Video: Biden on Iran
posted at 11:33 am on June 14, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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In his own way, David Gregory dismantled Joe Biden on Meet the Press today. Biden kept tiptoeing around the obvious fact that Iran inexplicably and clumsily threw the election yesterday for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and insisted that the US would continue to press for engagement with whomever the mullahcracy chose as its front man. However, Gregory dug into Biden’s record and found a choice quote that demonstrates Biden’s cluelessness on Iran, and strips credibility from everything Biden says — and Biden apparently doesn’t realize it. The moment comes just before the 2-minute mark:
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GREGORY: A couple of years ago, you said the following about Ahmadinejad when you were on the campaign trail: “Ahmadinejad, the madman, is in competition with mullahs and ayatollahs who think he’s overstepped his bounds” … Biden called [him] “that wacko guy, the crazy president,” and said he would be in office for a little more than a year before being “taken out” because he threatened Shi’a interests. He’s proved to be more durable than that, hasn’t he?
BIDEN: Yes.
Anyone who thought that Ahmadinejad didn’t at all times represent exactly what the Guardian Council and Supreme Leader Ali Khameini want is projecting Western politics onto Iran — a huge mistake. As this election shows, the GC and Khameini get exactly what they want. Ahmadinejad didn’t get elected president the first time because the people of Iran wanted an obscure mayor of Tehran to run the country; the GC wanted Ahmadinejad for their own reasons. He is entirely their creature, which is why they made sure that the election this week was nothing more than a formality, although they certainly botched it badly in the end.
Note that he also dodges the question of whether Iran is a democracy. That reflects Biden’s Inspector Clouseau approach to Iran in this interview. He’s talking about “counting the votes” in an election in which the mullahs hand-picked the candidates, including the now-arrested Mirhossein Mousavi, the supposed “reformer” who found out a little late that he was just a sop to the masses. The vote count is about as relevant as the tallies for an election in Soviet Russia during the Cold War. The problem isn’t the vote count; it’s that the election was never free or fair from the very beginning.
The administration seems to keep laboring under the delusion that Iran is anything other than a theocracy run by a group of mullahs who hold all of the real power, and have no intention of sharing it. Elections are just a way to mollify the 70 million Iranians by offering them the illusion of power sharing. When the administration wakes to that fact, then they will understand that all of this handwringing over polls and vote counting is entirely ludicrous, as is the notion of continuing to offer dialogue to a regime that has made the perhaps-fatal mistake of making all of this even too obvious for the Western media.
And remember that Barack Obama chose Biden as a running mate for his foreign policy expertise.
Update: What could possibly make this more ridiculous? Joe Biden letting people know that he still is considering a run at the top job when Obama leaves office. (Both links via William Amos)
Update II: Had the wrong clip initially, but it should be fixed now.
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Ed I think that is the Israel clip not the Iranian one
William Amos on June 14, 2009 at 11:45 AM
But that Israeli clip is as good as the Iranian one. Also is Joe getting defensive about stimulus spending.
Some good stuff there. Was some hard questions.
William Amos on June 14, 2009 at 11:47 AM
what a disaster for America…….god help us
marktarheel on June 14, 2009 at 11:49 AM
I can’t believe David Gregory, of all people, committed the sin of journalism against The One’s representative. That’s just amazing.
Laura on June 14, 2009 at 11:49 AM
I thought it’s dangerous for such old men to run for president.
Phoenician on June 14, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Ah, Gregory should know better than to beat up on retards like that.
conservnut on June 14, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Here’s another gem from Biden…that they “guessed wrong” about the stimulus (whoops!):
http://thepage.time.com/2009/06/14/stimulus-apologies/
AUINSC on June 14, 2009 at 11:51 AM
Why does Gregory press the white guy but not the black guy? He’s clearly a racist.
JiangxiDad on June 14, 2009 at 11:52 AM
How could we expect Obama to take foreign elections more seriously than he took his own. As long as the candidate of choice wins in the US (d party affiliation) all’s fair to get that candidate elected. So if another country uses the same tactics, well who are we to complain.
eaglewingz08 on June 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM
I wonder is Biden knows how painful it is for ordinary Americans to watch him?
pat on June 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Sorry for confusing you Ed the stimulus spending clip is another video not that Iranian one.
All 5 clips of Joe Biden interveiw here
Biden: N. Korea a ‘destabilizing force’
Biden: Stimulus making an impact
Biden on financing health care reform
How much is too much federal intervention?
Biden: Russert had ‘a rare gift’
William Amos on June 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Ed puts up the wrong clip and has the nerve to call Biden clueless.
Biden did an amazing job. Anyone who thinks he’s a retard is a retard.
harry boris on June 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Nope.
Typhoon on June 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Still rather have him than Obama.
clnurnberg on June 14, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Gregory has some tough questions in store for Obama. For example, “Are you just A god, or are you THE God?”
Felonious Monk on June 14, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Holy crap. That’s the talking point?? LMAO. Barry’s panties are WET.
JiangxiDad on June 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Geez I sent Ed two video clips and they were both embed codes and not just a link. It was a easy mistake to make.
And Ed isnt the VP of the country in charge of making critical decisions !
William Amos on June 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM
It’s the right clip now.
Ed Morrissey on June 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Maybe the VP is the designated fall guy so that NBC gets it’s credentials as a real news organization instead of the media arm of the White House.
Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM
David Gregory is married to a Fannie Mae VP, totally in the tank and dishonest like his wife
clnurnberg on June 14, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Ah…the whiff of desperation in the morning…
AUINSC on June 14, 2009 at 11:57 AM
If this circus helps Israel to stand up for itself, some good will have come out of it.
OldEnglish on June 14, 2009 at 11:57 AM
LMFAO!!!
“Biden tells “Meet the Press” that “everyone guessed wrong” on the impact of the stimulus, economy was worse off than anyone thought.”
Yeah, he’s amazing.
Amazingly retarded.
BallisticBob on June 14, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Obama from ACORN sees nothing wrong with fixing elections thus the problem with the WH seeing the potential conflict here. They are pragmistists. This is what “pragmistist” means. Willfully looking the other way on human rights, free fair elections, corruption etc and dealing with the “power” in charge no matter what.
unseen on June 14, 2009 at 11:57 AM
I love how Barry comes out and takes credit for his Cairo speech having made a difference in Iran. LMAO. Does anything sum up the Left’s naieve foreign policy views more than this Iranian “election” result? So rich.
marklmail on June 14, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Anyone who say’s Ed is a retard is just a retard. LOL.
JiangxiDad on June 14, 2009 at 11:58 AM
Hey Harry, don’t “bore us” with your daily commie crap.
hip shot on June 14, 2009 at 11:58 AM
I still cannot BELIEVE not ONCE during the campaign did biden’s plagiarism come up.
TTheoLogan on June 14, 2009 at 11:58 AM
I wonder how Governor Palin would have handled this interview if she were VP. I suspect the contrast would be startling.
a capella on June 14, 2009 at 11:59 AM
Thanks for sharing that, kid.
Del Dolemonte on June 14, 2009 at 11:59 AM
How many stupid and idiotic things does biden have to say/do before he’s considered the moron that he is?
TTheoLogan on June 14, 2009 at 11:59 AM
Should put up some of the other clips ed. That Israel one and the one about expaning government are priceless. Joe’s seems upset he got tough questions.
Better yet put in that link to the NY Stimulus spending with Joes Answers. The one where stimulus money is buying government food for the poor.
William Amos on June 14, 2009 at 12:00 PM
It’s like dropping a infield pop fly and losing the game. Never, repeat never, go out without your pre-approved talking points. Sweet!
JiangxiDad on June 14, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Mission Accomplished.
Del Dolemonte on June 14, 2009 at 12:00 PM
What does this mean. The man is taking off prompter public speaking lessons from the One. Smart Power baby. A guy I work with sends out Obama polic hate e-mails every day, but when asked if he would vote for him again says he would. That attitude is what scares me.
cobrakai99 on June 14, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Biden thinks the MSM is going to go under the bus with him. He’s sooo stoooopid that it’s fun.
JiangxiDad on June 14, 2009 at 12:01 PM
YOu haven’t been paying attention have you? The media is part of the dem bureaucracy.
They studiously ignored or spiked everything that even had a remote chance of damaging Obama. His connections, his record, his wife’s sketchy “reason” she is no longer an attorney. Everything.
clnurnberg on June 14, 2009 at 12:01 PM
One small misstep for the Right. One giant leap for the Left.
Let’s keep those “victories” in perspective.
Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 12:03 PM
But, but, foreign policy is Joe’s specialty!
obladioblada on June 14, 2009 at 12:04 PM
And Ed’s been known to make a typo or two from time to time! What a dolt!
I hate the term “retard”, but in Biden’s case it’s more a known fact than mere speculation.
ddrintn on June 14, 2009 at 12:04 PM
Biden: “You’re asking a me a question about Iran? I’m afraid that’s above my pay grade. My area of expertise does not extend to Africa,”
MaiDee on June 14, 2009 at 12:05 PM
“The supreme leader is the Supreme Leader.” That is what Gaffetastic Joe said. I need a translator!
“We are not going to allow Iran to go nuclear anymore than the rest of the world is going to allow Iran to go nuclear.” Uhm, testing 1,2,3… testing. Joe did you clear that with god, a.k.a. Dear Leader? Because dude, that is soooo not what #1 told the world in Cairo!
I fully expect SNL or someone to goof on this appearance.
freeus on June 14, 2009 at 12:06 PM
I wish biden would have used his, “I have a higher IQ than you!” line.
TTheoLogan on June 14, 2009 at 12:06 PM
Right now Axelrod and Emmanuel are stringing a make-shift closeline in the oval office to dry out everyone’s underwear. In an hour or two when they’ve re-dressed, we may hear the spin begin.
JiangxiDad on June 14, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Where have you been the past 36 years or so? Biden is a disgrace.
The best that can be said for Biden is that he has foreign policy tenure. And we know how well that works out in academia.
BuckeyeSam on June 14, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Biden babbling banally.
How deep do those hair plugs go?
profitsbeard on June 14, 2009 at 12:08 PM
The quality of trolls our education system is kicking out these days is decreasing with every hour.
Preview of next week’s talking point.
cobrakai99 on June 14, 2009 at 12:08 PM
Coming from you, I take that as a complement.
conservnut on June 14, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Looks like Mr. Gregory might be in danger of never being invited to ride on Air Force One again.
It does have a certain “baby seal being beaten with a bat” feel to it, doesn’t it?
WordsMatter on June 14, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Biden can’t possibly be so stupid to think the party would even nominate him as candidate for pres in 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a fool!
xler8bmw on June 14, 2009 at 12:11 PM
It’s pretty clear from this that the WH has not intention of doing anything to upset the Mullahs in Iran…the Iran policy is nothing more than kissing Ahmadinejad’s butt and hoping they don’t nuke anybody we care about. Of course, like every other brilliant idea they have, it won’t work. The Iranian people can expect nothing from this administration.
AUINSC on June 14, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Whilst it would be comedy gold watching Slow Joe try to take over the cult, it still worries me that he might be able to do it, given the brain dead voter base that fell for Obama in the first place.
Kensington on June 14, 2009 at 12:12 PM
Then give me my Special Olymics medal and my applesauce, chump.
TMK on June 14, 2009 at 12:13 PM
Odd. The video wouldn’t load for me, but I got it from RealClearPolitics with no problem.
What boggles my mind is that some people who call themselves Republicans wouldn’t vote for McCain because of his VP candidate, so they voted for this moron instead.
ProfessorMiao on June 14, 2009 at 12:13 PM
Then you really are truly retarded.
harry boris on June 14, 2009 at 12:13 PM
We really dodged the Palin chick, didn’t we?
promachus on June 14, 2009 at 12:14 PM
I can’t. You may be retarded but you’re not good at anything.
harry boris on June 14, 2009 at 12:15 PM
I didnt know Bo Biden posted here !
William Amos on June 14, 2009 at 12:15 PM
B
They aren’t really hairplugs. It’s just the stuff from inside his head leaking out.
ProfessorMiao on June 14, 2009 at 12:15 PM
And the GOP (thanks, Mav!) was too, too precious to get down in the trenches and get dirty. The fact is, we can get the message out in spite of the media. Sarah Palin did it. She got the country talking about the fact that Obama’s good buddy Ayers is a domestic terrorist and the media twisted themselves in knots to spin it. But the point is, they were on defense, and that’s where we want them. If we want stuff like Biden’s deplorable record to come up, then we have to fight tooth and nail to MAKE it come up.
Laura on June 14, 2009 at 12:16 PM
The funny thing is that Obama probably let Biden out of his cage specifically to go talk to the press about what is happening in Iran because he is supposed to have had all this long and detailed foreign policy experience from his time in the Senate. The only problem is that his long and detailed foreign policy experience in the senate mainly consisted of him being completely wrong on just about every major foreign policy issue in the last 25 years.
Dreadnought223 on June 14, 2009 at 12:16 PM
Keep in mind this is the Winnie the Pooh doctrine.
William Amos on June 14, 2009 at 12:17 PM
Actually, Ed is more important and useful than any VP has ever been.
WordsMatter on June 14, 2009 at 12:18 PM
Ok Einstein, since you are obviously the real intellect here. How about you wax poetic for a while about what Joe the retard said that was so brilliant.
conservnut on June 14, 2009 at 12:19 PM
I am troubled by Biden’s inflection in his last line:
He makes it sound as if there is nothing we can do about it, and that if it happens, well then, it’s not our fault—we did not give them permission; they were just being disobedient.
Am I reading too much into this?
IrishEi on June 14, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Not any more.
Remember: Dissent is patriotic. Trolling is just annoying. Tossing around ad hominems and hijacking threads will get you banned.
Ed Morrissey on June 14, 2009 at 12:20 PM
demonstrates Biden’s cluelessness on Iran, and strips credibility from everything Biden says — and Biden apparently doesn’t realize it. The moment comes at the mark:
cause there never was any credibility, only a moron wrapped in a idiot.
SHARPTOOTH on June 14, 2009 at 12:20 PM
David Gregory totally whiffed on this interview. It was embarrassing. All he asked was “How do you deal with this regime?” The real question was why the idiot messiah has tried to be condescending (in his sub 100 IQ way) in saying over and over that we must talk to this group of insane idiots (The Precedent’s sort of people) when it is now clear to everyone how incredibly stupid that attitude is. The idiot messiah’s idiocy with respect to Iran has been laid bare and Gregory tip-toed around it.
Gregory and Biden make a good couple.
progressoverpeace on June 14, 2009 at 12:21 PM
“the Supreme Leader is the Supreme Leader”
Wow……Wisdom at its best.
the Coondawg on June 14, 2009 at 12:21 PM
harry boris on June 14, 2009 at 11:54 AM
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Now why does the name Harry Boris sound familiar? You’re the guy on the TV show wearing the black suit w/ a tall girlfriend. That is right! Your boss’s name was fearless leader and you trying to catch moose & squirel. To bad the show got cancelled in 64′. Do still try to keep in touch with Bullwinkle. Enquiring leftist socialist minds want to know. Let the sharing begin.
Americannodash on June 14, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Ah man! just when i was about to go troll hunting!
conservnut on June 14, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Yikes, kid, gotta tell you, you’re missing something upstairs. Sharpest tool in the shed and all that.
Annietxgrl on June 14, 2009 at 12:22 PM
For what it’s worth, I hear it the same way you do. It’s not a matter of “allowing”, in other words what Iran does is not America’s responsibility (unless, of course, there is positive credit to be claimed!).
ProfessorMiao on June 14, 2009 at 12:22 PM
getalife.
Del Dolemonte on June 14, 2009 at 12:22 PM
An administration that saunters all over the world stating that the United States shouldn’t “impose” itself or its values on other nations sends it’s number two to Meet the Press so he can unequivocally state that the United States will need to analyze the election results and will do so, etc. Sounds kind of heavy-handed to me…
So which is it, Barry?
D2Boston on June 14, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Well, that was a short commenting career.
Count to 10 on June 14, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Don’t make it worse, it’s Badenov.
Felonious Monk on June 14, 2009 at 12:23 PM
(applause)
Del Dolemonte on June 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM
If so, he will have to wait for the next open enrollment before he can start up again.
conservnut on June 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM
I think Sarah made burgers out of him. (they tasted funny)
thomasaur on June 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Good point, but considering that Gregory is probably still wearing his silk print Obama underwear that he had on election night, it was about the best we could get from a key Obamapologist. Just goes to show you how easy it is to make Biden look like a fool… actually, his very existence and ability to speak naturally results in a foolish persona.
WordsMatter on June 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM
What exactly are we waiting for JOe? For them to arrest and murder all the “opposition”? No more opposition! I guess that would take care of the problem for Barry, eh?
bloggless on June 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM
I can only hope that the people in Iran overturn the Mullahs. In my mind, it is the only way it can happen.
SC.Charlie on June 14, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Actually Biden’s right. Since “the rest of the world is going to allow Iran to go nuclear”, Obama is determined to acquiesce and not be ‘anymore’ opposed than they are.
Bob in VA on June 14, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Harry Boris= Boris Badenov? Nah.
But glad he is gone
clnurnberg on June 14, 2009 at 12:26 PM
think Sarah made burgers out of him. (they tasted funny)
thomasaur on June 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM
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lol …….. where did he goooooooooooooo?
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Americannodash on June 14, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Perfect that makes the Obama administration the further adventures of Moose and Squirrel.
William Amos on June 14, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Yes! Thanks. That’s what I was trying to say but couldn’t. lol.
IrishEi on June 14, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Fixed.
Del Dolemonte on June 14, 2009 at 12:29 PM
Don’t make it worse, it’s Badenov.
Felonious Monk on June 14, 2009 at 12:23 PM
.
Hello,
,
Who are you. Do tell.
Americannodash on June 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Alas Harry…we hardly knew you.
That’s gotta be a record for the Ban Hammer.
Heh!!!
BigWyo on June 14, 2009 at 12:31 PM
My(GOD)we have got Dumb for Pres and Dumber for V.P..What a team.GOD HELP US!!!! Can we last as a country for 3 plus years?I don,t know
thmcbb on June 14, 2009 at 12:32 PM
Biden = gigafail
innominatus on June 14, 2009 at 12:32 PM
“We have to wait for our analysis” And if it comes back that it was rigged then what? Nothing.
They have put in on the table, we are willing to talk.
And if they don’t talk, what then? Nothing.
The world will not allow Iran to get nukes.
What are they going to do? Nothing. They can’t even stand up to N. Korea, a nation full of starving people in a financial meltdown.
Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Sadly Obama and Biden are no match for Rocky and Bullwinkle.
The plucky squirrel runs rings around the Bama when it comes to honesty and intellect.
We have elected Boris and Natasha, all we need is Biden in Ninotchka drag.
clnurnberg on June 14, 2009 at 12:36 PM
:::snort:::
tru2tx on June 14, 2009 at 12:37 PM
In the name of the prophet, I issue a fartwa in your general direction.
innominatus on June 14, 2009 at 12:37 PM
look, bambi is doing all this on purpose. and he has a compliant Congress to help him. joe biden is just sort of “out of the loop” (his own words).
but, c’mon, he’s hilarious! we love ‘em! stand up chuck for joe!
kelley in virginia on June 14, 2009 at 12:37 PM
They’ll call the press and do a story on the dog so you stop thinking about it.
They’ll go on a date so you stop thinking about it.
They’ll take over the pop-tart industry so people get confused and angry and stop thinking about it. (Are you beginning to see a pattern here?)
Don’t forget our hostages. Or did you already stop thinking about it?
Felonious Monk on June 14, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Works fine just like that!
clnurnberg on June 14, 2009 at 12:39 PM
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