Where do those “created or saved” job numbers originate?

posted at 8:05 am on June 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey

Joe Biden couldn’t answer that question, saying that the answer was “above his pay grade,” even though he’s got the second-highest pay grade in the executive branch.  Barack Obama, who has the only higher pay grade, won’t explain his “saved or created” statistics, either.  We all know the actual answer: Obama’s team calculated that spending X amount would “create or save” X jobs, and they’re sticking with the formula even while unemployment skyrockets and reveals their utterly useless pronouncements.

Under those circumstances, Chris Muir hits it pretty close to the mark:

I’m surprised that Obama hasn’t yet figured out that he could just as easily claim that he’s “created or saved” 130 million jobs.  After all, if we hadn’t elected Obama, every single one of us could have lost our jobs.  Can we prove that we wouldn’t have gotten fired?  If he wants to pull stats out of his nether regions, why not just go for the whole enchilada?


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The really pernicious aspect of the “I saved your job” meme is how effective it is. There are millions of people who truly believe that they wouldn’t have their job if various government actions hadn’t been taken. It started with the New Deal, continued through the Great Society, and today, if you have to ask the question “Can you just make up numbers on how many jobs you’ve saved?”, the clear answer is…

Yes, we can!

The Monster on June 11, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Can we please institute mandatory political science classes before allowing people the responsibility to vote?

There’s a test for gaining your driver’s license and no way is that more dangerous than choosing to elect a community organizer to the highest office in the land…

One Against Many on June 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM

What’s with the cartoon above that started this….the character looks like the type of moron that gave us, “The One”, and STILL worships him.

Jeff from WI on June 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM

HoustonRight on June 11, 2009 at 9:19 AM

Yep, that is the feeling across much of the country.

No one knows what he will do next, but it’s pretty certain that it will be bad for business.

Of course, the same thing is happening is some big businesses, too. Obama is helping unions become stronger at the same time they are going broke. They really need card check to increase numbers and short-term cash.

In addition to increased taxes, possible increased union wages, a sinking dollar, and rising oil again, you have to worry about what crippling new ‘green’ regulations will be passed.

It’s even worse with companies like GE, who are in bed with Obama. GE has positioned itself to not only profit from the green craze, but to operate under any new regulations.

reaganaut on June 11, 2009 at 9:55 AM

The only job he’s trying to save is his own. Panic has set in at the WH and it’s only month month five. “You ain’t seen nothin’ yet!”

Akzed on June 11, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Those are the numbers that passed muster in the focus group.
What we have in the White House is governance by wishful thinking, popular opinion, and propaganda.

PaddyJ on June 11, 2009 at 9:57 AM

If he wants to pull stats out of his nether regions, why not just go for the whole enchilada?

The last thing I want to see (or think of) is That One pulling an echilada out of his nether regions. {Shudders}

theenforser on June 11, 2009 at 9:59 AM

Panic has set in at the WH and it’s only month month five.
Akzed on June 11, 2009 at 9:56 AM

Look at today’s NY Post picture of Obama.

He’s sweating.
The editorial is pretty good too.

Loxodonta on June 11, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Those are the numbers that passed muster in the focus group.
What we have in the White House is governance by wishful thinking, popular opinion, and propaganda.

PaddyJ on June 11, 2009 at 9:57 AM

Obama in a speech mentioned the 10,000 deaths in Greesburg kansas. The town was well under 2,000 peole. The actual number was 12 or less. In checking dates, the green jobs in rebuilding ?greensburg all came before the innaguration. Bush gets blamed for green employment.
Of course Obama may have earned credit for saving the jobs.

seven on June 11, 2009 at 10:07 AM

Howdy Dave from WI…

Actually, in the strip she is the antithesis of the mindless, moonbat.

Muir has written her as a conservative, and an engineer whose job was downsized and is now in the “new media”.

If you have disdain for Obamabots, you should check out Sam, Zed, Damon and Jan – go back a ways and come forward – me thinks you would like.

You know when some of those far left of port call it “the worst…” it is striking some discomfort into their world.

maninthemiddle on June 11, 2009 at 10:11 AM

“Hey, I didn’t make use of the nuclear football; I saved 90 million jobs!”

michaelo on June 11, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Loxodonta on June 11, 2009 at 10:06 AM

Great photo. I love the theme of “how stupid does he think we are”. I do believe that is resonating, even with those who pulled the lever for him.

sherry on June 11, 2009 at 10:12 AM

My wife lost her job last Fall when Obama was elected. She’s got a new one (friend sorta created one for her), but I can say categorically, and without one iota of resistance that as time passes, as the bills mount, as that foreclosure comes closer and closer over the months following a job loss….the “I saved X# of jobs” line pisses you off more and more. Why couldn’t he save one more-just one?

16000 people lose their jobs each day. I’m thinkin’ they get a little less and less satisfied with the “I inherited this economy” line as each bill arrives. The “I saved X#” of jobs bs loses just as much believability.

What the Dems don’t realize (though I think Axlerod does) is that the moment the American people feel how bad the economy really really is, Obama’s popularity will collapse. Similarly, unless things turn around hardcore over the next year…Democrats who took power in 2006 will have ZERO to boast about/nothing to run on. Look at Nancy Pelosi’s 2006 election night vid, or Obama’s nomination acceptance speech. They’re like checklists of failures. Put em on YouTube, and, well, it’s like the ads write themselves.

scottm on June 11, 2009 at 10:13 AM

Never has this great country been in the hands of a bigger idiot.

We’ld be better off with a junior high drop-out in charge.

notagool on June 11, 2009 at 10:15 AM

What’s with the cartoon above that started this….the character looks like the type of moron that gave us, “The One”, and STILL worships him.

Jeff from WI on June 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM

It’s actually a great cartoon, and if you’re truely interested in knowing more, I’d suggest you click on the link and read a bunch of them. (I started by going right to the first one and read onward). That character is about as far away from being an O-bot as you can get.

DrAllecon on June 11, 2009 at 10:19 AM

We all know the actual answer: Obama’s team calculated that spending X amount would “create or save” X jobs, and they’re sticking with the formula even while unemployment skyrockets and reveals their utterly useless pronouncements.

I don’t know that. Show the original equation they used. Tell me what their assumptions were. There weren’t any. Obama didn’t pull something out of his ass and then calculate it to come up with a number.

He just said that number, because he thought that saying that number would make people feel good about him. Period.

And Obama will keep saying that number as long as he thinks that it makes people feel good about him. And if that changes, then he will “calculate” a new number, using the precise same system of mathematics. There is absolutely nothing more that factors into any of this.

Liberalism has reached its logical conclusion. America has elected into the Oval Office a pure subjectivist. God help us all.

logis on June 11, 2009 at 10:19 AM

He’s sweating.
The editorial is pretty good too.

Loxodonta on June 11, 2009 at 10:06 AM

He is in over his head. The teleprompter is running out of excuses. EU veers right, Libtards are looking like fools. Cairo speech was bizarre, Lebanese voted for self preservation over Obama fear. His SCOTUS pick is a disaster, he just outsourced Chrysler and he hasn’t created or saved a single job, Meechelle O. is a PR nightmare with her face all nasty lookin like she is ready to chew off someones face.

Last 10 days the WH is imploding. His purple lips tell it all.

Geochelone on June 11, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Wait until the money runs out and all those saved jobs magically disappear.

xax on June 11, 2009 at 10:21 AM

For every “Green Job” created. I tell you we will lose one in the oil patch. The MMS (Mineral Management Service) which is the Dept of the Interior’s regulatory arm. Is becoming more and more adversarial with O&G operators. Some companies have been stopped from reworking proven reserves and I am not talking California coast. Right in the Gulf of Mexico companies are being pused into deeper and deeper waters making in much more expensive to obtain each barrel of crude or mcf of gas. The reason prices are skyrocketing is not just the speculators. The adimistration is quietly facilitating the rise. This is a strategy to push “green” and to reward companies like GE that backed the big O.

HoustonRight on June 11, 2009 at 10:24 AM

There are millions of people who truly believe that they wouldn’t have their job if various government actions hadn’t been taken.

The Monster on June 11, 2009 at 9:52 AM

Well, in one sense, they are correct, if you consider that many of them are state, local, and federal employees.

strictnein on June 11, 2009 at 10:28 AM

I love the theme of “how stupid does he think we are”.
sherry on June 11, 2009 at 10:12 AM

Stupid is as stupid does.

– Forrest Gump

Loxodonta on June 11, 2009 at 10:35 AM

HoustonRight on June 11, 2009 at 10:24 AM

This is scary stuff. But with the stooges in this administration I can believe anything.

Dire Straits on June 11, 2009 at 10:42 AM

If he wants to pull stats out of his nether regions, why not just go for the whole enchilada?

Thanks, Ed; I guess we’re not eating Mex tonight. Or for a while…

karl9000 on June 11, 2009 at 10:44 AM

Geochelone on June 11, 2009 at 10:21 AM

His economic policies are incredibly harmful to our economy. That will erode his support.

I pray that his dangerous national and international security policies don’t result in a major terrorist attack here or some destabilizing international incident.

However, other than these two items, the rest of his presidency is only incoherent or atrocious.

Loxodonta on June 11, 2009 at 10:45 AM

Barack Obama, who has the only higher pay grade, won’t explain his “saved or created” statistics, either.

Democrat statistics are obtained via the ONLY method utilized and approved by liberals everywhere. I have referred to this in the past as the WiPRE, or the “Wish Projection Rectal Extraction” method. This method consistently supports liberal views and beliefs.

oldleprechaun on June 11, 2009 at 10:53 AM

Bozo Hussein COST a lot of jobs. Employers are freaking out about the coming hyper confiscatory taxes and they have turtled up.

dogsoldier on June 11, 2009 at 11:38 AM

What’s with the cartoon above that started this….the character looks like the type of moron that gave us, “The One”, and STILL worships him.

Jeff from WI on June 11, 2009 at 9:53 AM

If you had ever followed Day by Day, even for a few days, you would not have said that. Hint: It’s her sister Skye — the dark haired character with all the “tats” — who is the mindless liberal moron.

Try to keep up!

Trochilus on June 11, 2009 at 12:06 PM

I’m staring to think the atrocious education system was made so on purpose by the Democrat proxy, the teacher’s union, so that this type of insaniy can be passed without critical thought.

What does your average public schooler know about how a government “creates or saves” jobs? Can you imagine what would be said if Bush ever advanced such a weak formula?

P.S. I just saved or created 1m trees, as I didn’t go out and cut them down. I’m an eco-warrior!

Aquateen Hungerforce on June 11, 2009 at 12:10 PM

political three card monte

rjoco1 on June 11, 2009 at 12:15 PM

The worst part of this ridiculous number of “jobs saved” is the underlying (and unchallenged) premise that government spending produces a greater multiplier of economic activity than private sector spending. Even the premise is ludicrous, how could the result be anything but an absurdity.

Luckily, our hard-hitting media is exposing the inconsistencies in this Administration’s ….. oh, wait.

Our country’s in the very best of hands

cruadin on June 11, 2009 at 12:54 PM

The numbers are made up by BO. When his popularity begins to fall in the polls, he releases some fell good info to get people to like him again.

Just feeding his ego.

BigMike252 on June 11, 2009 at 1:03 PM

GM’s infamous job bank will come back this summer in the form of Obama’s promised 600000 new jobs, paying students and ACORN types money to sit around, not working at those make belief jobs.

bayview on June 11, 2009 at 1:54 PM

If you had ever followed Day by Day, even for a few days, you would not have said that. Hint: It’s her sister Skye — the dark haired character with all the “tats” — who is the mindless liberal moron.

Try to keep up!

Trochilus on June 11, 2009 at 12:06 PM

Now why would I follow a cartoon about women? Are you saying the woman pictured is a conservative? If she was she’d be actually doing something, like cooking or cleaning, not laying around…

LOL..Just kiddin

Jeff from WI on June 11, 2009 at 2:09 PM

After all, if we hadn’t elected Obama, every single one of us could have lost our jobs. Can we prove that we wouldn’t have gotten fired?

A silly argument to be sure, Cap’n, but at least it’s consistent with that which liberals call “debate”: change the subject and force your opponent to try to prove a negative (e.g., “You don’t want to give that black or hispanic a home loan, when it’s clear he doesn’t have the means to make the payments? Prove you’re not a racist!”).

But the “jobs saved” talking point gives Obamazoids something to mindlessly parrot, and that’s good enough for the intended audience.

Spurius Ligustinus on June 11, 2009 at 2:47 PM

Where do those “created or saved” job numbers originate?


A NO BRAINER:
THE ACORN GOVERNMENT EMPLOYMENT AGENCY

byteshredder on June 11, 2009 at 8:54 PM