Video: Frank’s strawman snit
posted at 3:15 pm on June 11, 2009 by Ed Morrissey
Consider this a nice bookend to John Ziegler’s appearance yesterday on CNBC’s sister network MS-NBC. Contessa Brewer had a teary-eyed fit when Ziegler dared to criticize the network; this time, it’s the guest who throws a tantrum and walks off when the host challenges his strawman. As James Joyner remarked on Twitter, is this the man you want in charge of executive compensation? Hardly (via Michelle):
Frank whines about getting cut off, but he trotted out an old Obama strawman — he accused the host, Mark Haines, of wanting to do “nothing” about the economic crisis, which isn’t at all what Haines said. When Haines tried correcting the record, Franks played victim and whined his way off the stage.
Unfortunately, that ended the challenge to Frank’s push to legislate executive pay, which showed some promise. Haines noted that the shareholders of public corporations nowadays tend to be mutual funds and not “Mom and Pop” shareholders, but there’s a reason for that, and it’s a good one. Thanks to efforts by the Reagan administration to lower barriers to entry in the market through retirement funds, we have transformed in one-quarter century from a nation with a 15% investor class to a 70% investor class. These shareholders aggregated in mutuals for strength in numbers. At the same time, companies began tying compensation to stock performance, which pushed businesses to get more efficient and incentivized execs to improve their companies, where the standard salary+perqs packages had failed in the 1970s.
Did that lead to excess and bad long-term management? Yes, it did, although that has been far outweighed by a huge improvement in efficiency, productivity, and entrepeneurship. Shareholders didn’t complain because the short-term thinking boosted stocks and profits, but those days are over. The task of rebuilding will force companies to look to long-term health, and the shareholders that have taken huge losses in the last year will be much more likely to press for that kind of strategy, as the losses they took cannot be recovered in the short term. With or without government intervention, look for the market to correct the excesses and failures.










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This has actually been fun on even a progressive blog, since there are posters there who “get” the interviewer.
Frank is a complete idiot.
Why can’t we ditch these idiots?
AnninCA on June 11, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Why is Barney Frank not in jail?
Just wonderin’ …
progressoverpeace on June 11, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Finally!!! Go to ~4:50
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 3:20 PM
You tell me.
Count to 10 on June 11, 2009 at 3:21 PM
So why did Frank and his butch sisters have to moonlight with their little prostitution racket? Did the ofer a health plan for the prostitutes?
seven on June 11, 2009 at 3:22 PM
It’s always fun to watch a cartoon character get frustrated. You can almost see Bawney Fwank’s face get brick red, and smoke coming out of his ears. He’s such a joke.
VoxRobotica on June 11, 2009 at 3:22 PM
What prevented Obama from getting Bawney on his cabinet still eluded me. He seems like he’d fit right in.
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 3:24 PM
Only way to get rid of Frank would be to bomb the entire state of Taxachusetts back to the stone age. It’s quite literally another planet. Not of this world.
Del Dolemonte on June 11, 2009 at 3:24 PM
democrats are beset on all sides by windmills.
lorien1973 on June 11, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Testy, quick-tempered, high drama, snooty and mean. Each and every month we see this from Barney Frank.
sherry on June 11, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Because socialists/liberals/democrats love perverted old liars and thieves. Why do you think David Letterman has managed to stay on the air all these years?
doriangrey on June 11, 2009 at 3:25 PM
All crooks need to be investigated once we take back government. Witness #1? The crooked, sweaty, stuttering, doube talking Barney Frank.
marklmail on June 11, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Priceless. Remember, kids, he’s the “witty” congressman.
emailnuevo on June 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Must be embarassing living in Massachusetts’ 4th District.
WashJeff on June 11, 2009 at 3:27 PM
You should have seen him on CNBCyesterday, inSISTING he had tried to stop Fannie/Freddie from writing sub-prime loans in 2005, but THE REPUBLICANS BLOCKED all his efforts!!!
The CNBC noon crew about lost their cookies. How they get such a bad rep just because of one stupid news report (the 30Rock one where they got told to be nicer, supposedly) beats the h*ll outta me. Some of these conservatives must have only watched the one or two guys they have who lean liberal. The majority are ~ and always have been, mind you ~ consistently level-headed.
I post about their bon mots and info all the time, including this Dennis Kneale gem just the other day. And I DO mean GEM. They’d just discussed the union’s blowing off the Boston Globe last ditch offer and he said:
CNBC deserves a lot of credit.
tree hugging sister on June 11, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Sorry, Barney is quite a bit further down the line than that. People ahead of him… Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Janet Napalitano Tim Gietner, … ect…
doriangrey on June 11, 2009 at 3:29 PM
hey, I’ve lived there (Worcester) and they are in the stone age.
Onager on June 11, 2009 at 3:29 PM
cavuto has destroyed frank on executive pay numerous times. he’s more cordial, but cuts like a knife.
lorien1973 on June 11, 2009 at 3:29 PM
Barney is a cartoon character.
My vote is Elmer Fudd or Porky Pig.
jdflorida on June 11, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Massachusetts, you should be sooooo proud. Aren’t there any normal people in that State? You present yourselves represented by John Kerry, Ted Kennedy (the swimmer), Barney Frank and your Governor. Whew…. All with a big “L” on their forheads.
suzyk on June 11, 2009 at 3:32 PM
Barney Frank = Gutless Turd.
JohnGalt23 on June 11, 2009 at 3:33 PM
If it was`nt so sad it would be funny.Does no one vote in that state?
LSUMama on June 11, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Unbelievable. This is an NBC cable channel, and the guy interviewing Barney Frank is a big LIB.
This is a new level of arrogance on the part of congressional Democrats.
jay12 on June 11, 2009 at 3:36 PM
You should be asking that of the voters that keep re-electing Barney “Elmer Fudd” Frank & Co.
gryphon202 on June 11, 2009 at 3:37 PM
I would be embarassed and they should be, but I’ll bet they’re proud of him.
Vera71 on June 11, 2009 at 3:37 PM
The poster boy of the mid-term elections. THE POSTER BOY! But he won’t be.
Meghan will say it’s being mean.
Marcus on June 11, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Bawney sticking it to the MAN!
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 3:38 PM
No it’s not, this is exactly what it has been for the last 40 years, only in this case the MFMSM (Mother E’ffing Mainstream Media) accidentally showed more than they intended to.
doriangrey on June 11, 2009 at 3:38 PM
I don’t think it’s about reelection.
I am asking why these key positions are based on seniority.
He’s an idiot on financial affairs. He fails consistently.
Why can’t the Senate boot him?
AnninCA on June 11, 2009 at 3:39 PM
The pig nosed Frank picks his nose and looks from side to side as Haines asks his question.
Clearly Frank had no intention of giving a clear and candid answer to the question being asked.
I could only watch the first 20 seconds. That’s about all I can take of barney.
I might be able to watch another 5 seconds or so if he would at least comb his hair and wear a shirt that fits around his fat neck.
UltimateBob on June 11, 2009 at 3:39 PM
I love when Rush talks like this tool. I LMAO every time.
txag92 on June 11, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Dancing Queen!
BPD on June 11, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Because he bends for all the right friends. Baloney Fwank is hideous to the senses, which is why he runs unopposed.
Western_Civ on June 11, 2009 at 3:41 PM
May I have some term limits, please?
elderberry on June 11, 2009 at 3:41 PM
CNBC has been challenging FOX news for my attention lately.
Chubbs65 on June 11, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Ah, no.
Do not assume that because they belong to NBC that ~ especially the business day bunch, from zero dark thirty to market close ~ these guys are liberals. Anything BUT. (Larry Kudlow’s one of their mid-morning guys and you wouldn’t paint him with that brush, right?) I guess that’s where all the crap about them starts. People see that “NBC” in the station letters and assume the worst.
I’ve even got my boss at work hooked on them and he’s a Fox guy. Speaking of which, where do you think Martha MacCallum AND your Cavuto got there biz channel chops first?
tree hugging sister on June 11, 2009 at 3:42 PM
I’m no cardiologist, but based on my observation of this imbecile’s weight, and the size of his gut, tells me that he’s not all that far from a heart attack or a stroke…. I hope he does a lot of these interviews over the next month or two…. :)
HomeoftheBrave on June 11, 2009 at 3:42 PM
Bless your heart. I’ve felt like a voice in the wilderness.
tree hugging sister on June 11, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Bawney Fwank is about to show up, in a few minutes, on Fox Business talking about his plans to control executive compensation.
progressoverpeace on June 11, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Bawney Fwank is about to show up, in a few minutes, on Fox Business talking about his plans to control executive compensation.
progressoverpeace on June 11, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Thanks for the heads up. This should be comedy gold.
txag92 on June 11, 2009 at 3:44 PM
I would like to set the compensation level for the Democrat Congress.
Starting with Barney Frank.
By my calculations, Barney Frank should compensate ME for the $100,000 hole he blew (and does Barney Frank blow) in my 401K.
I’ll be sending you a Bill, Congressman and please pay promptly, you worthless deadbeat.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 3:46 PM
When are you people going to vote that sack of s**t out of office?
The constant looking off-camera in panic once his straw man started getting dissected should be made into an ad of Willie Horton proportions.
MadisonConservative on June 11, 2009 at 3:46 PM
I would like to see empirical support for this common assertion that management has ignored long term performance. The huge increase in institutional ownership would seem to make this argument counter-intuative.
rock the casbah on June 11, 2009 at 3:47 PM
He wasn’t qualified, he paid his taxes.
cat-scratch on June 11, 2009 at 3:47 PM
I feel sorry for him in a way. He looks like he hates his job. Kinda sad.
epluribusunum on June 11, 2009 at 3:48 PM
Good bye Sir! For good I wish!
ctmom on June 11, 2009 at 3:48 PM
I don’t know , i’ve only got 52% of the answer…
the_nile on June 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Why must people always interview Frank during his time of the month?
Torch on June 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM
I’ll help out here.
Barney is from one of the safest Dem districts in the country, and disproves the adage that the only way he can be defeated in an election is by him being photographed in bed with a young boy or a goat. I think both have happened to him.
The position is first based on party majority, then is an assignment from the Speaker of the House.
He is an idiot, but one with a Harvard degree.
He is in the House of Reps, not the Senate. The Senate can’t even boot Teddy or C Dodd, 2 of their own.
gonnjos on June 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM
LOL! Frank melts down when faced with a knowledgeable interviewer. Better stick with the puff ball interviews, Barney.
batter on June 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Really. He’d be very popular.
Akzed on June 11, 2009 at 3:52 PM
There is nothing more vicious than an aging queen.
johnboy on June 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Congressman Frank, can you tell us, in three buckets of spittle or less, why we should listen to you?
PappaMac on June 11, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Not to mention the internal struggles he must be dealing with. The life of lies and corruption that he leads, and the fact that he has to face the public and lie about it every day, must be eating him up inside.
UltimateBob on June 11, 2009 at 3:54 PM
LOL, Barney would say that Worcester’s problems can all be blamed on Holy Cross.
Del Dolemonte on June 11, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Every time I see Congressman Felcher, I mean, Frank, I am compelled to repeat: Those planes hit the wrong building.
mr1216 on June 11, 2009 at 3:55 PM
dude….. I am not gay, but even if I was, or if I had been behind bars for 50 years with no human contact, I could never find this drooling, lisping piece of blubber the least bit attractive.
UltimateBob on June 11, 2009 at 3:56 PM
Ah no.
The big fat dude Mark something interviewing the big fat dude Barney is in fact a thoroughly reliable liberal and an Obama supporter. Larry Kudlow isn’t, along with Santelli and Santorino (and most of Kudlow’s guests on his own show aren’t) but many if not most of the CNBC presenters /reporters are/were Obamites, and have made that clear.
I do find it interesting that on another CNBC show, Fast Money, which has all libs except for Jeff Macke, they’ve toned down the Barry praise tons. Seems like those who like to make money are among the first to have buyer’s remorse–stands to reason I guess.
JiangxiDad on June 11, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Communist will be communist.
Johan Klaus on June 11, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Dang it!!! Does Wal-mart sell anything that will scrub disturbing mental images from one’s mind? Dude, why’d you have to mention that image? Why?
jimmy2shoes on June 11, 2009 at 4:00 PM
Can you say Benedict Arnold on crack!
LSUMama on June 11, 2009 at 4:02 PM
“Did that lead to excess and bad long-term management? Yes, it did, although that has been far outweighed by a huge improvement in efficiency, productivity, and entrepeneurship….”
Ed’s last paragraph is very insightful. Worth re-reading.
notagool on June 11, 2009 at 4:02 PM
I think an apology to all gutless turds is in order.
fogw on June 11, 2009 at 4:02 PM
Oh this should be great. If he says anything more about how “England does it,” someone should seriously point out the current English mess.
Initially, that’s not what I was going for, but then I figured, why not?
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Contemptable human being. Who the hell elects this pervert?
daesleeper on June 11, 2009 at 4:04 PM
gee wiz – a tantrum like that makes you think he has something up his butt
gatorboy on June 11, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Other than the fact that these are standard left wing talking points. Do you have any evidence that either of these conditions actually occurred?
And no, the fact that the companies got into trouble is not evidence. Not all by itself.
MarkTheGreat on June 11, 2009 at 4:05 PM
I’d rather go color then listen to anything Franks has to say. He is truly an embarassment.
Puke, puke, puke.
StockOption on June 11, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Eh. The interview was awful. Dagen McDowell doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together. The only person on Fox Business dumber than Dagen is Alexis Glick, though Glick is, at least, smoking hot. But they’re both morons who should never be allowed to deviate from a script that is written by someone with brains.
progressoverpeace on June 11, 2009 at 4:07 PM
hearing Frank utter the words “Burning down the house” was quite satisfactory
gatorboy on June 11, 2009 at 4:08 PM
I prefer to ignore this guy, until the day he is led into his cell.
Vashta.Nerada on June 11, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Bawney is the Madoff of Congress!
Upstater85 on June 11, 2009 at 4:13 PM
The day they frog march this pervert out in handcuffs is a day that i will start beliving that our country is a nation of laws.How could any sane person could ever vote for this pervert.What kind of people live in his dist. in Mass.
thmcbb on June 11, 2009 at 4:17 PM
Keep calm, some day he, Reid, Pelosi, Obama, Biden and the whole cabal will be dead, roasting forever in hell.
Jeff from WI on June 11, 2009 at 4:21 PM
Because people like you keep voting for people like him.
Because you don’t consider the consequences of the policies you support, you are not smart enough to understand those consequences, or you just don’t care about the consequences.
Troll Feeder on June 11, 2009 at 4:22 PM
You sure can, when all of the people with pitchforks overturn this marxist takeover by force and return the spirit of America to it’s rightful place.
we need a Tiananmen square or Orange revolution in this country but I’m afraid the dumbing down/indoctrination may have had it’s intended effects on our populace.
Goodeye_Closed on June 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM
It’s funny, NBC is like the Baldwin family.
It’s certainly dysfunctional.
You have Alec Baldwin (MSNBC), the self-obsessed deviant who think he’s the next Kennedy/Murrow; Stephen Baldwin (CNBC) the quasi conservative one who talks a little crazy sometimes and then William Baldwin (NBC) who nobody ever watches anymore.
DailyDanet on June 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Think so? I beg to differ. If they’re SO pro-Obama, tell me WHY the whole tumult about being told to tone down the “Obama bashing“? WHY do they consistently challenge every single Obama-ite who comes on the daily shows to tout whatever the Precedent’s next best idea is? WHY did CNBC (Charlie Gasparino) break the Merrill bonus stories, including the fact the Geithner was in on them every step of the way, ergo the White House, which was nothing BUT a HUGE embarrassment for the Obama administration? I mean, I could go on and on but, if you’re a market day REGULAR CNBC watcher, you will see NOTHING but them questioning and arguing every step of the way, regardless of whatever their personal political affiliations. REGARDLESS.
There’s one guy ~ Steve Leesman ~ who’s unabashedly liberal in his bent on camera and usually provides the point-counterpoint, not to mention the token Dem strategists they have, but the regulars throw the BS flag with alacrity.
Not to mention you learn a helluva a lot about markets and finance.
tree hugging sister on June 11, 2009 at 4:23 PM
You can’t run a business channel on BS, the way MSNBC is run, because in the end what the talking heads there say is of very little consequence. At CNBC, the audience tuning in is doing because they’re focused on their money (or the money of people who’ve entrusted them to be financial managers). Turn the business channel into a mouthpiece for whatever plan liberal Democrats send down the pike, no matter what the financial consequences, and you’d see CNBC’s big current ratings advantage over the Fox Business Channel disappear overnight, because people wouldn’t trust them to be honest about where to put or what’s going to happen to their money.
jon1979 on June 11, 2009 at 4:24 PM
That seems to be a common affliction these days.
How many boxtops do you have to mail in to get an Ivy League degree these days?
Seems to me, you get one by chowing your way through three boxes of Cheerios, cutting out the UPC symbol and mailing it to Battle Creek, Michigan.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 4:27 PM
The Banking Queen, Barney Franks, is a professional politician. He is the Mohammed Ali of left wing politics. Roper Doper Franks. He causes the problem, gets himself put in charge of solving the problem, makes it worse and won’t let anyone point it out. Beautiful….. freakin’ beautiful.
afotia on June 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Yep. A Harvard degree is as big a joke, today, as a Nobel prize for Peace or Literature. But there are still many who are in awe of such pieces of paper, such as our own allah, who declared that the idiot messiah “has brains to spare for the job” while tearing Palin apart and worrying about how dangerous it would be to have her as VP.
progressoverpeace on June 11, 2009 at 4:30 PM
ABBA rewrote a song in Bawney’s honor.
You can dance, you can jive, depriving American of rights
See that Bawney, watch that scene, dig it, he’s the lisping queen
Friday night and the lights are low
Looking out for the place to go
Where they play the right music, getting in the swing
You come in to look for a king
Anybody could be that guy
Night is young and the music’s high
With a bit of rock music, everything is fine
You’re in the mood for a dance
And when you get the chance…
You are the lisping queen, old and mean, pass the Vasoline
Lisping queen, feel the beat from the media
mainstreammidstreamYou can dance, you can jive, depriving Americans of rights
See that girl, watch that scene, dig it, he’s the lisping queen
Dr.Cwac.Cwac on June 11, 2009 at 4:34 PM
I wouldn’t hire an Ivy Leaguer to mow my lawn. They’d want $500.00 to do it and even if I paid it, they would steal the mower.
Morally and intellectually bankrupt idiots – that’s the Ivy League for you.
NoDonkey on June 11, 2009 at 4:36 PM
But I certainly would hire a Nobel Prize for Peace winner to clean my toilet, though not a literature laureate, since they would end up drinking the water.
progressoverpeace on June 11, 2009 at 4:39 PM
Is this all it takes for have us stop hearing him lie, deceive and obfuscate?
threeCents on June 11, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Yups. And it’s refreshing.
The Baldwin brothers analogy’s a great way to put it.
tree hugging sister on June 11, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Billy Mays’ Brain Bleach—ONLY $19.95!! (+ S&H)—it doesn’t work, but we’ve got TONS of the stuff!!!—CALL NOW!!!
hillbillyjim on June 11, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Haines is great fun and the perfect interviewer for Frank’s nonsense. Haines usually conveys a bit of skepticism and a sense of exasperation with the political process in general. Here he was asking fairly straight ahead questions and he didn’t fall for any of Franks cheap rhetorical bits (e.g., restate the question in a distorted manner and then proceed with bluster. Talk over any objections by shouting “Will you let me finish”.)
dedalus on June 11, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Thufferin Thuckatath….Bawney is maaaaaad. Literally, and figuratively.
capejasmine on June 11, 2009 at 4:45 PM
SNORT! Oops, coffee came out my nose!
Mr_Magoo on June 11, 2009 at 4:45 PM
*not sold in stores
hillbillyjim on June 11, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Kind of a shame about Barney. If he put half the energy he puts into being a conniving manipulator into trying to do some good somewhere, he might just be a happier, less whiny person……Naw!
jeanie on June 11, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Contessa Frank having another hissy when he’s smacked
with facts. . . . What a little fa—-t,
Texyank on June 11, 2009 at 5:00 PM
Typical leftwing nonsense. Either listen to what I’m saying or we’ll mute you or I’m leaving.
Little children.
djaymick on June 11, 2009 at 5:06 PM
You’re assuming he has a conscience (you have to have a conscience before you can be troubled by it) — and there’s zero evidence of that.
AZCoyote on June 11, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Looks like this anchor will be getting a visit from Immelt and Zucker. You’ll recall they went down to see Rick Santelli and demanded that he stop criticizing Obama’s economic policies.
RightWinged on June 11, 2009 at 5:08 PM
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