ABC to broadcast town hall on health care — from the White House
posted at 2:05 pm on June 16, 2009 by Allahpundit
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The most important domestic policy debate in a generation, with nothing less than the nature of the relationship between American citizens and their government at stake, and not only isn’t the GOP invited but the media’s setting up camp literally inside Obama’s house. Imagine a Republican Congress introducing a bill to repeal Social Security and Fox News running a special on it live from RNC headquarters. I’m honestly surprised, although it makes a certain sort of ruthless sense: If, as many righties have speculated, The One’s trying to ram through as many Great Society programs as he can before the political pendulum swings back to the center, the media might as well drop all pretense of objectivity and go for broke too. What’s more important, after all, impartial coverage or “free” health care?
On the night of June 24, the media and government become one, when ABC turns its programming over to President Obama and White House officials to push government run health care — a move that has ignited an ethical firestorm!
Highlights on the agenda:
ABCNEWS anchor Charlie Gibson will deliver WORLD NEWS from the Blue Room of the White House.
The network plans a primetime special — ‘Prescription for America’ — originating from the East Room, exclude opposing voices on the debate.
The RNC fears it’ll be a “glorified infomercial” but ABC assures us the infomercial will be fully under its control, with no input from Team Barry — except, of course, for the use of the White House to broadcast the special and that evening’s airing of ABC World News. Oh, and the total lack of any official Republican counterpoint, which Obama surely could have insisted on on if he was as serious about making this a “bipartisan” issue as he claims. To see how open and honest the debate on this subject really is, read Geraghty’s analysis of the left’s latest Two Minutes Hate, in which the AMA suddenly finds itself targeted by Media Matters, Kossacks, and assorted other Obama water-carriers for daring to oppose a public plan. Like I say, they’re going for broke.
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If Iranians had the right to bear arms, could the Royal Guards be allowed to randomly shoot into crowds. American has a long history of peaceful power transfers in part because we have the Second Amendment. When citizens don’t have the right to bear arms, it requires violence to make any kind of political change.
RedSoxNation on June 16, 2009 at 2:06 PM
DistrictTown of Columbia…Upstater85 on June 16, 2009 at 2:07 PM
How are we going to hear Charlie when he’s under the desk?
LevStrauss on June 16, 2009 at 2:08 PM
I used to think that ABC was fairly ‘balanced’ compared to NBC and CBS. Well I was wrong and you know what, you lost me as a viewer.
Lance Murdock on June 16, 2009 at 2:08 PM
One of the most outlandish things I have seen…I can’t imagine why, except out of pure desperation and need for ratings.
They (ABC) must really be hurting…I would never have believed this 5 years ago…
right2bright on June 16, 2009 at 2:08 PM
I’m feeling lucky here and I don’t think Obama has the steam to pass this trillion dollar mess. I now know why Obama supports abortion – this plan IS one.
I think homeboy’s reactor is about to scram.
HondaV65 on June 16, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Let’s see.. official state media, carte blanc for passing programs, denial of information from the source, unaccountable “czars” running programs from the government.
Yep. Welcome to 1924 Russia.
Nethicus on June 16, 2009 at 2:09 PM
This is a speaking event. Not a listening exercise. More sloganeering and blather.
seven on June 16, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Sounds like a great quote for a bumpersticker.
Nethicus on June 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM
Wow.
ABC was far and away the LEAST biased for Obama. Tapper asked tough questions of both sides, and Charlie Gibson (even though he was tough in the palin interview, but she didn’t do great either) would at least always ask a devil’s advocate of Obama in the ‘analysis’ part like “but Obama has no money to do this” (though George steph or some other lib would say ‘oh it will work charlie’ and charlie would say ‘We’ll see…’)
I’m torn because now it’s over the edge. Their medical correspondent Tim Johnson is a HUGE obamacare nut, so I’m sure he’s pushing it.
Craziest thing, last night, george stephanopolus was filling in for charlie, and led with “protests in Iran and President Obama has clearly come out with a vigorous moral support of the protestors” or some shtick like that… and Obama had said NOTHING. It’s like we’re living in some dream world…
You don’t have to love ABC, but they’re the most ‘neutral’ of the MSM out there (or can you imagine say, NBC running “The Path to 9/11″ during election season 2006). abc USED to be abc is far and away the LEAST biased and most “neutral” that the MSM is (which isnt saying much when your competition is bowing to obama on NBC or forging bush memos on CBS)
Here’s the abc blog entry about it, and submit your own comment: Obama bots are out in full force attacking “faux news”
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/06/abc-news-responds-to-rnc-letter.html
battleoflepanto1571 on June 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM
Not gonna watch.
I never thought I’d see the day that ABC would try to outdo MS-BO-NBC. Brett Baier’s rating will skyrocket.
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 16, 2009 at 2:11 PM
IT’S NOT HIS HOUSE.
/AP’s all-caps snark
inviolet on June 16, 2009 at 2:11 PM
just wait until the pendelum swings back, Obama sounds reasonable suddenly and easily wins re-election. They really go for broke in Term #2
jp on June 16, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Said it in the headlines and I’ll say it here.
This is obvious campaigning and political speech and, thusly, falls into the realm of campaign finance control laws.
ABC is NOT doing this out of the goodness of their hearts, they’re getting kickbacks for this exclusivity.
This needs to be investigated.
Skywise on June 16, 2009 at 2:11 PM
what i mean is, i guess ABC is no better than the rest now….
battleoflepanto1571 on June 16, 2009 at 2:11 PM
I sold my Disney stock (DIS) {ABC parent} today based on that news this morning.
Something wrong in America at the moment.
FireBlogger on June 16, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Never gamble on stupid.
Skywise on June 16, 2009 at 2:12 PM
this has yet to be released to DVD, all the more reason as to why its a must see.
jp on June 16, 2009 at 2:13 PM
I posted this in the headlines but I’m wondering as individual ABC affiliates hold FCC licenses, wouldn’t this be a violation if they broadcast this? Can’t we file an FCC complaint once it is broadcast or block it somehow?
I know that boycotting advertisers is a good way to go but I would like to see a couple of million FCC complaints on file when the stations have to renew their license.
Mr_Magoo on June 16, 2009 at 2:13 PM
If the RNC had any sense, it will boycott ABC and make this a big scandal.
promachus on June 16, 2009 at 2:13 PM
Hey, this is just like when the big three networks sat down with Bush in the White House and helped him sell his war on terror to the public.
Well, maybe not.
Will Charlie be wearing a drool bib and knee pads?
fogw on June 16, 2009 at 2:13 PM
What’s the difference between Obama and Mickey Mouse? One’s a cartoon character that has all his words fed to him and owns ABC. The other was created by Walt Disney.
LibTired on June 16, 2009 at 2:13 PM
this has a very foul stench to it.
SHARPTOOTH on June 16, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Time to boycott ALL of ABC… Including ESPN, the core of its current profitability. Perhaps a targeted strike on its NFL related properties and the sponsors of those programs…
phreshone on June 16, 2009 at 2:14 PM
It’s not “Obama’s house.”
The GOP never advocated “repealing Social Security.”
It’s not only “the right” that has speculated Obama is trying to cram through as many leftist policies as he can. The “left” has acknowledged that is what he is doing, and supported it.
Allahpundit is so biased he stinks. I’m sick of it.
BigD on June 16, 2009 at 2:14 PM
who owns ABC? I mean NBC has GE pulling the strings, does a pro-Socialist healthcare company own ABC?
jp on June 16, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Welcome to the Socialization of Amerika, Komrades.
If your argument is weaker than the opposition’s, get a louder sound system. Alinsky would be so proud.
kingsjester on June 16, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Congratulations to ABCNews…
They have become BILLY MAYS of Professional Journalism!
They have allowed us to coin a new phrase–BILLY MAYS JOURNALISM
General Maximus on June 16, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Gibson getting it for his ambush of Palin. Couric’s up next. No telling what exclusive she’ll get, but it will probably involve a room in the WH yet to be broadcast from…
Mr_Magoo on June 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM
No, but a blue dress would be fitting…
phreshone on June 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Fascinating. People that were screaming hysterically that Bush might have been listening to their phone calls are now more than willing to give the government full access to their medical records. And they just trust blindly that the info will never be abused or treated carelessly.
Phone privacy good.
Medical privacy not necessary.
redshirt on June 16, 2009 at 2:15 PM
I’m not sure why people use the term ‘mainstream media’ anymore. Viewership numbers show that the alphabet networks are pulling in 20 million viewers combined for their ‘news’ shows at best. That is less than ten percent of the adult population.
Vashta.Nerada on June 16, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Already
Been
Corrupt
is tired of paying for it’s employees’ health care. They want (future) taxpayers to pick up the tab.
jgapinoy on June 16, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Bend over America… you get the only health choice Obammer’s gonna give you… do you prefer KY or Vaseline?
CynicalOptimist on June 16, 2009 at 2:17 PM
none of the Sunday shows allow our big Intellectual minds on their shows each sunday, instead its always some token RINO. Where is Mark Steyn, Victor Davis Hanson, Jonah Goldberg, etc?
They should’ve been boycotting all these shows for some time now, the MSM has had as its agenda for years now to not give a new William F. Buckley any platform of theirs and not allow a new Reagan type charismatic conservative to rise in power(see Sarah Palin).
They beleive in pre-emptive warfare when it comes to domestic politics.
jp on June 16, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Have you ever watched a Disney movie? They are all pro-socialist.
lorien1973 on June 16, 2009 at 2:17 PM
The Ministry of Truth will provide us will all of the information.
V15J on June 16, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Indeed, we are living in a novel that on Orwell could pen.
WordsMatter on June 16, 2009 at 2:18 PM
The list of Disney corporations that I found:
Walt Disney Studio Entertainment
Walt Disney Motion Pictures Group
Walt Disney Pictures
Walt Disney Animation Studios
Pixar Animation Studios
Disneynature
Touchstone Pictures
Hollywood Pictures
Miramax Films
Disney Music Group
Walt Disney Theatrical
Disney-ABC Television Group
ABC
ABC News
ABC Family
Disney Channel
Disney Family Movies[4]
Playhouse Disney
Disney’s One Saturday Morning
ABC Kids
Jetix (has now been changed to Disney XD)
Jetix Play (has now been changed to Disney XD)
Disney XD
Radio Disney
ESPN Inc
ESPN
ESPN2
ESPNEWS
ESPN Classic
ESPNU
ESPN Deportes
ESPN PPV
ESPN Plus
ESPN on ABC
ESPN 360
ESPN Mobile
ESPN Radio
Disney Interactive Media Group
disney.com
ABC.com
espn.com
clubpenguin.com
Walt Disney Consumer Products
Disney Consumer Products
Disney Publishing Worldwide
Baby Einstein
Disney Store
Jim Henson’s Muppets
Disney Interactive Studios
World of Disney Stores
Walt Disney Parks and Resorts
The company’s Walt Disney Parks and Resorts division owns and operates two resorts in the United States and another three internationally through various joint ventures and licensing agreements. These are:
Disneyland Resort
Walt Disney World Resort
Tokyo Disney Resort, licensed to The Oriental Land Company
Disneyland Resort Paris, through joint venture Euro Disney S.C.A.
Hong Kong Disneyland Resort, through joint venture Hong Kong International Theme Parks
Disney Cruise Line
Rebar on June 16, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Don’t you think that Matthews, Olbermann and Imelt are just spitting nails after the way they’ve carried O’s water and now their snubbed?
John_R on June 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM
I said awhile back some GOP congressman in a safe district should propose this amendment for “Free KY JellY for all Taxpayers” to one of these spending bills.
jp on June 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM
let’s see if Charlie will bow before him as well…..
cmsinaz on June 16, 2009 at 2:19 PM
true enough, I forgot Disney owned them
jp on June 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM
ABC does have a right to air whatever it wants and in whatever format it wants. The free market decides whether it rises or fails with its product. Let them compete with MSNBC and carve up its tiny niche market.
However, if I were a Disney stockholder I’d be really p!ssed that they are deliberately tarnishing their brand by their overt move to advocacy journalism.
obladioblada on June 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM
So … can we now remove the “Fairness” Doctrine?
No more government censorship of the internet, AM Rado, and Political ads as well now?
Just let Fee Speech rip?
I’m cool with that, if applied across the board.
Kristopher on June 16, 2009 at 2:21 PM
oh,
“The Ends Justifies the Means”
jp on June 16, 2009 at 2:21 PM
For about the next 3.5 years at least.
44Magnum on June 16, 2009 at 2:21 PM
One thing – this development means that Robert Gibbs really needs to watch his back. Why have a press secretary when the press already works for the administration?
Mr. D on June 16, 2009 at 2:21 PM
The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.
- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin.
OhEssYouCowboys on June 16, 2009 at 2:23 PM
I hope someone asks:
Will the health care extend to demonstrators being brutalized in Iran?
Just to return Barry to reality for a moment.
profitsbeard on June 16, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Standard tactic at the local level, too. Able dissenters are simply not invited, so public never hears from them. Since most panels on health care are funded one way or another by the left, leftie propositions are the only ones that make the news.
fourier on June 16, 2009 at 2:24 PM
KUDOS to Drudge.
From the ABC response, they might now lose their White House reservation, because to Rahm-Baby, they’ve become toxic – in that now they must report both sides because they are under a microscope.
Marcus on June 16, 2009 at 2:24 PM
If Andrew Jackson were here, he would take A BLOWTORCH TO THIS PLACE!!!
Well, I guess this is what we get when Republicans act like D-bags and let a wienee become the republican nominee because he teamed up with the religious bigot to keep out the only intelligent conservative who was running.
Somebody once said, you reap what you sow. I cant remember who..it was either Jesus or Sarah Palin…I always get those two mixed up.
“We cannot spare this woman…she fights. The liberals FEAR her…you can smell the fear.”
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The Final Cut on June 16, 2009 at 2:24 PM
If FoxNews was smart, they will run the COUNTER information program at the same time with an expert Health Care panel and present BOTH sides to this issue. Then run commercials on the ABC stations ahead of time and tell viewers to watch foxnews instead for a fair and balanced presentation on this issue.
To be fair and balanced, the Americans have to know they will be taxed on their health care benefits if they get them now from their employment. They have to know they will have to wait 2 years for referrals to specialists, as a minimum (look north to Canada and see what their wait is). They have to know that the US Government will ration care and let people DIE of things that can be cured because it is cheaper to let them DIE. They have to know that a government bureaucrat will be in charge of whether they can live or die. They have to know that they will not get breast cancer drugs (See UK program). They have to know that eventually all choices will be run out of the industry if the government is allowed to form a plan. The government’s plan will undercut private insurance (planned this way to turn the whole thing into a single payer system).
Need I say more? We will NOT get any of this from the slobbering ABC presentation.
karenhasfreedom on June 16, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Not yet, they will just have to take it a step further at some point. MSM brinkmanship.
NBC carried out the Limbaugh attacks for Obama, then there was the whole Brian Williams bow.
ABC has taken it a step further to curry favor with Dear Leader.
I assume it is CBS’ turn next, unless NBC decides to breach etiquitte (much like Flick’s jump form double-dog dare to triple-dog dare).
Perhaps MTV could film a reality show from inside the White House, too.
reaganaut on June 16, 2009 at 2:25 PM
now that we have a right-wing PC police, maybe you’ll push for a fairness doctrine, too?
sesquipedalian on June 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM
I’m sure it will be a perfectly fair and balanced presentation.
Except for, you know, the part about presenting a counter-argument…
cruadin on June 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM
I’m guessing to take dictation.
LibTired on June 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM
still waiting on Tapper to comment or tweet on it. Deafining silence.
youngO on June 16, 2009 at 2:26 PM
Bwahahahahahaaaaa!!!!
The arrogance of these Marxist traitors knows no bounds.
csdeven on June 16, 2009 at 2:27 PM
The “Town Hall” at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, D.C.?
Oh, please.
mojo on June 16, 2009 at 2:27 PM
shouldn’t we be glad they are being honest about things now, instead of pretending to be non-partisian?
jp on June 16, 2009 at 2:27 PM
The Statists are seizing and controlling more and more industries.
They are taking private property in order to buy the loyalty of the Dumb masses.
And now they have major networks openly acting as propaganda outlets for them.
How are these actions THAT much different from what other Statists in the past have done?
Chainsaw56 on June 16, 2009 at 2:30 PM
Thank Drudge that they WILL present a counter-argument, in fact be more anti- than pro- , so after they can give an “I told you so wingnuts”. In fact, as I said, I wouldn’t be surprised if ABC was un-invited and MSNBC invited like an old lover back to bed.
Marcus on June 16, 2009 at 2:30 PM
The “Resolute” desk has a nice door on the front. Charlie can broadcast for a few minutes and then quickly open the hatch and stick his head in.
Besides – who’s gonna watch?
What are ABC’s ratings for the nightly news slot? Hopefully they’ll be stupid enough to wait for primetime where they’ll go up against O’Reilly or Hannity.
BacaDog on June 16, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Translation: RRRRRRRRRRON PAUL!!!!!!
TheUnrepentantGeek on June 16, 2009 at 2:31 PM
And broke they will be too. In every way possible.
When Obama has finally destroyed the Demoncrats and the media’s every last glimmer of respect, then and only then may he leave office.
Until then, let him continue to destroy them.
Mcguyver on June 16, 2009 at 2:32 PM
Off Topic Troll is Off Topic!
TheUnrepentantGeek on June 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM
Why don’t they just prop up a bunch of straw men in overalls around the “town hall?” That would be some funny s**t.
anticucho on June 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM
In a normal world, maybe. What is more troublesome to me, is the fact that they don’t even have to try to appear non-partisan. Not one bit.
As long as more people are paying attention to reality shows and puppies and celebrities and our new fashion queen, Aunt Bunny, we’re screwed.
They don’t even need a slick liar like Billy Jeff anymore.
reaganaut on June 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM
.
Nope. MITT!!!
BacaDog on June 16, 2009 at 2:33 PM
As I recall, the Clintons pressured Disney/ABC to keep it suppressed.
Seems to me that Disney has long suppressed another production of theirs-”Song of the South”?.
Del Dolemonte on June 16, 2009 at 2:34 PM
It’s just going to be a bunch of straw man arguments to exaggerate the opposing viewpoint.
anticucho on June 16, 2009 at 2:34 PM
In exchange for use of the White House, ABC, free of charge, will endorse, and rally cry for this debacle.
This is morally ,and ethically wrong, and people should realize it. For both ABC, and Government to get into bed together like this, should reek to the minds of millions. This is corrupt, and foul.
Just ask yourselves….why are the msm’s so kissy faced with Obama, and why would they sacrifice millions to run this kind of crap? There’s something in it, for ABC.
As for the AMA. Let’s all make contact with them, and let them know we don’t support this crap, and will stand firm with them!!! They need to hear that as much, as they don’t need to hear from the kool aid drinkers, attacking them.
capejasmine on June 16, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Translation: “I can’t credibly respond to this blatant example of the biased media going in the tank for my hero, so I will attempt to change the subject”.
Del Dolemonte on June 16, 2009 at 2:35 PM
They are Team Barry
bluelightbrigade on June 16, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Never gamble on stupid.
Skywise on June 16, 2009 at 2:12 PM
the majority of people do it everyday. Trust me I witness it on a regular basis and don`t believe for a minute they will listen to reason . It truly feels like the Land of Oz these days.
LSUMama on June 16, 2009 at 2:35 PM
Oh ya!!!!11!!!
Well now that John Smoltz is coming off the disabled list, do the Bruins need to pick up a new defenseman?
reaganaut on June 16, 2009 at 2:36 PM
Nobody is ramming through “free” health care.
That’s absurd.
AnninCA on June 16, 2009 at 2:36 PM
you’re kinda weird.
BrideOfRove on June 16, 2009 at 2:37 PM
That slurping sound is the sound of “Resolution”
bluelightbrigade on June 16, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Hi Ho, Hi Ho, its off to the White House ABC goes, to be Obama’s little media stooge, Hi Ho, Hi Ho, Hi Ho, Hi Ho.
Dreadnought223 on June 16, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Be happy. Go somewhere else.
(FWIW – your reading of his commentary is completely twisted. You might want to do a couple of shots of brown liquor and start over.)
Jaibones on June 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Not in a million years.
On the bright side of all of this, look at all of the precedents the MSM and the administration are setting.
I can’t wait for the GOP to get back Congress and the White House so we can see FOX townhalls and the GOP administration taking control of ACORN and the UAW. Hell, let’s toss Google in there too for good measure.
BacaDog on June 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM
SHAM WOW indeed. This is the biggest sham anyone’s ever tried to pull on the American public, and using the media as an accomplice is downright unAmerican. They’re not going to get away with this, though…too many people are against it. IF they force it on us our streets will look just like Tehran.
scalleywag on June 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM
No. They’re ramming thru single-payer healthcare.
/Nuance.
bluelightbrigade on June 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM
Except we took care of the problem ourselves, much like everything else conservatives do. Your kind, however, gets an itch in your vagina and runs clinging to your mama government’s leg whining for them do something about it.
Big difference.
ClassicCon on June 16, 2009 at 2:38 PM
I read today that I’m in the majority. *whew*
I was sure I wasn’t from this blog.
The people WANT healthcare reform.
Those are the poll.
I think a public plan, combined with mandatory involvement, is smart. It’ the right move.
And I’m definitely for it.
It will be a bit like state auto insurance. You’ll celebrate when you’re off of it.
But that’s not all that bad, either.
AnninCA on June 16, 2009 at 2:39 PM
It’s funny how a one-hour special about health care could be considered a ratings stunt.
That said, Drudge’s pre-emtive strike will probably sure a bit more balance in the special.
YYZ on June 16, 2009 at 2:39 PM
you’re kinda weird.
BrideOfRove on June 16, 2009 at 2:37 PM
So was Captain Ahab.
Just another post is the history of Roger Waters/The Wall/The Final Cut and whatever he comes back in the next Open Registration as.
kingsjester on June 16, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Time to boycott ALL of ABC… Including ESPN, the core of its current profitability. Perhaps a targeted strike on its NFL related properties and the sponsors of those programs…
phreshone on June 16, 2009 at 2:14 PM
I am, but I can`t ESPN until World Series is over, Sorry but LSU has my loyalty.
LSUMama on June 16, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Clinton had it censored, to make him not look as bad. Since then, he’s been able to keep ABC from releasing it to DVD and making money off it
It was a great series btw
jp on June 16, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Ann, Ann.
The majority of people are mindless sheep.
Is this really a comfort to you?
bluelightbrigade on June 16, 2009 at 2:40 PM
No, it’s not single-payer in the least.
It’s like CA’s auto plan, which offers a state plan for those who can’t get private insurance.
The private plans set themselves up. They screwed people.
I have NO sympathy.
AnninCA on June 16, 2009 at 2:41 PM
This is really unbelievable. I’m not quite sure what else to say about it.
I’ve written my Senators and Representative before and told them it’s a sad state of affairs when many people consider the biggest threat to the United States to be the government itself.
Of course I never get a reply.
darwin on June 16, 2009 at 2:41 PM
actualy, there is a documentary about the Path to 9/11 fiasco that came out last year.
one of those things conservatives get outraged about when it happens, then it goes away and we forget all about it
jp on June 16, 2009 at 2:41 PM
If not were for Lost i’d never watch ABC again.
Falz on June 16, 2009 at 2:41 PM
This former viewer got fed up with the liberal bias and quit watching ABC and the other networks back in 1987.
Is it time to turn off the ABC radio news as well?
Lost my shape on June 16, 2009 at 2:41 PM
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