Poll: Should we replace the National Anthem?
posted at 4:02 pm on June 12, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
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Michael Kinsley probably will get a lot of angry e-mail today over his suggestion that the US dump “The Star Spangled Banner” as our national anthem, but the idea has floated around for decades. While Kinsley includes some ridiculous objections to the current anthem, such as an abhorrence of “bombs bursting in air” (a factual if poetic recounting of the War of 1812 battle Francis Scott Key witnessed), some of his points are actually salient:
“The Star-Spangled Banner” is notoriously unsingable. A professor of music, Caldwell Titcomb of Brandeis, pointed out years ago in the New Republic that its melody spans nearly two octaves, when most people are good for one octave, max. The first eight lines are one enormous sentence with subordinate clauses, leaving no really good place to take a breath. There are far too many mandatory leaps off the high board (“. . . what so PROU-dly we hail . . .”).
The melody is lifted from an old English drinking song. The lyrics are all about bombs and war and bloodshed — and not in a good way. By the penultimate verse, the song has turned really nasty: “No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave.” In the first verse — the one we generally sing — there is only one reference to any value commonly associated with America: “land of the free.” By contrast, “home of the brave” is empty bravado. There is nothing in the American myth (let alone reality) to suggest that we are braver than anyone else.
Yeah, nothing at all. I guess saving Europe from itself without a thought of territorial conquest for ourselves — twice — doesn’t count. Otherwise, though, Kinsley’s got a point, albeit perhaps not a completely persuasive one. The current anthem is so unsingable that we have a succession of celebrities botching it at public events. If I looked, it would probably make a substantial subgenre on YouTube. And since Key’s epic poem, we have written more paeans to the American experience that may or may not suit us better for a national anthem.
Kinsley makes the following suggestions:
- Battle Hymn of the Republic — While this completely American song is a transcendent piece of music, it is just as martial as The Star Spangled Banner (not that there’s anything wrong with that) and comes from the Civil War. Picking that may seem a little bit like triumphalism. Besides, the explicitly Christian references would make it difficult, if not impossible, to pass through Congress.
- My Country ‘Tis of Thee — Besides stealing “God Save The Queen” from the British, it’s a childlike and annoying song, not a lush, inspiring marriage of poetry and music, as is Battle Hymn of the Republic. It will always remind me of the South Park episode, “The Brown Noise”:
- This Land is Your Land – Kinsley points out that Woody Guthrie was a Communist sympathizer, but the song itself is innocent enough. It’s probably a bit too simple and folkish for the kind of inspiration that a national anthem should provide.
- God Bless America — This song used to be considered rather lowbrow, and Kinsley reports that it annoyed Guthrie enough to write “This Land”, which I hadn’t heard before. It’s become a central song for American patriotism, so much so that immediately after the 9/11 attacks, Congress gathered on the steps of the Supreme Court building and sang this song rather than the Star Spangled Banner. It’s easier to sing, the words are easily remembered, and one can even exclaim “Play ball!” at the climax.
- America the Beautiful – Inspiring in a different, almost hymnal way, and again easier to sing than the current anthem. This sometimes gets played in place of the Star Spangled Banner at sporting events.
- Stars and Stripes Forever – This is my suggestion. John Philips Souza wrote this specifically to honor the US. Souza didn’t have the good sense to not write lyrics for it, but thankfully they’re mostly forgotten. Others have added them (“Three cheers for the red, white and blue,” “That duck maybe somebody’s muhhhhh-ther”), and hopefully we could forget those too. It’s already the National March — and without lyrics, we can look forward to the elimination of embarrassing celebrity Karaoke at public events.
Actually, I’d prefer just leaving the current anthem in place, but I’m a traditionalist. What do you think? Cast your vote in the poll:
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I don’t buy either point you’ve specified.
First, it’s not two octaves. It’s an octave and a fifth. Usually from A flat to E flat. The people who struggle with that would also struggle with “Happy Birthday” which has an octave leap.
Second the song is bigger than its creation. It now has historical significance and a strong association to our national events, our history, and our identity.
I fully understand its tune comes from a drinking song, written by a derelict drunk getting lost on the way home from a pub and stumbling into British hands as they crept up on Baltimore. We like to think the War of 1812 was a draw, the fact was it was a disaster for us. Our capitol was burned to the ground. But some actions are larger than the events on the ground, so no matter how accidental this moment of Francis Scott Key was it is now our moment. It is our symbol. And to remove that symbol is to strip away the connective tissue between the fabric of our past – our forefathers – and our future.
pt on June 12, 2009 at 5:28 PM
Right now it would have to be America, F*** Yeah (Bummer Re-mix).
capitalist piglet on June 12, 2009 at 5:29 PM
Yes the Star Spangled Banner is a difficult song. That’s why it is so tremendously beautiful when sung properly. Battle Hymn is out because we’d have another civil war. The others just don’t meet the mark.
chicagojedi on June 12, 2009 at 5:30 PM
I vote to let it be, although if America the Beautiful had been first, that would be OK. Since it wasn’t, I go for the traditional too.
But Battle Hymn of the Republic? Hey, I like it, but uh, has he even read the words? The anti-Christian element would foam at the mouth.
IrishEyes on June 12, 2009 at 5:32 PM
This land is my land
and only my land
I’ve got a shot gun
and you ‘aint got one
if you dont get off
I’ll blow your head off
This land was made for only me!
heatherrc77 on June 12, 2009 at 5:33 PM
If you want something contemporary, why not “God Bless the U.S.A.”?
I vote to keep the original. I don’t think this country needs the big makeover liberals are trying to force on it.
capitalist piglet on June 12, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Dumb poll. Should have left keeping the SSB off of it, since clearly that’s what would win. More interested in what people think the nat’l anthem should be IF it were to be changed.
DaveO on June 12, 2009 at 5:37 PM
Dixie.
Labamigo on June 12, 2009 at 5:38 PM
This land is OUR land, the world knows first hand
I’m the Obamination for a deranged nation
Thanks to our PC, and all yee see in me
This land’s no more, world ye thank ME!
Schadenfreude on June 12, 2009 at 5:38 PM
That’s the best laugh I’ve had in a month or longer.
Thanks for that.
Skandia Recluse on June 12, 2009 at 5:39 PM
Should we replace the national anthem?
Not only “No!”, but “Hell NO!”
atheling on June 12, 2009 at 5:40 PM
You started it! ; )
capitalist piglet on June 12, 2009 at 5:47 PM
There are times when the Star Spangled Banner reduces me to tears.
It’s a good thing.
Yakko77 on June 12, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Patriots…I think you need to check out the Public Plan Deception Thread….the troll SG has gone off the rails and I am so mad right now, I can barely type. I never so wanted to reach thru a computer screen and throttle the stupid out of someone so badly.
HornetSting on June 12, 2009 at 5:52 PM
Freakin’ A
CynicalOptimist on June 12, 2009 at 5:54 PM
Gets my vote.
misterpeasea on June 12, 2009 at 5:54 PM
DIXIE and be done with it.
Col.John Wm. Reed on June 12, 2009 at 5:56 PM
The Imperial March seems appropriate these days.
TheQuestion on June 12, 2009 at 5:58 PM
Tell that to the Marines that fought in the South Pacific, or the Soldiers that stormed the beaches at Normandy. Tell it to the men at the Chosin Reservoir, who fought like lions, despite being outnumbered 5 to 1. Tell it to Washington’s frozen Continental army. Tell it to the soldiers of the Civil War who fought for their beliefs, in spite of some of the worst carnage ever seen on a battlefield. Tell it to all the men and women, who have traveled far from home to shield or liberate a foreign country from the threat of communism or fascism in all its myriad forms. Sure, there have been others that have exhibited bravery and been fine soldiers. But the citizen soldiers of the United States rightly have a long proud tradition of being amongst the bravest and finest soldiers in the world. Change the anthem? No and Hell No.
coyoterex on June 12, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Not just “no”…
Not just “hell no”…
But “Godd–m it to hell, no f–king way!”
Even though I’ve watched every piece of our nation be trashed from the faith of our forefathers forward, reading this STILL managed to shock me, as jaded as I am. Yeah our anthem is ‘bloody’ – so were the two wars we had to fight to kick the king of England and his red-shirted jackboots off the continent. And so what if the tune is ‘lifted’ from a drinking song? So were several great hymns!
May the ghosts of every fallen American soldier haunt this spineless village idiot.
Dark-Star on June 12, 2009 at 5:59 PM
The UK sucks now, too; maybe theirs can be Drool Britania.
alliebobbitt on June 12, 2009 at 5:08 PM
Maybe you suck and America and Great Britain are still great nations. I try not to make personal attacks here but I am sick of people thinking a country is crap or genius depending on who won an election. America is still a great country even though we changed leaders and it was great even when making huge mistakes during its history. Britian will still be a great nation when the electorate changes its leaders or if they choose to keep going with Mr. Inspirational. I served my country and its President gladly even though I thought he was a dickhead. I’ve strenuously disagreed with policies of one President or another but America has never ’sucked’ to me.
lexhamfox on June 12, 2009 at 6:06 PM
Ive heard this ever since Meathead said “What a stupid song” to Archie Bunker.
Read the lyrics. The flag is a metaphore. The song is saying that you can hit us with everything you have but in the morning, we will still be standing.
“America the Beautiful” says a lot about the mountains, rivers, lakes, trees. Nothing about the American spirit.
kurtzz3 on June 12, 2009 at 6:10 PM
More like –
Perhaps Kinsley’s having a case of the Mondays…
pt on June 12, 2009 at 6:12 PM
Does ACORN have an anthem?
BacaDog on June 12, 2009 at 6:20 PM
The way things are going, perhaps we should learn these lyrics…
“Arise ye workers from your slumbers
Arise ye prisoners of want
For reason in revolt now thunders
And at last ends the age of cant.
Away with all your superstitions
Servile masses arise, arise
We’ll change henceforth the old tradition
And spurn the dust to win the prize.
So comrades, come rally
And the last fight let us face
The Internationale unites the human race.
So comrades, come rally
And the last fight let us face
The Internationale unites the human race.”
Now, the new idea is to change our National Anthem because it is difficult to sing? Lots of things that are difficult are too good to discard.
It was difficult to build this Nation.
More difficult to maintain it.
And I’ve buried too many friends over the years in difficult conditions with the wonderful tones of the Star Spangled Banner wafting over the attending mourners uniting us in ways unfathomable to let it simply be banished because some people would rather sing something less difficult at the ballpark before popping open a beer…
Keep the one we got…it’s cost too much to give away.
coldwarrior on June 12, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Obama wants to use John Lennon’s “Imagine”:
Imagine there’s no Heaven
It’s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say that I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You may say that I’m a dreamer
But I’m not the only one
I hope someday you’ll join us
And the world will live as one
stonemeister on June 12, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Absolutely do not replace the National Anthem! It is beautiful and moving, and the words are appropriate for a Country whose citizens fought for their freedom. Most people don’t sing it anyway, so why does it matter how singable it is? When I go to events where it is played, maybe one tenth of the people there are singing, and those of us that do, get looks like we are crazy or something. Leave it alone, bad idea to even bring it up.
Susanboo on June 12, 2009 at 6:28 PM
I get choked up when I sing or hear the Star Spangled Banner; but from a standpoint of both singability and lyrics, I would prefer America the Beautiful. I’m not offended by the belligerence of SSB; but I think the National Anthem should be a love song, and America the Beautiful is just that. I especially love the third verse:
I understand the tradition argument, I really do. But as moved as I am by the Star Spangled Banner, these words move me far more.
RegularJoe on June 12, 2009 at 6:28 PM
To me the definitive reason to keep The Star Spangled Banner is this: that unique among the anthems of the nations of the world, it begins and ends with a question. That question is echoed in Lincoln’s towering Address at Gettysburg: can any such nation long endure? We must answer that question day to day, generation unto generation. God save us from the hubris, so prevalent today, that says that we are never in danger, that we can survive any of our own follies mixed in any way with the envy and hatred of the world’s tyrants.
And God Save The Star Spangled Banner.
njcommuter on June 12, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Yes, it is a hard song to sing, but it sounds so great when a singer has the range, (except if it’s Adam Lambert, he just screams)
ConservadorRebelde on June 12, 2009 at 6:30 PM
Ya know what’s weird? On the way in to work this morning I was thinking to myself: “I bet the libs will try to get rid of the National Anthem….”
I’m freakin’ just a little bit here.
jdpaz on June 12, 2009 at 6:32 PM
I actually LIKE that the song is graphic. We must ALWAYS remember & commemorate the bloody price paid for what we are trying so hard to give away in Washington. Not to mention write out of the history books.
Hubby is listening to GAC with me – Hank Jr is singing “Red, White & Pink Slip Blues” AWESOME!
Minorcan Maven on June 12, 2009 at 6:33 PM
Wow… that choked me up a bit. I have never looked at the anthem in that way, but I will now forever more.
ConservadorRebelde on June 12, 2009 at 6:34 PM
I hope you’re still monitoring this thread. America the Beautiful has four verses, only one of which is about the geography of the country (which is important — the natural beauty and diversity of our country is something to cherish). Check out the full song:
I have no quarrel with anyone who opposes changing it; but I wanted your opinion to be an informed one.
And yeah, this has kind of been on my mind for a long, long time. It offends me to hear people butcher my National Anthem. Making it easier to sing — while (to me) also having better lyrics — would be a change for the better.
RegularJoe on June 12, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Those are some interesting suggestions, Ed, or at least would have been five years ago before we elected a transformative, post-racial president. Now it makes sense to break from our past. Instead of a boring old standby to replace the anthem we need something appropriate for the times, such as Crazy Train or Vaseline.
FloatingRock on June 12, 2009 at 6:41 PM
Wait, the person in the SP clip is supposed to be female?
Count to 10 on June 12, 2009 at 6:41 PM
When I was younger, I thought Imagine was such a pretty song.
It got a lot uglier when I realized it was an ode to Communism.
Count to 10 on June 12, 2009 at 6:45 PM
I don’t think I can ever listen to “This land is you land” again with out it reminding me of this:
http://sendables.jibjab.com/originals/this_land
(marginally nsfw)
Count to 10 on June 12, 2009 at 6:50 PM
Quoting one of the articles linked at the top of the site: “Not only no, but HELL NO.”
powerpro on June 12, 2009 at 6:50 PM
HornetSting, she’s gone – see Ramirez thread
Schadenfreude on June 12, 2009 at 6:52 PM
David Letterman is the leader of the Democratic Party
.
Pass it on!
Americannodash on June 12, 2009 at 6:55 PM
Awesome! I knew she would last. She was vile.
FloatingRock on June 12, 2009 at 6:56 PM
…I meant, wouldn’t last.
FloatingRock on June 12, 2009 at 6:57 PM
We can scrap the national Anthem for two songs:
A: Dixie
B:…………FREEBIRD. I’ve always advocated for this one.
If I leave here tomorrow
Would you still remember me?
For I must be travelling on, now,
‘Cause there’s too many places I’ve got to see.
But, if I stayed here with you, girl,
Things just couldn’t be the same.
‘Cause I’m as free as a bird now,
And this bird you can not change.
Lord knows, I can’t change.
Bye, bye, its been a sweet love.
Though this feeling I can’t change.
But please don’t take it badly,
‘Cause Lord knows I’m to blame.
But, if I stayed here with you girl,
Things just couldn’t be the same.
Cause I’m as free as a bird now,
And this bird you’ll never change.
And this bird you can not change.
Lord knows, I can’t change.
Lord help me, I can’t change.
It mentions god, being free as a bird, and not supporting hopechange (and this bird you cannot change).
eski502 on June 12, 2009 at 6:58 PM
Stick with the Star Spangled Banner. “God Bless America” is just gawd awful. I change the channel whenever they show during the 7th inning stretch.
holygoat on June 12, 2009 at 7:16 PM
Creepiest. Song. Ever.
You’re right, it is about the American spirit. I’m a traditionalist and would like to stick with the S.S.B, but school children should be forced to sing America the Beautiful every morning just to drive the Left crazy. Beyond the religious references) they despise the Pilgrims, and to them a “patriot dream” is a nightmare.
Buy Danish on June 12, 2009 at 7:17 PM
I don’t care much for it either, but I’m not sure that isn’t just a hangover from my younger, more intolerant days, about they way the song viciously lingers of the the “God bless” part. The Battle Hymn is awesome, but has too many campfire parodies.
Count to 10 on June 12, 2009 at 7:19 PM
Over hill, over dale,
We have hit the dusty trail,
And those Caissons Go Rolling Along
Counter march! Right about!
Hear those wagon soldiers shout
While those Caissons Go Rolling Along
To the front, day and night
Where the doughboys dig and fight
And those Caissons Go Rolling Along
Our barrage will be there
Fired on the rocket’s flare
While those Caissons Go Rolling Along
With the cavalry, boot to boot
We will join in the pursuit
And those Caissons Go Rolling Along
Action front, at a trot
Volley fire with shell and shot
While those Caissons Go Rolling Along
Should the foe penetrate
Ev’ry gunner lies in wait
And those Caissons Go Rolling Along
Fire at will, lay ‘em low
Never stop for any foe
While those Caissons Go Rolling Along
But if fate me should call
And in action I should fall
Keep those Caissons a rolling Along
Then in peace I’ll abide
When I take my final ride
On a Caisson that’s Rolling Along
For it’s “Hi! Hi! Hee!
In the Field Artillery
Call off your numbers loud and strong
And where e’er we go
You will always know
That those Caissons Are Rolling Along
MB4 on June 12, 2009 at 7:20 PM
Are you my daddy?
:) Seriously, the love song thing is exactly what he said many years ago, and he too said that for that reason, America the Beautiful should be the national anthem.
I love The Star Spangled Banner and can’t imagine not having it as the national anthem, but I would not fight it if it was changed to America the Beautiful. Of course, look at those lyrics again. The ACLU would go nuclear. Hmm…maybe that’s all the more reason to go for it.
pannw on June 12, 2009 at 7:25 PM
Over hill, over dale,
We must stop Herr Obama from swinging America by the tail,
And those Caissons Go Rolling Along
Counter march! Right about!
Hear those tea baggers shout
While those Caissons Go Rolling Along
To the front, day and night
Where the constitutionalists against Herr Obama dig and fight
And those Caissons Go Rolling Along
Our barrage will be there
Fired on the rocket’s flare
While those Caissons Go Rolling Along
With the liberty loving blogs, boot to boot
We will join in Herr Obama’s pursuit
And those Caissons Go Rolling Along
Action front, at a trot
Volley fire with shell and shot
While those Caissons Go Rolling Along
Should the foe penetrate
Ev’ry conservative gunner for Herr Obama lies in wait
And those Caissons Go Rolling Along
Fire at will, lay ‘em low
Never stop for any foe
While those Caissons Go Rolling Along
But if fate me should call
And in action against Herr Obama I should fall
Keep those Caissons a rolling Along
Then in peace I’ll abide
When I take my final ride
On a Caisson that’s Rolling Along
For it’s “Hi! Hi! Hee!
In the Impeach Obama Artillery
Call off your numbers loud and strong
And where e’er we go
You will always know
That those Caissons Are Rolling Along
MB4 on June 12, 2009 at 7:33 PM
I think anything from the 50 cent catalog would work. Ski Mask Way, perhaps. Lyrics:
http://www.lyricstime.com/50-cent-ski-mask-way-lyrics.html
Note that cig should be Sig, as in Sig Sauer, the maker of fine German/Swiss crafted handguns available in calibers popularized in rap music.
Play that at the Olympics and watch 100,000+ people dive for cover!
manfriend on June 12, 2009 at 7:37 PM
How about a little ditty entitled “If You Piss Us Off We’ll Stomp a Mudhole in Your Ass”.
But seriously, I like that our anthem references war. It serves as a reminder of sacrifices made, although most people don’t pay attention to the lyrics.
Artifact67 on June 12, 2009 at 7:38 PM
The night is cool
The wind is high
I look for a wave of light
To break through the sky
I watch for the light
And wonder if
A fair wind will ever sweep
Me home again
I would be warm
If I were back there
In golden fields
And easy air
I close my eyes
And now and then
My weary heart
Looks for my unchained home again
We will hold on
We will get through
We will not stand idle
While Obama destroys the Red, White and Blue
I don’t know how
I don’t know when
But we will see
Our home restored again
Hold on til then
Oh, wait for me!
We will set America free
And see our home restored again
PercyB on June 12, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Thank you, Scarlet Pimpernel.
Loxodonta on June 12, 2009 at 7:55 PM
If It happens, ummm God Bless America hands down. It’s that high note at the end. Battle Hymn of the Republic close second.
THE CHOSEN ONE on June 12, 2009 at 7:56 PM
I nominate “Separate Ways” by Journey. Steve Perry version.
Hat tip Club Trillion blog.
alohapundit on June 12, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Incidentally, there’s something wrong with people who don’t appreciate the beauty of singing your national anthem to the tune of a beer hall drinking song.
Why have one of those anthems that sound like funeral dirges?
Bombs bursting in air. Proof through the night that our flag was still there. Damn, that’s awesome.
J.E. Dyer on June 12, 2009 at 7:59 PM
+1
The Anthem is fine by me.As a side note experiance the anthem at a NASCAR event when the flyover occurs with 120,000 of your closest friends and then tell my you want to change the anthem.
raceroh on June 12, 2009 at 8:03 PM
Oh, and one more thing. It really is necessary to stay ahead of France in the “healthily uncompromising national anthem” department.
You know what the French sing, right?
Aux armes, citoyens!
- To arms, citizens!
Formez vos bataillons!
- Form up in battalions!
Marchons! Marchons!
- Let’s march! Let’s march!
Qu’un sang impur abreuve nos sillons!
- May the filthy blood (i.e., of tyrants) soak our fields!
They’re not warbling about rocks and rills, over there in gay Paree. Nor should we be.
J.E. Dyer on June 12, 2009 at 8:06 PM
One of the most unique aspects about our anthem is that it is a question. Unlike practically all other national anthems, the SSB is not just flowery pontificating or overt patriotism. Instead, it actually asks the listener a question, making him an active participant of the subject. It doesn’t bark national superiority down the listener’s throat. Instead, it brings him back to a moment in time when we almost lost all we had fought for to earn our independence.
Read the first verse alone (which is the one typically sung). At first glance it does not reflect the humble pride of our people, nor does it telegraph an arrogant bravado that so many in the world see us as being burdened with.
Its lyrics – if read alone – are questioning, wondering and hoping. The state of the author is one where he is grasping at hope, and any glimmer of the stars & stripes which would indicate that the country’s heart is still beating.
This questioning verse spells out the fragility of democracy and freedom that is embodied by this country and this anthem; and for this reason it is completely unique. Musical performances aside, there is no boisterous blowhard behind those words, bellowing the superiority of the U.S. of A.
Instead, there is a human being not immune to doubt and fear; acknowledging the existence of tyranny at the gates, and asking his fellow man to look with him in the same direction towards Fort McHenry, because he doesn’t quite trust his vision in the grey twilight of dawn, and he knows that if he sees the Union Jack flying instead of the Stars & Stripes, the Revolution would have been all for nothing.
This anthem’s purpose is to remind us to be vigilant, to have faith in the ideals we’ve chosen, and to remember how close we have come (more than once) to losing our freedom. This is where the strength of the anthem comes from. From a fragile human heart, ever vigilant, faithful and an unwillingness to give up hope in the fight against tyranny.
trace_9r on June 12, 2009 at 8:11 PM
The story of the Star Spangled Banner (yes, it’s Wikipedia, but it’s true) should be enough to say, “Absolutely not.” The fragility of our great experiment makes the words all the more poignant today.
DrMagnolias on June 12, 2009 at 8:13 PM
These days I’m leaning toward “We’re not gonna take it” by Twisted Sister.
we’ve Got The Right To Choose And
there Ain’t No Way We’ll Lose It
this Is Our Life, This Is Our Song
we’ll Fight The Powers That Be Just
don’t Pick Our Destiny ’cause
you Don’t Know Us, You Don’t Belong
oh We’re Not Gonna Take It
no, We Ain’t Gonna Take It
oh We’re Not Gonna Take It Anymore
sulla on June 12, 2009 at 8:15 PM
But on a serious note: no, keep the SSB.
Although it can be sung dreadfully by individuals, on average a crowd will sing it decently. And we celebrate those who do it particularly well, and mock those who don’t take the task seriously.
Just like…America itself. Free to try, free to fail, free to kick a** and take names. And there are any number of ways to sing it well, from the jazzy Huey Lewis a capella to the torch song Whitney Houston version to the full choir and marching band. Or the Jimi Hendrix flag-on-acid Woodstock breakfast guitar solo. And when it goes bad, it reveals the character of the performer (Roseanne).
What a democratic (small d) anthem! You bring what you are, and you make of it what you will.
sulla on June 12, 2009 at 8:22 PM
As familiarity breeds, if not contempt, at least indifference, I prefer to keep “America the Beautiful” reserved for special occassions. As I age, I just can’t keep from tearing up when I hear it. The “Star Spangled Banner” is a wonderful anthem; most are able to sing it despite its range. And yes, the beer-all tune is just fine; typical of how this country works – take the ordinary and plebian and make it into something grand.
JackOkie on June 12, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Obligitory Obama/Soviet Union Anthem by Glenn Beck
Obama National Anthem
tjexcite on June 12, 2009 at 8:38 PM
Obligatory
tjexcite on June 12, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot, it was the French who volutarily committed their troops to the 1st World War after the sinking of a supply ship not belonging to their country.
And I forgot it was the Germans who led the effort against expansionist North Korea and the Chinese.
And of course we all know that it was Canada who rallied the the world to liberate Kuwait from a vile dictator, and 10 years later to chase that dictator out of power and liberate another nation.
Sure, Great Britain with the blood of it’s patriots leads the world and spreading freedom and justice for all human beings.
You are right, Americans are no braver than anyone else.
paulsur on June 12, 2009 at 8:41 PM
Yeah so that puts us up with the Russians in the badass category. They sacked our capital and we still held out. Man to man, ship to ship the US Navy was BETTER than the Royal Navy. While their weight of numbers shoved us off the North Atlantic, we still managed to drive the Royal Navy off all five of the Great Lakes. They had NOTHING bigger than a raft flying the White Ensign. The Indian tribes who raised Hell from Ohio to Louisiana? Quashed. I think the “disaster” was all British, who had to admit they couldn’t fight an American warship with less than 3:1 odds; lost “moral authority” with the Native Americans of the interior; had to admit to Canada that the colony was self-reliant for defense by 1815; wasted three armies of European regiments trying to beat amateurs into submission; and became known as an army of rapists, arsonists, and lying murderers of wounded prisoners, worse than the heathen savages they fought alongside. “You are unfit to lead men!” Tecumseh reportedly raged at his British allies. “Go and put on petticoats!”
So yeah, I like the Star-Spangled Banner a whole lot.
Chris_Balsz on June 12, 2009 at 8:54 PM
oh and
The British foe was made up of jailbirds given early release for military service, “pressed” Englishmen literally kidnapped off the street to serve for the duration or until death, and mercenaries. It was this sorry lot that either dropped death or ran away from the failure at Baltimore–they didn’t take the fort from us.
But if Kinsley started to admit that there was anything like objective truth in history, his whole worldview would unravel like a sock.
Chris_Balsz on June 12, 2009 at 9:00 PM
Late to the thread again; I just voted to keep the original.
Reminder: there are 4 beautiful verses;
Oh, say can you see by the dawn’s early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars thru the perilous fight,
O’er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket’s red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?
On the shore, dimly seen through the mists of the deep,
Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:
‘Tis the star-spangled banner! Oh long may it wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more!
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps’ pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war’s desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav’n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: “In God is our trust.”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
What’s better than this?
massrighty on June 12, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Thank you, sir!
massrighty on June 12, 2009 at 9:14 PM
I picked America the Beautiful, but really any of those traditional songs would be better than the SSB. (I am not counting Neil Diamond’s America or This Land Is Your Land, as they are both too trite and lacking in spiritual substance. Same goes for Lee Greenwood’s God Bless the USA, and whatever that song is that Sean Hannity plays.)
My main beef with the SSB is that it is all about the flag, not really about the country. The 4th verses is kind of magnificent, but how many Americans know the 4th verse — or even that there is a 4th verse? And the over-all metaphor of waking up after a night of disaster and discovering that our country is still there isn’t really a big part of the American experience, is it? Unless you count waking up to Ronald Reagan after the long drought of the 60s and 70s, but even that seems kind of atypical.
And if you are going to go for the struggling-through-the-long-dark-night theme, Lift Every Voice and Sing is more meaningful to a large nuber of Americans, though not as well written. Not that there is any way in hell Obama is going to touch that one.
JackOfClubs on June 12, 2009 at 9:26 PM
THAT TIME IS GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER
“BEWARE OF AN ANGRY AMERICA”
rone5847 on June 12, 2009 at 9:50 PM
Michael Kinsley idea is just further progression of our current trend in mediocrity. Can’t pass the physical performance test to be a firefighter, don’t worry, we will lower the standards. Haven’t learned to read above a 2nd grade level, don’t worry, you can still graduate from high school. I don’t have the vocal range to sing our National Anthem, what to do? Oh, I know, change it to a easier tune.
I personally don’t want to hear just anybody sing the National Anthem, but for those who can, will bring tears to my eyes.
PrettyD_Vicious on June 12, 2009 at 9:53 PM
The flag is a symbol of our country. It has meaning. It represents all those that have died for our freedoms. It represents the living and the combined strength of our country and its 50 states. On battlefields, the flag lets all those fighting know who they are fighting for and why. Ask any WWII Marine or the sailors out on the ships that fought at Iwo Jima the inspiration they received when the flag was raised on Mt. Suribachi.
Yes, by today’s standard the flag is just a piece of cloth with a nice pattern and stars on it, only because our schools do not teach the meanings of what the flag represents anymore.
PrettyD_Vicious on June 12, 2009 at 10:05 PM
This Land is your land … is a idiotic socialist brainwashing song. Just like Signs,Signs
And the sign said anybody caught trespassing would be shot on sight
So I jumped on the fence and yelled at the house, Hey! what gives you the right
To put up a fence to keep me out or to keep mother nature in
If God was here, he’d tell you to your face, man you’re some kinda sinner
anti-private property / property ownership tripe
burnitup on June 12, 2009 at 11:21 PM
ed , if fence sitting were an occupation, you’d be a millionaire.
peacenprosperity on June 12, 2009 at 11:41 PM
Obamica, Obamica,
Please shed thy grace on me.
and crown thyself with gold & gems,
for all the world to see.
Obamica, Obamica,
You are as God to me.
You’ll give us all, for which we call,
and ‘free’ it shall ever be.
Obamica, Obamica
Make the rich pay all the fee.
And let the Muslim Brotherhood
push Israel into the sea.
(Needs some work, but if he isn’t restrained soon, something like that will soon be our offical anthem.)
LegendHasIt on June 12, 2009 at 11:52 PM
Michael Kinsley – I almost forgot he was still around. Didn’t need to be reminded that he still is, either.
The theme to Barney the Purple Dinosaur is just about the right speed for that bed-wetting little p***y.
Gator Country on June 12, 2009 at 11:55 PM
“I Won’t Back Down” by Tom Petty, though we might want to wait till 2012 before we change it.
ajackson on June 13, 2009 at 12:05 AM
I haven’t read most of this thread so apologies to anybody that may have mentioned this: If the anthem is so difficult to sing that enough singers are unavailable to meet the needs at events, an alternative version with a narrower vocal range could easily be achieved by transposing the extreme high/low ends of the rang down/up an octave. It would still be the same song, everybody would recognize it, but it wouldn’t require a virtuoso to sing it.
I would rather hear somebody sing the alternate version well than have them mangle the original.
FloatingRock on June 13, 2009 at 12:10 AM
It is ironic that one of the most peace-loving countries in the world has a national anthem born in war. I can understand those who would like to change the national anthem to “America, the Beautiful.” It’s a great song, in many ways. Most other countries have national anthems that focus on what a wonderful and beautiful nation they have.
In spite of all that, I say we keep our national anthem. No matter how much we love peace, it was winning that particular war that enabled us to continue as a nation.
But I abominate the Battle Hymn of the Republic. It treats the Union Army as if it were the Hand of God, and that’s a dangerous attitude for any nation to have. I’m a Christian and a patriot, but we should never confuse God with government.
God Bless America, or My Country Tis of Thee, on the other hand, sticks to asking God to bless us as a nation, without confusing national goals for God’s will.
ThereGoesTheNeighborhood on June 13, 2009 at 12:19 AM
The high notes are the most stirring aspects of the anthem, it seems to me, so lifting the low end up an octave and leaving the highs alone would make sense.
FloatingRock on June 13, 2009 at 12:29 AM
I love most of the songs listed, especially “God Bless the USA” but we should keep the “Star Spangled Banner”.
I’ve never had a hard time singing it, as long as it doesn’t start too high and my daughter, a soprano, sings it beautifully.
What really bugs me is that we’ve made it a performance when it should be sung by everyone, no matter how bad. It was embarrassing during the NFL game in London when the entire stadium sang their anthem while some mediocre singer sang ours.
Common Sense on June 13, 2009 at 12:32 AM
None of the other rah-rah or even compelling songs that are mentioned in the article really address the uniqueness of the US. Even O, Beautiful (with some very fine lyrics), in praising the stern, impassioned tread of the Pilgrims, or asking America to confirm its soul in self-control/liberty in law could easily apply in hundreds of places.
Star-Spangled Banner is a portrait of the birth of the nation, and its uniqueness. Where most of the others see America as a constant, a done deal — SSB reminds us that it’s all vulnerable. It’s all worth fighting (and dying) for, and there will never be a time when that possibility disappears.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war’s desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav’n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: “In God is our trust.”
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
Even the other great ones laud what we have — our real heritage is how we came by it, and what we must do to preserve it.
Prufrock on June 13, 2009 at 12:47 AM
Amen. But this last verse is precisely why they would like to get rid of it. You know, the mention of God is against the separation of church and state…you know, the mention of God offends some (<5%).
Christian Conservative on June 13, 2009 at 12:57 AM
ATB, BHOTR, GBA: forget it. They all have that pesky word “God” prominently featured, which will have the liberals foaming at the mouth about theocracy and separation of Church and State.
At least TSSB only has it in the last verse.
TLIYL: definitely out for Kinsley’s reasons.
Stay with TSSB. It’d help a lot if it’s started low enough, in the key of B major or even lower.
JimC on June 13, 2009 at 1:16 AM
I think that the Apologizer in Chief should first beg the world for forgiveness for us forcing them to listen to our
incredibly arrogant anthem. Then by Messianic Decree proclaim
this to be our new less patronizing anthem:
Thanks for this gem Zippy_Slug.
P. Monk on June 13, 2009 at 3:00 AM
This is what happens when the left comes to power: adherents (Kinsley) come out of the woodwork advocating their far left agendas (a kinder, gentler anthem)… crazy times these.
WordsMatter on June 13, 2009 at 7:57 AM
With Obama in power I thought we adopted the Russian Anthem anyhow.
Jeff from WI on June 13, 2009 at 8:32 AM
There’s something about the lyrics to the Star-Spangled Banner that I think needs mention, at least the first verse that we all sing.
It’s a question. Does that banner still wave..?
When our founding fathers set up America’s system of government, it was a grand experiment, without a guaranteed outcome.
Lincoln at Gettysburg wondered aloud whether any nation so conceived could long endure.
When I hear, or (Lord help us) sing the national anthem, I think of it in those terms… How’s the experiment going? Still the ‘land of the free’, and all that?
Ralph64 on June 13, 2009 at 8:34 AM
If Dixie, this one.
.
Southrons, hear your country call you!
Up, lest worse than death befall you!
To arms ! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!
Lo! All the beacon-fires are lighted,
Let all hearts be now united!
To arms ! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!
.
Advance the flag of Dixie
Hurrah! Hurrah!
For Dixie’s land we take our stand,
And live or die for Dixie!
To Arms! To Arms!
And conquer peace for Dixie
To Arms! To Arms
And conquer peace for Dixie
.
Hear the Northern thunders mutter!
Northern flags in South winds flutter!
To arms ! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!
Send them back your fierce defiance!
Stamp upon the accursed alliance!
To arms ! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!
.
Advance the flag of Dixie
Hurrah! Hurrah!
For Dixie’s land we take our stand,
And live or die for Dixie!
To Arms! To Arms!
And conquer peace for Dixie
To Arms! To Arms
And conquer peace for Dixie
.
Fear no danger! Shun no labor!
Lift up rifle, pike and saber!
To arms ! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!
Shoulder pressing close to shoulder,
Let the odds make each heart bolder!
To arms ! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!
.
Advance the flag of Dixie
Hurrah! Hurrah!
For Dixie’s land we take our stand,
And live or die for Dixie!
To Arms! To Arms!
And conquer peace for Dixie
To Arms! To Arms
And conquer peace for Dixie
.
Swear upon our country’s altar
Never to submit or to falter,
To arms ! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!
Till the spoilers are defeated,
Till the Lord’s work is completed!
To arms ! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!
.
Advance the flag of Dixie
Hurrah! Hurrah!
For Dixie’s land we take our stand,
And live or die for Dixie!
To Arms! To Arms!
And conquer peace for Dixie
To Arms! To Arms
And conquer peace for Dixie
.
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Or perhapes Winterborn by Cruxshadows
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Dry your eyes and quietly bear this pain with pride
For heaven shall remember the silent and the brave
And promise me, they will never see, the fear within our eyes
.
We will give strength to those who still remain
.
So bury fear for fate draws near and hide the signs of pain
With noble acts, the bravest souls endure the heart’s remains
Discard regret, that in this debt a better world is made
That children of a newer day might remember, and avoid our fate.
.
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And in the fury of this darkest hour we will be your light
You’ve asked me for my sacrifice and I am Winter born
Without denying, a faith is come that I have never known
I hear the angels call my name and I am Winter born
.
Hold your head up high-for there is no greater love
Think of the faces of the people you defend
.
And promise me, they will never see the tears within our eyes
Although we are men with mortal sins, angels never cry
.
So bury fear for fate draws near and hide the signs of pain
With noble acts, the bravest souls endure the heart’s remains
Discard regret, that in this debt a better world is made
That children of a newer day might remember, and avoid our fate.
.
.
And in the fury of this darkest hour we will be your light
You’ve asked me for my sacrifice and I am Winter born
Without denying, a faith in God that I have never known
I hear the angels call my name and I am Winter born
.
And in the fury of this darkest hour
.
I will be your light
A lifetime for this destiny
For I am Winter born
And in this moment…
I will not run, it is my place to stand
We few shall carry hope
.
Within our bloodied hands
.
And in our Dying
We’re more alive-than we have ever been
I’ve lived for these few seconds
For I am Winter born
.
.
And in the fury of this darkest hour
We will be the light
You’ve asked me for my sacrifice
And I am Winter born
Without denying, a faith in man
That I have never known
.
I hear the angels call my name
And I am Winter born
.
Within this moment now
I am for you, though better men have failed
I will give my life for love
For I am Winter born
.
.
And in my dying I’m more alive, than I have ever been
I will make this sacrifice for I am Winter born
darktood on June 13, 2009 at 8:51 AM
May the ghosts of every fallen American soldier haunt this spineless village idiot.
Dark-Star
Thanks, Dark-Star. I was going to call Kinsley something more vulgar, but you nailed it.
SKYFOX on June 13, 2009 at 9:26 AM
has good points. I would not change it, but suspect the libs will and John Lennon’s Imagine or “Obama Bless America” will win. God Bless America is best song, but still would keep SSB.
Ed Laskie on June 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM
What a telling account of the wish to make everyone equal.
Let us descend into mediocrity in this, our nations song, as we have in so many other ways just so “everyone” has the ability. This idea is similar to giving everyone a college degree without merit so we all are equal and it has the same consequences – mediocrity.
The United States was not founded on mediocrity nor should we succumb to even these “little” things just because a small group can’t hit a high note or exercise breath control. As said in the lyrics, no matter the adversity of the moment, we persevere. Without such we may find ourselves no longer the land of the free and home of the brave.
dkeppner on June 13, 2009 at 10:23 AM
Leave it up to Obama and the DEMS and it’ll turn into some kind of crummy rap song about killin’ cops and degrading women.
Jeff from WI on June 13, 2009 at 10:26 AM
Not every single person sounds good singing the Star Spangled Banner. But a crowd singing it never sounds bad.
righteouschops on June 13, 2009 at 10:29 AM
Yes it is harder to sing but the result when sung properly is worth it. It sounds GREAT when sung by someone that knows the words and knows how to sing.
Really, do we want the land of the free to subordinate it’s anthem to the lowest common denominator? I think it says something about us that even our anthem is only as good at the person that sings it instead of descending into some gray “everything is ok/meaningless” that those suggestions seem to lead to.
In fairness, most of them are fine songs that I don’t have a problem with… But each has central problems that disqualify it for various reasons. If the worst thing about our anthem is that it’s hard to sing then that’s not so bad.
It’s a beautiful song. Leave it alone. Songs like this are symbols. Patriotism is a kind of belief system. Belief systems don’t take changes in symbolism well. There are lots of problems with changing this that should be considered. Really, you’d have to come up with something new that was better AND have a great reason to do it.
Karmashock on June 13, 2009 at 6:19 PM
“Who let the dogs in?” Whoo, whoo , whoo whoo!
The Secret Service does poop duty now.
Cybergeezer on June 13, 2009 at 8:25 PM
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