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	<title>Comments on: Oh my: Obama&#8217;s DOJ to defend Defense of Marriage Act in court</title>
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		<title>By: nondhimmie</title>
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		<dc:creator>nondhimmie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gay issue as it affects Socialized Medicine.

As the population will be taxed, or regulated for lifestyle options, as the gay lifestyle costs taxpayer money to treat their sexually transmitted diseases, will they be reined in or taxed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gay issue as it affects Socialized Medicine.</p>
<p>As the population will be taxed, or regulated for lifestyle options, as the gay lifestyle costs taxpayer money to treat their sexually transmitted diseases, will they be reined in or taxed?</p>
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		<title>By: nondhimmie</title>
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		<dc:creator>nondhimmie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gay issue as it affects Socialized Medicine.

As the population will be taxed, or regulated for lifestyle options, as the gay lifestyle costs taxpayer money to treat their sexually transmitted diseases, will they be reigned in or taxed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gay issue as it affects Socialized Medicine.</p>
<p>As the population will be taxed, or regulated for lifestyle options, as the gay lifestyle costs taxpayer money to treat their sexually transmitted diseases, will they be reigned in or taxed?</p>
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		<title>By: MSGTAS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MSGTAS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it is because he is not in favor of showing his actual disgust for the lifestyle.  However, &#039;coldwarrior&#039; and &#039;kahall&#039; have the answer hidden in their posts.

Kahall - he&#039;s working hard on it; or he&#039;s hard working on it?  Giving us a bit more insight into his pride and prejudice.

or 

Coldwarrior, hit it right on the head.  Taxing poles will be profitable but will not eliminate erotic performances unless he wants to tax your lap.  The only loopholes in a lap tax is to stand up or lay down at all times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it is because he is not in favor of showing his actual disgust for the lifestyle.  However, &#8216;coldwarrior&#8217; and &#8216;kahall&#8217; have the answer hidden in their posts.</p>
<p>Kahall &#8211; he&#8217;s working hard on it; or he&#8217;s hard working on it?  Giving us a bit more insight into his pride and prejudice.</p>
<p>or </p>
<p>Coldwarrior, hit it right on the head.  Taxing poles will be profitable but will not eliminate erotic performances unless he wants to tax your lap.  The only loopholes in a lap tax is to stand up or lay down at all times.</p>
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		<title>By: johnnyU</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnnyU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 13:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh heh. How do you gay folks out there like your hereo now? 

See how important your vote is folks? See how the world is right now? See how our country is right now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh heh. How do you gay folks out there like your hereo now? </p>
<p>See how important your vote is folks? See how the world is right now? See how our country is right now?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff from WI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff from WI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 12:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The National MCMC also demands rights to marry. Will these MCMC member also be denied their rights. How long must this go on.

MCMC: Midget/Chicken Marriage Coalition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The National MCMC also demands rights to marry. Will these MCMC member also be denied their rights. How long must this go on.</p>
<p>MCMC: Midget/Chicken Marriage Coalition.</p>
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		<title>By: loneloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>loneloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 05:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read Tom Suozzi&#039;s piece linked on the Hot Air home page, and the end game concerning religious officiants of marriage became clear to me as I was reading his disingenuous reassurances.  Simply put:  Priests, ministers, rabbis, etc., perform religious marriages, but simultaneously perform civil marriages, as attested to by the &quot;By the power vested in me by the State of . . .&quot; verbiage at the end, and by the statutes of the various states as to whom can perform a marriage.  This is already a modest breach of the wall of separation between church and state; it will not be difficult to make the case that since they are performing a quasi-governmental function, they are subject in the case of marriage to state and federal anti-discrimination laws (there is no federal anti-discrimination implication for homosexuality yet, but give them time; in the meantime, several states do implicate homosexuality in their own legislation).  Suozzi&#039;s disingenuousness lies in trying to preemptively dismiss this concern by talking about the &quot;strong protections&quot; provided by the legislation to religious celebrants of marriages . . . but any conservative paying attention has seen this play before:  The legislators are shocked -- shocked! -- as the courts overturn the &quot;strong protections&quot; on a civil-rights basis.  Before long, if a bride and groom in the Catholic, Pentecostal -- Muslim! -- faiths want to be married, they&#039;ll be heading from the altar straight to the courthouse for their civil ceremony, since no traditional clergyman will want to have power vested in them by the State under these circumstances.  As much as Doug Kmiec&#039;s rank hypocrisy on the Obama presidency makes me queasy -- and I&#039;m an agnostic! -- I&#039;ve long thought that absent a Constitutional amendment, the push to reduce the institution of marriage in the civil sphere from a privileged place to the realm of contract law would ultimately come in large part from the clergy itself, and the realization outlined above does nothing to convince me otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read Tom Suozzi&#8217;s piece linked on the Hot Air home page, and the end game concerning religious officiants of marriage became clear to me as I was reading his disingenuous reassurances.  Simply put:  Priests, ministers, rabbis, etc., perform religious marriages, but simultaneously perform civil marriages, as attested to by the &#8220;By the power vested in me by the State of . . .&#8221; verbiage at the end, and by the statutes of the various states as to whom can perform a marriage.  This is already a modest breach of the wall of separation between church and state; it will not be difficult to make the case that since they are performing a quasi-governmental function, they are subject in the case of marriage to state and federal anti-discrimination laws (there is no federal anti-discrimination implication for homosexuality yet, but give them time; in the meantime, several states do implicate homosexuality in their own legislation).  Suozzi&#8217;s disingenuousness lies in trying to preemptively dismiss this concern by talking about the &#8220;strong protections&#8221; provided by the legislation to religious celebrants of marriages . . . but any conservative paying attention has seen this play before:  The legislators are shocked &#8212; shocked! &#8212; as the courts overturn the &#8220;strong protections&#8221; on a civil-rights basis.  Before long, if a bride and groom in the Catholic, Pentecostal &#8212; Muslim! &#8212; faiths want to be married, they&#8217;ll be heading from the altar straight to the courthouse for their civil ceremony, since no traditional clergyman will want to have power vested in them by the State under these circumstances.  As much as Doug Kmiec&#8217;s rank hypocrisy on the Obama presidency makes me queasy &#8212; and I&#8217;m an agnostic! &#8212; I&#8217;ve long thought that absent a Constitutional amendment, the push to reduce the institution of marriage in the civil sphere from a privileged place to the realm of contract law would ultimately come in large part from the clergy itself, and the realization outlined above does nothing to convince me otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: loneloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>loneloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 04:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Unfortunately, as terrible as recognizing a ‘union’ of perverts is to our nation, trying to do an end-run around the Constitution is simply unacceptable. This issue is simply going to have to be decided by individual states.

Dark-Star on June 13, 2009 at 11:17 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As a 40-year-old, it is (or, at least, references to it are) within my memory that married couples would &quot;run to Vegas&quot; for divorces because Nevada was then the only state that provided &quot;no-fault&quot; divorces.  The state in which the marriage was performed had no recourse regarding the marriage no matter whether or not the divorce would have been attainable there, due to the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution.  In a similar vein, this issue cannot &quot;be decided by individual states&quot; &lt;em&gt;without&lt;/em&gt; some sort of &quot;end-run around the Constitution.&quot;  The only &quot;end-run&quot; that will allow this on an enduring basis would be a Constitutional amendment; I remember actually rolling my eyes during the general enthusiasm when DOMA passed, in anticipation of the moment when it ran afoul of the Constitution itself.  Those who care about this issue had best prepare for such a push, because nothing less will suffice, and the odds of getting an amendment are frankly quite low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Unfortunately, as terrible as recognizing a ‘union’ of perverts is to our nation, trying to do an end-run around the Constitution is simply unacceptable. This issue is simply going to have to be decided by individual states.</p>
<p>Dark-Star on June 13, 2009 at 11:17 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>As a 40-year-old, it is (or, at least, references to it are) within my memory that married couples would &#8220;run to Vegas&#8221; for divorces because Nevada was then the only state that provided &#8220;no-fault&#8221; divorces.  The state in which the marriage was performed had no recourse regarding the marriage no matter whether or not the divorce would have been attainable there, due to the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution.  In a similar vein, this issue cannot &#8220;be decided by individual states&#8221; <em>without</em> some sort of &#8220;end-run around the Constitution.&#8221;  The only &#8220;end-run&#8221; that will allow this on an enduring basis would be a Constitutional amendment; I remember actually rolling my eyes during the general enthusiasm when DOMA passed, in anticipation of the moment when it ran afoul of the Constitution itself.  Those who care about this issue had best prepare for such a push, because nothing less will suffice, and the odds of getting an amendment are frankly quite low.</p>
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		<title>By: Dark-Star</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dark-Star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 03:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, as terrible as recognizing a &#039;union&#039; of perverts is to our nation, trying to do an end-run around the Constitution is simply unacceptable. This issue is simply going to have to be decided by individual states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, as terrible as recognizing a &#8216;union&#8217; of perverts is to our nation, trying to do an end-run around the Constitution is simply unacceptable. This issue is simply going to have to be decided by individual states.</p>
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		<title>By: loneloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>loneloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Cindy Munford on June 13, 2009 at 11:38 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Granted.  However, the Administration&#039;s case will be the one most highly visible, and given that Justice Kennedy will most likely once more be the &quot;swing vote,&quot; placing him in a position where he will have to at least concur with an opinion placing homosexual relationships on the same level as incestuous or age-inappropriate relationships is a losing strategy (which in the Administration&#039;s view, I believe, makes it a winning strategy).  Unfortunately, absent a Constitutional amendment, the defenders of traditional marriage are destined to play the role of Sisyphus in the courts, due in small part to the Constitution itself (viz. the Full Faith and Credit clause), but mostly to the oversized role of the judiciary and the culture of that judiciary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Cindy Munford on June 13, 2009 at 11:38 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Granted.  However, the Administration&#8217;s case will be the one most highly visible, and given that Justice Kennedy will most likely once more be the &#8220;swing vote,&#8221; placing him in a position where he will have to at least concur with an opinion placing homosexual relationships on the same level as incestuous or age-inappropriate relationships is a losing strategy (which in the Administration&#8217;s view, I believe, makes it a winning strategy).  Unfortunately, absent a Constitutional amendment, the defenders of traditional marriage are destined to play the role of Sisyphus in the courts, due in small part to the Constitution itself (viz. the Full Faith and Credit clause), but mostly to the oversized role of the judiciary and the culture of that judiciary.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff from WI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff from WI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 17:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that one would mention Iowa as a place where a forced recognition of same sex marriage would cause a backlash. I fail to see how. In 2008 Iowa, like much of the upper mid west voted for Obama and in most cases, the other Democratic Party  candidates. So in effect, Iowa, like the other Democratic leaning blue states, picked a Democratic Party platform. Since the Democratic Party never saw a deviant act, actor, or comic they didn&#039;t support, then logically they would be &quot;progressive&quot; enough that when it comes to morals, anything goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that one would mention Iowa as a place where a forced recognition of same sex marriage would cause a backlash. I fail to see how. In 2008 Iowa, like much of the upper mid west voted for Obama and in most cases, the other Democratic Party  candidates. So in effect, Iowa, like the other Democratic leaning blue states, picked a Democratic Party platform. Since the Democratic Party never saw a deviant act, actor, or comic they didn&#8217;t support, then logically they would be &#8220;progressive&#8221; enough that when it comes to morals, anything goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Munford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Munford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 15:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;loneloc on June 13, 2009 at 10:42 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It might work but DOJ won&#039;t be the only one representing that side of the argument and not everyone will be trying to lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>loneloc on June 13, 2009 at 10:42 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>It might work but DOJ won&#8217;t be the only one representing that side of the argument and not everyone will be trying to lose.</p>
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		<title>By: loneloc</title>
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		<dc:creator>loneloc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I agree with those here who think that this is an elaborate game on Obama&#039;s part.  The Obama DOJ will take the case to the Supreme Court, not advocate terribly effectively, and will lose, at least 5-4 and possibly 7-2.  DOMA is basically indefensible under the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution, which may (or may not) turn Justices Roberts and Scalia.  It&#039;s possible that the cases mentioned by the DOJ are the best precedents available, but it&#039;s equally possible that they were chosen in order to put Justice Kennedy in the position of having to equate homosexuality with incest and underage marriage, which I can promise you that he won&#039;t do.  The same-sex marriage advocates won&#039;t complain too much as long as they win; to the extent that they do, Obama will simply deflect the criticism by claiming that he was bound by the Constitution to defend the law, and I think that we all know the level of media skepticism that this claim will undergo.  Besides which, the critics have three years in which to forget . . . This is basically the endgame, similar to the way that no-fault divorce played out in the late &#039;60&#039;s/early &#039;70&#039;s.  The only solution to the problem is, and always has been, a Constitutional amendment that creates an exception to the Full Faith and Credit clause in this instance, which in the current political climate is unlikely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I agree with those here who think that this is an elaborate game on Obama&#8217;s part.  The Obama DOJ will take the case to the Supreme Court, not advocate terribly effectively, and will lose, at least 5-4 and possibly 7-2.  DOMA is basically indefensible under the Full Faith and Credit clause of the Constitution, which may (or may not) turn Justices Roberts and Scalia.  It&#8217;s possible that the cases mentioned by the DOJ are the best precedents available, but it&#8217;s equally possible that they were chosen in order to put Justice Kennedy in the position of having to equate homosexuality with incest and underage marriage, which I can promise you that he won&#8217;t do.  The same-sex marriage advocates won&#8217;t complain too much as long as they win; to the extent that they do, Obama will simply deflect the criticism by claiming that he was bound by the Constitution to defend the law, and I think that we all know the level of media skepticism that this claim will undergo.  Besides which, the critics have three years in which to forget . . . This is basically the endgame, similar to the way that no-fault divorce played out in the late &#8217;60&#8242;s/early &#8217;70&#8242;s.  The only solution to the problem is, and always has been, a Constitutional amendment that creates an exception to the Full Faith and Credit clause in this instance, which in the current political climate is unlikely.</p>
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		<title>By: capejasmine</title>
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		<dc:creator>capejasmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The uncharitable view is that he’s worried that the backlash would cripple his reelection chances, no matter how much it might please his gay constituents, and therefore he’s better off defending DOMA.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think there are bigger, and much more expensive issues, that will tank his bid for re-election, than this. All he does is campaign, and pander. It&#039;s getting old, and pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The uncharitable view is that he’s worried that the backlash would cripple his reelection chances, no matter how much it might please his gay constituents, and therefore he’s better off defending DOMA.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think there are bigger, and much more expensive issues, that will tank his bid for re-election, than this. All he does is campaign, and pander. It&#8217;s getting old, and pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: kelley in virginia</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelley in virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t these DOJ lawyers take an oath when hired to defend the constitution.  surely, eric holder took that oath.

whatever you think of DOMA, it  is their duty to defend it.  period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t these DOJ lawyers take an oath when hired to defend the constitution.  surely, eric holder took that oath.</p>
<p>whatever you think of DOMA, it  is their duty to defend it.  period.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Munford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Munford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;myrenovations on June 13, 2009 at 8:31 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This has to be based on polling and voting blocks.  If what former mayor of D.C., Mr. Barry(?) said was correct and you consider the Prop 8 vote in California, it would appear that a large number of the Black and Hispanic population are not ready to embrace what the Gays consider their right. Those are not voters he can walk away from given the relatively small percentage of Gay voters and their supporters.  Guess who&#039;s under the bus.  I am sure he is hoping for a change of heart over the next three and half years that he will be glad to embrace, telling the Gays he was &lt;em&gt;with them&lt;/em&gt; every step of the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>myrenovations on June 13, 2009 at 8:31 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>This has to be based on polling and voting blocks.  If what former mayor of D.C., Mr. Barry(?) said was correct and you consider the Prop 8 vote in California, it would appear that a large number of the Black and Hispanic population are not ready to embrace what the Gays consider their right. Those are not voters he can walk away from given the relatively small percentage of Gay voters and their supporters.  Guess who&#8217;s under the bus.  I am sure he is hoping for a change of heart over the next three and half years that he will be glad to embrace, telling the Gays he was <em>with them</em> every step of the way.</p>
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		<title>By: angryed</title>
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		<dc:creator>angryed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will give anyone odds that the DOJ will lose this case. 

This is politics pure and simple. He will &quot;defend&quot; DOMA by putting in the minimum effort. Maybe after that 31 year old is done destroying GM, he&#039;ll be lead counsel for this case. In 2012 he&#039;ll shrug, say I tried, but the gays beat me up on it, what can I do...all the while winking and nudging to GLAAD and Co.

Do not for a minute believe anything this man tells you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will give anyone odds that the DOJ will lose this case. </p>
<p>This is politics pure and simple. He will &#8220;defend&#8221; DOMA by putting in the minimum effort. Maybe after that 31 year old is done destroying GM, he&#8217;ll be lead counsel for this case. In 2012 he&#8217;ll shrug, say I tried, but the gays beat me up on it, what can I do&#8230;all the while winking and nudging to GLAAD and Co.</p>
<p>Do not for a minute believe anything this man tells you.</p>
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		<title>By: myrenovations</title>
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		<dc:creator>myrenovations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 12:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I can almost understnad some of the Kool-Aid drinkers.

During the election I kind of thought Obama was going to turn out the way he has about control, foreign policy and priavte enterprise, but I believed him on the social issues.

I figured that Bill Clinton had strung the gays out for eight years and then splapped then around on occassion, that they was no way they would going to show up at the 
polls for another poltician promising them equality.

I also thought Obama was niave enough to just walk into the Oval Office and within minutes make things happen on Don&#039;t Ask Don&#039;t Tell, DOMA, and the more subtle discrimination that goes on in some federal agencies.  I thought Obama would wave his hand the the gays would inherit the earth and all would be well with the voters and the generals.

But no.  The only high profile cabinet appoint has been Napolitano and she&#039;s not even out.  The military claims that there has been no discussion of DADT.  Now it turns out that there are laws that Obama&#039;s DOJ wants to enforce (rather than make up as they go along).

Obama didn&#039;t run head long into reckless social policy (except on abortion) and I am a wee bit stunned.

The polling numbers on social issues really must scare the crap out of this administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I can almost understnad some of the Kool-Aid drinkers.</p>
<p>During the election I kind of thought Obama was going to turn out the way he has about control, foreign policy and priavte enterprise, but I believed him on the social issues.</p>
<p>I figured that Bill Clinton had strung the gays out for eight years and then splapped then around on occassion, that they was no way they would going to show up at the<br />
polls for another poltician promising them equality.</p>
<p>I also thought Obama was niave enough to just walk into the Oval Office and within minutes make things happen on Don&#8217;t Ask Don&#8217;t Tell, DOMA, and the more subtle discrimination that goes on in some federal agencies.  I thought Obama would wave his hand the the gays would inherit the earth and all would be well with the voters and the generals.</p>
<p>But no.  The only high profile cabinet appoint has been Napolitano and she&#8217;s not even out.  The military claims that there has been no discussion of DADT.  Now it turns out that there are laws that Obama&#8217;s DOJ wants to enforce (rather than make up as they go along).</p>
<p>Obama didn&#8217;t run head long into reckless social policy (except on abortion) and I am a wee bit stunned.</p>
<p>The polling numbers on social issues really must scare the crap out of this administration.</p>
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		<title>By: daryl_herbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>daryl_herbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 06:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Question: Why does the president hate gay people?&lt;/i&gt;

Because Frank Marshall Davis made Obama his catamite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Question: Why does the president hate gay people?</i></p>
<p>Because Frank Marshall Davis made Obama his catamite.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. ZhivBlago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. ZhivBlago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be left up to the states to decide, preferably by ballot.  

On second thought, I was just thinking about how the actual marriage propositions in California have gone down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be left up to the states to decide, preferably by ballot.  </p>
<p>On second thought, I was just thinking about how the actual marriage propositions in California have gone down.</p>
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		<title>By: coldwarrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>coldwarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;He can’t figure out a fabulous special tax for them. Don’t worry though, he’s working hard on it.

kahall on June 12, 2009 at 9:02 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Guess the pole tax isn&#039;t an option?  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He can’t figure out a fabulous special tax for them. Don’t worry though, he’s working hard on it.</p>
<p>kahall on June 12, 2009 at 9:02 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Guess the pole tax isn&#8217;t an option?  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Siobhan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siobhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asinine, but unsurprising.</description>
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		<title>By: bayview</title>
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		<dc:creator>bayview</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/12/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5084948.shtml

Heartache. Gay right activists are irate at Obama.</description>
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<p>Heartache. Gay right activists are irate at Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy Munford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy Munford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;luvstotango on June 12, 2009 at 10:38 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I mentioned in an earlier post that this move enhances those rumors, true or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>luvstotango on June 12, 2009 at 10:38 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>I mentioned in an earlier post that this move enhances those rumors, true or not.</p>
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		<title>By: winky the barbarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>winky the barbarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The critical event that defined Obama, that shaped his life more than any other, happened when he was a small child. His absent father died... long before Barack could get to know him.

Some children who feel abandoned lash out at the absent parent, swearing they will be nothing like them... others build them up to mythic proportions, and (unconsciously, perhaps) work to be just like them... awaiting an approving pat on the head that can never come.

The fact that Barack Obama named his book &quot;Dreams of My Father&quot; shows which camp he belongs to.

Once you understand this, Barack&#039;s political philosophy makes sense. Barack&#039;s father was an African socialist, a mid-twentieth century hybrid of Marxism, anti-colonialism, and tribalism. Whenever Obama diverges from the standard Democrat party line, he is doing so to &quot;legitimize&quot; or &quot;redeem&quot; the beliefs of his father.

This explains his general antipathy to gay issues.

This explains why he is so openly rewarding his supporters/punishing his detractors using federal power and money... that is common in his father&#039;s homeland, and must be made legitimate here for that very reason.

This also explains his dislike of all things European.

Also explained is his nomination of Sotomeyer. He is unbothered with the idea of ethnic/racial tribalism being a part of the law, tribal loyalty is considered quite natural throughout large parts of Africa. Tribal membership is oft-times more important than abstracts like &quot;truth&quot; and &quot;the law&quot;. 

His father wrote of taxing both outsiders and the rich at rates of 90% to 100%, with the proceeds going to favored tribes... not too far from the experience of Chrysler bondholders.

His use of political thugs like ACORN and the SEIU fit comfortably within the mainstream of politics in his father&#039;s homeland.

Barack Obama built his identity to please a ghost, to resurrect a ghost. to redeem a ghost. He truly thinks the ways of his father, learned from his writings and from family stories, are as legitimate as anything invented here in the West, and he will always try to &quot;normalize&quot; those beliefs.

He is not a communist, a socialist, or a secret muslim. He is an African socialist. And that makes him a little bit of all those things, but not quite any one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The critical event that defined Obama, that shaped his life more than any other, happened when he was a small child. His absent father died&#8230; long before Barack could get to know him.</p>
<p>Some children who feel abandoned lash out at the absent parent, swearing they will be nothing like them&#8230; others build them up to mythic proportions, and (unconsciously, perhaps) work to be just like them&#8230; awaiting an approving pat on the head that can never come.</p>
<p>The fact that Barack Obama named his book &#8220;Dreams of My Father&#8221; shows which camp he belongs to.</p>
<p>Once you understand this, Barack&#8217;s political philosophy makes sense. Barack&#8217;s father was an African socialist, a mid-twentieth century hybrid of Marxism, anti-colonialism, and tribalism. Whenever Obama diverges from the standard Democrat party line, he is doing so to &#8220;legitimize&#8221; or &#8220;redeem&#8221; the beliefs of his father.</p>
<p>This explains his general antipathy to gay issues.</p>
<p>This explains why he is so openly rewarding his supporters/punishing his detractors using federal power and money&#8230; that is common in his father&#8217;s homeland, and must be made legitimate here for that very reason.</p>
<p>This also explains his dislike of all things European.</p>
<p>Also explained is his nomination of Sotomeyer. He is unbothered with the idea of ethnic/racial tribalism being a part of the law, tribal loyalty is considered quite natural throughout large parts of Africa. Tribal membership is oft-times more important than abstracts like &#8220;truth&#8221; and &#8220;the law&#8221;. </p>
<p>His father wrote of taxing both outsiders and the rich at rates of 90% to 100%, with the proceeds going to favored tribes&#8230; not too far from the experience of Chrysler bondholders.</p>
<p>His use of political thugs like ACORN and the SEIU fit comfortably within the mainstream of politics in his father&#8217;s homeland.</p>
<p>Barack Obama built his identity to please a ghost, to resurrect a ghost. to redeem a ghost. He truly thinks the ways of his father, learned from his writings and from family stories, are as legitimate as anything invented here in the West, and he will always try to &#8220;normalize&#8221; those beliefs.</p>
<p>He is not a communist, a socialist, or a secret muslim. He is an African socialist. And that makes him a little bit of all those things, but not quite any one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.Cwac.Cwac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.Cwac.Cwac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 03:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a good thread from the DUmmies.....

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;address=389x5833429&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama defends DOMA in federal court. Says banning gay marriage is good for the federal budget.&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;em&gt;Yes, really.&lt;/em&gt;

Comments are hysterical!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a good thread from the DUmmies&#8230;..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;address=389x5833429" rel="nofollow">Obama defends DOMA in federal court. Says banning gay marriage is good for the federal budget.</a>  <em>Yes, really.</em></p>
<p>Comments are hysterical!</p>
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