Video: The Public Plan Deception
posted at 2:14 pm on June 12, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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The guys at Verum Serum strike again with this new video of Democrats and their think-tank allies talking about the real goal of the “public plan” in ObamaCare, the new health plan getting rolled out in Congress this month. The White House says the plan will “keep private insurers honest,” but it seems the dishonesty comes from the Oval Office and Capitol Hill:
The people who designed this approach were very honest about it, as you can see in the above video. None of them talk about “keeping private insurers honest”; instead, they’re openly scornful of private insurance and want to rid us of them as soon as they are politically able to do so. The one couldn’t even bring himself to call the public plan a Trojan Horse, so obvious is its intent.
The entire premise of the public plan, as designed by its originators, was to crowd out the private insurers by undercutting them on price. After all, the government can take losses on the plan for as long as they need to drive everyone else out of the market. Once that process completes, voila! Single-payer remains as the only option.
Time to get on the phones and start telling your Senators and Congressment to vote no on the public plan. We will start next week on The Ed Morrissey Show. Get ready for some activism.
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Stupid answer. But as you know, I knew you’d try to deflect. It’s just who you are … what you do.
darwin on June 12, 2009 at 5:55 PM
canditaylor68 on June 12, 2009 at 5:51 PM
LOL! read her posts from the 24 hours.
Does not believe in Patriotism
Does not love her country
Hitler had a good idea
Proud to be called a brown shirt
No problem with lettermens jokes on Palin’s daughters
on and on….
bazil9 on June 12, 2009 at 5:57 PM
You are serving no one but yourself. That’s what leftists do … that’s who they are.
darwin on June 12, 2009 at 5:57 PM
Do whatever you believe is right.
SouthernGal on June 12, 2009 at 5:57 PM
I don’t think you do care about the fifty million. I think only care about saying you do. you don’t know jack shit about Conservatives or Republicans or what they beleive in. You have obviusly fallen for the liberal talking points hook line and sinker with out getting off your lazy ass and finding for yourself what the truth is.Get an education before you again show the world your ignorance
oldernwiser on June 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Nice smear job and taking my comments out of context.
I’m Jewish so half of your insinuations are highly offensive.
SouthernGal on June 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM
I followed a link from Instapundit to Bloggingheads about this. Megan McCardle was talking about what a bad idea it was. Some Obamabot actually tried to tell me that Obama does not support a single payer system. etc blah blah blah.
I wonder what libertarians like Megan thought they were getting when they voted for Obama? And I wonder why some Obamabot actually thinks that I believe a word Obama says?
Terrye on June 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Let me ask you this. Are there 50 million Americans without health insurance?
SouthernGal on June 12, 2009 at 5:59 PM
So much for the Obama admin wanting healthy citizens…
“The Obama administration has decided to keep secret the locations of nearly four dozen coal ash storage sites that pose a threat to people living nearby.”
canditaylor68 on June 12, 2009 at 6:00 PM
candy:
I have a friend who lost his health insurance when he lost his job. So, I went on line and downloaded the form here in Indiana to help him get state supported insurance. He would not even fill it out. He was not interested. I think that people are underestimating how many people just do not want to get health insurance from the government, any government.
Terrye on June 12, 2009 at 6:00 PM
??? Then why didn’t you offend yourself when you wrote them?
Are you now saying that you’re not proud to be a brownshirt?
darwin on June 12, 2009 at 6:01 PM
SouthernGal on June 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM
They are there for everyone to see chica!
bazil9 on June 12, 2009 at 6:02 PM
No.
darwin on June 12, 2009 at 6:02 PM
What does oldernwiser think?
SouthernGal on June 12, 2009 at 6:03 PM
This is why they will penalize the uninsured with this program.
canditaylor68 on June 12, 2009 at 6:03 PM
SouthernGal on June 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Nice try.
Too late to try to CYA now…
catmman on June 12, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Good.
SouthernGal on June 12, 2009 at 6:04 PM
Whatever he wants … I know that’s contrary to your plans where the mindless masses of America think only what the left wants them to think but hey, it’s still a marginally free country. Although I know you’re working hard to change that.
darwin on June 12, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Road Trip!
Earlg on June 12, 2009 at 6:05 PM
Health Care Lie: ‘47 Million Uninsured Americans’
canditaylor68 on June 12, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Penalties like not having auto insurance. Yeah, I can imagine. A lot of people that don’t have insurance CAN’T get insurance because of pre-exist conditions or they just can’t afford it at the levels when they actually CAN get it, but have diabetes, HBP, etc. I think the solution is in the insurance companies themselves. Make it beneficial for them to compete for OUR money. Like lowes or home depot, if you can get the coverage for cheaper with another company, you will go with said company. Competition…capitalist county…makes sense.
HornetSting on June 12, 2009 at 6:06 PM
The most “TRANSPARENT” administration EVAH!
Star20 on June 12, 2009 at 6:07 PM
that you don’t respond worth a damn, but try to divert attention. To answer your question. Could be. Of the uninsured how many chose to be? how many of that figure are not legal citizens. How many are temporarily between coverage. the number itself is meaningless without data.
oldernwiser on June 12, 2009 at 6:07 PM
I agree.
canditaylor68 on June 12, 2009 at 6:07 PM
SG – Do you think able-bodied adults who currently pay no income, SS or Medicare taxes because they get paid in cash and don’t file returns should get healthcare insurance paid for by the people who do contribute to government in the form of taxes?
txmomof6 on June 12, 2009 at 6:08 PM
GB on 20/20 tonight, interviewed by John Stossel. I can’t remember the last time I actually watched network television, where is that damn channel guide?
HornetSting on June 12, 2009 at 6:10 PM
I hope to God you’re right. I really, really, really hope America wakes up before it’s too late (if it isn’t already). I’m losing faith that there are enough freedom-loving, independent souls left to fight for personal liberty and the free enterprise system. The smug sanctimonious collectivist fools among us certainly think they’ve won. I don’t know how they think they’ll fund their plans when they’ve properly subdued the evil, greedy, rich Republicans and we stop earning enough to feed their vampiric programs. Then no one will have health care. But at least it will be “fair,” right?
aero on June 12, 2009 at 6:10 PM
think the solution is in the insurance companies themselves. Make it beneficial for them to compete for OUR money. Like lowes or home depot, if you can get the coverage for cheaper with another company, you will go with said company. Competition…capitalist county…makes sense.
HornetSting on June 12, 2009 at 6:06 PM
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I agree.
canditaylor68 on June 12, 2009 at 6:07 PM
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Yes, feed me more of this good stuff.
Americannodash on June 12, 2009 at 6:12 PM
YES!
Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Make your voices heard about healthcare.
canditaylor68 on June 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM
David Letterman is the leader of the Democratic Party
Pass it on!
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Americannodash on June 12, 2009 at 6:13 PM
Yeppers.
Eyes-wide-open watching Dancing with The Stars.
Earlg on June 12, 2009 at 6:14 PM
It’s a despicable bit of trolling – trying to tie the shooting to this thread — and exactly what we watch for after an open registration. Buh-bye.
Ed Morrissey on June 12, 2009 at 6:07 PM
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don’t have high blood pressure but it was getting up there with every SG post.
txag92 on June 12, 2009 at 6:14 PM
Here’s the post link.
The most vile troll is now gone. Thank you, Ed Morrissey.
Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 6:16 PM
It’s a despicable bit of trolling – trying to tie the shooting to this thread — and exactly what we watch for after an open registration. Buh-bye.
Ed Morrissey on June 12, 2009 at 6:07 PM
I waited too late to ask my question, but she probably wouldn’t have answered anyway, sigh
txmomof6 on June 12, 2009 at 6:17 PM
Loxodonta -
Got your note on the other thread. I’m sure once I get a job, he’ll calm down considerably. He does not disagree with me at all on politics or the importance of getting these socialists out of power ASAP. He just can’t handle any more stress right now. Cooking a nice dinner for the family sounds like a great idea. :-)
aero on June 12, 2009 at 6:18 PM
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don’t have high blood pressure but it was getting up there with every SG post.
txag92 on June 12, 2009 at 6:14 PM
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What thread?
Americannodash on June 12, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Yes Thank you!!!
bazil9 on June 12, 2009 at 6:18 PM
thank you Ed. More than likely you kept me from going over board and getting myself banned.
oldernwiser on June 12, 2009 at 6:19 PM
Here.
Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 6:19 PM
I think this is why 6 million are without jobs. Makes it a bit easier for Obama to push this crud on Americans. When you have those out there, desperate, and in need of income, and health coverage, that desperation speaks for them. This, every bit of it, was planned, and being executed. It’s just sad that those, like Southern Gal, can’t seem to see thru the facade, to what this really is.
capejasmine on June 12, 2009 at 6:20 PM
What thread?
Americannodash on June 12, 2009 at 6:18 PM
Read the following post:
Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 6:16 PM
txag92 on June 12, 2009 at 6:20 PM
Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 6:19 PM
Beat me to it. :)
txag92 on June 12, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Your comments are even more offensive because you do claim to be Jewish.
Blake on June 12, 2009 at 6:22 PM
aero: Observe, Orient, Decide, Act. Right now people are somewhere between the first two. I still trust my fellow Americans, as a group, to pursue their own liberty.
As to the “smug sanctimonious collectivist fools,” like our dearest SG, pay them no mind. If they get what they’re asking for, they will find it not-at-all to their liking – for the brief moment they have before the monsters (whom they’ve worked so hard to put into power!) pull the ladder up behind. Just google up the video interviews with ex-KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov. If they don’t, then we get what we’re asking for. Not quite win-win, I know, but not lose-lose either.
Blacksmith on June 12, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Thank you, Ed. My blood pressure can go back to normal now. I can’t imagine anyone not loving this country, but I know there are a lot of them out there. And a couple in the White House.
mccain hit on this back on the trail, but then he wanted to tax the benefits that employers already provided and he lost me. Allow the taxpayers a credit if they do not have insurance, leave the others that have benefits alone and give the credit to the business that provides the benefit, so that the taxpayers can have the money in hand, thru tax credits/cuts, to visit the health insurance company/store and purchase the best plan for them.
HornetSting on June 12, 2009 at 6:23 PM
Ding Dong! The Witch is dead.
Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch!
Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead.
Wake up – sleepy head, rub your eyes, get out of bed.
Wake up, the Wicked Witch is dead!
She’s gone where the goblins go,
Below – below – below.
Yo-ho, let’s open up and sing
and ring the bells out.
Ding Dong’ the merry-oh,
Sing it high, sing it low.
Let them know
The Wicked Witch is dead!
Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 6:24 PM
Wow. A day late and a dollar short, I miss all the good stuff. Thanks, Ed! So, what did she say? I noticed Ed deleted it so it must be bad. Use asterisks or pig latin.
Blake on June 12, 2009 at 6:25 PM
I feel like I can actually discuss the topic of this thread now.
Except that I’m exhausted.
Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Incredible.
You’re serving yourself and bankrupting your country. If that’s Service then the word has taken on an entirely new meaning.
rplat on June 12, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Southern
Yes the lie is 47 million not 50.
And around 10 million are NOT Americans.
CWforFreedom on June 12, 2009 at 6:27 PM
Blake on June 12, 2009 at 6:25 PM
Ixny on the Igpay atinlay!
Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 6:27 PM
She knows exactly what it is. Didn’t you catch her snide gloating smugness throughout this thread? She does not love this country, by her own admission. She does not care what the Constitution says, by her own admission. She’s anti-American and hates American ideals (while somehow “loving” its people). She is most certainly a socialist who is gleeful about the fall of the great United States.
aero on June 12, 2009 at 6:28 PM
The government doesn’t “provide” anything to those individuals (citizens or otherwise) who can’t afford it — it just forces the rest of us to provide it to them (by taking our money to pay for it).
But why stop at having us provide only healthcare and internet services to every “American,” regardless of income? Shouldn’t everybody have a right to be provided with a nice home too, regardless of income? And how about a nice car? And certainly everybody deserves to have nice clothes to wear? And a cell phone? And a big-screen, HD t.v.? And video games to play on the t.v.? And quality child care when they want to go out? And several weeks of vacations each year in nice resort locations? . . . .
Why shouldn’t every person in this country be provided with everything they need to enjoy a comfortable lifestyle, regardless of income? Surely all of us who work and save and invest have a moral (if not a legal) obligation to turn our money over to the government so that it can finance a nice lifestyle for everyone who can’t or won’t work to provide it for themselves?
Are you really this stupid, SG, or do you just play a clueless moron on the internet?
AZCoyote on June 12, 2009 at 6:28 PM
So you stood up for the BS they threw against GW I take it
CWforFreedom on June 12, 2009 at 6:29 PM
She can’t answer you, she has experienced the Ed Hammer!
Stupid liberal. Rot.
HornetSting on June 12, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Blake – exactly
CWforFreedom on June 12, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Then double your taxes, and the other liberals can do the same, that way you get what you want, health care for everyone, and you get to feel good about doing it yourself.
You see, you are more then happy to use other peoples money, to pay for what you want.
Over half the people in the U.S. do not pay taxes, and coincidentally, 80% of them vote democrat.
So, to help you out, the ones who don’t pay, want the other to pay…and as you can so easily see, we eventually run out of our money to pay for your “play”.
Time to go to work…put down the fried chicken, taters, bagels, sweet tea, and produce…
right2bright on June 12, 2009 at 6:32 PM
God bless the Ed Hammer!
OT but a smile anyway. Just twittered to me-suggestion for a new group — a conservative ACORN call it PECAN– Politically Enraged Conservatives Against Nuts.=)
canditaylor68 on June 12, 2009 at 6:33 PM
No doubt.
HornetSting on June 12, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 6:26 PM
I work in the industry and would like to give my 2 cents- but I am deflated like you.
bazil9 on June 12, 2009 at 6:37 PM
a conservative ACORN call it PECAN– Politically Enraged Conservatives Against Nuts.=)
canditaylor68 on June 12, 2009 at 6:33 PM
+100
txmomof6 on June 12, 2009 at 6:37 PM
[Trolling, comment deleted, user banned. -- Ed]
SouthernGal on June 12, 2009 at 4:50 PM
It’s a despicable bit of trolling – trying to tie the shooting to this thread — and exactly what we watch for after an open registration. Buh-bye.
Ed Morrissey on June 12, 2009 at 6:07 PM
Thank you, Ed. I missed it. We’ve have a bad storm system come through the Mid-South. Thanks for keeping vigilant.
kingsjester on June 12, 2009 at 6:38 PM
Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 6:26 PM
I agreed, til I rewatched the video at the start of this thread, and got reenergized…:) No rest for the weary.
txmomof6 on June 12, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 6:19 PM
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Thanks.
Americannodash on June 12, 2009 at 6:41 PM
:D where do I sign up
oldernwiser on June 12, 2009 at 6:42 PM
Good grief. Thanks Ed.
elduende on June 12, 2009 at 6:42 PM
What if one of us believed that idiots like yourself shouldn’t be able to vote?
Dark-Star on June 12, 2009 at 6:42 PM
I’m one of those oh so poor uninsured. Thanks, but no thanks I don’t need your help to cover my medical costs. I can take care of them quite well myself. I was offered forms for state coverage and refused them. It isn’t anyone else’s responsibility to take care of me. Do us all a favor and quit being a busybody.
chemman on June 12, 2009 at 6:43 PM
If this dog crap Marxist plan passes,,, then it must be repealed! If it cannot be repealed,, then the next conservative congress needs to pass a new health plan that nullifies the dog crap Marxist plan!
JellyToast on June 12, 2009 at 6:43 PM
Pecan. I love it.
Politically Enraged Conservatives Against Nuts-Perfect, candi.
First you find us free feminine hygeine products to send to the WH. Then, this. I don’t know about anyone else, but I think you deserve a post on our new government…..I’m DHS Sec/Alligator Wrangler….where shall we put Candi?
Oh, and David Letterman is the leader of the democrat party!
HornetSting on June 12, 2009 at 6:44 PM
Well, y’know, lots of unemployed, pissed-off conservatives might backfire on the libs. We’ll finally have the time they’ve always had for marching in the streets and building giant papier mache puppets of the president with bloody fangs and stuff like that. Seemed to work for them. Plus, most of us have guns.
aero on June 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM
Stay safe, king. Make sure you take the computer with you into the closet.
HornetSting on June 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM
The trolls are missing the point of the thread – revealed by the linked video.
What’s the point of the thread, you ask?
It’s not the MERITS of a single payer system.
It’s the fact the Dem’s and their think-tank allies know they have to LIE ABOUT THAT FACT that this is what they want to implement in the US.
Got that, trolls?
Are you still missing the point?
The thread is entitled “The Public Plan DECEPTION”, not “Is Single Payer Better Than The Current System?”
Obama and Co. are LYING about their Health Care plan.
They want to drive private insurance out of business, and they will openly talk about what they want amongst themselves when they think the country is not paying attention, then they will turn around and lie about what they intend to do when speaking to the country itself.
They’re not fooling us any more than you trolls are fooling anybody.
manofaiki on June 12, 2009 at 6:46 PM
I am so there. I have to work in the a.m., but I’m free to make fang faced obama effegies…and
kick themdrag them down the street for you.HornetSting on June 12, 2009 at 6:48 PM
HornetSting on June 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM
The tough stuff has passed through. And my fiancee is napping on the couch. Lots of tree down around the area, though. We have the finest Healthcare System in the World. And the Left is he@@-bent on trying to ruin it. That unpatriotic disgrace to the South did not have a clue.
kingsjester on June 12, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Thanks to all the commentators here and on other threads who have worked so hard to counteract that most vile troll.
And bless Ed Morrissey.
Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 6:51 PM
Was to busy posting to see that SG got banned. I guess she’ll go be a busybody else where. :)
chemman on June 12, 2009 at 6:51 PM
I’m glad to hear you are well. I have a lot of friends in the Dallas area and was really worried about their safety a couple of days ago. All is well.
Yes, SB was a BS and I only pray that she will wake up and realize how great this country is, but she is most likely one of these code pink types that never will. To hell with her.
I say, competition will bring down healthcare costs.
HornetSting on June 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Those that die for their country really have done something. Those that lobby for “universal healthcare” are parasites.
ddrintn on June 12, 2009 at 7:05 PM
Saw somewhere that it is the 60th anniversary of Orwell’s 1984. This video seems to fit right in with the concept of newspeak and doublethink.
txmomof6 on June 12, 2009 at 7:10 PM
Beating a dead horse here, but the YouTube hit counter was at around 7,600 back on May 20 and has been at 7,700-ish all day. (I’ve been wondering if this one would go viral and have been watch the numbers for a few weeks.)
This is a genuine question. Does Youtube fake the numbers on certain videos?
obladioblada on June 12, 2009 at 7:16 PM
A dishonest strawman. We can pay for them. You seem to need a communist environment.
seven on June 12, 2009 at 7:18 PM
More freebies one tooth.
I bet you are on AFDC, Medicaid, food stamps, free birth control and abortions.
Now need free cell phone service, Internet, cable and transportation too.
You are a disgrace.
txdoc on June 12, 2009 at 7:19 PM
This number actually comes from a moonbat site for “shared prosperity”
WTF does Dear Leader plan to do to them??? How’s that for HALF A MILLION JOBS LOST!!!
WHAT A BUFFOON
This doesn’t take into any account of health care depression brought about by our own government.People waiting in lines,getting turned down for life-saving proceedures due to being retired members of society who are no longer productive.
These people must be stopped dead in their tracks on this socialized medicine,and all the other socializations they are doing to ruin the greatest country that ever existed on the face of the earth,based on LIFE,LIBERTY, and THE PURSUIT of HAPPINESS>
UNREPENTANT CONSERVATIVE CAPITOLIST on June 12, 2009 at 7:20 PM
Even if there were, is it morally right to force health care on everyone, and is it morally right to force others to pay for it?
The answer is no. A need does not translate into a right, nor are such needs immune from market forces, no matter how pressing those needs are.
I’d like to direct you to the C.S. Lewis quote above. That is exactly the kind of tyranny we are living in today. It will only get worse under government health care.
TheMightyMonarch on June 12, 2009 at 7:22 PM
No, conservatives believe those things shouldn’t be provided to
USA’s subjectsFREE CITIZENS because it makes slaves out of both the providers and the users.Don’t forget this most important point. The Democrats, as well as their socialist cousins and big-government Republicans, are not interested in governing the people of this country.
They are interested in ruling them.
TheMightyMonarch on June 12, 2009 at 7:27 PM
I am not sure what SouthernGal said to get in trouble, but I think you are mischaracterizing her positions.
mycowardice on June 12, 2009 at 7:34 PM
Thank you for your hard work and thank you Ed.
What a relief.
Knucklehead on June 12, 2009 at 7:34 PM
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Yes. That was some video. I don’t watch many of the videos, but I did that one, and I’m glad.
Obama thinks every one of us is a total idiot. I swear, I don’t think I’ve ever known anyone in the public eye, for any reason, who actually THOUGHT that everyone else had IQ’s of perhaps 60.
And ya know, someone who thinks that is . . . kinda stupid!
Alana on June 12, 2009 at 7:35 PM
P.S. And thank God SouthernGal – who was very likely neither – is gone.
Alana on June 12, 2009 at 7:35 PM
you’re next.
elduende on June 12, 2009 at 7:35 PM
Good news. To paraphrase General Honore, some folks are just stuck on stupid.
coyoterex on June 12, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Something that would be cheered, over at the Kos…hate.
HornetSting on June 12, 2009 at 7:41 PM
Schakowsky is a pure socialist.
WisCon on June 12, 2009 at 7:44 PM
mycowardice-
Do you think able-bodied adults who currently pay no income, SS or Medicare taxes because they get paid in cash and don’t file returns should get healthcare insurance paid for by the people who do contribute to government in the form of taxes?
I asked Southern Gal this but she got banned just as I posted it. What do you think?
txmomof6 on June 12, 2009 at 7:44 PM
mycowardice on June 12, 2009 at 7:34 PM
She equated the terrorist Bermuda situation to the Holocaust Museum situation. She has been trying to dominate, subvert, and berate this entire website for the last two days. Good riddance.
kingsjester on June 12, 2009 at 7:45 PM
I wouldn’t doubt it. Youtube has a history of liberal bias. http://www.americanthinker.com/2006/10/youtube_google_and_the_liberal.html
Try to take screen shots when you suspect something like that is going on.
polmom on June 12, 2009 at 7:46 PM
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