Netanyahu gives ground on Palestinian statehood
posted at 12:16 pm on June 12, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
So reports Eli Lake, who says that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will make an important concession this weekend in accepting the idea of a Palestinian state. Israeli governments have previously accepted the two-state solution as their official position, but Netanyahu’s conservative coalition has generally opposed it. Netanyahu has not renounced previous Israeli policy since taking office in March, but the public acceptance of the plan will be seen as a “major shift”:
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in a major shift, will accept the notion of a Palestinian state — a policy pushed by the Obama administration but resisted until now by Mr. Netanyahu, Israeli officials and Americans briefed on the Israeli leader’s thinking said.
The policy reversal, which is expected to go public this weekend, could help restart negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians and allow the Israeli leader to steer a course between Mr. Obama’s view and those of his own hawkish base.
The Israeli and American officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told The Washington Times on Thursday that Mr. Netanyahu, in a major speech Sunday, will, however, set Israeli parameters for recognizing Palestinian sovereignty.
Those parameters include just about every kind of sovereignty encroachment one can imagine, which will make this a lot less serious of a proposal than Obama wants. Netanyahu wants the right to station the IDF anywhere on the eastern and southern borders of the Palestinian state. Netanyahu also wants carte blanche in Palestinian airspace, as well as control over their foreign policy. That won’t mean independence for the Palestinians; it will mean a greater degree of autonomy, but still leave them in a de facto protectorate status, much like we have seen with Bermuda and the UK this week.
Of course, Netanyahu has good reasons for these demands. If the Arabs attempt another invasion through the West Bank — the very reason Israel has the territory now — they will need both troops on the ground and planes in the air to fight. They need both to deter a potential attack, too. Israel will also want to ensure that a Palestinian state does not sign treaties with Syria and Iran that will put their troops on Israel’s borders.
These points demonstrate how difficult it will be to achieve a real two-state solution in this conflict with true independence for the Palestinians. They have proven themselves untrustworthy in the extreme in more than 15 years since the Oslo accords, actively and openly encouraging terrorist attacks against Israel at times and financing and managing them less explicitly for the entirety of the period. They get encouragement primarily from Iran and Syria, who funds Hamas, Hezbollah, and Islamic Jihad to fight a proxy war with Israel. The Israelis cannot allow an independent state on their border become a satellite of the mullahs in Tehran.
Will the Obama administration hail this as a breakthrough? Probably, because he needs to mend his fences with Israel and its supporters here in the US. That will send some interesting signals to the Palestinians.
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Will this give Isreal access to TARP funds?
the Coondawg on June 12, 2009 at 12:20 PM
A big mistake Bibi, if true.
GFW on June 12, 2009 at 12:22 PM
We’ll see, but I suspect Obama is more interested in mending fences with “the Muslim world”, based on his performance to date.
ProfessorMiao on June 12, 2009 at 12:22 PM
Bibi just out Obamaed Obama. The PA will never accept these terms and Bibi knows it, but it LOOKS as if he did. Saying one thing, but really doing another. Love it!
And so this dance goes on.
freeus on June 12, 2009 at 12:23 PM
this w’ont changr anything.
SHARPTOOTH on June 12, 2009 at 12:23 PM
I think this is a case where one has to decide whether a people deserve sovereignty as a inherent right and also accept the consequences that come along with it such as the Palestinian state not being being exactly Israel friendly or maintaining influence over another group of people and taking away their freedom to govern themselves in exchange for safety.
I understand how Israel feels and quite frankly I think they should be able to maintain some control for a time while maybe making concessions for a two state solution with limitations but I also think the Palestinians should have the right to govern themselves if they can prove that they will not be hostile to their neighbors.
Norvell on June 12, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Netanyahu’s government should fall on this, because Israel surely will. This is pure insanity – to give even an inch on Pali statehood. Palis deserve nothing and, in fact, will have to leave the West Bank.
Israel had better learn that they cannot get on the good side of The Precedent. His “good side” is only for America-haters and Israel-haters. Israel can’t get there, without killing itself.
This is a gignatic mistake by Netanyahu and he should be tossed out as soon as he makes this statement.
progressoverpeace on June 12, 2009 at 12:25 PM
If he hails it as a breakthrough than Netanyahu will have successfully played Obama as a sucker.
(Not that that’s a bad thing).
I also wouldn’t put it past him that he also wants Obama’s assurance for support for a strike on Iran if need be.
Skywise on June 12, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Meanwhile, Star Wars bar scene crowd have approved sanctions against the Norks. Well, I know lil Kim is so very scared!
FIrst act of a Conservative POTUS should be to deport the UN!
freeus on June 12, 2009 at 12:26 PM
What he needs to do is come out with a Major Speech saying…
Palis, we will help you get a State on these conditions, you recognize the Israeli right to exist, and stop ALL the rockets from your territories.
You have TWO days to accept, and ACT, on these conditions.
These are the absolute MINIMUMS for any further talks, as these are nothing beyond what is needed for Israel, as is its right, to survive.
If you do not agree with these conditions, we will not talk, and using the RIGHT of self defense, will take ONE SQUARE MILE of your occupied territory for every missle you fire into Israel.
This is not a negotiation, these things we demand to even START negotiating.
Romeo13 on June 12, 2009 at 12:27 PM
And there’s the loophole. Netanyahu can look like he’s willing to negotiate with full knowledge that there is no way the two-state solution is going to get beyond the talk stage. The Obama camp can claim some sort of foreign policy victory when, in actuality they have done nothing substantive since taking office and Hillary Clinton seems to have completely disappeared from public view.
Obama should simply take over Israel, force the country into bankruptcy, and then sell it off to Palestinians and other of his Muslim brothers for .29/dollar. If there is no Israel, there is no problem. The only losers are the Israelis but Obama hates Jews anyway. It’s a win/win situation for the racist liar in the White House.
highhopes on June 12, 2009 at 12:27 PM
The Israelis will not give up their birthright handed down from Abram. It is the brthright of all the Jewish people.
American Liberal Jews have sold their birthright for a cocktail weenie and a place at the Liberal Elite Country Club Party.
kingsjester on June 12, 2009 at 12:27 PM
If Bibi accepts Obama’s idea, but Obama is controlled by the Jews, then was this all part of Israel’s plan all along? Zionists, so inscrutable!
jacrews on June 12, 2009 at 12:27 PM
And if Netanyahu thinks that he can put conditions on anything, he’s crazy. Israel tried to accept the Road Map with 14 (or 17 or something) reservations, but those reservations were tossed into the trash and Israel was considered bound by the whole, idiotic, suicidal Road Map – and that was by the Bush admin which was a great friend of Israel (save Condi and some other morons, there).
Israel has to understand that this game is not played fairly or honestly. It is played by arab/persian/muslim rules … which means no real rules, just anything to end Israel’s existence.
progressoverpeace on June 12, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Netanyahu is turning the tables on Obama, he will agree but make the Muslims go first, and they won’t.
Firebird on June 12, 2009 at 12:28 PM
insane….I can’t believe he would kowtow to the PA…Israel keeps getting hosed
cmsinaz on June 12, 2009 at 12:28 PM
I can assure you that Bibi is out flanking O’ some how some way. He will not make a decision like this if it puts Isreal at a disadvantage in any way.
the Coondawg on June 12, 2009 at 12:29 PM
That is in fact the position that Netanyahu has stated previously, with the caveat that any promises of statehood until such proof is evident are inappropriate.
ProfessorMiao on June 12, 2009 at 12:29 PM
I find it ridiculous that Bibi is haggling with Obama and not the “Palestinians” over these issues. But either way…
Whatever the “major shift” will be, it won’t be anything different on the ground.
The difference between left and right Israeli governments is the extent to which they are apologetic or smiling to the world about the policy they pursue, which happens to be almost identical. There really is no other way for any Israeli government. What has been true for many decades is still true today: the “Palestinians” are not ready for a state. Removing some “outposts” won’t make them any more ready.
This upcoming speech will just be more talking and politicking. Same policies dressed in some tougher language but made of the same conditions and caveats that several of the previous governments and most recent candidates were pursuing.
The current so-called “settlement” policy will stay the same, just as Israel’s behaviour. Things will only start changing once “Palestinians” and Iran renounce genocide, and recognize Israel as a JEWISH state, with everything that this recognition comes with.
Until then we’ll be seeing the same.
AlexB on June 12, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Unless Israel’s plan includes blowingitself off the face of the earth, nothing Israel concedes will ever be good enough. Just watch and wait.
flyawaybird on June 12, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Do you honestly think that such an assurance from Obama would mean anything? Obama only cares about Obama and taking military action isn’t in the best interests of a man who won office on the pledge of destroying American power and strength.
If I were Netanyahu, I wouldn’t want the assurances of a filthy liar like Obama. I’d want the hardware and armaments to make such a strike possible (think of it as a request for a self-protection do-it-yourself kit). Israel cannot rely on the US with Obama in the White House and Jimmy Carter providing the filthy liar with advice about this part of the world.
highhopes on June 12, 2009 at 12:32 PM
As a reminder people, it was reported last week that the Obama Administration is working closely with Livni in order to displace Netanyahu. They are not hiding the fact that THEY want Livni in because it was said there was no belief or assurance the two state solution could be accomplished under Bibi’s rule.
If Bibi is not in charge you can bet Israel is toast. Livni is a sellout to anything. She is not the powerhouse Bibi is. Bibi IMO is doing this to protect his political future in order to be around when it is time to protect Israel from Iran, or Hamas and Hezbollah from other fronts.
His proposal is more restrictive than what the Palestinians are currently living under. THEY WILL NOT accept this. The shoe, or sandal is on the other foot. This was an awesome political strategy move in my book and one that buys Bibi and Israel more time to take out ALL which endanger them.
freeus on June 12, 2009 at 12:33 PM
Conservatives lose again.
Lizza on June 12, 2009 at 12:34 PM
who runs America? Here’s a hint NOT Obama
equality on June 12, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Those parameters include just about every kind of sovereignty encroachment one can imagine, which will make this a lot less serious of a proposal than Obama wants. Netanyahu wants the right to station the IDF anywhere on the eastern and southern borders of the Palestinian state. Netanyahu also wants carte blanche in Palestinian airspace, as well as control over their foreign policy. That won’t mean independence for the Palestinians; it will mean a greater degree of autonomy, but still leave them in a de facto protectorate status, much like we have seen with Bermuda and the UK this week. As long as I can remember the Palistinians have never been capable of governing themselves. This plan gives them the security and asurance of a permanent homeland under the protection of Israel. No other country has ever been asked to give up real-estate for the Palestinians.
fourdeucer on June 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM
Because it worked so well in Gaza. Its been nothing butpeacefull there since the Israelis left.
sonofdy on June 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM
I naminate this post for the stupidest post of the day.
sonofdy on June 12, 2009 at 12:35 PM
1.5 million “Palestinians” live in Israel. 200 thousand Israelis live in the “Palestinian” West Bank and Gaza.
Odd that Israel never suggest a mass cross-exodus (like the Pakistan-India split). Probably because the Israelis would be on the hook to forcibly do all of the moving for both sides. The chaos would be an open invitation to invasion.
Agrippa2k on June 12, 2009 at 12:36 PM
You admit its Soros, Ayers, and Rashid Khalidi? Good job coming to grips with that.
PimFortuynsGhost on June 12, 2009 at 12:37 PM
If nothing else, it removes the possibility that Obama can point to Israel and say that they are hindering coming up with the two-state solution. What will be interesting now is to see if Obama goes to his Muslim/terrorist buddies and attempts to get them to make the next move or (as is more likely) the whole issue is dead once the filthy liar in the White House declares “substantive progress on the road peace and productive dialogue between Israel and the terrorists who hate them.”
highhopes on June 12, 2009 at 12:37 PM
since Netanyahu did not make his speech I hesitate to prejudge it, however, while Abbas and the rest of the arabs have completely and unequivocally renounced the acceptance of a Jewish state, I will find it foolhardy for any leader of Israel to accept a “palestinian” state, even with conditions. Let the arabs do the work and recognize the Jewish state, and then we shall see..
runner on June 12, 2009 at 12:38 PM
BiBi needs to be over accommodating on every issue. Even go to the extremes of Palestinian demands. Obama doesn’t get it and never will until he is faced with reality of Palestinian belligerence.
The anti-Obama rhetoric that would ensue would be something to see. I can hear Clinton saying “I told you so” now.
Agrippa2k on June 12, 2009 at 12:39 PM
Translation: The JOOOOS run America.
Follow up question: Why can’t we win more than 22% of the Jewish vote?
Gee, I wonder.
Lizza on June 12, 2009 at 12:41 PM
SUCKER!
faol on June 12, 2009 at 12:41 PM
do the facilities for mentally ill allow internet access ?
runner on June 12, 2009 at 12:41 PM
While I recognize the delicate diplomatic position Netanyahu is in, I also recognize that pressure from Obama is not in Israel’s best interest and that Netanyahu — who I greatly respect and have confidence in — ‘should’ maintain his firm representation of Israel, for Israel.
I’m not Netanyahu, obviously, I can’t speak for him as to what he foresees and has in mind, but as an American, I do see overwhelming evidence that Barack Obama does not and doesn’t intend to have any insights of a — allow me to say this diplomatically — productive kind where Israel is concerned.
Lourdes on June 12, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Let’s remember that Clinton was so desperate for an agreement before leaving office he tried to buy peace and Arafat flatly said no. The two state solution isn’t going to work until there is some assurance that the one state isn’t going along just to get the chance to kill every living creature in the other state’s land.
highhopes on June 12, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Clearly you love to dream the impossible. There is a new sheriff in town – in case that fact escapes you.
The status quo cannot and will not be tolerated anymore.
kokobin on June 12, 2009 at 12:47 PM
This is a big mistake if Bibi goes through with this. He needs to be strong and not concede.
jencab on June 12, 2009 at 12:47 PM
I also as overview conclude that the “two state solution” expression is but filler-talk by those whose eventual goal is the eradication of Israel. It may not be one big moment they have in mind (who can say, not as if it’s worthy material to try to imagine, at least not for me) but the overall goal, the end-point, is the eradication of Israel.
Thus, this limp expression, “two state solution,” is used to fill in the reality gaps in human events and to remove greater scrutiny as to what the motivations behind that expression actually are. It’s like saying that you’re driving moderately at 120 mph.
Lourdes on June 12, 2009 at 12:48 PM
If this in fact what Bibi is going to announce in his speech, it is depressing.
myrenovations on June 12, 2009 at 12:49 PM
Muslims can’t and won’t even attend a Press Conference when there is but one Israeli reporter present. Does anyone, ANYone, actually believe that these so-called of-late “Palestinians” are going to just peacefully co-exist with Israel next door? Not likely. Not even remotely likely.
Don’t accept cookies from sexual predators, don’t get in the car with strangers, don’t be so gullible as to believe you can “just all get along” with anyone who has declared their intention and desire to see you annihilated.
Lourdes on June 12, 2009 at 12:50 PM
How do you get anti-Semitism out of my list, you stupid bint?
I listed Ogabe’s paymaster (who was an admitted Nazi collaborator hates Israel), the author of his first biography and a anti-Western terrorist, and a Pali fundraiser and FOB (Friend of Barry).
Anyone who doesn’t think these are the people who pull Ogabe’s strings are delusional.
PimFortuynsGhost on June 12, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Right, exactly so.
Let’s wait and see what Netanyahu has to say Sunday. Perhaps have faith in the man as a courageous and intelligent leader who isn’t easily fooled, which is what I think of him.
Lourdes on June 12, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Unfortunately for you lot, the days of “wink-wink” are gone.
You sign a settlement deal, and you receive billions in arms and aid for your good faith bargain and then have the temerity and audacity to say you will not honour your commitment.
Well, Hebrews, President Barak H obama is not in the mood.
kokobin on June 12, 2009 at 12:54 PM
Obama will tout this a being successful…then behind the scenes do everything he can to dismantle it.
Israel is making a big mistake if they think that Obama will stand behind them in any agreement.
The U.S., with Obama “leading” them, is not the person you want who has “got your back”.
The first breach, and the Palestinians know this, will be tolerated by the U.S.
Just like some of the speeches Obama gave with a “conservative slant” and a wink to the people who were really supporting him…look at what he says, then look at what he does.
right2bright on June 12, 2009 at 12:55 PM
Conditional.
Bibi knows that Uncle Sugar and the PALS will never be able to deliver on the conditions. It’ll be another shell game by Barry to show the world what a difference he is making.
Limerick on June 12, 2009 at 12:56 PM
If you don’t know the answer to that question, you know little about history, and less about the Jewish family.
right2bright on June 12, 2009 at 12:58 PM
How do you get anti-Semitism out of my list, you stupid bint?
PimFortuynsGhost on June 12, 2009 at 12:51 PM
Well, Bill Ayres once had a Jewish podiatrist…
TexasJew on June 12, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Soros was never a Nazi collaborator and he never claimed to be. Soros was 13 years old when the Nazis invaded Poland and murdered most of his friends and family.
You are serious scum.
Lizza on June 12, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Israel should just deport all Palestinians from the west-bank and annex it (It should have been their’s from the get-go anyway).
The so-called “Palestinians” already have a state, its called Jordan. But, give them a choice of being dumped across the border into Jordan or going to Gaza instead.
And if Jordan “objects” just shove them across, close the border and leave it up to the Jordanians to deal with them. After all, its pretty much Jordan’s fault that there is a “Palestinian” problem anyway.
Fatal on June 12, 2009 at 12:59 PM
Sorry, God’s not on your side.
Lourdes on June 12, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Ynet disagrees.
Netanyahu was voted in because he is hardline and does not believe in a 2 state solution. A couple of months later, and after the disaster of giving Gaza to the muslims, it would be political suicide.
Blake on June 12, 2009 at 1:02 PM
Read this. If you can.
PimFortuynsGhost on June 12, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Soros is certainly proof positive that a human being can and is guided by evil goals. Evil oftentimes if not routinely wears a smiley face, by the way, looks like a great big Sugar Daddy, of the right family, fitting and popular, all those ‘good things’ that can easily lead others astray when their hopes for change are rooted in vanity and greed.
Soros is to Jewish what mold is to good fruit.
Lourdes on June 12, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Nice stall tactic Netanyahu. He will simply wait until there’s another President to turn this around. They demand a great Israel.
True_King on June 12, 2009 at 1:05 PM
This isnt Netanyahu`s first rodeo, he has substance and we are about to see the One out matched. I just hope this amatuer does`nt get us into WW111 with his naivete.
LSUMama on June 12, 2009 at 1:05 PM
The Hebrews have been doing that for years, – sign a peace deal and then “wink-wink” with the repugs in the WH and build more and more settlements in hopes of a deal from a position of strength with the Palestinians.
President Obama insists on following the letter of the law – no more cheating no more settlements.
kokobin on June 12, 2009 at 1:06 PM
That’s the orders that have gone down: We shall smear anyone who disagrees with The One as anti-semitic. SG was pulling that crap with me all day yesterday.
Blake on June 12, 2009 at 1:06 PM
I trust Bibi a heckuvalot more than I do Obambi.
pambi on June 12, 2009 at 1:07 PM
http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/soros_the_guiltless.html
Excellent article, once again, from American Thinker, on old Soros, the merry misleader.
This does not address, however, the Jewish people, me writing this. Like I said, Soros is to Jews what mold is to good fruit. Sometimes individuals fall terribly astray and Soros is one of them.
Lourdes on June 12, 2009 at 1:07 PM
Ditto.
Lourdes on June 12, 2009 at 1:07 PM
Wow, this story is a Jew hater magnet:
kokobin
True_king
Blake on June 12, 2009 at 1:09 PM
**In related news**
U.S. intelligence can confirm that Mossad has hacked into the the strategy center of TOTUS and extracted the key formula for The One’s successes. Be prepared for Netanyahu to use them against him.
Bibi, you magnificent bastard!
red winger on June 12, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Oh, God.
You have fallen for the biggest lie that Barack Obama has glibly enjoyed authoring: convincing some that his education represents his qualifications to honor and respect — and even understand — just what “the letter of the law” even means.
Obama understands the words strung together. He does not, however, respect nor “honor” accordingly, what those words mean in spirit or in intent. He USES expressions to lie, cheat and steal and he feels empowered in doing so because he’s soully corrupted.
There is a vast difference between a person who is capable of activity by way of talent and wisdom and one who has read all the books because of the ability to read.
Lourdes on June 12, 2009 at 1:10 PM
SG and Lizza are fvcking delusional. I guess they are pi$$ed their majors in Ethnic Dance Movements have them handing out brochures for ACORN.
I think my colleagues would find any charges of anti-Semitism levelled at my by some two bit lefty bint to be quite laughable.
PimFortuynsGhost on June 12, 2009 at 1:10 PM
Heh that could have interesting ramifications…
Obama [reading off TOTUS]: “And that is why… I uh… am going to throw all of the US support behind Netanyahu and will support him in whatever action he wants… wait… what?”
Skywise on June 12, 2009 at 1:12 PM
Really and truly?
Very funny.
You must be relying on the Hebrew’s fictional books and collections of creation myths they claim as authority for stealing land and murdering thousands of little children for more than 60 years.
God has now put in a President Obama to correct the situation with the Hebrews and the Palestinians.
kokobin on June 12, 2009 at 1:12 PM
You’re kidding me, right? The Nazis forced, Soros, at gunpoint at the age of 13, to cart off Jewish possessions, and you think this qualifies as Soros being a serious “collaborator”.
Yeah, clearly he should have just ate a bullet.
I’m sure you would have been so much more heroic. Pathetic.
Lizza on June 12, 2009 at 1:13 PM
hammer this SOB
Limerick on June 12, 2009 at 1:13 PM
Yes, they always are, ha, so you noticed.
Eventually someone will call someone else a despicable term.
I’d like to see the pressure applied (even emotionally, if necessary) on the so-called “Palestinians” and the world o’ Islam to control themselves instead of the focus being routinely applied to Isreal for it’s intent to survive. There’s more than enough already exposed about Islam and about the Arab problems amidst their own to fill several Dead Seas, yet the screaming always seems to be directed toward “the jooooosss.” Unfortunately.
I think this is made possible by many in the media who just want some sort of peace in their day and think that by not speaking up, that’ll treat the cancer. They’re wrong.
Lourdes on June 12, 2009 at 1:14 PM
So you believe in the god of the fictional books?
Skywise on June 12, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Umm, you’re new around here, aren’t you? If you want to stick around, I suggest you lose the Kos/DU terminology. It’s a dead giveaway.
rockmom on June 12, 2009 at 1:16 PM
I’d rather they hacked into Axelrod and Emanuel’s minds and set them both to reboot.
Lourdes on June 12, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Translation: Jews who don’t support conservatives aren’t real Jews.
For those of you counting at home, thats 80% of the Jewish community. Funny how outraged conservatives are when a liberal suggests that Michael Steele is an Uncle Tom, yet conservatives have no problem branding liberal Jews as “self-hating” and “not really Jews”.
Gotta love that classic conservative hypocrisy.
Lizza on June 12, 2009 at 1:16 PM
Lemme guess, your bookshelf includes The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, right?
rockmom on June 12, 2009 at 1:18 PM
He didn’t feel any guilt. He stated this repeatedly. He felt no guilt for his actions. That is collaboration.
How much does Soros pay you to pimp for him, anyway? Since you obviously suck at it, I hope it isn’t much.
Oh, and he’s Hungarian, not Polish, you dumb kurva.
PimFortuynsGhost on June 12, 2009 at 1:19 PM
Who are these “Hebrews” kokobin keeps talking about? Last time I checked, Israel was a nation that counted both Jews and Arabs amongst its population.
And, wasn’t it Israel that forcibly removed all settlements and settlers from Gaza, only to be rewarded with non-stop rocket attacks against civilians?
Yeah, its those nasty Israeli’s who engage in “wink wink” negotiations, not the mis-named “Palestinians” who responded to an offer to provide them with their own state with an “intifada”? No wonder the Israeli’s are hesitant to offer them a second chance.
what a piece of work this little liar is.
Fatal on June 12, 2009 at 1:21 PM
Don’t worry too much. The Left *always* starts calling Conservatives/Republicans/Anyone not a Leftist “anti semitic” when and if they’re (the Left) losing the argument. It’s not based in anything real or sensible, it’s just one of those screed accusations the Left uses when they try to create “a bad reputation” about someone who is making sense.
You’re not anti-semitic, based upon what I’ve read you’ve written. I’ve been called the same term and it makes no sense in reality to who I am and what I believe, what my opinions are. Like I said, it’s often just a nasty pejorative the Left flings about without applicable sense to those they target.
UNFORTUNATELY, because by overusing the term, using it irrationally and irreverantly, it’s actually indicative OF anti-semitism by those who do that. They’re watering down the credibility of the term and in doing so, depleting the actual offensiveness of those who really are such. It’s a disarming tactic, an attempt to misuse an important term such that it loses it’s meaning.
Lourdes on June 12, 2009 at 1:21 PM
Hahaha! That statement made me spit coffee all over my desk. Thanks for the laugh you ignorant moron.
javamartini on June 12, 2009 at 1:22 PM
portlandon on June 12, 2009 at 12:51 PM
What god are you talking about? Not the God of Christians
or Jews.
kokobin on June 12, 2009 at 1:12 PM
Conservatives don’t hate Jewish people. However, it is disappointing that the Liberal ones are willing to sell out their birthright from Abram in order to be see as “cool”.
kingsjester on June 12, 2009 at 1:22 PM
יחי ישראל
bluelightbrigade on June 12, 2009 at 1:23 PM
Obama and Jer. Wright are here? At Hotair? Cool.
Daggett on June 12, 2009 at 1:23 PM
God “of those fictional books” – so you call Him (I do not) — did not “put in…Obama,” hardly so. God allows evil inorder to prune the faithful, He purifies those He loves and who love Him. Thus, we get evils like Obama.
Lourdes on June 12, 2009 at 1:24 PM
I support Israel in ANY action it needs to (will) take against the palestinians.
madmonkphotog on June 12, 2009 at 1:24 PM
This is probably all pointless rhetoric on Bibi’s part. the Israelis have always “conceded” that there will be a two-state solution, knowing the Palestinians aren’t interested. Heck, even Arik Sharon and Menachem Begin agreed with the 2 state solution and you’d think those two would have been the least interested in this.
How this is a story is beyond me.
mjk on June 12, 2009 at 1:25 PM
You mean how liberals have completely screwed up the term Fasicism?
Bush gives tax credits to spur on industry and that’s “Fascist.”
Obama nationalizes industries and that’s just good business sense to save Democracy…
Skywise on June 12, 2009 at 1:25 PM
You are getting funnier with your desperation to paint Harvard Law Review’s first black president and constitutional professor a pretend president like Shrub in Chief who messed up the nation with 2 wars and a bankrupt economy on the orders of Darth Cheney and the HalliButts.
If you wish to make it easier on yourself, stick your head in the sand and wag your hips from one side to the other.
kokobin on June 12, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Obama:
I believe in the letter of the law starting with the Declaration of Independence. Let’s see. The first letter is the letter “D”, which I believe stands for “Do whatever I want.”
Daggett on June 12, 2009 at 1:26 PM
Liar. Soros said when he was 14 when he helped the man he was living with as a Christian and confiscated the property of the of the Jews that had been shipped off to Birkenau. No one held a gun to his head. No one forced him. And he said he felt no guilt over it years later.
Yes, you are pathetic.
Blake on June 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM
Not quite. Jews who support policies that will destroy Israel and bring a second Holocaust are despicable, self-hating scum.
This is not different from the fact that Americans who support an anti-American, anti-Western moron in the White House are despicable, self-hating scum.
progressoverpeace on June 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM
PimFortuynsGhost and Lourdes
Thanks for the link to the American Thinker…. I’ve wondered about Soros’ background and what makes him tick, and that cleared up a lot of questions, plus shows how much of a dark force is behind his billions.
I think it also dovetails beautifully as to what is going on – being the “man behind the curtain” with this Obamanation.
tru2tx on June 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM
Well you’ve seen that in his transcript he had a pretty average GPA.
Skywise on June 12, 2009 at 1:29 PM
A constitutional law professor with absolutely no peer reviewed articles to his name? Ogabe was a bigger failure as an academic than as a community organizer. If he would have pursued academia, he wouldn’t have been tenured.
How stupid are you, really? I need to know because I’m amazed you are able to log on to a computer.
PimFortuynsGhost on June 12, 2009 at 1:30 PM
No, “Lizza,” that is YOUR demented “transalation” — it does not represent the truth of what I earlier expressed here. It’s what’s in YOUR head that is twisted, like more of that mold I earlier described on what would otherwise be good fruit.
There’s nothing hypocritical in what I wrote, nor nothing “Copnservative” of that kind, either.
George Soros is a misguided man. Are you aware of how it is he accumulates all his wealth? Just as a starter question here…
He impoverishes people. He creates wealth, or “earns” billions, by creating debt and then leaving entire nations, certainly entire economies, in ruins, which results in individuals on a massive scale being left in the lurch economically, for generations. He then preaches about how he seeks “democracy” while emulating all the bad character of what most democracies decry.
He has little to do with Israel in any sense of belonging with genuine affection to a nation of people. He’s a simple, though far-reaching, corruption in humanity. If you doubt as much, just look at his “fruit”.
Lourdes on June 12, 2009 at 1:30 PM
Not really.
But I feel the need to humour the natives with their own narrative. (All that when in Rome do as the Hebrews do)
kokobin on June 12, 2009 at 1:30 PM
You are very welcome. And thanks, Lourdes, Blake, and skywise.
PimFortuynsGhost on June 12, 2009 at 1:31 PM
I’m really sorry for you. Such pitiful and hateful desperation, such an utter lack of humanity indicated in your expressions. Surely, I am entirely sorry for you, have great pity for you, along with utter disgust at your lack of sense.
Lourdes on June 12, 2009 at 1:33 PM
Now you want to deny me my passover matzoh? There aren’t that many jews, so each one of us has had the pleasure of murdering a few children. I prefer Christian children, but christian or pali, once you try it, you’ll never go back. We do it here in the states too.
JiangxiDad on June 12, 2009 at 1:33 PM
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