Video: Flashback to Dems screeching about Medicare cuts

posted at 10:55 am on June 15, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

When George Bush tried to tackle escalating Medicare and Medicaid costs and a looming entitlement catastrophe with modest funding cuts in both terms in office, Democrats screeched about seniors losing health care and pronounced Bush’s efforts dead on arrival on Capitol Hill. Now, with Barack Obama in the White House, Democrats have suddenly gone mute as the administration proposes to cut hundreds of billions from both programs. Verum Serum puts together the Democratic Primal Scream Greatest Hits collection, complete with a finale from The Crickets … or some crickets, anyway:

The guys at VS put the cuts at $622 billion, while Bloomberg puts it at $400 billion, plus $600 billion in tax hikes:

Health-care overhaul legislation being drafted by House Democrats will include $600 billion in tax increases and $400 billion in cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel said.

Democrats will work on the bill’s details next week as they struggle through “what kind of heartburn” it will cause to agree on how to pay for revamping the health-care system, Rangel, a New York Democrat, said today. The measure’s cost is reaching well beyond the $634 billion President Barack Obama proposed in his budget request to Congress as a 10-year down payment for the policy changes.

Asked whether the cost of a health-care overhaul would be more than $1 trillion over a decade, Rangel said, “the answer is yes.” Some Senate Republicans, including Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah, say the costs will likely exceed $1.5 trillion.

Either way, the Democrats have lost that sanctimonious scolding voice that they had no trouble using when Bush proposed cuts less than one-tenth what Democrats now propose.

Update: Morgen from VS tells me they got the $622 billion number from … the White House.  Hope! Change! Empathy!


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Elections have consequences.

sonofdy on June 15, 2009 at 11:01 AM

Not to be redundant,but the glaring hypocrisy is glaring.

UltimateBob on June 15, 2009 at 11:02 AM

For proper estimation of a cost of a government program, take the official estimate and double to triple it. So Orrin Hatch is probably correct on the $1.5T price tag.

WashJeff on June 15, 2009 at 11:03 AM

Since health care is a “right” according to Democrats, why isn’t that accompanied by the use of state authority to force doctors to provide care for free?

We can just get around that pesky emancipation proclamation by using some weasel words. “Slavery” will be henceforth known as “Compulsory Community Service”.

NoDonkey on June 15, 2009 at 11:04 AM

I swear that at minute 2:05, (D) Rep. Ellison said “DIMocrat”. How true and how unsurprising that the Dims are keeping quiet for Dear Leaders proposal.

Roll on 2010. I will become a citizen by then so I can help vote these twits out of office.

TT

Trooper Thornton on June 15, 2009 at 11:06 AM

Bueller? Bueller?

glennbo on June 15, 2009 at 11:07 AM

This is interesting, thought I would share.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/Conservatives-Single-Largest-Ideological-Group.aspx

milwife88 on June 15, 2009 at 11:08 AM

I wish such obvious hypocrisy would cost the Democrats. But it won’t. The ones who don’t vote for them already know how bad they are, and the ones who do vote for them don’t care. And there are more of them.

However, one benefit of this is that it shows us that the ruling Democrats actually do not care about any particular policy choice. Rather, it’s all about power — raw, naked power to govern anyway they please. Thanks again, 53%, for that wonderful government you gave us.

jwolf on June 15, 2009 at 11:08 AM

The day I am told to work for free will be the day I my license goes inactive.

clnurnberg on June 15, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Just think of them as taxpayer cuts!

Christien on June 15, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Is the purpose of the $600B cuts to redirect it later to universal single-payer healthcare?

shick on June 15, 2009 at 11:11 AM

Not to be redundant,but the glaring hypocrisy is glaring.

The GOP must compare what the Dems said in the past to current in ALL elections spots and literature. Hypocrits !!

rlongstrat on June 15, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Maybe they have brain tumors which causes predicted shifts in policy. Oh, wait…!

SouthernGent on June 15, 2009 at 11:12 AM

“These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.”

- Obi-Wan Kenobi

regal on June 15, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Not to be redundant,but the glaring hypocrisy is glaring.

UltimateBob on June 15, 2009 at 11:02 AM

You are absolutely correct. It just proves that everything is done, or not done, along party lines. It’s stupid. We cannot afford this health care plan. How is it, when it came to other things, they could only get a few hundred million in cuts, but when it comes to the elderly, they basically cut them off at the knees?

capejasmine on June 15, 2009 at 11:12 AM

Not to be redundant,but the glaring hypocrisy is glaring.
UltimateBob on June 15, 2009 at 11:02 AM

Hey, the left puts the ‘Hip’ in “Hypocrisy”

[yeah, I know that should be "Hyp”, but the other is the more common spelling]

Chainsaw56 on June 15, 2009 at 11:14 AM

Politicians are scum.

ctmom on June 15, 2009 at 11:15 AM

Tipping point cometh…

mjbrooks3 on June 15, 2009 at 11:15 AM

I don’t think my health can take another day of Obama’s great ideas. In fact, he makes me ill.

scalleywag on June 15, 2009 at 11:15 AM

I hope I dont get sick any time soon…jeeeez

marktarheel on June 15, 2009 at 11:16 AM

And we all know that years from now, when Republicans are in charge, the Democrats will be doing the same hypocritical screeching. The Media will continue to hail the “principled stand” taken for “ordinary Americans.”

JimRich on June 15, 2009 at 11:17 AM

I wonder what Kos and LGF have to say about this

tomas on June 15, 2009 at 11:17 AM

The day I am told to work for free will be the day I my license goes inactive.

clnurnberg on June 15, 2009 at 11:08 AM

The day I am told to work for free is that the day that I quit nursing and go work at Walmart. Sorry, hippie morons, but it’s the way it is.

mjk on June 15, 2009 at 11:17 AM

The day I am told to work for free will be the day I my license goes inactive.

clnurnberg on June 15, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Hence my earlier post, “slavery” was outlawed, but perhaps not “Compulsory Community Service”.

Besides, you can be like the Cuban/Russian doctors and charge bribes for your services. So it’s all good.

NoDonkey on June 15, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Too bad there wasn’t a clip of a purple Ted Kennedy screaming and slobbering. That is unmitigated proof that a Republican has come up with a good idea.

perroviejo on June 15, 2009 at 11:18 AM

I wonder what Kos and LGF have to say about this

tomas on June 15, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Ol’ Chuckles will blame it on creationists and some Neadrathal at Kos will blame it on the “zion-azis”….. just thinking outside the box, here.

mjk on June 15, 2009 at 11:18 AM

Why would they protest cuts in Medicare now when the cuts are a tiny step towards national healthcare?

Medicare cuts now so that we can all be forced into Medicare.

myrenovations on June 15, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Don’t worry. Katie Couric will settle it when she credits the Dems with fixing the problem that “Conservatives” ignored the last eight years.

perroviejo on June 15, 2009 at 11:19 AM

Which ever way the winds blow. The cuts proposed to Medicare are just to scare the doctors while at the same time the Won is offering to lower malpractice insurance costs. It’s the old carrot and stick. Next will come the arm twist. We won’t like the results whatever the tools come up with.

Kissmygrits on June 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM

The IMPORTANT thing is, none of this will have any negative effect on the healthcare and retirement benefits of anybody in government, right?

Star20 on June 15, 2009 at 11:24 AM

This is the change we voted for.

Wade on June 15, 2009 at 11:24 AM

The democrats are just selling the package… they will not cut Medicaid/Medicare… It’s just to push this through.

clubcar on June 15, 2009 at 11:25 AM

I can see the Medicare cuts from my house.

Wade on June 15, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Hey, Obumbles! Howya gonna spread the wealth once you’ve destroyed it all?

Some Americans don’t deserve this shit.

hillbillyjim on June 15, 2009 at 11:26 AM

How long before a “bailout” of big pharma- a little nationalization would save Moobama a lot of money on health care.

Monica on June 15, 2009 at 11:28 AM

America has the best Healthcare System in the World. That’s exactly why the Liberals want to “fix” it.

kingsjester on June 15, 2009 at 11:29 AM

The day I am told to work for free will be the day I my license goes inactive.
clnurnberg on June 15, 2009 at 11:08 AM

The day I am told to work for free is that the day that I quit nursing and go work at Walmart. Sorry, hippie morons, but it’s the way it is.
mjk on June 15, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Gee, don’t you want to “Give Back” and work for the ‘collective good’ and work for nothing?

Look at all the Leftists that lead by example, and do all their goods works for Absolutely No Pay – like…………………………………………………………..

Chainsaw56 on June 15, 2009 at 11:30 AM

It will be like getting surgery from the DMV.

“Take a number”.

“Oh wait, it’s our break time. Get back in line.”

“Sorry, we’re having computer problems.”

“Sorry, we’re closed. Come back in eight weeks.”

All this and sky high taxes as well. Thanks Democrats!

NoDonkey on June 15, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Much of the money is likely to come from reining in spending on federal health programs for the elderly and the poor. Obama has proposed trimming more than $600 billion from Medicare and Medicaid by 2019 — including more than $300 billion in cuts unveiled in his Saturday radio and Internet address — which could fulfill the promise to curb the growth of federal health spending.

The most vulnerable among us!! Bush you bast-? Wha? How’s that?

Oh nevermind… AARP understand the poor President’s conundrum.

mankai on June 15, 2009 at 11:33 AM

The ones who don’t vote for them already know how bad they are, and the ones who do vote for them don’t care. And there are more of them.

jwolf on June 15, 2009 at 11:08 AM

And IME many of the ones who vote for them have the same character traits of dishonesty and hypocrisy. They’re naturally voting for their disingenuous peers.

infidel4life on June 15, 2009 at 11:33 AM

First shock, then silence. It’s like an anti-Louis Renault Award, but just as sickening.

Ferris on June 15, 2009 at 11:36 AM

It will be like getting surgery from the DMV.

“Take a number”.

“Oh wait, it’s our break time. Get back in line.”

“Sorry, we’re having computer problems.”

“Sorry, we’re closed. Come back in eight weeks.”

All this and sky high taxes as well. Thanks Democrats!

NoDonkey on June 15, 2009 at 11:31 AM

Or dealing with the VA Hospitals. It’s a shame the way our veterans are treated, and I don’t want the kind of treatment they get.

SouthernGent on June 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM

the Democrats have lost that sanctimonious scolding voice that they had no trouble using when Bush proposed cuts less than one-tenth what Democrats now propose.

I’m rapidly losing the ability to be surprised by left-wing hypocrisy. The midterm elections just cannot get here soon enough.

Paul_in_NJ on June 15, 2009 at 11:38 AM

It is amazing to me that Obama thinks he can just tell the AMA that he’s going to make cuts to their pay and they are going to like it. All the AMA has to do is instruct doctors and hospitals not to accept the new government program and they’ll be out of luck (it’s Chicago politics played through the money of health care – which is more than the government has).

The AMA has mastered the ‘leverage’ politics that Obama claims to love. That has allowed the insurance companies to also be very good at this kind of brinksmanship negotiation.

The health care industry creates jobs. If Obama makes cuts, it will cost jobs.

Instead of cutting what they pay doctors and hospitals for providing services, maybe they should start by cutting the lucrative benefits of the federal health care plan all the senators and congressmen have. Their health care benefits are more expensive than any in the country except the UAW.

Why isn’t he asking the UAW to cut the benefits for their employees and retirees? Why isn’t he asking Congress to cut their benefits? Why is he demanding doctors and hospitals take less to provide care?

Two weeks ago we were lamenting how much the pilot of the airplane crash was making (less than 20k/year), and now he’s expecting brain surgeons to be placed on the same pay scale.

We have geniuses running our government. . . geniuses I tell ya.

ThackerAgency on June 15, 2009 at 11:40 AM

“These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.”

- Obi-Wan Kenobi Obama-Wen Kairobi

regal on June 15, 2009 at 11:12 AM

MarkTheGreat on June 15, 2009 at 11:40 AM

Gotta love youtube I guess. Is anyone surprised that leftwing democrats are hypocrites?

tx2654 on June 15, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Hypocrisy is too kind a word.

Yakko77 on June 15, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Hypocrisy is too kind a word.

Especially if Ted Kennedy is involved.

rlongstrat on June 15, 2009 at 11:44 AM

This is interesting, thought I would share.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/Conservatives-Single-Largest-Ideological-Group.aspx

milwife88 on June 15, 2009 at 11:08 AM

Wait. I thought we were supposed to move left to achieve electoral victory?

BPD on June 15, 2009 at 11:46 AM

Weird how medical care has become a “right.”

Since the Miranda warning includes a provision for a lawyer if one can’t afford it, how about a call for free legal work for everyone?

TugboatPhil on June 15, 2009 at 11:47 AM

I see dead people.

Greg Toombs on June 15, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Class warfare. The only note they can sing. I like the reference to “low-income children”.

“Can I have ‘nother bowl of soup, sir?”

“Another bowl of soup?! Arghhhh!”

keep the change on June 15, 2009 at 11:58 AM

Using parts of that video would make a great commercial for the GOP.

::::more crickets::::

tru2tx on June 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Check this out. LOL.

lorien1973 on June 15, 2009 at 11:59 AM

Kennedy went to Cuba for brain surgery, right? Or was it Canada?

Akzed on June 15, 2009 at 12:00 PM

This should be a commercial running in every market across the U.S. I wonder if any of the republican congress people have seen it. If not, it should be made front and center.

txag92 on June 15, 2009 at 12:06 PM

And we all know that years from now, when Republicans are in charge, the Democrats will be doing the same hypocritical screeching. The Media will continue to hail the “principled stand” taken for “ordinary Americans.”

JimRich on June 15, 2009 at 11:17 AM

Yeah, right! Any fool with a smidge of common sense could see this isn’t about taking care of the oridinary guy. It’s ALL about keeping us under control, and them in power, and giving them more power to wield over us. When someone, under this plan can enforce abortions, and dictate when we die…..that’s Power, and not to the people.

capejasmine on June 15, 2009 at 12:07 PM

Since the Miranda warning includes a provision for a lawyer if one can’t afford it, how about a call for free legal work for everyone?
TugboatPhil on June 15, 2009 at 11:47 AM

That’s because it is a protection of the individual from the power of government.

And it isn’t an open ended entitlement. It’s a specific circumstance of protecting the rights of the Individual.

‘It’s not right if someone has to pay for it’ – means people don’t have a right to the property and time of others for what is really their personal gain.

Chainsaw56 on June 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM

I know y’all have seen the thread about UN corruption. Can you even imagine how corrupt a Government-run Healthcare system will be?

kingsjester on June 15, 2009 at 12:13 PM

Whenever taking prisoners becomes unnecessarily onerous, strangely enough, you get fewer prisoners and more enemy KIA. Funny how that works.

Akzed on June 15, 2009 at 12:15 PM

With Obamacare in place, Medicare (and I suppose Medicaid) will be unneeded redundancies. Also, this is a move to remove $ from the private sector and move control to the Government. According to Reuters:

Shares of Tenet Healthcare Corp were down 3.6 percent at $2.95 in morning trading on the New York Stock Exchange after an initial dip of 8 percent. Shares of Universal Health Services were down 1.97 percent at $51.35. Health Management Associates fell 5.06 percent to $4.88, and LifePoint Hospitals Inc fell 1.64 percent to $27.01.

So are we to continue blaming the greedy Wall Street b——s for the decline?

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 15, 2009 at 12:17 PM

I love how Obozo is giving his speech to the AMA and in the right hand corner is the DOW dropping 200 points. Priceless.

txag92 on June 15, 2009 at 12:22 PM

txag92 on June 15, 2009 at 12:22 PM

Rush is tearing him up on all this right now.

kingsjester on June 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Rush is tearing him up on all this right now.

kingsjester on June 15, 2009 at 12:26 PM

Wish I had a radio handy. I’ll read the transcript when it’s posted.

txag92 on June 15, 2009 at 12:27 PM

It’s very simple:

When the Republicans wanted to cut these programs they were going to cheat our grammies out of basic medical care.

When the Dems talk about making cuts they’re talking about impacting those evil, uncaring rich Republican doctors.

katiejane on June 15, 2009 at 12:33 PM

Democrats are no longer worried about hypocrisy.

GarandFan on June 15, 2009 at 12:41 PM

Hopenchange = lottapain

Kini on June 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM

when healthcare is run similar to the DMV (a.k.a. satan’s a-hole), the suicide rate will sky rocket – can you say CARBON CREDITS?

Ris4victory on June 15, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Democrats are no longer worried about hypocrisy.
GarandFan on June 15, 2009 at 12:41 PM

More than that, it undergirds their entire agenda.

The Demoncrat’s Statist agenda is built upon a foundation of Lies and Hypocrisy.

They Lose when people understand their true agenda, and they can only win when they control most of the media.

Chainsaw56 on June 15, 2009 at 12:51 PM

I see dead people.

Greg Toombs on June 15, 2009 at 11:51 AM

Oh h**l I just choked on my coffee. You just made my day. How profound LOL.

LSUMama on June 15, 2009 at 1:02 PM

These clowns actually think the biggest area of waste in our health system is in payment to doctors and hospitals. That is hilarious.

My dad just spent a week in a hospital with a broken leg. He saw his surgeon once, other than the surgery itself. On the other hand, the hospital employed a different person to:

take out the regular trash
take out the medical waste
polish the floors
change the bedding
clean the bathroom
check his blood pressure
deliver his meals
pick up after his meals

Yet with all these people running around, my dad almost died because the nurse forgot to give him his insulin.

And 99% of hospital meals now are served with disposable trays, plates, utensils, and cups, which not only adds costs, it adds hugely to the solid waste stream and eliminates jobs. Hospitals now routinely throw away surgical utensils rather than autoclaving and reusing them. Thermometers, scales, and blood pressure devices are now electronic and much more expensive than the old analog or manual versions that were perfectly fine for decades.

rockmom on June 15, 2009 at 1:20 PM

I forgot to add at the end of my last post that all of these disposable and electronic items, and all of these unnecessary staff people, have been introduced to avoid lawsuits and to cut the workload of unionized nurses. Yet hospital nursing care is getting worse all the time.

rockmom on June 15, 2009 at 1:22 PM

Where the hell is the Lone Ranger when you need him??????

Rick007 on June 15, 2009 at 1:23 PM

So we are now extremist and fear-mongerers. I’ll wear that label loud and proud. Thank you Obozo.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D98R7GHG0&show_article=1

txag92 on June 15, 2009 at 1:35 PM

They told me if I voted for McCain, Medicare/Medicaid would be slashed and my health care benefits would be taxed, and they were right.

eaglewingz08 on June 15, 2009 at 1:52 PM

Word from the elderly contingent at the gym this AM—Even the most liberal of them are finding fault with O’s health care plans. Most see it for what it will become—an expensive and despised boondoggle.

jeanie on June 15, 2009 at 2:04 PM

Kennedy went to Cuba for brain surgery, right? Or was it Canada?

Akzed on June 15, 2009 at 12:00 PM

Anyone seen Patrick Kennedy? He is on a retreat somewhere but no one is saying. Must gone to Canada for health care.

Wade on June 15, 2009 at 2:06 PM

I hate having to “defend” the Democrats on this, but doesn’t it make a difference that they likely perceive these cuts to be funding something that will provide health care in other ways to those that are affected (whereas with Bush this wasn’t the case)?

DaveS on June 15, 2009 at 2:20 PM

they likely perceive these cuts to be funding something that will provide health care in other ways to those that are affected

You’re right, I think the Americorps teens will soon be providing open heart surgery, in a cost saving measure.

“Aim high, kids! Whoops. Well, that’s why pencils have erasers. Next victim, I mean patient.”

NoDonkey on June 15, 2009 at 2:34 PM

WOW, guys check THIS out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zO3jCmfPDA&feature=related

That’s a video of Obama blasting McCain for proposing $832 billion in medicare cuts!

dalejrfanfreak on June 15, 2009 at 3:09 PM

So Obama wants to cut Medicare. That means we can send in less medicare withholding? Obama doesn’t think docs at the AMA know what bleeding to death looks like.

seven on June 15, 2009 at 3:27 PM

So Obama wants to cut Medicare. That means we can send in less medicare withholding?

Are you trying to be funny?

Last I checked, Obama was a “democrat”.

NoDonkey on June 15, 2009 at 3:47 PM

Democrats are a clear and present danger to the security of the United States.

scotash on June 15, 2009 at 4:16 PM

“This isn’t the Trojan Horse you’re looking for”
- Obammy One K-nobby

CaveatEmpty on June 15, 2009 at 4:51 PM

It is amazing to me that Obama thinks he can just tell the AMA that he’s going to make cuts to their pay and they are going to like it. All the AMA has to do is instruct doctors and hospitals not to accept the new government program and they’ll be out of luck

ThackerAgency on June 15, 2009 at 11:40 AM

There are already doctors/hospitals that will not accept Tricare.

Hogman on June 15, 2009 at 8:45 PM

Yeah so what else is new, where is our Conservative leadership able to communicate these kind of things.

Where is the voice of the Republican and Conservative party who should be able to bury them with scandal and hypocrisy after 2 years of Democratic control of the House and 6 months of control of the Executive Branch.

If we can’t find someone who can deliver the message and if we don’t start defining ourselves and not let the Left define us, we have no hope for the future.

oped01 on June 16, 2009 at 1:09 AM