avoided for most of the last 40 years.

It’s at least somewhat heartening to see the White House express a limit to federal bailouts. Too bad they didn’t stop before getting to automakers.

Will they do it?  So far … not so good:

Tobacco and oil severance taxes are key elements of a revenue-raising package that will be unveiled today by Assembly Democrats. …

“The problem is that this economic crisis was caused by an enormous and rapid drop in revenues, so to ignore the need for new revenues is irresponsible,” said Evans, D-Santa Rosa.

Besides the tax on cigarettes and oil extraction, the Assembly possibilities include closing corporate or business loopholes that were approved as compromises in past budget negotiations.

Jon Fleischman says Arnold won’t play along this time:

The attempt by Democrats to hike taxes are not surprising in the slightest.  After all, we are talking about Democrat caucuses that are split between complete union hacks, whose fealty to the public employee union bosses leave them unable to vote for cuts that would negatively impact the core mission of the unions (to increase the wages and benefits for union members, as well as increase the size of the union) — and liberal ideologues to whom making any cuts in social welfare programs, let alone cuts of this magnitude, are heresy to even consider.

Fortunately for California taxpayers, Governor Schwarzenegger is not tone deaf, and has made it crystal clear over and over that he will not support tax increases as a part of resolving the state’s fiscal crisis (at least going forward).  So I would expect a pretty quick veto from the Governor if these or other taxes are passed on a majority vote and placed on his desk.

We’ll see.

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manofaiki on June 16, 2009 at 1:36 PM

Stop all benefits for illegal aliens, and much of the problem goes away.

Right_of_Attila on June 16, 2009 at 1:40 PM

i’ll be back, NOT!

SHARPTOOTH on June 16, 2009 at 1:41 PM

Stop all benefits for illegal aliens, and much of the problem goes away.

Right_of_Attila on June 16, 2009 at 1:40 PM

don’t let anninca hear that, all her freinds are illegals.

SHARPTOOTH on June 16, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Wait a minute… you mean all those illegals don’t actually help the economy??..all those environmental regs don’t actually create “green” jobs?? Sanctuary Cities don’t bring in money…just illegals?? WTF!`
I’m shocked!

Somebody been lying.

Itchee Dryback on June 16, 2009 at 1:43 PM

California needs to “bail” itself out by cutting spending and eliminating unnecessary services.

Except that they won’t. CA’s Department of Justice is down 90 million already, but will they touch the bloated education or welfare budgets? Oh hell no.

TheUnrepentantGeek on June 16, 2009 at 1:43 PM

Now will all the Arnold shills and enablers please step forward and apologize for ever supporting him?

*crickets*

Mcguyver on June 16, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Stop all benefits for illegal aliens, and much of the problem goes away.

Right_of_Attila on June 16, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Don’t forget to bill Mexico for the cost of incarcerating all their criminals.

Roc on June 16, 2009 at 1:44 PM

Remind me again, how much oil is off the coast of California?

pedestrian on June 16, 2009 at 1:45 PM

After a series of meetings, Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner, top White House economists Lawrence Summers and Christina Romer, and other senior officials have decided that California could hold on a little longer and should get its budget in order rather than rely on a federal bailout.

A little longer? Like after ObamaCare is passed?

After the administration gets that, then they can ride the tide of media goodwill to a California bailout without it ever being reported.

myrenovations on June 16, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Since they seem keen on surrendering their sovereign status, they can have non-voting delegations to the House and Senate until they repay whatever federal dollars they take to cover their shortfall.

Dude! Right ON! I like this idea a LOT! Make it a law.

ThackerAgency on June 16, 2009 at 1:46 PM

Poor Hollywood.

Firebird on June 16, 2009 at 1:46 PM

If they drill for their own oil offshore, that would help the country and help their budget too. Nah, that makes too much sense and is too easy.

ThackerAgency on June 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM

Stop all benefits for illegal aliens, and much of the problem goes away.

Right_of_Attila on June 16, 2009 at 1:40 PM

Also, they can cut or consolidate certain departments. Buy the way, force the SEIU to compomise.

Sanjoboy on June 16, 2009 at 1:47 PM

compromise, sorry

Sanjoboy on June 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Just out of curiosity, what happens if California does run out of time to get its budget crisis in order? Can a state actually declare bankruptcy?

Doughboy on June 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM

As a California citizen, I am not embarrassed. Citizens are not the ones running to the government for a bailout. Our politicians are doing that. I am, however, embarrassed that the majority of voters in my beloved state keep sending these fools back to Sacramento.

Bring on the tea parties.

surfhut on June 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Poor Hollywood.

Firebird on June 16, 2009 at 1:46 PM

My guess is that all of them are sprinting to low- or no-income-tax states: Nevada, Texas, Florida and the like.

BuckeyeSam on June 16, 2009 at 1:49 PM

surfhut on June 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM

+1

Sanjoboy on June 16, 2009 at 1:49 PM

You mean California may have to make sacrifices? I am sorry but liberals do not sacrifice…they take sacrifices.

right2bright on June 16, 2009 at 1:50 PM

You can’t tax the crap out of smokers and oil for the rest of the States life!

Hell smokers can’t even smoke OUTSIDE in some areas anymore.

Maybe they should go and check all taxing items that aren’t needed? Like illegals? Schools, Teacher pay, government employee pay, Gov. Exc Employee Pay (AKA Ahnuld, you don’t need the MONEY!)… geez maybe get OUT of unions?

**palm meet head**

upinak on June 16, 2009 at 1:50 PM

Great! Another year of California not having a budget for months after the budget ‘deadline,’ threats of government shutdowns, extensions of government services ‘until we pass the budget,’ and finally more debt.

I hope this year we do have some sort of melt down in this state. People need to realize the consequences affect them personally, as individuals. The last time that happened was when Californians went without electricity for a few days…things changed real fast.

mperek on June 16, 2009 at 1:51 PM

BuckeyeSam on June 16, 2009 at 1:49 PM

No way, they would never do anything hypocritical like that.

gsherin on June 16, 2009 at 1:51 PM

My guess is that all of them are sprinting to low- or no-income-tax states: Nevada, Texas, Florida and the like.

BuckeyeSam on June 16, 2009 at 1:49 PM

Have we told you about our other fence!

HoustonRight on June 16, 2009 at 1:51 PM

California citizens should be embarrassed

Haha..funniest line in the whole story. You got a better chance of having Totus letting Obama do a speech on his own.

MDWNJ on June 16, 2009 at 1:52 PM

They passed the bong to Obama and he passed it back empty…..so sad

bladegripp on June 16, 2009 at 1:53 PM

I’m a Californian and I’m glad the state gets to choke on it for awhile. How about education cuts in the form of eliminating the funding for so-called “diversity training” or pushing extra programs. I’ll allow a cut in my kid’s music program if the sorry teachers can actually make sure they can read and do math at a 12th grade level.
They could also reduce the prison benefits across the board. No exercise equipment or anything but basic nutritional food for prisoners.

BakerAllie on June 16, 2009 at 1:53 PM

Can a state actually declare bankruptcy?

Doughboy on June 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Yes, although none have.
The closest was Orange County in Calif. declared bankruptcy in 1994 (?), and a year later was solvent.
Orange County had the budget the size of some states.

right2bright on June 16, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Glad I got out of CA/San Francisco last year before all hell broke loose.

txag92 on June 16, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Keep an eye out on how the out-years of the stimulus package are doled out by Washington. The closer we get to the 2010 midterms, and later to the 2012 election, the more likely a lot of that trillion already approved will finds its way to California Democratic pols, to announce new government funding grants to bail out the state legislators and keep themselves in office.

jon1979 on June 16, 2009 at 1:54 PM

It’s at least somewhat heartening to see the White House express a limit to federal bailouts. Too bad they didn’t stop before getting to automakers getting started.

MarkTheGreat on June 16, 2009 at 1:54 PM

Seriously, Texas is running fine. The lat thing we need is a bunch of left coast liberals coming and trying to straiten us out.

HoustonRight on June 16, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Somebody been lying

Ya think itchee? :)
I’m afraid this state legislature would rather let the whole thing tank before they would make the hard decisions. Pathetic bunch of wimps if you ask me.

It’s pretty simple. Cut everything an equal percentage, enough to balance out. Then tell them that is the ceiling, go ahead and play around with where the money goes, just dont spend 1 dime more.

Let the voters decide if they want to spend money on promoting a better lifestyle for illegals. They won’t go for it, acorn aside.

JusDreamin on June 16, 2009 at 1:55 PM

federal help would carry conditions to protect taxpayers and make similar requests for aid unattractive to other states, the official said. The official did not detail those conditions.

Federal money has strings? Conditions?

Where have I heard that before? Sounds familiar somehow.

P..Pa..Pal…

Nah, that’s not it.

cs89 on June 16, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Just out of curiosity, what happens if California does run out of time to get its budget crisis in order? Can a state actually declare bankruptcy?

Doughboy on June 16, 2009 at 1:48 PM

Municipalities have done so, I think. I may be mistaken, but there might even be a particular chapter in the federal bankruptcy code along the lines of Chapter 7 (liquidation), Chapter 11 (business reorganization), and Chapter 13 (individual something-or-other). That said, I don’t know if anything applies to the states. Whatever the case, it has to be a state problem. California created its own mess; it should clean itself up.

BuckeyeSam on June 16, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Spelling is out the window..sorry typing too fast

HoustonRight on June 16, 2009 at 1:55 PM

They say they’re going to make cuts, but then can’t go through with it…

Santa Barbara News-Press
MARCI WORMSER, NEWS-PRESS STAFF WRITER
June 13, 2009 12:00 AM

The Santa Barbara County Board of Supervisors on Friday gave a last-minute reprieve to a handful of the county’s public safety and human service departments by restoring $4.3 million to their budgets, thus softening the blow of deep cuts for fiscal year 2009-10.

ProudPatriot on June 16, 2009 at 1:55 PM

Seriously, Texas is running fine. The lat thing we need is a bunch of left coast liberals coming and trying to straiten us out.

HoustonRight on June 16, 2009 at 1:55 PM

We’ll never let that happen. Too many gunowners down here.

Doughboy on June 16, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Remind me again, how much oil is off the coast of California?

pedestrian on June 16, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Not enough to kill whales over that’s for sure! Or something?

SouthernGent on June 16, 2009 at 1:56 PM

Hasta la vista baby!

cmsinaz on June 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Libs already control CA. Obama sees that there’s no political capital to buy.

marklmail on June 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM

This door’s wide open now — it’s gonna happen — whether you like it or not!

–Gavin Newsom, future Governor Corrupt of California

The Ugly American on June 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Dude! Right ON! I like this idea a LOT! Make it a law.

[ThackerAgency on June 16, 2009 at 1:46 PM]

Unpaid, or paid by the state if they still want them there doing squat. There’s no reason to have a spectators getting paid by the Feds for watching. Charge ‘em rent on their offices, too.

Dusty on June 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Remind me again, how much oil is off the coast of California?

pedestrian on June 16, 2009 at 1:45 PM

Proven Reserves? Or established? How about speculated reserves?

:) you sure you want to know?

upinak on June 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Doughboy on June 16, 2009 at 1:56 PM

But I’ve only got six cases of ammo

HoustonRight on June 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM

To stop the illegal immigration issue and its drain on state budgets, we also have to drop the “anchor baby” rights to US citizenship. Once an anchor baby is downloaded on US soil, that anchor baby enables the illegal parents to get state benefits and a path to citizenship via that anchor baby when it turns 18 and can sponsor the parents.

Most countries do not extend citizenship to children born in their countries from parents who are illegally in those countries. Why do we? We need to CLOSE this loophole by eliminating citizenship to any children born here if their parents are not here legally.

karenhasfreedom on June 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM

Let the migration begin! Revenue will deteriorate even more….

cmsinaz on June 16, 2009 at 1:58 PM

There are more conservatives here than people think. Outside of the large cities (San Francisco/Los Angeles) a large chunk of the state is red. We just tend to be a little quieter than the loudmouths, but I think that has been changing too as things like the tea parties get going.

BakerAllie on June 16, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Doughboy on June 16, 2009 at 1:56 PM

No kidding. You should see my uncle’s arsenal. It’d make the army jealous.

txag92 on June 16, 2009 at 1:59 PM

As a Californian, I’m not embarrassed… I’m pi$$ed.

salmonczar on June 16, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Can’t California just raise taxes on those making more than $250,000 a year? I’ve heard that it’s a foolproof way of eliminating budget shortfalls.

Tonus on June 16, 2009 at 1:59 PM

OK, I’ll throw this out there. This isn’t concrete, but it’s something I’ve been thinking about for a while.

We on the right may think that this is a victory for us… You know, Obama hasn’t bailed out that wasteful state of California! Well, yeah, I guess it’s a victory, or is it?

1) In the worst scenario, if Alaska or Wyoming were in as bad of shape as California, would Obama bail them out? Perhaps. It would be a GM-style bailout. He’d come in, send his czars, heck, fire the governors, and implement the Obama Way… The thing is, California has pretty much implemented Obama’s plan long before Obama was even elected. Obama bailing out California would allow the right to blow his economic plan to shreds because he would be conceding that his plan would most likely need a bailout (just like FDR and Johnson’s great plans did…). Further, in order to be consistent, he’d essentially become the CEO of the state. The Supreme Court would most likely get involved, the masses of moderate democrats would probably not like this, and all of his buddies would need to take a pay cut. No, I think Obama would rather “nationalize” Alaska and turn it into one huge park than to directly get involved with California.

2) That said, don’t be surprised to see him and Congress try to funnel money to CA.

3) In many ways, the Obama California policy could be linked to his policy with Iran. One must wonder if Obama admires certain aspects of the Iran model. No, I’m not trying to suggest that he’d want to copy every aspect of Iran, but I truly believe that Obama is of the mind set that the most barbaric countries in the world are simply being misunderstood – painted ugly with the Right’s paint brush. He’d have us dialogue with them and learn from their “culture.” “Bailing out” Iran with anything more than an “Uh…” would acknowledge that the Western (American in particular) model is superior… Remember the left’s reaction with the Soviet Union… Gorbachev is their hero… While Obama essentially tells the students to go fail, he then condescends on Israel… Why? They are suppressing that which he has admiration for.

OK, I threw it out there… Like I said, it’s not concrete.

Upstater85 on June 16, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Can’t California just raise taxes on those making more than $250,000 a year? I’ve heard that it’s a foolproof way of eliminating budget shortfalls.

Tonus on June 16, 2009 at 1:59 PM

LOL

cmsinaz on June 16, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Since they seem keen on surrendering their sovereign status, they can have non-voting delegations to the House and Senate until they repay whatever federal dollars they take to cover their shortfall.

I have an idea. How about only giving California 1 Senator for each 18,000,000 residents while Montana gets 1 Senator for each 250,000 residents. Oh wait….

tommylotto on June 16, 2009 at 2:00 PM

This door’s wide open now — it’s gonna happen — whether you like it or not!

–Gavin Newsom, future Governor Corrupt of California

The Ugly American on June 16, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Good God! That would be the final nail in the coffin for California. Governor Gavin Newsom.

Doughboy on June 16, 2009 at 2:01 PM

I suppose a state could file for something like a bankruptcy, similar to what happened with Orange County in 1996.

However the greatest damage will come before then, when Standard and Poors downgrades California Municipal bonds, in the billions of dollars, to junk bond status. Currently CA bonds are rated at A, three more downgrades and they will be at BBB- or junk bond grade. At that level many investment institutions (retirement investments) will have to dump these bonds as their investment guidelines do not allow them to hold junk bonds in their portfolios. Then the meltdown will really get depressing.

mperek on June 16, 2009 at 2:02 PM

MMS is blocking the reworking of wells off the Cali coast. These are leases good until 2020. But Plains Exploration tried to get a permit to rework three wells on proven reserves. They were denied.

HoustonRight on June 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM

Don’t believe it.

During the two year campaign, candidate Obama used to flip-flop within 24 hr period, in some case, within the same speech he gave.

Wouldn’t be surprised if some form(s) of ‘relief’ are to be extended, cause you know, KALIFORXICANNA is too big (for the Dems) to fall.

Sir Napsalot on June 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM

I have an idea. How about only giving California 1 Senator for each 18,000,000 residents while Montana gets 1 Senator for each 250,000 residents. Oh wait….

tommylotto on June 16, 2009 at 2:00 PM

Senators provide states with equal representation, while members of the House provide proportional representation based on population. It’s all written down in this thing called the Constitution.

Vashta.Nerada on June 16, 2009 at 2:04 PM

As a Californian, I’m not embarrassed… I’m pi$$ed.

salmonczar on June 16, 2009 at 1:59 PM

Ditto!

califdreamnred on June 16, 2009 at 2:04 PM

I have an other idea. How about only giving California $.78 in federal spending for every $1.00 taken out in federal taxes. Oh wait…

tommylotto on June 16, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Arnie better put on his big boy pull-ups. This melt down is going to be ugly.

Why doesn’t Hollywood hold a benefit concert to save California?? /s

portlandon on June 16, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Alternate headline: California bailout not beneficial to Obama’s political career right now

LibTired on June 16, 2009 at 2:06 PM

tommylotto on June 16, 2009 at 2:04 PM

If you collect federal taxes, but distribute it all back to the states, how do you fund combined national efforts like defense, etc?

I’m for smaller govt., just think this is a fatal flaw in your argument.

cs89 on June 16, 2009 at 2:08 PM

I lived in San Francisco from 1982 through 1987, and the city was mismanaged fiscally (like the state) even then. Money was wasted on every conceivable travesty without concern. Diane Feinstein was the mayor back then, and inherited a city with a large surplus (around $500,000,000). After her two terms (she left to join Congress) the new mayor, Art Agnos, was greeted his first day in office by the city comptroller with the news that the city was broke. She’d SPENT IT ALL. This is in their blood. And in citizens’ pockets too. Always has been, always will be, until the piper has to be paid.

bradley11 on June 16, 2009 at 2:08 PM

Why doesn’t Hollywood hold a benefit concert to save California?? /s

portlandon on June 16, 2009 at 2:05 PM

Live 8
8′n cake!

Upstater85 on June 16, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Obama’s holding out for a Dem Governor.

LevStrauss on June 16, 2009 at 2:09 PM

I forgot: the immediate result of Mayor Feinstein’s fiscal mismanagement was San Francisco’s bond rating collapsed, and they had to pay enormous interest for borrowed money.

bradley11 on June 16, 2009 at 2:09 PM

As a San Diegan (I cannot bring myself to say Californian), I pray that this state gets ZERO help from anywhere. After all the hysteria and palpitations, nobody will die. Life will go on.

I sooooo wish the voters would finally wake up to the fact that this pain is caused by the decades-long stranglehold the Dems and unions have on every aspect of CA life. Not real optimistic though.

Patrick S on June 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM

I have an other idea. How about only giving California $.78 in federal spending for every $1.00 taken out in federal taxes. Oh wait…

tommylotto on June 16, 2009 at 2:04 PM

That’s what happens when you close more military bases than any other state.

Vashta.Nerada on June 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM

I have an other idea. Maybe the federal government could shirk its responsibilities to protect the border and enforce immigration laws flooding California with millions of uneducated third-world refugees forcing California to spend over $10 billion a year trying to educate them, incarcerate them, and providing them with emergency medical care. Oh wait…

tommylotto on June 16, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Tommy, keep them coming, I get what you are trying to point out. The Lunacy of the reality out there.

karenhasfreedom on June 16, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Have we told you about our other fence!

HoustonRight on June 16, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Just please please don`t put it up on our side yet, or I might have to buy a shovel and backpack. That would certainly curtail my contingency plan. LMAO.

LSUMama on June 16, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Have we told you about our other fence!

HoustonRight on June 16, 2009 at 1:51 PM

Just please please don`t put it up on our side yet, or I might have to buy a shovel and backpack. That would certainly curtail my contingency plan. LMAO.

LSUMama on June 16, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Haha. Golden!

I’d have to tunnel through half the country… :(

Upstater85 on June 16, 2009 at 2:18 PM

LSUMama on June 16, 2009 at 2:16 PM

Never, My sister lives in Lafayette. We’ll just put a check point on I-10.

HoustonRight on June 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM

Can’t California just auction off San Francisco on ebay?

49ers blow anyways.

BPD on June 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM

Stop all benefits for illegal aliens, and much of the problem goes away.

Right_of_Attila on June 16, 2009 at 1:40 PM

There’s a lot of truth in this. The purpose of Proposition 187, passed in 1994 with 59% of the vote, was precisely to do this.

Federal court ruled Prop 187 unconstitutional in 1999. Let’s be clear: the California voters voted by a supermajority to cease awarding health and welfare benefits to illegals, and federal court overruled them.

But that’s not the whole problem. Reading this comment that was sent to my blog last week is well worth your time. The folks described in this astounding summary are not illegals.

J.E. Dyer on June 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM

49ers blow anyways.

BPD on June 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM

+20

Upstater85 on June 16, 2009 at 2:21 PM

It is interesting that the Feds will give money to banks, and car companies, but not the States who they have looted over the years.

The whole tax scheme of the US is upside down IMO. States are the ones who take care of Citizens directly (except for Defense and Borders) and yet the FEDS take and control much more total tax revenue than the states do.

Its one of the many things which needs to be fixed.

Romeo13 on June 16, 2009 at 2:21 PM

Poor Hollywood.
Firebird on June 16, 2009 at 1:46 PM

My guess is that all of them are sprinting to low- or no-income-tax states: Nevada, Texas, Florida and the like.
BuckeyeSam on June 16, 2009 at 1:49 PM

States? Dude, they’ve outsourced to Canada. Vancouver is the new Hollywood. I heard it reported somewhere recently (Michael Medved?) that only 3 of Hollywood’s movies were actually made in Hollywood last year.

NTropy on June 16, 2009 at 2:21 PM

It’s all written down in this thing called the Constitution.

Vashta.Nerada on June 16, 2009 at 2:04 PM

There is nothing equal about me having to share my representation in the Senate with 17,999,999 other residents, while every Montanan get to know their Senator on a first name basis. Maybe CA should be chopped up into 4 states — South (OC and San Diego), South Central (LA), Central (Fresno, Bakersfield, etc.), North (SF, Sacramento) — I think that would create two red states and two blue states. Then at least there would be some semblance of representation of Californians in the Senate.

tommylotto on June 16, 2009 at 2:22 PM

The LA Times has a story this morning on how the state has spent $3.2 million on legislators cars in the last 3 years.

Here’s a teaser:

Reporting from Sacramento — When not in a capital gripped by budget crises, state Sen. Ron Calderon can be found touring his San Gabriel Valley district in a Cadillac STS V8 Luxury Sports Sedan that the state bought for $54,830.

The Democrat from Montebello spent an average $83 per week on gasoline last year, charged to California taxpayers on a state-issued card.

The full, heartwarming story here:

http://tinyurl.com/kl7fzy

califcon on June 16, 2009 at 2:23 PM

I have an other idea. Maybe the federal government could shirk its responsibilities to protect the border and enforce immigration laws flooding California with millions of uneducated third-world refugees forcing California to spend over $10 billion a year trying to educate them, incarcerate them, and providing them with emergency medical care. Oh wait…

tommylotto on June 16, 2009 at 2:11 PM

Now you’re onto something, though I challenge your supposition that California is being forced to do this against their will:

“Nineteen ninety-four was the same year that California voters rebelled and overwhelmingly passed Proposition 187, which sought to limit liability for mass illegal immigration. Since then, state and local governments have blatantly ignored the wishes of the voters and continued to shell out publicly financed benefits on illegal aliens,” said Stein. “Predictably, the costs of illegal immigration have grown geometrically, while the state has spiraled into a fiscal crisis that has brought it near bankruptcy.

Vashta.Nerada on June 16, 2009 at 2:23 PM

Stop all benefits for illegal aliens, and much of the problem goes away.

Right_of_Attila on June 16, 2009 at 1:40 PM

I agree. That’s a huge part of their problem. Also, they need to rework their pension plans, for government workers. The perks are nice, and anyone would grab for one, but they’re unsustainable. Tax payers shouldn’t have to pay so much, to make the retired janitor, or road crew worker, live high on the hog til death. That’s rediculous. Modest living is not a sin.

capejasmine on June 16, 2009 at 2:24 PM

Well this sounds like the perfect opportunity for the Governator to regrow his balls take on the California legislature and keep kicking them in the nuts until they capitulate and start slashing the budget of all the crap that isn’t absolutely necessary.

The onus is now on Schwarzenegger the HTFU, stop looking for an easy way out and start doing the heavy lifting required to pull California out of the deep financial hole it finds itself in.

Dreadnought223 on June 16, 2009 at 2:25 PM

Maybe CA should be chopped up into 4 states — South (OC and San Diego), South Central (LA), Central (Fresno, Bakersfield, etc.), North (SF, Sacramento) — I think that would create two red states and two blue states. Then at least there would be some semblance of representation of Californians in the Senate.

tommylotto on June 16, 2009 at 2:22 PM

That’s an option, but allocating senators based on population is not. It would ruin the balance set out in the constitution.

Vashta.Nerada on June 16, 2009 at 2:25 PM

California citizens should be embarrassed

Why should I be embarrassed? They aren’t the folks for whom I voted. Maybe it should read like this:

California citizens who continue to vote for these morons should be embarrassed

NTropy on June 16, 2009 at 2:25 PM

I’m in Los Angeles. All of my friends are liberals who keep returning the same liberal politicians to positions from the town councils to the school boards to Sacramento and to D.C. I think the tide is beginning to turn. They are suddenly very quiet about praising The Won. They all voted against the tax increases recently on the state ballot. It’s hitting their pocketbooks, and they don’t like it. Bring on the meltdown, and bring on the tea parties.

surfhut on June 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM

There is nothing equal about me having to share my representation in the Senate with 17,999,999 other residents, while every Montanan get to know their Senator on a first name basis.

tommylotto on June 16, 2009 at 2:22 PM

Dude… Senate was not created to represent the people…. it is to represent the state government. House is there to represent state citizens.

BPD on June 16, 2009 at 2:27 PM

BHO is still bitter about Ahnold mocking his “skinny arms” in Ohio during the campaign.

jgapinoy on June 16, 2009 at 2:27 PM

For all of you espousing education cuts consider this: the only thing to be cut will be teachers. Programs, especially those birthed by Sacramento talking heads, will NEVER be cut. You will simply have less teachers available to implement them while still trying to actually teach kids what they need to know.

NTropy on June 16, 2009 at 2:28 PM

Why doesn’t Hollywood hold a benefit concert to save California?? /s

portlandon on June 16, 2009 at 2:05 PM
What a novice idea, but I think they never got the memo that charity begins at home. come to think of it I`m not sure they read any memos dealing with reality.

LSUMama on June 16, 2009 at 2:28 PM

It’s at least somewhat heartening to see the White House express a limit to federal bailouts. Too bad they didn’t stop before getting to automakers.

Obama hasn’t shown any fiscal prudence yet, so why start now? He spends government money like a housewife of Orange Couty, but bailing out CA is a designer purse too far. It makes me wonder if the implosion of CA isn’t desired, and if it is what could be gained?

DFCtomm on June 16, 2009 at 2:29 PM

haha! Oh sweet justice like this makes me happy inside. Cali may perhaps once and for all be knocked from it’s sanctimonious high horse and have to start acting like a real state now.

jollycynic on June 16, 2009 at 2:31 PM

This Californio is embarrassed . . . not.

Gonna hire me a couple of “questionable” citizens and start a business demolishing vacant houses.

Think underground economy.

Never let a good crisis go to waste.

dingbat on June 16, 2009 at 2:31 PM

Dude… Senate was not created to represent the people…. it is to represent the state government. House is there to represent state citizens.

BPD on June 16, 2009 at 2:27 PM

That was before the 17th amendment. It allows each state to be represented equally in that organization, but with the passage of that amendment you can’t really say they represent the state government and not the people.

DFCtomm on June 16, 2009 at 2:34 PM

Drill for oil. Leave the tax off the oil production. But no, they do not want an answer. Tax Hollywood. They don’t work for their money.

seven on June 16, 2009 at 2:34 PM

CA Dems are, as always, geared to no cuts.

This was a hail mary request.

They will get gov’t loans, once they buckle down and cut expenses.

AnninCA on June 16, 2009 at 2:34 PM

The powerful in CA will even throw Democrats out of the process if the DARE to suggest budget cuts. The Central Valley is undergoing an upheaval right now.

Democrat Juan Arambula was a representative from the conservative part of the state on the budget committee and subcommittee. He said “hey, let’s cut spending” and was promptly removed from both committees. Now, Central CA doesn’t have any representation WRT the budget in Sacramento.

Fresno recently grew to #5 population-wise and now has political clout in Sacramento, the first time a conservative city has been in that position for sometime. Obama and Pelosi responded by cutting off the water to Fresno farmers to try and purge the city of people. Yesterday farmers blocked I5 trying to get some attention.

Attempting to redistribute populations by forcing dust bowls are tactics Lenin used…

NTWR on June 16, 2009 at 2:36 PM

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