Video: Iranian thugs beat protester to death in broad daylight

posted at 8:10 pm on June 14, 2009 by Allahpundit

There’s no official confirmation that he died but that’s the word on the street. Best-case scenario is that they “merely” beat him into unconsciousness. Rather than give you just the video of the beating, though, I’m embedding a kaleidoscope of 14 clips put together by Breitbart.com to show you how widespread and violent the protests already are. If you can’t spare a few minutes to watch them all, at least watch the first three plus the seventh, where you’ll find the Basij — essentially Iran’s answer to the Nazi SA — riding by on motorcycles with batons and taking swings at anyone wearing green to indicate support for Mousavi. I’ve read multiple tweets from Iranians today claiming that some of these goons have been heard speaking Arabic, not Farsi, suggesting that they’re actually Hezbollah troops shipped in from Lebanon to help with the crackdown. Whether that’s true or just a rationalization by Iranian students who don’t want to believe their own countrymen would side with the regime against the people, I don’t know.

Mousavi hasn’t been seen since the election, by the way. Is he dead? In prison? Or, as another hot rumor has it, is he meeting with Khatami and Rafsanjani to form a united “reformist” front? Khatami was president for eight years before Ahmadinejad; Rafsanjani is currently head of the Assembly of Experts, Iran’s equivalent of the College of Cardinals. If they align with Mousavi and recruit some of the country’s other leading ayatollahs to their cause, government officials will be forced to take sides and the regime will crack wide open. No wonder they’re in such a hurry to arrest opposition leaders. Meanwhile, after devoting a few hard hours of thought to it since my last post, I’m more puzzled than ever as to why Khamenei would side with Ahmadinejad by endorsing such patently fraudulent results. How does the benefit to him outweigh the cost? Even if he’s worried about Mousavi using the presidency to liberalize Iran, he’d be in a much better position to stop him down the road by leveraging his legitimacy as supreme leader. That’s gone now. And not only is it gone, he chose to throw it away by antagonizing Iran’s youth at a moment when their political consciousness is higher than it’s ever been — after an historic campaign, replete with the country’s first televised presidential debate, and in the midst of a standoff with the whole world over Iran’s nuclear program. It’s insane — especially if, as Time claims, Khamenei is “addicted to the perception of legitimacy for himself and the system.” Either he’s lost his marbles or somebody forced his hand. But who?


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Can’t that guy on the roof take a joke?

Firebird on June 14, 2009 at 9:05 PM

AUINSC on June 14, 2009 at 9:02 PM

And he will “fix” it the only way he knows how, he will throw a lot of U.S. taxpayers money at them.

Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 9:05 PM

And he will “fix” it the only way he knows how, he will throw a lot of U.S. taxpayers money at them.

Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 9:05 PM

Yes, better this that the ugly, hateful specter of neo-con ‘zionists’ shopping at a mall.

AUINSC on June 14, 2009 at 9:06 PM

Its funny how obama was taking credit for it now it seems that he does not want any part of it.

jaboba on June 14, 2009 at 9:07 PM

I am not sure that the premise of your question is entirely on-target. You are projecting Western cost-benefit analysis on a regime that clearly does not think in Western terms of political calculation.

alohapundit on June 14, 2009 at 8:57 PM

Wait, you mean the mullahs aren’t worried about how this is going to poll?

Jim Treacher on June 14, 2009 at 9:07 PM

After all there arewosides to every conflict… on the other hand….both sides need to show restraint….on the other hand…

katy on June 14, 2009 at 8:56 PM

Dear katy, given Obama’s corrupt Chicago machine experience, you must remember the third option:

On the underhanded…

Loxodonta on June 14, 2009 at 9:07 PM

And Obama wants to talk to these bastards.

thmcbb on June 14, 2009 at 9:03 PM

WTF??

TALK???

Barack HUSSEIN Obama (PBUH)(SWT)(SAW) does NOT “talk”!

First, he “Apologizes”!!

Second, he Surrenders!!

It’s a very simple pattern…

Dale in Atlanta on June 14, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Heres a thought,its from Bidens interview,from an earlier Hot/Air thread,

in regards to Iran:

“Is it for domestic consumption,or is it for Foreign
consumption”!
—————————————

If this is how Biden see’s DinnerJacket,on how he
speaks in and out of Iran,

it certainly sounds alot like how Obama approaches
his speeches as well,in and out of America!!

canopfor on June 14, 2009 at 9:08 PM

And Obama wants to talk to these bastards.

thmcbb on June 14, 2009 at 9:03 PM

He’s been smugly and arrogantly telling us, for years now, how these are rational people (Achmadinejad and crew) who can be dealt with like the lady down the street, if only we would talk to them.

The stunning idiocy of The Precedent has been laid bare with this event, no matter who voted for whom or who wins in the end. The people he was telling us to sit with are the animals we have been telling him they were. But the idiot messiah with the 83 IQ will still be arrogant when he shows up on TV again.

I wonder if The Precedent’s really too dumb to know that we know that he’s as dumb as a rock? I’m really not sure. I think he knows that he’s a moron (since it’s so obvious) but sometimes I think he’s even dumber than that.

progressoverpeace on June 14, 2009 at 9:08 PM

It’s insane —

And you are surprised… why?

MikeA on June 14, 2009 at 9:09 PM

Any chance that this is all elaborate theater for a Western audience?

In the end, the Supreme Leader relents and Khatami, his true, desired choice, is announced as the winner. Khatami takes office with the overwhelming support of the populace and none of the taint of his predecessor. The West, anxious to put all of this nastiness behind us, ignore Khatami’s own radical past, proclaim him a moderate, and ease tensions as a new day of peaceful relations dawns and the whir of the centrifuges is drowned out by the self-congratulatory backslapping of Western diplomats.

docjeff on June 14, 2009 at 9:10 PM

And Obama wants to talk to these bastards.

thmcbb on June 14, 2009 at 9:03 PM

With no preconditions.

MikeA on June 14, 2009 at 9:10 PM

The false choice between beating your opponents to death or winning an election.

the_nile on June 14, 2009 at 9:11 PM

I wonder if The Precedent’s really too dumb to know that we know that he’s as dumb as a rock? I’m really not sure.

progressoverpeace on June 14, 2009 at 9:08 PM

Hello!

Obama’s dumbness knows no bounds.

Loxodonta on June 14, 2009 at 9:11 PM

Hey, maybe there can be a revolution in Iran AND the USA at the same time, or something.

MikeA on June 14, 2009 at 9:12 PM

We have to respect this, right Obama ?

If I knew 100% the current occupant of 1600 wasn’t a jihadist, I’d simply call him a putz.

E T Cartman on June 14, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Straight from the Rove playbook!

Chuck Schick on June 14, 2009 at 9:13 PM

I blame Bush. Always and forever.

dcwvu on June 14, 2009 at 9:13 PM

That’s a courageous stance The Messiah Mistake has staked out on the Iranian convulsions. What a brave, brave soul.

Lightworker indeed.

hillbillyjim on June 14, 2009 at 9:13 PM

I actually feel pretty bad busting on the president when those folks are in such turmoil. Seem a bit petty. They have had riots before and I don’t know how this measures to the past but I guess it could go either way in regards to escalation. I should hold back the snarkiness.

Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM

The party and people of peace!
Nothin’ like a good ole knockin’ around to let the folks know how to vote.
BS

Col.John Wm. Reed on June 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Chaos in Iraq, North Korea is threatening Nuclear War, Obama wants to kill capitalism and ruin the best health Care System in the World. But, hey, isn’t the new Presidential puppy cute?

kingsjester on June 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Straight from the Rove playbook!

Chuck Schick on June 14, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Yes, I saw this everyday during ChimpyMcHalliburton’s illegitimate, ‘selected not elected reign of terror’…that and the concentration camps.

AUINSC on June 14, 2009 at 9:15 PM

I should hold back the snarkiness.

Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Don’t worry, I’ve got enough for both of us.

progressoverpeace on June 14, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Wait, you mean the mullahs aren’t worried about how this is going to poll?

Jim Treacher on June 14, 2009 at 9:07 PM

And what about the mullahs’ friends on Face Book? Have they considered the impact this could have?

Loxodonta on June 14, 2009 at 9:15 PM

the Basij — essentially Iran’s answer to the Nazi SA

No doubt Obama admires their robustness.

infidel4life on June 14, 2009 at 9:15 PM

I blame Bush. Always and forever.

dcwvu on June 14, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Yes, we know…Hitler was Bush’s fault too…btw, why do you guy’s always show up in pairs?

AUINSC on June 14, 2009 at 9:16 PM

My left knee says a storm is a brewin’… And ma’ left knee aint never been wrong.

Claypigeon on June 14, 2009 at 9:16 PM

I blame Bush. Always and forever.

dcwvu on June 14, 2009 at 9:13 PM

It’s always good to stick to the classics.

Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Jim Treacher on June 14, 2009 at 9:07 PM

Whodathunkit right?

/s

alohapundit on June 14, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Well,so far in Iran,if the goons snuff
out the protests,

then Iran has made a leap from the 7th
century,back to the 3rd century!!

canopfor on June 14, 2009 at 9:16 PM

Yes, we know…Hitler was Bush’s fault too…btw, why do you guy’s always show up in pairs?

AUINSC on June 14, 2009 at 9:16 PM

I kinda think its a disgrace to Hitler to put his name in the same sentence as McChimpy.

dcwvu on June 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Prehaps Barry and Michelle can arrange a double date with Mahmoud and the little woman.

diogenes on June 14, 2009 at 9:18 PM

Chaos in Iraq, North Korea is threatening Nuclear War, Obama wants to kill capitalism and ruin the best health Care System in the World. But, hey, isn’t the new Presidential puppy cute?

kingsjester on June 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Brian Williams thinks so…”Ohhhh what a good dog!”

TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2009 at 9:19 PM

So, Obama has been wrong on Stimulus. He was wrong on releasing the “tortue” memos. He was wrong on the government takeover of private auto companies. He was wrong to denounce the AIG bonuses that his administration approved. He was wrong on closing Gitmo (sending Uighurs to Bermuda w/o telling the Brits, possibly bringing terrorists on to US soil, etc). He was wrong that Sotomayor misspoke just once. He was factually wrong on his Speech To The Muslim World. Hw was wrong on bowing to the Saudi King. He was wrong on imposing his ideals on Israel. He continues to be wrong on government spending. He was wrong to lay claim to the results in the Iranian election. He was wrong to hurry in and say he would still like to have talks with Ahmadinejad.

Considering all of that, and I know I have left out more than a few, anyone is going to trust Obama to be right on healthcare reform?

myrenovations on June 14, 2009 at 9:19 PM

The future of a Mohammadanized EU?

Allahu Orwell!

profitsbeard on June 14, 2009 at 9:19 PM

Ochimpy apologizes to the thugs for the skin, blood and hair stuck on their boots. Congress allocates funds for Iranian shoe shines.

csdeven on June 14, 2009 at 9:19 PM

The question of the day is whether any reporter is going to ask The Precedent to defend his years of demanding that we speak at a table with people who are more likely to eat the table than bargain in good faith – based on what everyone has seen with these election scenes?

Yes … it’ll never happen. Our MSM are nothing but slugs with teeth.

progressoverpeace on June 14, 2009 at 9:20 PM

So, Obama has been wrong on Stimulus. He was wrong on releasing the “tortue” memos. He was wrong on the government takeover of private auto companies. He was wrong to denounce the AIG bonuses that his administration approved. He was wrong on closing Gitmo (sending Uighurs to Bermuda w/o telling the Brits, possibly bringing terrorists on to US soil, etc). He was wrong that Sotomayor misspoke just once. He was factually wrong on his Speech To The Muslim World. Hw was wrong on bowing to the Saudi King. He was wrong on imposing his ideals on Israel. He continues to be wrong on government spending. He was wrong to lay claim to the results in the Iranian election. He was wrong to hurry in and say he would still like to have talks with Ahmadinejad

And still with the MSM and lazy voters he’ll win again in 2012! God Bless these United States!!

dcwvu on June 14, 2009 at 9:20 PM

allocates funds for Iranian shoe shines.

csdeven on June 14, 2009 at 9:19 PM

Raaaacist!

thomasaur on June 14, 2009 at 9:21 PM

My Left knee says a storm is brewin’….

claypigeon on June 14,2009 at 9:16PM.

claypigeon: I agree,the sh#t winds are a stiring!:)

canopfor on June 14, 2009 at 9:21 PM

I should hold back the snarkiness.

Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 9:14 PM

Don’t worry, I’ve got enough for both of us.

progressoverpeace on June 14, 2009 at 9:15 PM

Peddle to the metal!

MB4 on June 14, 2009 at 9:22 PM

csdeven on June 14, 2009 at 9:19 PM

Heh heh.

progressoverpeace on June 14, 2009 at 9:23 PM

dcwvu on June 14, 2009 at 9:13 PM

But of course. The psychoses of the left will always need a scapegoat.

infidel4life on June 14, 2009 at 9:23 PM

I kinda think its a disgrace to Hitler to put his name in the same sentence as McChimpy.

dcwvu on June 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM

Hahaha…got you confused with drrtn I think…

AUINSC on June 14, 2009 at 9:23 PM

then Iran has made a leap from the 7th
century,back to the 3rd century!!

canopfor on June 14, 2009 at 9:16 PM

And don’t forget their nuclear weapons threat. The Stone Age, could be coming soon.

Loxodonta on June 14, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Considering all of that, and I know I have left out more than a few, anyone is going to trust Obama to be right on healthcare reform?

myrenovations on June 14, 2009 at 9:19 PM

But, but…..it will be FREE!

infidel4life on June 14, 2009 at 9:26 PM

For laughs, I read allahpundit’s moonbat tweeties and their moonbat friends comments on twitter.

Usually they are up in arms about everything and sending alerts to everybody about how they, are some other moonbat, was wronged by some neofascistrightwingerroveybushit. But, as to what is going on in Iran — barely a peep. One did comment a couple of times – yesterday. The rest, eh.

So, what I observed on the UK lefty blogs is true — the moonbats love anti-semitic, anti-American dictators – bless their black little hearts!

Blake on June 14, 2009 at 9:27 PM

I was a college Radio News Director during the Iranian Hostage Crisis. During the times of that Revolution, a lot of Irians sent their kids to America to go to college to escape. Those guys would seduce American women to get married and get a green card. After 30 years, Iranians still thirst for freedom. I pray that we don’t wind up in the same condition.

kingsjester on June 14, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Peddle to the metal!

MB4 on June 14,2009 at 9:22PM.

MB4: And rubber to the road!:)

canopfor on June 14, 2009 at 9:28 PM

The Stone Age, could be coming soon.

Loxodonta on June 14, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Forget the Stone Age. The arab/persian/muslim world is daring us to send them back to The Dirt Age.

You’ll be able to see why muslims pray to stones :)

progressoverpeace on June 14, 2009 at 9:29 PM

Blake on June 14, 2009 at 9:27 PM

It’s like our trolls here, they are never on the serious threads defending their indefensible hero, only the ones that allow insults of the right to be thrown. They are about an inch deep. I hope they all went to Ivy League schools.

Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 9:33 PM

Guess the hippies haven’t succeeded in teaching the world to sing in perfect harmony yet? Huh. Thought that was automatic as of January this year if not November of last.

Just need more time. More money. More robust spending. More apologies. More date nights…

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 14, 2009 at 9:33 PM

Forget the Stone Age. The arab/persian/muslim world is daring us to send them back to The Dirt Glass Age.

progressoverpeace on June 14, 2009 at 9:29 PM

Coming soon to their desert sands.

infidel4life on June 14, 2009 at 9:33 PM

Okay, how long can Obama go without making a formal statement? Certainly a statement in front of the WH, flanked by his smarty McSmart pants advisors, is in the works for Monday. What does he say? Obama can’t move forward with diplomacy, as suggested by his twit…er… foreign policy expert of a VP this morning on MTP, can he? I know what the signals are today, but it’s a little under 12 hours till daybreak, and a lot can happen over there in that time. Assuming things get worse-and honestly, how can it not-what will Obama do? Thoughts? And to AP’s point, does anyone have a theory on Iran’s government that would explain the actions of all the players?

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 9:35 PM

….their nuclear weapon threat…..

Loxondonta on June 14,2009 at 9:23PM.

Loxondonta: Nightmarish stuff!But,obtaining nuclear weapons,
is a destiny that is reqired to free 12th whats
his name stuck in zee well!:)

Oh,Lox,I forgot to answer you,in some threads
ago,I’m a male!!:)

canopfor on June 14, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Interesting liveblogging at HuffPo

Wethal on June 14, 2009 at 9:36 PM

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 9:35 PM

It took him for days to make a statement about the soldier’s death in Arkansas, I imagine he thinks he has at least that much time. And after all no one works weekends.

Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 9:37 PM

Assuming things get worse-and honestly, how can it not-what will Obama do? Thoughts?

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 9:35 PM

A short Rose Garden statement (no questions) saying that he is concerned and that he is closely monitoring the situation.

myrenovations on June 14, 2009 at 9:38 PM

“There’s no official confirmation that he died but that’s the word on the street.” – Allahpundit

Woman are stoned to death, people disappear by the hundreds and you expect official confirmation that has an ounce of validity?

diogenes on June 14, 2009 at 9:39 PM

Ya know,I see a day time soap opera in this,
and Obama would fit right in!!

Sands of Passion!!

canopfor on June 14, 2009 at 9:40 PM

The Basij are the primary thugs of the IRGC and the religious law enforcers, keepers of the worst prisons and the same group that herded children to run across the no man’s land during the Iran/Iraq war. Ahmydinnerjacket came out of the IRGC, the ‘protectors of the revolution’ who seem to have been heading into the Praetorian Guard/SS arena of things. They have been attempting to paint themselves as the true face of the revolution by being the ‘protectors’ of it. Their leader has tried to consolidate control over the Army from the IRGC, but that has remained very stubborn to political/religious subversion (just like the German Army held out for some years against the Nazi infestation).

The Basij are about the only loyalists to the IRGC and the regime. Watching the videos you can see the local, civil police running scared as they have to go home… and firing into crowds will not win them hearts, minds or a long life. Still I wouldn’t be surprised to see elements of Hezbollah and the ‘Special Cells’ get called in, plus hiring some thugs from Uzbekistan or from Hekmatyar who seem to run a side business of thug rental when he isn’t supply al Qaeda in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The last time there were minor revolts the regime hired a lot of thugs from central Asia to go after Iranians… but that was only for one city… we have seen video from… what? Five? Six? Seven?

The regime has to think that if they can just cow one city they can steamroller the rest… unless, of course, the Army joins the people. Or the Azeris, Kurds or Baluchs decide now would be a good time to stage an ethnic uprising to leave Iran. Have to wonder what the Iraqi Kurds are saying to their kinfolk in Iran the last couple of days. And would the Army really mobilize to go after an ethinic minority while their cities are in deep unrest and revolt?

In the meantime the regime is having a cashflow problem due to low oil production capacity, low refining capacity and import troubles with natural gas. They could have spent money to fix those up for the decades of maintenance they didn’t do so as to get some cash into the economy… but instead they wanted nukes… that doesn’t look so hot, now, as folks are fed up with high natural gas and gasoline prices, on top of a stolen election. Plus civil servants not getting regular pay for the last year. Something is going to give.

ajacksonian on June 14, 2009 at 9:41 PM

A short Rose Garden statement (no questions) saying that he is concerned and that he is closely monitoring the situation.

myrenovations on June 14, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Dude. You’re good.

House. Jake Tapper: “The White House has not issued a statement expressing support for the protestors declaring the election illegitimate. But neither has anyone in the Obama administration said a public word accepting the legitimacy of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s reelection. ‘We’re reacting to concrete facts,’ a White House official tells ABC News. ‘We’re collecting them still.’” More here.

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 9:35 PM

He’s got tough competition on this. Clinton was hiding away for almost two weeks while the Russian tanks were firing shells into the parliament and trying to take over the TV station.

I have faith that The Precedent will surpass Clinton with a breathtakingly stupid response – a precedent in the stupidity that will spill forth, when he does finally come out of hiding. But it’s still the weekend, so … don’t bother him.

progressoverpeace on June 14, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Peddle to the metal!

MB4 on June 14, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Balls to the wall! Because our side has some.

califdreamnred on June 14, 2009 at 9:43 PM

Send in Jimmy Carter. I hear he’s in that part of the world sucking up to murderers.

txag92 on June 14, 2009 at 9:43 PM

All goes back to Carter !!

Long live the Shah !

HerseyK on June 14, 2009 at 9:44 PM

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 9:35 PM

I’ll give it a shot.

Ok if he comes out with a statement “supporting” the students; he’ll have to answer awkward questions about Friday afternoon where he all but took credit for Mousavi’s victory. And then he will antagonize Ajad and his thugs who are likely to win.

On another level he will be forced to admit that his foreign policy approach has been ruined by the actions of the Mullahs. Those of us on the right who have been critical of the left because of their naivety towards the world just got an object lesson in why it is that their foreign policy approach is dangerous.

He can’t credibly support the students and support his naive foreign policy they are mutually exclusive.

And we know that the arrogance won’t allow them to walk back their policy of “engagement”.

elduende on June 14, 2009 at 9:44 PM

They are about an inch deep.

Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 9:33 PM

How deep does the wax need to be to make a nice shine? That’s about all they have. Shine and scuff marks.

Loxodonta on June 14, 2009 at 9:45 PM

God help these poor people. All they want is to be free. May God Bless them in their fight for freedom. We all need to pray for them

bloggless on June 14, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Obama the yakker. Incessant yakker. Incessant TV yakker. Do nothing, know nothing yakker. How about that gray hair?

LarryG on June 14, 2009 at 9:46 PM

Has anyone ever heard of the Bilderberg Group? If so, is it a real organization or comprised of “truthers”?

txag92 on June 14, 2009 at 9:47 PM

It took him for days to make a statement about the soldier’s death in Arkansas, I imagine he thinks he has at least that much time. And after all no one works weekends.

Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 9:37 PM

If he muffs it that badly, I don’t think even the Press will be able to offer enough cover. CNN has been reporting heavily (by their standards) on the situation tonight, making it difficult for Obama to ignore it, at least more so than if CNN waited for Obama to speak about it, to make it a story “officially”. So the clock is ticking, and I’ll be listening really closely to what he has to say…

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 9:47 PM

Maybe this should be sent to every dumbass Fudd who thinks guns are only for hunting and voted for Obama.

Whatever would you need a scary “assault” weapon for?

burnitup on June 14, 2009 at 9:48 PM

LarryG on June 14, 2009 at 9:46 PM

How about that dog? Ain’t he cute? Look masses, a dog! A dog!

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

A DOG PEOPLE, LOOOOK!

alohapundit on June 14, 2009 at 9:48 PM

canopfor on June 14, 2009 at 9:28 PM

And the soles of our boots to their asses!

csdeven on June 14, 2009 at 9:49 PM

Meanwhile, after devoting a few hard hours of thought to it since my last post, I’m more puzzled than ever as to why Khamenei would side with Ahmadinejad by endorsing such patently fraudulent results. How does the benefit to him outweigh the cost?… It’s insane…

It makes perfect sense if you think as a megalomaniac despot. If you’re the Éminence Grise in this scenario, it’s better to have an unpopular puppet to more easily blame for all of the ills than a popular one who might be able to turn the tables on you…

elgeneralisimo on June 14, 2009 at 9:49 PM

elduende on June 14, 2009 at 9:44 PM

That’s about how I see things. It’s a pretty tight corner he’s painted himself (and us) into.

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 9:51 PM

“Mousavi hasn’t been seen since the election, by the way. Is he dead? In prison? Or, as another hot rumor has it, is he meeting with Khatami and Rafsanjani to form a united “reformist” front?”

This answers AP’s questions. From ABC News:

Mousavi has called for the results to be dismissed and a new vote taken. His camp has planned a rally for Monday, marching from Tehran’s Engelab to Azadi Squares. Mousavi himself and former President Mohamed Khatami, his political backer, plan to attend the event.

txag92 on June 14, 2009 at 9:51 PM

elgeneralisimo on June 14, 2009 at 9:49 PM

cogent

alohapundit on June 14, 2009 at 9:52 PM

Loxodonta on June 14, 2009 at 9:45 PM

And for some reason these are the people who’s good opinion the Right craves. So how deep does that make the Right?

Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 9:52 PM

Meanwhile, after devoting a few hard hours of thought to it since my last post, I’m more puzzled than ever as to why Khamenei would side with Ahmadinejad by endorsing such patently fraudulent results. How does the benefit to him outweigh the cost? Even if he’s worried about Mousavi using the presidency to liberalize Iran, he’d be in a much better position to stop him down the road by leveraging his legitimacy as supreme leader. That’s gone now.

That’s been bothering me too, AP. Since Mousavi isn’t really that much of a reformer to begin with, they could’ve spun his win as a minor correction, from Khomeini-ism to Khomeini-ism Lite.

Unless Ahmadinejad came in a distant third… that would change everything.

Then the election would be seen as a repudiation of the entire structure Even though Mousavi is the winner in both cases, the on-the-ground perception would be completely different. Ahmadinejad in a close second place is survivable… in a distant third means the beginning of the end for the regime.

winky the barbarian on June 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM

txag92 on June 14, 2009 at 9:51 PM

Wow! Got a link for that, txag92?

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 9:47 PM

I noted in the other thread that this isn’t the cake walk it would seem. Besides trying to make the right reply, he has to consider what our allies think. Whatever is said will have more resonance if there is a united front. It’s just so hard not to take pokes at him because he’s so annoying.

Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 9:55 PM

Blake on June 14, 2009 at 9:27 PM

I hope you showered and cleaned up before returning here!

Thanks for taking one for the team. I could not go either place without mass quantities of alcohol!

freeus on June 14, 2009 at 9:56 PM

And the soles of our boots to their asss!

cdseven on June 14,2009 at 9:49PM.

csdeven: Thats a big,10-4!:)

canopfor on June 14, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 9:55 PM

It’s only a problem because the moron in the White House has been smugly and stupidly telling everyone to sit down at a table with these animals, and that we were all nasty people for not doing so years ago. From that, there is nothing he can say. But … that never stopped him before. That’s one of the great advantages he has, in being as mind-numbingly stupid as he is.

progressoverpeace on June 14, 2009 at 10:00 PM

winky the barbarian on June 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM

so you guys are missing an important element? try this one on for size:

This is a Revolutionary Guard coup that has used the election as both an excuse and now a cover.

If their guy former (IRGC commander Ajad) had won the election the Pasdaran would have gone about their business but since their guy failed they implemented what they needed to consolidate the power they have been amassing since 2001 and culminates with the nuke they need to guarantee the revolution and their power in perpetuity.

elduende on June 14, 2009 at 10:01 PM

And Obama wants to talk to these bastards.

thmcbb on June 14, 2009 at 9:03 PM

Of course he does. They speak his language – they’re almost as crooked as he is.

Felonious Monk on June 14, 2009 at 10:04 PM

I’m more puzzled than ever as to why Khamenei would side with Ahmadinejad by endorsing such patently fraudulent results. How does the benefit to him outweigh the cost?

You are assuming that Iranians are smarter than Americans. Look at the bill of goods the media sold us on Ochimpy and 69 million Americans bought it lock, stock, and barrel.

The travesty that was perpetrated on America in 2008 is relative to the fraud that is happening in Iran.

csdeven on June 14, 2009 at 10:06 PM

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 9:53 PM

Here you go:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=7838213&page=1

txag92 on June 14, 2009 at 10:10 PM

progressoverpeace on June 14, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Wouldn’t you love to know what’s going on? Is he even listening to the leaders of other nations who have more experience? Do you think he dropped a dime on W? (Yeah, right, probably Jimah!) In what world would this man consider experienced enough to handle these situations? I am pretty sure that the only one impressed with his intimate knowledge of life in the Muslim world as a child is himself.

Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 10:11 PM

progressoverpeace on June 14, 2009 at 10:00 PM

Ochimpy is as two dimensional as a picture of himself. The Iranians have out maneuvered him and put him in a corner that he now has to try and double talk his way out of. The next few days should be a real exhibition of disingenuous claptrap and outright lying.

csdeven on June 14, 2009 at 10:11 PM

You know, all these Iranians sat on their hands while Dinnerjacket and the Ayatollah were sending in Quds forces into Iraq, selling IEDs and ESPs to AQI to kill coalition forces. They sat on their hands while homosexuals were hanged for their “crime”. They sat on their hands while women were assaulted in the streets for not being properly dressed.

Now, NOW, I’m supposed to give two fiddles about some of the butthurt ones getting killed. HAHA. Fat chance. At no point did they ever stand up for themselves. Their weakness allowed things to get to this point.

Blarg the Destroyer on June 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Do we send Hillary over with a “reset” button now? Just curious.

freeus on June 14, 2009 at 10:16 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=7838213&page=1

txag92 on June 14, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Thanks.

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 10:16 PM

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