CNN producer: Iranian students say they’re doomed if Obama accepts the election

posted at 9:14 pm on June 14, 2009 by Allahpundit

Much depends on the meaning of “accepts,” though, doesn’t it? I’m sure we’ll get some patented Hopenchange drivel tomorrow about “grave concerns,” etc, but if Iran’s kids are expecting The One to walk away from nuke negotiations in protest of the coup, they’re kidding themselves. For one thing, that’s something Bush would do, and of course Bush was never, evah right. For another, if Obama walks away then he’s essentially betting all his chips on a full-blown counterrevolution to erupt and topple the regime. If it doesn’t, or if it’s put down a la Tiananmen Square, Khamenei et al. will be in no mood to forgive and forget. Which means it’s either war to take out Iran’s nuke infrastructure or learn to stop worrying and love the Iranian bomb. Israelis are learning already!

What if Obama did walk away, though? There’s actually another possibility here: Western leaders protest the result by ending negotiations and refusing to recognize Ahmadinejad as president, which in turn encourages protesters to keep up their agitation for several more months. Paralyzed and afraid of being overthrown, the regime becomes so desperate that it agrees to give up the nuclear program in exchange for the lifting of all sanctions and renewed diplomatic ties with the U.S. in hopes that the economic turnaround produced by the influx of foreign capital will placate the people. The dilemma for The One here is that he campaigned on the moronic assumption that Iran might conceivably be willing to make a deal on nukes if we just talked nice to them or sweetened our offer a bit. Now comes the moment of truth: Does he really believe that? Does he honestly believe, after years of stonewalling, with the country maybe a year away from being able to build a bomb, that they’re going to throw in the towel now? If not, then walk away. There’s no downside and potentially a tremendous upside if the regime falls or a grateful Mousavi ends up being installed as president. And needless to say, from a moral standpoint, he’d be on the side of the angels. Conflict with the regime is inevitable; if the Iranian public’s willing to fight our battle for us, let’s support them with all we’ve got. As Hitchens eloquently puts it, “Fascism at home sooner or later means fascism abroad. Face it now or fight it later.”


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They always make that mistake. Time after time after time. They never learn. Ever. Their arrogance prevents them from admitting the truth.

LOL. I’m shocked, shocked I tell you, that gambling is going on.

pearson on June 14, 2009 at 10:14 PM

TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2009 at 10:10 PM

Wow! Interesting.

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 10:14 PM

You know how I know the election was fixed? Robert Fisk says that it wasn’t:

An interval here for lunch with a true and faithful friend of the Islamic Republic, a man I have known for many years who has risked his life and been imprisoned for Iran and who has never lied to me. We dined in an all-Iranian-food restaurant, along with his wife. He has often criticised the regime. A man unafraid. But I must repeat what he said. “The election figures are correct, Robert. Whatever you saw in Tehran, in the cities and in thousands of towns outside, they voted overwhelmingly for Ahmadinejad. Tabriz voted 80 per cent for Ahmadinejad. It was he who opened university courses there for the Azeri people to learn and win degrees in Azeri. In Mashad, the second city of Iran, there was a huge majority for Ahmadinejad after the imam of the great mosque attacked Rafsanjani of the Expediency Council who had started to ally himself with Mousavi. They knew what that meant: they had to vote for Ahmadinejad.”

YYZ on June 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Look what The One’s best buddy is doing!

Reports are circulating that Venezuela has sent anti-riot troops to Tehran to help Ahmadinejad, joining Hezbollah members from Palestine and Lebanon who are employed by the Islamic government as anti-riot police — the reason such forces are being brought in is that some of the Iranian police are unwilling to hit people as ordered and some are even joining the protesters.

TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM

What a man of courage and integrity we barely over 50% of us elected.

TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2009 at 9:49 PM

Fixed!

Del Dolemonte on June 14, 2009 at 10:04 PM

If you count the 50% of Americans who couldn’t be bothered to vote, that would be 75% of America is responsible for that despicable piece of human refuse becoming our president.

csdeven on June 14, 2009 at 10:16 PM

carpet bomb with autographed pictures, that’s funny

dip it in cider on June 14, 2009 at 10:17 PM

Obama’s like Clinton.

ddrintn on June 14,2009 at 10:12PM.

ddrintn: You sir,are correct,the ole licked the finger,
and stick it in zee wind,to get the direction!!:)

canopfor on June 14, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Where did that come from?

Cindy Munford on June 14, 2009 at 10:13 PM


Totten

TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2009 at 10:18 PM

TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Got a link?

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 10:18 PM

there is a CRISIS,

and President Obama is SILENT!

canopfor on June 14, 2009 at 10:06 PM

He was NOT silent. My inside contact says he was snoring.

Felonious Monk on June 14, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Am I the only knucklehead who thinks that this goes far beyond whether Mousavi or Ahmadinejad is President?

That is, it’s a direct challenge to the legitimacy of the clerics and their ability to solely determine the presidency?

If the Iranian people are, somehow, able to prevent that, then what’s the next demand that the mullahs have to agree to?

Legitimacy is a tricky thing. Hard to win, easy to lose.

Recall Vaclav Havel’s essay, “The Power of the Powerless”? Excerpts here: Link.

SteveMG on June 14, 2009 at 10:07 PM

No, you’re not the only one. That’s exactly what this is about, which is why its better for our government to shut up about it for a little while. Working behind the scenes is fine, but a public pronouncement by the president (or whoever) would only distract Iranians from what is an Iranian problem. They’ve been so focused on us for so many years, as a perceived source of all of their problems, and now they’re finally getting a glimpse of where the trouble really lies. If we get involved, we just become an easy scapegoat for Ahmadinejad et al. It’s better to leave them hanging right now, even if we have to leave the opposition hanging in the process.

Big S on June 14, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Check out Politico.com. OBAMA PLAYED GOLF TODAY. I know this is a futile what if….but what if Bush had mumbled something about a “robust debate” and then trundled off to play golf with his posse. There would have been 100 liberal pundits screaming for his head.

We are gonna throw the kids under the bus to the hosannas of the press discussing Obama’s crafty realpolitik.

Hope you “independents” out there — the ones have O at a 65 percent approval rating are paying attention.

johnboy on June 14, 2009 at 10:18 PM

They’re doomed. Sad, but true.

SouthernGent on June 14, 2009 at 10:19 PM

Totten

TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Thanks

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 10:19 PM

Question of the day:

It also shows that the regime is wedded to Ahmadinejad and his approach.

Is a regime that just committed itself irrevocably to the most extreme faction, most radical ideology, and most repressive control over the country going to compromise with the West on nuclear weapons or anything else?

TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2009 at 10:19 PM

I just wanted to chime in and point out that this is the sort of brilliant analysis that makes AP one of the best bloggers out there. ;-)

DaveS on June 14, 2009 at 10:09 PM

Yup, he annoys me at times, but all in all, he’s first rate (especially for one posting from the bubble that’s NYC).

petefrt on June 14, 2009 at 10:19 PM

Does ANYONE actually think our Community Organizer is going to take some kind of MEANINGFUL action? Hahahahahahahaha!!
Those students, like we and our economy, are fucked. Get used to it.

GarandFan on June 14, 2009 at 10:19 PM

mjbrooks3

Interestingly, VP Joe gives some reasonable instructions for an approach in dealing with the Iranian situation at the Totten article (from the HotAir headline section)

It looks like we need to give the Iranian people another 2 or so days, to make sure they really want to do this. Then we need to speak.

The Obama staff has 48 hours to make a few recommendations, get a decision, and prepare statements.

Will they get them right?

Arbalest on June 14, 2009 at 10:20 PM

Check out Politico.com. OBAMA PLAYED GOLF TODAY.

johnboy on June 14, 2009 at 10:18 PM

While he was playing golf Iranian Mothers were crying for his help:

According to our private phone conversations with people in Tehran, hundreds of parents have gathered by a police station in Yousef Abad, now known as Seyyed Jamal Aldin Asad Abadi, with their hands raised to the sky saying “Obama, please help us, they are killing our young children.”

TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2009 at 10:21 PM

I love Hopenchange! It’s like its 1938 or something.

Don’t worry though this is all Bush’s fault or something. Some DKos dairy told me so.

When can we have our referendum. I’m all Hopenchange out.

Lance Murdock on June 14, 2009 at 10:21 PM

The Son of a…

TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2009 at 10:22 PM

GarandFan on June 14, 2009 at 10:19 PM

What he said.

MikeA on June 14, 2009 at 10:22 PM

Ok, everyone. Step forward if you’re not doomed. Whoa whoa whoa… not so fast Iranian students rest of the world.

LibTired on June 14, 2009 at 10:23 PM

They are screwed

DougDavis on June 14, 2009 at 10:25 PM

We’re closing in on ‘gird you loins’ time, I don’t believe we are there quite yet.

The Norks -with at least tacit support of China- are pushing the envelope, in fact, we already appear to have conceded

…strategic control of the United States in the North-West quadrant of the Pacific or North East Asia

to China & Co..

Earlg on June 14, 2009 at 10:25 PM

That’s exactly what this is about, which is why its better for our government to shut up about it for a little while.

I disagree. I think the Administration has to make an explicit and direct statement that if the protests are met with brutal and excessive force that there will be severe consequences.

No Tiananmen redux.

SteveMG on June 14, 2009 at 10:26 PM

Yeah, on Meghan McCain and the latest Palin slight. He’s getting distracted with all this real news stuff. There’s always tomorrow.

mossberg500 on June 14, 2009 at 9:54 PM

Stop.

Mommypundit on June 14, 2009 at 10:27 PM

I suggest The Pinnochio Presidente send his very fine Secretary Of Sate to Iran to investigate and report back to Pinnochio and his Congress Critters on the openness and fairness of this election.
Perhaps he could have her teach the Iranians a few tricks on how to organize more voters than there are citizens in some counties and how to contact and count the dead vote, illegal alien vote and out of state non registered vote ala ACORN.

Does anyone suspect O’Biden is being fitted for a ballgag after his very fine appearance on Meat The Presstitutes?

dhunter on June 14, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Wonder if the Cubans who lived through the Bay of Pigs debacle feel empathy for the Iranian students about now. They were left standing at the alter by a young swaggering Democrat president too. Expect a similar outcome.

MikeA on June 14, 2009 at 10:28 PM

You kids are not only dead, Obamas going to claim you as carbon offsets.

Chuck Schick on June 14, 2009 at 9:24 PM

Bwahahaaaaahahaha!

Can’t wait for the new level of “above-it-all” parsing from BO et al. Hey Hill, got any more “reset” buttons???

orville on June 14, 2009 at 10:28 PM

Dear Students,

You are doomed.

Love,

mankai

P.S. So are we.

mankai on June 14, 2009 at 10:29 PM

So,if Obama was playing golf,and the State Runned
Media,had a catniption fit over President Bush golf
ing during the Iraq Liberation,

wheres the MSM’s outrage of Hopey,playing golf
during this CRISIS!!

canopfor on June 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM

Roger Cohen in the New York Times:

I’ve argued for engagement with Iran and I still believe in it, although, in the name of the millions defrauded, President Obama’s outreach must now await a decent interval. I’ve also argued that, although repressive, the Islamic Republic offers significant margins of freedom by regional standards. I erred in underestimating the brutality and cynicism of a regime that understands the uses of ruthlessness.
They always make that mistake. Time after time after time. They never learn. Ever. Their arrogance prevents them from admitting the truth.

TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2009 at 10:09 PM

When I read your post, I was reminded of how Chavez exerts his own power, and how naive our media and Obama are about the parallels.

Then you posted this:

Look what The One’s best buddy is doing!

Reports are circulating that Venezuela has sent anti-riot troops to Tehran to help Ahmadinejad, joining Hezbollah members from Palestine and Lebanon who are employed by the Islamic government as anti-riot police — the reason such forces are being brought in is that some of the Iranian police are unwilling to hit people as ordered and some are even joining the protesters.
TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2009 at 10:15 PM

Why does this news not surprise me?

Is this the type of mayhem that Obama is trying to create in our own country in order to seize power? I believe that it is possible, given where his sympathies appear to lie.

onlineanalyst on June 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM

Ok, everyone. Step forward if you’re not doomed. Whoa whoa whoa… not so fast Iranian students rest of the world.

LibTired on June 14, 2009 at 10:23 PM

Yup, that’s pretty much going to leave a mark…

doriangrey on June 14, 2009 at 10:31 PM

onlineanalyst on June 14, 2009 at 10:30 PM

Yes, and that is why some of us have spent the remanents of our 401K on ammo and canned goods. For the record, most of us who prepared for it don’t expect to ultimatly win, but we do expect to make our demise very, very expensive for the other side.

MikeA on June 14, 2009 at 10:35 PM

I’m been away for most of the day and haven’t been following HA threads to much today. But I was thinking, Joe Biden after all these years have finally got something right. He said that within six months of this administration, Obama would be tested by a international crisis. Unlike the previous crisis’ we’ve been making fun of, this is truly a crisis for the administration.

Obama has to make a choice. Help the people of Iran free themselves of the Mullah, or back fascism. There is no lawyerly nuance way out of this. It’s clear cut and it is decision time. Obama is going to show his true colors in the next few days. I just pray that the American people will watch too.

If Obama sides with tyrants. Then G-d help us all.

Lance Murdock on June 14, 2009 at 10:37 PM

Obama should do nothing more than issue a strongly worded speech, and perhaps, send dinnerjacket an ipod.

BPD on June 14, 2009 at 10:37 PM

An Open Letter To Iranians:

Dear Iranians,

We are no longer a nation that believes and strives for democracy & freedom worldwide.

We are now a nation that apologizes for everything. I’m sorry.

Respectfully,

Barack H. Obama

angrywonk on June 14, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Why would Obama support the students? I think he has more in common with Ahmadinejad. The students probably don’t hate America as much as Mahmoud, so there is the common interest. Mahmoud, Hugo, Barack; Revolutionary brothers.

exceller on June 14, 2009 at 10:38 PM

We’re closing in on ‘gird you loins’ time, I don’t believe we are there quite yet.

Earlg on June 14, 2009 at 10:25 PM

Maybe we’re not, but I bet Clueless Joe has already quadrupled his weekly order for bulletproof Depends by now.

Instead of sending teabags, maybe we should start sending Clueless Joe “Gird Your Loins” Depends with a big-ass Obama sunshine target boldly plastered on the backside.

orville on June 14, 2009 at 10:41 PM

Obama has to make a choice.

Above his pay-grade.

Help the people of Iran free themselves of the Mullah, or back fascism.

He’s backing fascism at home, why not everywhere?

mankai on June 14, 2009 at 10:42 PM

O/T Orlando didn’t even bother showing up tonight…

TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2009 at 10:43 PM

Obama should do nothing more than issue a strongly worded speech, and perhaps, send dinnerjacket an ipod.

BPD on June 14, 2009 at 10:37 PM

Now you’re talkin’!!!

He should then top it off by apologizing!

mankai on June 14, 2009 at 10:44 PM

O/T kinda-sorta: The woman asking questions of Pau Gasol is asking tougher questions of a Basketball player in victory than Obama has EVER been asked about anything! How sad and pathetic the media in this country has become. ABC needs to put this woman in the White House Press Corps!

TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2009 at 10:46 PM

CNN producer: Iranian students say they’re doomed if Obama accepts the Iranian election

My sources within the White House, which must go unnamed for obvious reasons, report that a rush order for 10 more cartons of camels has just been phoned out.

MB4 on June 14, 2009 at 10:51 PM

We’re closing in on ‘gird you loins’ time, I don’t believe we are there quite yet.

Earlg on June 14, 2009 at 10:25 PM

Ya know what? Maybe I’ll gird just in case.

LibTired on June 14, 2009 at 10:51 PM

Koby even gets asked a tough question after being handed the MVP trophy. We ask tougher questions of our pro athletes than our political leaders. I want to barf…

TheBigOldDog on June 14, 2009 at 10:53 PM

lots of crazy stuff goin down

blatantblue on June 14, 2009 at 10:57 PM

suppose obama felt some great empathy for these students. suppose he thought ahmadinejhad was terrorizing them with the help of the hamas, maybe the chavez brownshirts or whomever.

what, exactly, do we think bambi can do? UN sanctions are worthless & won’t help these young protesters (although the UN would give bambi great cover here); a speech condemning the pro-military factions in Iran would be incendiary; just what can we do outside of helping Israel bomb their nuke plants?

and you know we aren’t going to do anything that might look like support for Israel.

maybe we can do something that looks like support for Iraq?

kelley in virginia on June 14, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Iranian students are hoping for pro-democracy backbone from Obama? Ha! That’s funny.

evergreen on June 14, 2009 at 10:59 PM

My sources within the White House, which must go unnamed for obvious reasons, report that a rush order for 10 more cartons of camels has just been phoned out.

MB4 on June 14, 2009 at 10:51 PM

heh.

Weight of Glory on June 14, 2009 at 11:00 PM

you know what would be great for this situation?

more Mo’Toons

blatantblue on June 14, 2009 at 11:00 PM

a speech condemning the pro-military factions in Iran would be incendiary

kelley in virginia on June 14, 2009 at 10:58 PM

Neville Chamberlain thought along similar lines with Hitler’s “activities”. Actually I think he did start condemning them at some point.

MB4 on June 14, 2009 at 11:01 PM

lots of crazy stuff goin down

blatantblue on June 14,2009 at 10:57PM.

blatantblue: And all around,now whats that tune,
You spin me all around,or sumpin like
dat!!:)

canopfor on June 14, 2009 at 11:02 PM

kelley in virginia on June 14, 2009 at 10:58 PM

He can make a statement about the obvious stolen election, and reiterate his support for Democracy in Iran and talk about the obvious violence against people trying to express their right of free speech…oh, never mind.

AUINSC on June 14, 2009 at 11:02 PM

canopfor on June 14, 2009 at 11:02 PM

you spin my head right round right round!

That’s it :D

blatantblue on June 14, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Gary Sick here: Analysis.

Key graf (for me):

The Iranian opposition, which includes some very powerful individuals and institutions, has an agonizing decision to make. If they are intimidated and silenced by the show of force (as they have been in the past), they will lose all credibility in the future with even their most devoted followers. But if they choose to confront their ruthless colleagues forcefully, not only is it likely to be messy but it could risk running out of control and potentially bring down the entire existing power structure, of which they are participants and beneficiaries.

If they push too far, too fast, they risk their own power, albeit on a smaller scale.

Can the opposition be “bought off”?

My guess, the mullahs will agree to some sort of compromise.

What form and shape is anyone’s guess.

SteveMG on June 14, 2009 at 11:03 PM

My sources within the White House, which must go unnamed for obvious reasons, report that a rush order for 10 more cartons of camels has just been phoned out.

MB4 on June 14, 2009 at 10:51 PM

And it isn’t even 3am yet imagine how many cartons they call out for when they get the call that Israel has bombed the Iranian nuclear program.

doriangrey on June 14, 2009 at 11:04 PM

Gary Sick here: Analysis.

SteveMG on June 14, 2009 at 11:03 PM

Is this the same Gary Sick of the Carter Administration “October Surprise” fame?

AUINSC on June 14, 2009 at 11:07 PM

And it isn’t even 3am yet imagine how many cartons they call out for when they get the call that Israel has bombed the Iranian nuclear program.

doriangrey on June 14, 2009 at 11:04 PM

That will be just that many more jobs that Obama created or saved!

MB4 on June 14, 2009 at 11:07 PM

Neither presidential candidate represents anything but more oppression for the Iranians. In Iran, the one who kills the most wins.

Mojave Mark on June 14, 2009 at 11:08 PM

Rush’s question tomorrow (???)

Does Obama want the students to fail?

Upstater85 on June 14, 2009 at 9:34 PM

The fam voted. They all think this was a thread winner!

freeus on June 14, 2009 at 11:09 PM

Is this the same Gary Sick of the Carter Administration “October Surprise” fame?

Unfortunately, yes.

SteveMG on June 14, 2009 at 11:09 PM

…but you see, Iran is a tiny country

- obambi

RedbonePro on June 14, 2009 at 11:11 PM

I’m been away for most of the day and haven’t been following HA threads to much today. But I was thinking, Joe Biden after all these years have finally got something right. He said that within six months of this administration, Obama would be tested by a international crisis. Unlike the previous crisis’ we’ve been making fun of, this is truly a crisis for the administration.

Obama has to make a choice. Help the people of Iran free themselves of the Mullah, or back fascism. There is no lawyerly nuance way out of this. It’s clear cut and it is decision time. Obama is going to show his true colors in the next few days. I just pray that the American people will watch too.

didn’t ol’ Joe say that those that test Obama would find that he’s got a “spine of steel?”

Hmmmph—we’ll see

ted c on June 14, 2009 at 11:15 PM

Thats it:D

blatantblue on June 14,2009 at 11:03PM.

blatantblue: :)

canopfor on June 14, 2009 at 11:16 PM

At times like this, I long for the garbled syntax and staunch defense of liberty for all from W.

PattyJ on June 14, 2009 at 11:17 PM

Big S on June 14, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Maybe it is a pragmatic approach but its not without its negative consequences. The risk with this “silent” approach is that without some external rallying cry the protesters are crushed and the betrayal of our principals in the name of pragmatic expediency further erodes our standing in areas of the planet that look to us as a model of freedom.

elduende on June 14, 2009 at 11:20 PM

I think it’s all pretty much over now…some sporadic flair ups here and there…but Amadinejad remains in power and is much more powerful now than he was before the election. This will probably become a defacto dictatorship…where it was always headed anyway.

I’m sure Obama will give him some love when he calls DinnerJacket to congratulate him on his stunning and surprising democratic victory and the resultant ‘Robust Debate’.

AUINSC on June 14, 2009 at 11:23 PM


“Present”

the_nile on June 14, 2009 at 9:19 PM

AHAHHAHA, THAT WAS ONE TOUGH VOTE FOR BHO,AHAHAHAHA

AMERICAN VETERAN on June 14, 2009 at 11:24 PM

“Present”

the_nile on June 14, 2009 at 9:19 PM

OMG, THATS SOOOOOO FUNNY!!!!HAAHAHAHAHA

AMERICAN VETERAN on June 14, 2009 at 11:25 PM

Q: when was the last time we saw our dear leader in public?

A: Friday afternoon in the Rose Garden where he was taking credit for the Iranian election.

LOL!

Where the hell has he been? Was he not elected to represent us in these little matters??

elduende on June 14, 2009 at 11:32 PM

BHO is calling adaaajeanammmahd<sp? and asking if he can get some ballet stuffing pointers for our 2012 election and he wants his ACORN members sent back to the USSA

AMERICAN VETERAN on June 14, 2009 at 11:32 PM

At the very least Obama could say something like:

I do not know for sure if the Iranian elections were rigged but a lot of Iranians, who are in a much better position to know, certainly seem to think that they were rigged, and in the extreme. I am also deeply saddened by all the reports of the current regime having so many of Iran’s citizens beaten and even killed.

MB4 on June 14, 2009 at 11:35 PM

ackmmmmadidajob<sp? called BHO and thanked him for turning him for loaning iran the chicago branch of ACORN…….

AMERICAN VETERAN on June 14, 2009 at 11:36 PM

ackmmmmadidajob<sp? called BHO and thanked him for for loaning iran the chicago branch of ACORN…….

AMERICAN VETERAN on June 14, 2009 at 11:36 PM

I disagree. I think the Administration has to make an explicit and direct statement that if the protests are met with brutal and excessive force that there will be severe consequences.

No Tiananmen redux.

SteveMG on June 14, 2009 at 10:26 PM

Severe consequences under this bunch means strongly worded letters and less ass kissing than the rest of the world gets.

That and when they meet next year, it won’t be at Camp David, it’ll be at one of the lesser Presidential retreats…and no hugging!

SuperCool on June 14, 2009 at 11:38 PM

Carter brought that Iranian government into the world. It would not be surprising if the neo-Carter kept it in power.

commenter on June 14, 2009 at 11:46 PM

Excellent analysis. That’s an interesting idea about Obama potentially not recognizing the government to spur the agitators.

That would be one hell of a gamble. It would take hundreds of thousands of people in the streets all at once over a sustained period to really overwhelm the police and military. I’m betting they would use any means necessary to put down the rebellion.

Interesting thought, but not gonna happen. Obama doesn’t have the balls to play that kind of poker. That’s Cheney kind of poker.

jonezee on June 14, 2009 at 11:49 PM

Well you know, maybe we shouldn’t meddle in other countries affairs.

/sarc

B Man on June 14, 2009 at 11:53 PM

Just as I said last night, Obama knows what to do…

Send Dinner Jacket a congratulatory Burqa Girls Gone Koranic.

Upstater85 on June 15, 2009 at 12:00 AM

Iranian Students, greatings from the President of the United States. Your sacrifice is great, but your place under the Obama bus is waiting, please stand by to be run over.

Hope.

Mr. Joe on June 15, 2009 at 12:01 AM

Well you know, maybe we shouldn’t meddle in other countries affairs.

/sarc

B Man on June 14, 2009 at 11:53 PM

If Obama promises not too interfere with Israeli security, I think I could go for that.

Upstater85 on June 15, 2009 at 12:01 AM

Iranian Students, greatings from the President of the United States. Your sacrifice is great, but your place under the Obama bus is waiting, please stand by to be run over.

Hope.

Mr. Joe on June 15, 2009 at 12:01 AM

Michelle, is that you?

Goshdarn… just think… If this is how he sacrifices young socialist leaning Islamic youth, I wonder what he’s going to do to those Bible Thumping Gun Toters…

Upstater85 on June 15, 2009 at 12:03 AM

Based on his past actions, I predict Obama will try to split the difference. He’ll start with the strawman argument applied to both sides:

“… there are those who argue we should immediately embrace the demonstrators and land troops to protect them and others who argue that we should uphold the Iranian government and land troops to protect those in power. I reject both of these extreme measures. Instead we must continue in a thoughtful manner to talk with the Iranian government and encourage them to recognize those legitimate concerns of the demonstrators …”

and then he’ll throw in a few attacks at this own country …

“… while we may be tempted to act in an aggressive manner we can never forget that America’s history towards its own protestors is not one that we can always be proud of as my parents knew well …”

… while never forgetting the focus of his speech must always be drawn from himself …

“… some may say that this is an impossible situation. But Americans always dream and attempt to do the impossible. After all, not too long ago no one would believe that it would be possible for a man named Barack Obama to become President. So in that pursuit of the impossible, in that pursuit of a just outcome to this situation, let’s us join with the World to do great things.”

And with that, the Matthews tingle-o-meter will hit ’11 and he’ll proclaim it the greatest speech since the St. Crispin’s Days speech in Henry V.

PackerBronco on June 15, 2009 at 12:05 AM

“…in a stunning display of international savvy and smart power, President Obama gave the green light for Operation Ayatollah Abdul-Jabbar, the aerial bombardment of Qom and Tehran with autographed NBA basketballs. Madeleine Albright could not be reached for comment.—–New York Times Fantasy Edition”

hillbillyjim on June 15, 2009 at 12:17 AM

PackerBronco on June 15, 2009 at 12:05 AM

Damn. You’re good.

winky the barbarian on June 15, 2009 at 12:18 AM

Hey, are we still going to invite the Iranians to our 4th of July parties? Just askin’.

Also, when does Bush get an apology from all of the people who hyperventilated when he labeled North Korea and Iran as part of the axis of evil? Hasn’t he been proven right on both of these countries? I sure wish our current President had that kind of moral clarity.

JohnInCA on June 15, 2009 at 12:23 AM

JohnInCA on June 15, 2009 at 12:23 AM

Well, I don’t know about Dinner Jacket, but we could demonstrate the difference between an American Tea Party and an Iranian hate filled, extreme stone fight… In case Obama hasn’t seen the difference yet.

Upstater85 on June 15, 2009 at 12:25 AM

Obama will carpet-bomb Tehran with autograph pictures of himself.

ThePrez on June 14, 2009 at 9:54 PM

Yeah ! ! With a note blaming America for all the wrongs
in the world.

“Never let a crisis go to waste”

Texyank on June 15, 2009 at 12:25 AM

this has to be the most Iconic picture of the Iranian crisis to date.
http://twitpic.com/7c85l

elduende on June 15, 2009 at 12:25 AM

Monday – “Death to America!”
Tuesday – “Death to America!”
Wednesday – “Coup in Iran!”
Thursday – “Where is America? Why aren’t they helping us!” Friday – “America comes to the aid of Iran!”
Saturday – “Democracy Restored to Iran!”
Sunday – “Death to America!”

ronsfi on June 15, 2009 at 12:26 AM

I wish I had access to my old bookmarks. There was an article in the NYT archives written by an American leftist who aided and abetted the 1979 Iranian Revolution to depose the Shah and bring the Ayatolla back. He said that in retrospect, he’d been horribly wrong – that bringing back the Ayatolla was the worst thing the American Left had ever involved itself in.

There is much irony in the fact that IndyMedia is helping the Iranian bloggers in this current situation. The left has done a complete about-face to try to save face. And unfortunately, the current crop of Iranian students doesn’t even realize that.

I guess the left is successfully dumbing down people all over the world – not just here in America.

Connie on June 15, 2009 at 12:27 AM

I’m probably going to echo a statement all of us here would say is too tired of a meme, but I’ll say it anyway.

I miss Reagan. I really really really do.

He had the guts to demand to Gorbachev ‘Tear down this wall’. It was his policies that made it come to pass (without war mind you).

If Either Bush or Oblahblah was half the man that Reagan was we wouldn’t be having to worry about Iran getting nukes. Instead we may be talking to the president of the New Republic Of Iran about trade routes and oil futures.

I also really wish we could drop a crate full of M16′s as a gift to the students and see how Iran likes to be on the receiving end of meddling with other nations (r.e. Lebanon, Syria and Iraq).

Chaz706 on June 15, 2009 at 12:31 AM

ronsfi on June 15, 2009 at 12:26 AM

Many of us were saying it last night….we have spent the last eight years trying to get an opportunity to support to Iranian reformers, and now Barry, in less then 24 hours, has made us more enemies then Carter ever did.

Way to go, you Democraps. I’m done with the Queensberry rules. Get in the ring or get out of town.

Limerick on June 15, 2009 at 12:41 AM

According to our private phone conversations with people in Tehran, hundreds of parents have gathered by a police station in Yousef Abad, now known as Seyyed Jamal Aldin Asad Abadi, with their hands raised to the sky saying “Obama, please help us, they are killing our young children.”

http://niacblog.wordpress.com/2009/06/14/election-unrest-day-two/

Silence from Obama. Not even one statement. Guess his foreign policy is more important than these students….

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elduende on June 15, 2009 at 12:42 AM

They’re doomed.

Obama has not the courage nor the will to challenge Iran’s current dictator. In fact he might like the status quo.

If there are mass executions and internments or press will ignore the story

clnurnberg on June 15, 2009 at 12:43 AM

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